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The rules have been updated, effective immediately. Please review them. Specifically rules 6, 7, and 8 have changed or been added, and two guidelines have been removed.
Updated again to ban political ideology and imagery completely.

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 No.18450[Reply]

Do you think our society likes to glorify mental illness/depression/anxiety? I sometimes think they do because I've seen normalfags really like to talk about their crippling anxiety and depression (although it could also be the noted rise of depression and mental illness among the newer generations). Not only that, but people's interest in things like outsider artists and the tortured artist stereotype. Is it just normal people wanting their boring lives to be more interesting?
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 No.18500

>>18490
>Attitudes like that further fuel the cagey mentality of the modern Black person. Getting these people on their feet required more than breaking their chains, as any sharecropper could tell you.
Okay, how much more? Regardless of the cause, a reprehensible mentality is still nothing to admire.

 No.18502

>>18500
a lot of the opportunity to be proactive has passed. They're doing better now, I see a lot more black people in the suburbs and in positions of leadership at their work. This is because opportunities started opening up slowly over the past 30 years as racist attitudes and segregation receded. Both of which were huge economic and educational obstacles.
Had the post-Lincoln presidents tried to interfere in the postwar South to educate freed slaves and thusly enable them to diversify economically and participate in skilled trades (which are the best way to start a trans-generational social climb) they might have been able to mitigate the lost economic opportunities posed by racist attitudes in the North and South. And killing the exploitative and destructive sharecropper system would have been a boon in itself, in some ways it further degraded black opportunity to improve their condition.
Wealth, skills, and intangible advantages such as mentality are passed down through generations. This is why poverty is cyclical: if you come from nothing you have nothing to use to improve your living, reducing your chances of doing so, and having advantages to give your offspring. Because these advantages could not develop under slavery, no wealth for the next generation to inheirit and no precedence of success for them to draw from, the freed slaves did not have the tools that some migrants and middle class whites had. A jumpstart was needed, but once the war was done nobody cared. Hell, a lot of the free staters and abolitionists still wanted nothing to do with the blacks. Lincoln himself cared only for the preservation of the Union and democracy.
This is a community that lost everything when they left Africa, was denied the opportunity to start anew for 300+ years, and was economically hampered even outside of the plantation slavery model by precedence-inspired racism. Who will invest or trade with people that they have been taught are incompetent, especially when social pressure is levelled against them for even considering the idea?
A defeatist mentality is inspired, reinforced, and spread through defeat. We have seen this occur in other places, such as the Gaelic nations of Britain. Once the cycle is started, whether by human action or misfortune, it builds momentum both within the hampered community and its neighbors.
In such situations, suffePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.20008

>>18450
>Do you think our society likes to glorify mental illness
Aren't pride parades just that?

Anyway, this phenomena is nothing new, you can trace it back to Victorian era and probably even further in history, goth and emo scenes were just that.
Regarding depression: Self pitying is addictive and since misery loves company, self pitying people come together and try to get others to give them sympathy, and since people are egoistical by nature they prefer receiving sympathy over giving it, and in order to appear more deserving of attention they blow their pain out of proportion, then start believing it themselves and make it real.
And its not just psychological problems, people like to brag about being gluten/lactose intolerant too.

 No.20020

No. Anyone who does has never suffered horrible anxiety or depression. Try going on an alcoholic binge and then glorifying the after effects. Anyone can do it and it sucks.

 No.20045

>>18472
You can't /thread yourself



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 No.19999[Reply]

I am claiming this GET to announce that Seisatsu is in fact STI and that he is lying.
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 No.20001

I'm claiming this get to tell you that Seisatsu is also gay and that Phantasm could beat him in a masturbation session

 No.20002

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>>20000
i have been out-Jewed. you have bested me, sir. i'm going to off myself now. take my yarmulke, you have deserved it.

 No.20004

another cirnoget wasted…
sei, time to reboot /ot/

 No.20005

Is this gonna be the new /4chon/ until 8ch comes back?

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>>20004
But how do we do that?



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 No.19851[Reply]

So I made a thread around December 2014 about secret folders and there was a file called tips for life, does anyone know where I can find that file?(this was the image I used for the thread)

 No.19890

https://web.archive.org/web/20160204104856/https://uboachan.net/ot/res/11973.html
you could have looked this up yourself pretty easily, but you didn't so now you owe me a favor. how do you plan on paying?

 No.19894

>>19890
bacon bits.

 No.19896

>>19890
Good job finding the thread, but the file OP's talking about wasn't archived.



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 No.19863[Reply]

A recent gem from my inbox.

 No.19877

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Wow, that's pretty funny.



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 No.19867[Reply]

>Hey Seisatu, guilty conscience about your part in inspiring and supporting terrorism after all those dead folks in NZ?
< Seisatu: WHAT ME?!?! I'M INNOCENT! I DINDU NUFFIN!!! AND I DON'T HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIENCE THATS WHY I'M LOCKING THE THREAD TO PREVENT FURTHER DISCUSSION

lmao guilty conscience much, sei?
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 No.19874

>>19870
We don't have that in Vietnam

 No.19887

Seisatsu has promoted hate speech on the internet for over a decade and and continues to do so, yet when his efforts bear fruit in the form of terrorism nobody hold him responsible.
Does anyone else think thats odd?
If people on the internet were saying Seisatsu should be shot and then someone did it, the people who were saying to do so on the internet would be considered partly responsible, so why is it different when Seisatsu promotes terrorism and then others suffer while he benefits?

 No.20731

Who's Seisatu?



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 No.19860[Reply]

As the person who decided to preserve /new/ when everyone else wanted it to disappear, how much personal responsibility do you feel for all of the people who were cold bloodily gunned down in New Zealand?

 No.19861

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Jesus, people actually think STI and I are the same person now since that Seisatsu thread on 8chan. I hope this blows over. Shouldn't have joked about it.

 No.19862

>>19860
STI lives in Australia. I live in California. We're still in contact though. For the record, he recently told me he should have only saved /r9k/.



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 No.19800[Reply]

What are the best (FREE) language learning services available on the Internet? Couple of my relatives speak Korean and I was wondering my options so I could actually talk to them. And yes, I'm trying Duolingo as I speak. Doesn't look great.

 No.19802

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A torrent client and a keyboard. I've found most web-based resources to be rather lackluster for anything that isn't English or Japanese, and YouTube videos are a rabbit hole. Russian resources, for example, were very lacking. I haven't heard good stuff about Duolingo and it just looks and sounds like a procrastinator's dream. With most languages, you should in general learn the script/alphabet (if applicable), get a grammar sheet or two, and learn some vocabulary and get ready to try and contextualize stuff. Try buying a (reputable) college book on Korean or pirating it like everyone is supposed to. I don't know much about Korean, so take this with a grain of salt, but this seems to be the most reputable beginner level resource:
http://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Korean-Beginning-Textbooks-Language/dp/0824834402/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260972037&sr=8-1

 No.19803

>>19802
I already know the alphabet; Korean is known for the easy alphabet and hard as hell grammar. Anyways, thank you! The book you found looks like a good find, positive reviews and cheap compared to other highly rated books I found. Good looking suggested books too. I'm probably going to pool resources for a college book, pirating's never been my thing even though I have no fucking money.

 No.19856

Good chance you already heard of several or all of these, but…

Lingodeer is a bit better app than Duolingo. More structure, teaches words in context and grammar right away.
If you already know a lot of words and grammar u can use Naver dictionary to learn more. Naver has a whole subsection of their website dedicated to foreign speakers and learners.
HiNative is made by the people who made Lang-8, it's an app where you can ask natives questions but again, assumes you know at least some basic shit. Speaking of Lang-8, they stopped new signups but if you just happen to have one from a while ago it could be useful.
Youtube and web Talk To Me in Korean. I haven't used it because I'm lazy and stubborn but they have free courses, native speakers, and free Youtube videos on all sorts of subjects. I heard people say they got very far with them but IDK about quality, sorry. Just throwing things at the wall here.


Or make a new (separate) Twitter account and post in Korean and ask questions while posting about daily life or your interests. I'm only in the super beginning phases of Korean, so I'm not much help beyond this, but I really see this as a good step since it kinda forces you to practice.

Make some Korean friends somehow. Whatever you do, at least try to be genuine with them in terms of friendship. If you just want a language partner I'm sure you could find one by asking around.

I have heard that written and spoken Korean can be very different, so keep that in mind if you didn't know that already.

Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Learn from them. Mistakes will be funny and you'll laugh at them later on down the line. Oh no, that's generic language learning advice…



 No.19832[Reply]

Seisatsu thread on 4chon https://8ch.net/4chon/res/292682.html

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 No.19836

jesus christ is that a dick

 No.19840

>>19836
that is fucking huge tasty dong if you ask me pls don't ban sei(

 No.19843

>>19840
>judging partially flaccid penises

 No.19845

>>19843
its still fuckhueg



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 No.19784[Reply]

Has the internet affected your perception of time?
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 No.19797

The net is an incredible time sink for me. When I stay offline, daytime crawls slower than sin, I become really angry and unsatisfied with everything, until I eventually go to bed to sleep the bad feelings away.

 No.19798

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I think we definitely perceive it faster in this day and era. Information is more readily available, and each year seems like a bunch of highs and lows marked by an insane number of publicized (non-personal) events. Where as the media portrayal of previous decades pre-00s have been rather consistent, there seems to be no big collective thought about what the 00s and 10s were. You might remember the 00s as the last gasp of media moguls, MTV, Nirvana ripoffs/emo projects, and the popularization of the Internet, but that's by large doing it a disservice, and someone else probably remembers it for something different. Information overload and analysis paralysis has struck every corner, and who knows what other big news might be in the other end of the spectrum. For that matter, we still seem to be stuck on the same time loop. People still call back to the 80s even though people that lived through the 80s as a child/teenager are probably in their 50s-60s now. Retrofuturism and faux-nostalgia is more popular than ever. On the other hand, I've spotted people on the Internet who are already nostalgic about the 10s, and it's fucking weird. Nostalgia usually hits you on stuff that happened some ~15 years ago.
I think we soon may be hitting a big temporal gap or schizophrenia of sorts in the future. Like the Mandela Effect but at large. For one small example, remember YouTube annotations? Remember Flash? I'm already unsure as to what annotations certain videos had. And most Flash content in this day and age is by and large gone outside of survival bias. Nobody is invalidated, and nobody is right.

On the side, a worrying trend I've spotted that's been picking up traction in the mainstream sphere of the Internet are so called "internet historians" who recite shit from KYM/ED, do some two minute search on web archive, and just overall reek of faggotry and do History majors a big disservice. It's the beauty of the internetz, you can lie and get away with it. And maybe in the future we'll recall a lie too.

 No.19808

I'm not sure to what extent it has affected my perception of the real world, but in regards to online acquaintances and events, it feels as if it all simply pauses when I'm not there. I'll talk to some online buddy or group chat, leave for 2 weeks and return as if nothing happened, and then be surprised at them lamenting my absence because it feels like I was just there a moment ago. With running online trends and the like too, I just can't bring myself to give a shit about staying relevant, so when I finally get to it, everything feels like it just happens in huge bursts. I suppose this is why slower image boards like this suit me more.

>>19798
Interesting perspective. I know a person who is seemingly nostalgic for 2016 for whatever reason. Also note that your view of these eras and generations might be a bit americentric and doesn't necessarily apply to the population outside your sphere, even considering how globalized culture has become. The 90s, for example (though you didn't directly mention them), being a golden childhood era is a pretty consistent meme on the internet, but meanwhile my own country was war-torn and fucked during most of this period.

 No.19814

>>19798
I'm nostalgic for the mid to late 2000s, it depends on the person and how their life was at the time.

 No.19831

>>19798
Things that were less than a decade ago feel longer ago now. I blame how quickly things have changed online and the hostile corporate takeover and sanitization of various platforms like youtube.



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 No.19764[Reply]

Recently, I took the Enneagram test. I'm either a type 8, type 4, or type 6. Also either a 8w7 or 8w9. This doesn't surprise me much since it fits my experience with every other personality test. I don't neatly fit into one category and the way I act and think dramatically shifts depending on the circumstances. Frankly, I think Meyer-Briggs is obsolete bullshit unsubstantiated by modern reseach. People who take it too seriously come off as pretentious and simple-minded to me and on forums it's like they actively try to fit the stereotype. I think it appeals to people who don't have anything real going for them. The missing piece is taking into account how people's personalities naturally shift. The brain is remarkably complex, but what we perceive as personality is basically an illusion.

Anyway, I thought about how you could make a better test and came up with some ideas. Aside from testing for general behavioral tendencies like extraversion and introversion, I think there should be sub-catergories depending on other factors:

How you interact with people you see as socially and emotionally above, equal and below you. By socially above, I mean like societal position. A boss or parent or teacher is above you. Emotionally above is somebody you actually respect and look up to. A boss you think is an asshole or idiot is somebody you see as socially above you, but emotionally below you, etc.

How you deal with your own and others social/emotional challenges.
How you deal with your own and others social/emotional desires.

All of the questions will also take into account whether you feel content or discontent(sadness/anger) socially/emotionally. Depending on everything, your results would also include stable/unstable and successful/unsuccessful.

Overly positive descriptions give people a warped sense of self-perception. Taking into account whether a person is well adjusted or not would give more accurate results. I think this whole thing could only be accomplished by asking about complex scenarios and including some more personal questions.
https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test
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 No.19769

>>19764
Ironically this entire post is very 4, maybe a 4 fix.

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>>19769
Ironically, this post is super gemini with a dash of cancer. You're gonna need to open up your root chakra some more.

 No.19772

>>19770
That's not even…comparable to astrology

 No.19789

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>>19764
Don't really care for personality tests as I don't see any value in them but took the test you linked anyway. Like the other anon on this thread I also received 5w6. Apparently I have a type 1 personality and the description somewhat seems to describe the type of person I have been the past few years.

Your ideas to include questions pertaining to how a person treats people of different social ranks is interesting and probably would result in more effective tests.

However, the main issue I see with personality tests are related to the actual method of gaining answers; from the person themselves. If a person is not good at introspection or is highly emotional the day they fill in the test, the results will be inaccurate. Having other people fill in the test for you also seems to have similar issues.

Before we try to find better methods of testing we should ask what value the results of a personality test offer anyone. I struggle to find much value in assigning different personality 'types' to people. (Perhaps it could discover which couple combinations work best or which personality types tend to form friendships with one another).

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I don't really believe super strongly in personality tests and don't do them too often. I did a couple different ones once because of the Homestuck Title Test on Tumblr some time ago.

I can't remember the exact results, only that I'm a Mage or Seer of Hope. Make of that what you will.



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