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Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues, and particularly help in escaping the NEET lifestyle, but this focus is not exclusive. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
* Intentionally breaking these rules or the global rules will still result in a warning or ban.
* Rule 6 is enforced more liberally on /hikki/. Users may be banned from /hikki/ for inflammatory remarks in cases which might not result in a ban on other boards.
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How old are you?

ADMIN NOTE: This discussion is OK again since the change to Rule #1.
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I turned 18 this February


currently 19, turning 20 this October


The jobs I've had that weren't too bad for that were doing warehouse work (heads up though this is fucking miserable) and medical transportation. Most of your time in medical transportation is spent on the road and roughly half of that is by yourself (or with a partner or two if you're an EMT/Paramedic) and when you're just a basic wheelchair van driver the other half is mostly just driving little old folks home or to rehab. It's kind of a comfy job and I've been enjoying it. Definitely worth looking into.


25, will be 26 this year in October.


I'll be 24 in July

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I'm a peaceful and squeamish guy. I even feel sorry for killing bugs
even so, I took an interest in the army and the navy (I'm not a yank). there's something so cool about their disciplined and hard life, how those institutions can whip people without courage, without a purpouse, a goal, or a skill into shape. it truly is a beautiful thing to behold. I like how they harden mind and body just so average joes can face the unexpected. plus you learn cool things too, from survival techniques to self-defense and trades
and hey, paying you to learn all these things is great

still, I can't even think about myself harming someone else, and that's the biggest downside. it's pretty much what they train you for, too. are there any other similar careers that teach you similar values but don't revolve around harming others? I was thinking about becoming a fireman or a park ranger. similar enough?
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I have a hard time dealing with people, and that's what I fear the most about being in the military
just what you said kinda gave away what types of people you can find there, and that's what I expected to: from sociopathic murder machines that jerk off to assault rifles to overgrown schoolyard bullies who act all grr big strong macho man
I wanna have a good time and meet nice people, like everyone else

so yeah fireman might be too much for me, and I always wanted to be a ranger. I love the outdoors. the problem is the job market. I'm not sure how stable and ample it is for rangers. getting a job as one seems difficult too (because of the requirements. they seem to surpass whatever you can learn at college), and I don't understand very well how to get a position either


>from sociopathic murder machines that jerk off to assault rifles to overgrown schoolyard bullies who act all grr big strong macho man

…and you forgot the "My life sucks, so I'll make sure everyone else's will do so as well!" people.

>the problem is the job market. I'm not sure how stable and ample it is for rangers

I would say pretty stable, given that one's really dedicated, which you seem to be. I could imagine the dropout rate to be really high. People take this up as it seems all serene and idyllic, only to leave after their first late autumn/winter out in the wilderness. Many people say how they are "outdoor type" and how they love nature, but they eventually learn the had way that there's a difference between going to hiking/camping whenever one feels like (and when the weather is nice), and being out in the wild all the time.

>they seem to surpass whatever you can learn at college

Certainly, it covers quite a broad range subjects. Forestry, biology, fire prevention and firefighting, and so on. But they will certainly train you. So you shouldn't really be worried about what you don't know yet, you will have ample time to learn everything.

>and I don't understand very well how to get a position either

As I don't know which country are you from, I can't really give any advice on this. But rangers are almost always under the command of the ministry of agriculture and forestry. So their office would be the first place I'd go.


sound advice and great numbers
thank you fren uwu
I'm argentinian btw


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You could try Bariloche, although I'm not sure whether they're hiring people or not, what with the economy fucked up and that shit.


>I'm argentinian btw

I see. In that case, I still can't give you any direct advice, as I'm from within the EU.

But good luck nonetheless, and keep us updated on your progress!

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I'm sure most here have their own summer bug horror stories. Last summer (for example) I had a plastic container sitting around untampered with for god knows how long and when I opened it one day it had an entire thriving ecosystem inside it. My nose is broken so rotten food junk/fermented piss does not bother me at all but bugs drive me insane.


Those look like carpet beetle I think. They can produce allergic reactions in some people resulting in symptoms similar to bedbug bites. The symptoms are caused by the fine hairs that they shed which pierce the skin.


Try to look up picture of rooms/houses in far worse conditions than your own, that kind of stuff usually motivates me to clean like there was no tomorrow.



Not trying to be insulting but, if you got to that point, just cleaning won't cut it. Those things will hatch and lay eggs all over the place, incredibly hard to remove because they stick on surfaces / crevices. Might actually need to clear the room of all furniture and go at it with a pest removal service.


>17 become stoner/NEET hybrid
>only go to school to score weed
>have old apple pipes stashed in desk drawer
>fruit flies form a colony on their
>amazed my high ass looking at the rows of fruit fly maggots on my old pipe
>another time eat a piece of shitty fudge because of the munchies
>didn't like it so tossed it in a cup and left it on dresser
>weeks later look in it and its teeming with maggots, not fruit fly either as they are much bigger
it was pretty much one summer that all this happened because I got an ounce of shitty mexican regs that itself was full of dead bugs and just got high as fuck for 2 months on end

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hey guise
what's the longest period you've been without a bath?
I haven't showered in 5 days, my record is 2 weeks
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have you tried heating up water in a pot on the stove?


a week yeaaars ago, but i haven’t showered in 5 days
it’s currently 2am where I am, i’ll probably shower again once after I eat breakfast


last bath/shower was August 8th, 2018. Haven't washed at all since.
I used to shower twice a day because it felt good but I just don't have access to clean running water right now.


With the exception of basic (where I think I went the first five or so weeks without showering) I get to feeling too gross by the time I hit day four to procrastinate any longer on it. I don't feel too bad about missing a day, but yeah. Four is the absolute limit for me.


one month
i was 10 at the time and had summer vacation, i thought it'd be funny to walk around and annoy people by being stinky. i laughed my ass off the whole time people walked away
thankfully i know better now and i try to rinse myself off of the daily muck i produce

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When I have to interact with people, quite often, they will find a way to misinterpret my anxiety. There are many misinterpretations, but they all seem to revolve around the other person involved. They think I must only be anxious because of them, not realizing that people with social anxiety are pretty much always anxious around people, except perhaps around their family members or a small group of friends. But around people they don't know, they will be anxious.

I have been accused of racism for being anxious around non-white people at my college's cafeteria, despite the fact that I get social anxiety around white people too. One time, a female counselor implied that I must be anxious around women, not understanding that I am anxious around men too. People have said thinks like "anon is bad at talking to girls" or "or anon gay?" but I am just bad at talking to people in general. Saying I'm "bad at talking to girls" implies that I'm good at talking to guys, which is not true.

The female counselor I saw sent me to a male counselor in the same counseling office place and I was anxious around him too. He seemed to take it personally and thought it was about him as an individual. Very unprofessional across the board. He also asked me about drugs and alcohol and I told him about my drinking, and so he thought I must be anxious because of drinking too often (it's the opposite: I drink too much to cope with anxiety, not the other way around).

Another time, someone invited me to volunteer at a homeless shelter. I was sleep-deprived and also still had social anxiety, because I always have it, and being in a situation where I had to serve people food and talk to them made it especially bad. The person who invited me implied that I was afraid of homeless people, even though they've seen how I act around other people.

A final example was how I was invited by my friend to spend Thanksgiving with him and his family. They are extremely loud and outgoing and it was a little intimidating with all the questions and being put on the spot a few times. My friend thought I really enjoyed checking my phone, when in reality I was only doing it to avoid making eye contact or to cope with my extreme anxiety.

I don't get the impression that very many people truly understand what I'm going through, and these accusations make it even worse.

Have people ever misinterpreted your mental health issues? If so, what happened?
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>Have people ever misinterpreted your mental health issues?
All the time. My family likes to pretend that mental disorders that aren't overtly crippling don't exist. They barely consider autism a disorder if you're more functioning than the furthest people on the spectrum. It's always "Why are you even sad? There's nothing to be sad about" or "Stop being so shy!" when it comes to my manic depression and crippling anxiety.

The only one who doesn't do that is my dad, who treats it like some sort of sick competition. Whenever someone tries to talk about mental health and mentions something they have, 99.9% of the time you'll immediately hear "I HAVE THAT, TOO!!". You know he treats it like a competition because it's never to sympathize, only to direct everyone's attention toward him.


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Your dad might be a narcissist. Those are typical symptoms. Maybe look into that, and don't overlook covert narcissism. I've noticed how much extra attention narcissism seems to get in self-help circles.


Sounds about right, he demonstrates most of if not all the symptoms with constant gaslighting thrown into the mix for flavor.


Do you suppose that might have been projection on your Aunt's behalf, anon? How is she around other people, and your parents in particular? Is she emotionally manipulative?


>That's why I think positive experiences won't cure anxiety entirely.
>You can't possibly train yourself to overcome fear over all social situations
Sorry for selectively quoting. I agree with the second sentence, but not with what I feel is the spirit of the first. In my experience, it is the case that ``healing experiences of successful social interactions'' only train for similar social situations. However, it is also my experience that this is enough. Maybe I live a monotonous life, but being able to deal with a limited amount of social interaction already allows me to deal with the majority of social interaction. Isn't that enough?

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Hello, /hikki/.

For 2 years now, I've only went out the house for school, and even with school I don't hang out with people.

You see, I moved far away from my best friend. We were closer than peas in a pod, practically glued to each other.
We'd explore the city, have trips to the mall and explore abandoned areas in our school district.

Unfortunately, we had a falling out since I was an immature freshman, and took her for granted. I belittled her art skills and made fun of her obsession with a show. We made up, but I always felt guilty, she assured me I was alright, but due to circumstances that I can't share, I had to skip our exams, leave and move upstate, and never see her again.

Now, I've moved from Louisiana to New York, and 3rd-year high school bore no friendships for me, since I had so much regrets with how I treated her.
I couldn't be close to someone else after her, and I'd like some advice from you.
Please leave advice, Ubuu. I desperately need it.
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man you even write like an underage fag(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)




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If you're friend really would be creeped out by your genuine feelings than your relationship really did suck. People are awful. Also I can smell the adolescence bleeding from your posts about something as petty as losing a shit friend. Can't blame the young for acting it though.


holy shit im jealous.
You literally had the best type of friend out there. Someone that actually cares enough to do stuff alone with you. Thats extremely rare so you probably won't find it in your current situation.
Try getting in contact with your friend and tell her that you are genuinely sorry. You guys will probably not hang out as much because of the distance, but at least you wont be feeling bad anymore.

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Happy Valentine's Day, Uboa-chan!
I'm a long-time lurker, first time poster,. I've told my sob-story a couple times on other -chans, only to get the usual “kys” response, so I decided to post here and see if any intellectuals feel like replying (or if anyone replies at all…)
At the age of 6, I was molested by my brother, and was quickly (forcefully) introduced to the world of sex from a very young age, only to be rejected by every girl I've ever been stupid enough to have feelings for. From my first grade crush, to all my cute coworkers, I'm almost 25, in the prime of my life, and am forced to watch happy, fruitful, loving relationships blossoming all around me, while all I get is my right hand and an internet connection.
To say that I used to get bullied in school would be an understatement. Elementary and Middle school were pretty miserable, but during my first year of high school, I made a friend (or so I thought). After about 3 or 4 months, a rumor spread around the school that I was gay, and this friend of mine tried to hook me up with a guy. I felt really bad turning the guy down, but this friend of mine, (and all his friends) got so pissed at me, that I was reported, and the teachers and administrators gave the students permission to bully me from then on. My parents didn't believe any of it and didn't do anything about it.
As for Elementary School, I'm like 85% sure there was a child trafficking ring going on behind my back. Every year was an event called the “School Sleepover” where kids would come to spend the night at the school to “play games and watch movies together”. They also apparently “Didn't have a sleepover every year” because it's a “potentially dangerous event” and that they “Needed approval from the school district”. However, I know for sure that each of my 4 siblings got to go at least twice and a friend of mine (who later became a pot-smoking, acid-dropping chad) got to go multiple times, and In 4th grade, he even got to 3rd base it with a girl who had a crush on me in a game of Truth or Dare. All this after my teacher threatened to expel me for asking when the sleepover would be. After the fact, when 10y/o Chad asked me why I didn't go, I said nobody told me, and when I asked what happened at the sleepover, he tuned bright red and said “I promised not to tell, and if I did tell, you would get extremely mad, and the whole school would get in a lot of trouble with the police.”
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Yep. You're totally right, anon. Spread the news.


It's not that deep.


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Valentine's isnt really a big deal in my country so i wouldn't know and despite knowing it exists i don't think much about it because it sounds dumb and would hurt. Seems like you live in a pretty fucked up place if all of that is true, i'd try to get off this hellhole immediately.


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OP here.
To be clear, I am no saint. Every girl I've ever asked out has rejected me, which makes me sad, but I know for a fact that there have been a small handful of girls that I've turned down as a result either me being a clueless asshole, them being raging feminazis, or them being 400lb land whales. I'm a cringelord to be sure, and I can't even say with 100% certainty that I do deserve love. I like to believe that everyone deserves a Happily Ever After for their Fairy Tale, but history tells us otherwise. Things such as Yume Nikki, Saya No Uta, and Watamote make me think back to all my school suicides, my own suicide attempts, and all the famous people in history (or the non-famous nobodies of the past) who all died as lonely bitter virgins, never feeling so much as the warmth of a hug, or a shoulder to cry on.


The grass always seems greener on the other side, but on closer inspection there's an ant infestation and most of the grass has dried out. Focus on the upkeep of your own lawn instead.

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I'm not too sure this goes on this board but it feels like it'd fit here more than Off-topic.

Anyway, does anyone here have an imaginary friend? Any kind, I think even tulpa sort of count. If so I'd love to hear stories even if it's childhood imaginary friends. More so I'm interested in how many NEETs and Hikkikomori have them and how it affects your day to day life.
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While on a grander scale this may be true, an imaginary friend is a different sort of illusion than a flesh and blood one. Those differences are what people value.


I have imagenary foe. He always say to me rude things and laughing on anything i do.


just sounds like low self esteem


I spend a lot of time daydreaming, or making up scenarios and that involves characters invented by me, though they're mostly NPCs in terms of personality and not consistent at all.


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i have several. and, it's always a bit jarring to come out of whatever emotion i feel while speaking to "them" and realize i've been alone for the past thirty minutes or however long these spells last. . . this has been going on for the past few years, by the way.
when i have the house to myself, i often walk around while i speak.
usually our conversations (my daydreams) just focus on regular things. we rabb.it, we write together, we playfully banter, etc. it's fun. but my mind can only stretch itself so far, y'know.
i've gone as far as making a discord server with a few alts to speak with them, but of course it's just myself rambling into the void.

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In the past I have been diagnosed with general anxiety disorder and more specifically social anxiety disorder.
It was so bad I couldn't even look people in the eye and I would start shaking whenever I feel like I am looked at, I would run out of classrooms at university because of anxiety attacks.
I can't remember what I was on back at the time.

I have now started a new course ( which basically guranatees a job ) and it's back. It's more under control because I am more mature and have learned to breathe, try to calm myself and distract myself but it still doesn't let me function as a human being. ( + )

I am too poor to afford therapy but my cousin works as a nurse. I have access to: paroxetine, citalopram, sertraline, venlafaxine, regabalin, tradozone and alprazolam.

( + ) I'm currently anticipating social situations and taking 0.50 of xanax ahead with like half or 3 quarters of an hour but this will not last me long because I'm developing resilience to the drug ( I used to take 0.25 ).

I exercise using the bodyweight fitness app whenever I can. I do not drink coffee, alcohol or energy drinks. I used to drink tea but at some point I realised black tea unsettles me and I kind of stopped.

My concerns are anhedonia and gaining weight because this happened last time.
I plan on informing myself for a few weeks first and I am seeking help.
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Moved from /ot/


Your backstory is so much alike mine it’s uncanny. How did you overcome the anxiety of taking classes again? Are drugs really the only way? I’ve been postponing any kind of formation or going back to a course because of this. I’m scared it’s gotten so bad to the point it developed to a phobia of school environments.


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Uuuuu igual depende. Mi última polola al inicio era una persona muy amable, pero con el pasar de los días se fue volviendo una relación super tóxica que duró sólo 3 meses, pero se sintió eterna.

Fue con una amiga que tenía como unos 21 años. Digámosle Feña.

En diciembre del año pasado, durante el velorio de mi abuelo le pedí internet a papá para revisar una cosa, y noté que en el inbox tenía un mensaje de un tipo al cual yo no conocía, en el cual contaba que la Feña mandó un video a un grupo de wsp la noche anterior, donde ella aparecía teniendo sexo con un tipo.

¿Lo cuático? El mensaje del cabro lo adjuntó junto al susodicho video, y reconocí la cara del weón. Resulta que era un híbrido flaite/emo del cual la Feña me hablaba de forma frecuente, y la fecha en la que lo conoció coincidía más o menos con la semana en la que su actitud hacia mí empezó a cambiar.

La bloqueé de todo y me fui del velorio sin despedirme de nadie. Todos andaban relativamente de buen humor en ese momento, así que no quise cagarles el ambiente.

En el tiempo que llevábamos juntos, nunca me dio un beso, ni siquiera un abrazo. Al inicio, cada vez que ella misma sugería esa idea, cuando estábamos a punto de hacer alguna de las 2 cosas sólo se retractaba y pedía perdón, con lo cual yo no tenía problema alguno. Pero luego del cambio de actitud, le daba la weá y me sacaba la chucha justificando que era porque le daba vergüenza. Usualmente acompañaba dichas sacadas de chucha con insultos y palabras como degenerado, gay, enfermo, etcétera. Osea qué cresta.

Lo peor era que me golpeaba en público, y ni siquiera podía defenderme de vuelta porque más de alguien podría malinterpretar la situación, y el hecho de que la cabra era medio victimista y mitómana no ayudaba en absoluto. También, constantemente desquitaba su enojo conmigo, tapándome en insultos y amenazas de diversos tipos.

Es primera vez que le cuento esto a alguien.
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