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 No.16800[Reply]

Thoughts on tvtropes. I think it's shit. None of the page titles make any sense or suggest what they're talking about. All of the articles are mostly just made up of referring to other tropes by their confusing, made-up names so the whole thing is just nonsense and worthless.
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 No.18557

>>18556
The worst part about tvtropes is that I actually like the concept. Patterns and cliches do exist in ficion and I do think that that could spawn an actually interesting encyclopedia. Maybe the history of the trope and how its origins and development were affected by the real world could be discussed to add some more substance, or maybe instead of just describing a trope, there could also be an explanation of the motivations writers have for using that trope and how it could be done better or worse. There's a million better ways to make a better tvtropes, but to make them you have to actually rub two brain cells together so it doesn't become a lazy clusterfuck.
>literally going on TVTropes and picking out trope pages that fit your premise
Oh, god, people actually do that? That is hands down the worst way to write a story that I have ever heard. I heard once from somewhere that good artists borrow, and great artists steal; they force their accumulated influences through their own creative process. Picking out tropes to make some fanfiction tier garbage is like imagining that you're asking somebody else to ask another guy to borrow something for a quick second.

 No.18560

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>>18556

I agree with a lot of this. Good characters are three dimensional, well-written, and complex. Their personalities should not consist of jargon that makes up a basic, overdone archetype. In my opinion, tvtropes is good if you want to read a quick summary of a work, but not much else. People shouldn't be applying tropes to real life.

>>18557

>There's a million better ways to make a better tvtropes, but to make them you have to actually rub two brain cells together so it doesn't become a lazy clusterfuck.


Tvtropes was actually worse a few years back, when Fast Eddie ran it. Recently, the site was revamped to get rid of shit like troper tales. It's a lot better than it used to be, but still has godawful pages like the ones posted here. Personally I wish the YN article would be rewritten and the WMG page done away with. It would be much better in that case.

>Oh god, people actually do that?


I feel like only people who use tvtropes would do that. Competent authors actually put effort into writing their cast.

 No.18595

>>18557
If you don't already know of this, you may be interested in the Aarne-Thompson classification system, it's specifically for folktales and groups them together in stuff they have in common. I think you're onto something, folklorists and other areas of study might already do this, without the tropey autism and rambling. Yeah, I personally 'wrote by tropes' myself once and nothing came of it because it didn't magically gel into a plot like I was expecting. What I ended up having was a genre written down, character -designs- (not even characters) and a shitload of tabs open on tropes I wanted to include or 'subvert'. Didn't even have a synopsis from start to end, any chapter summaries or even a single event down. I genuinely thought what I was doing was part of the process of writing but it was procrastinating at best, delaying the birth of whatever trope-infested spawn I envisioned at the time.
>good artists borrow, and great artists steal
Funny you mention that, I was going to say something like that in the post you replied to but I wasn't sure how it went. I thought it was like "good artists steal, great artists get away with it" but maybe that's a tongue-in-cheek warped version picked up from somewhere.
>I feel like only people who use tvtropes would do that. Competent authors actually put effort into writing their cast.
Definitely. Well, I would've said I was trying as a troper but it's seriously misguided effort.

 No.18596

>>18595
I haven't heard of it before, but it seems very interesting. It's definitely not perfect, but it's miles ahead of tv trope's cluster fuck approach. The longer, but more descriptive names are a lot better than something short, but made up. I prefer Cruel mother-in-law plans death of daughter-in-law to the dobbly foobly. I find it interesting that there's no index for character types. I guess that might fall under motifs. It still has problems like looking at stories on a macro-level instead of delving into deeper analysis and stories being grouped into one tale type despite having having a lot of differences. It's also just an index system, so I don't think there's any articles attached to the index entries. It could definitely work as a model for how things should be done though. Thanks for sharing.

 No.18601

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuAYqgb3wuI
^ This is what tropers look like when they're writing.



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 No.18538[Reply]

So, sometimes this happens. This is the second time someone from a Chinese domain name registrar has contacted me this way about a domain name I own. Maybe some day there will be a bar of soap called "Uboachan" or something.
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 No.18544

>>18543
Oh ok.

Just looking out for the guy

 No.18594

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>>18541
oh fucking god my sides

 No.18598

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Oh shit Sei you also forgot to black out your email address FUCK

Now our millions of Argentinos can pester you with emails about how Argentina es blanco, BLANCO

 No.18599

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>>18598
I'm argie and I already pest him almost everyday.

 No.18600

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>>18599
I have failed him, then. There is only one way to regain my honor. Goodbye friends! Mata Hari Sudoku!



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 No.18534[Reply]

I am excite

 No.18535

>>18534
please dont call me slut, thanks.

 No.18536

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Why are you excite? Is it because we are sluts?

 No.18552

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What do you want?

 No.18592

I want a Nanachi. Please hand me your Nanachi!

 No.18593

>>18592
Please get your own Nanachi.



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 No.18414[Reply]

as an example on how things never play out the way they do in the movies, here's the ending to the original 1964 Willy Wonka as is followed by how it would play out in real life

>Willy Wonka movie


Grampa Joe: it's an elevator

Wonka: it's a wonka vator! an elevator can only go up and down, but the wonka vator can go up and down, side to side, long ways and short ways, and up and till now I've pressed them all! except that one! go ahead Charlie!

now lets see how that same scene would play out if Willy Wonka had Aspergers syndrome

>Willy Wonka real life


Grandpa Joe: it's an elevator

you: it's a wonka vator! an elevator can only go…
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 No.18459

>>18456
Sorry to be rude but I'm getting a little irritated toward the fact that we're both speaking English yet there seems to be a language barrier between us that shouldn't exist!

 No.18461

>>18458
Did you seriously just use unironically use an mlp reaction image? Also, stop ignoring my posts. People don't go out of their way to act strangely to people with Asperger's syndrome. Are you in high school by any chance. That's extremely important for to know in this discussion and for me to understand you.

 No.18462

>>18458
>How was that not clear?
Because it's completely outside the topic of conversation, or at least you didn't make the effort to actually point out why it's relevant. I understand that you present normal behavior vs non-normal behavior, but what you don't realize is that with this analogy you are implying "normal" people engage in these "weird behaviors" towards aspies on purpose because they have aspergers, and then in the next post you tell me "normal people" get pissed off when aspies do this "weird shit". It's just too confusing because the information doesn't correlate and your point doesn't stand out at all. You're complaining that normal people pisses aspies on purpose by doing weird things but also telling me that they get mad when aspies engage in weird behavior, just what the hell is the point there? That's just people getting pissed when others do stupid shit. It doesn't have anything to do with what we were discussing just now.

 No.18463

>>18461
>Did you seriously just use unironically use an mlp reaction image?

No, that's Winnie the Pooh in a pink wig.

>Also, stop ignoring my posts.


When did I do that?

>Are you in high school by any chance. That's extremely important for to know in this discussion and for me to understand you.


No I'm not, haven't been for a while now.

 No.18555

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 No.18545[Reply]

There's a legend that the violinist Giuseppe Tartini kept himself in a room to practice almost constantly for years. When he reconnected with the world, it's said that it was hard to believe how much better he had become. If you could lock yourself in a room for a year to practice a single skill with zero social or economic repercussions, would you do it and what skill would you choose? Here's the rules: All of your living expenses are paid for, but you can't leave your room for any reason other than to use the bathroom, you can't opt out once you start, you cannot have access to any form of entertainment other than, you must spend as much time as possible practicing.
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 No.18547

>>18546
Okay additional rule. It can only be something that you can do by yourself.

 No.18548

moon runes

 No.18549

>>18547
So, sex.

 No.18550

>>18549
solo masturbation =/= sex

 No.18551

>>18550
Ok fine, I guess I'll stop shitposting. Although I had a couple Pornhub videos I could have posted if I was feeling snotty.

Fuck, I want to say Krav Maga or Jeet Kune Do but any fighting stuff really needs another person. I guess I would choose carpentry. Solid skill to have, good economic and household applications, makes a nice hobby, too.



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 No.18450[Reply]

Do you think our society likes to glorify mental illness/depression/anxiety? I sometimes think they do because I've seen normalfags really like to talk about their crippling anxiety and depression (although it could also be the noted rise of depression and mental illness among the newer generations). Not only that, but people's interest in things like outsider artists and the tortured artist stereotype. Is it just normal people wanting their boring lives to be more interesting?
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 No.18472

Depression is definitely romanticized because, despite being really frequent, it's also very misunderstood. Pretty much every other mental illness is heavily ostracizing, and mentally ill people are a vulnerable minority.

/thread

 No.18488

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I feel like, pertaining to such taboo subjects such as metal illness, rape, PTSD, crime (to name a few), society likes to glorify the aesthetics of such things. There's the stereotypical image of the tortured artist, sexual gratification, the glory of war, vigilante justice and more. We like these things in the abstract for what they represent in our minds. They appeal to our many repressed sensibilities. This arises through a detached concept of what these subjects actually entail.

 No.18490

>>18453
I mean, I know that feel. I was raised in a downwardly-mobile lower middle class household and my single mother still berated me for having things and not wörk wörk wörking every second of my life away. I remember how ashamed I felt for not qualifying for lunch assistance at school, even though I didn't have food to bring. Kids would give me shit for living in an owned (yet underwater) home instead of a rented apartment or trailer. It was like, fuck, if the world sees me as a spoiled brat, can I at least have a college fund or cable television?

But when I met guys who had it better than me, yeah I sneered at them just like everyone else. Even though I knew it was wrong.
>>18457
Attitudes like that further fuel the cagey mentality of the modern Black person. Getting these people on their feet required more than breaking their chains, as any sharecropper could tell you.
That's a messy generalization about the causes of mental illness, and any Behavioral theorist can trace both character flaws and *some* personality and neurological disorders back to improper rearing and abuse, with many patients experiencing these problems being exarcerbated by one another. Nurture is just as important as nature as far as clinical depression, sexual disorders, and even some intellectual disabilities. Check out John Money and the Boy With No Penis, then try to relegate mental illness and suicide to physiology. If the human mind was simple enough that we could understand it fully, we would not be able to understand it at all. I agree that cultural bias on the part of the practitioner has no place in the mental health system, and I feel your pain whenever topics such as rape culture or conversion therapy rear their ugly heads.
>>18472
You're very right. I place some of the blame for the romanticism surrounding depression not only on the mystery, but on the otherwise very constructive coping method of sublimation. Great artists such as Kurt Cobain have used their talents to cope, only to see those talents cast the anguish they tried to escape in a favorable light. In this way, great art is a memetic cognitohazard, whereas uncreative manifestations of sublimated depression fail to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.18500

>>18490
>Attitudes like that further fuel the cagey mentality of the modern Black person. Getting these people on their feet required more than breaking their chains, as any sharecropper could tell you.
Okay, how much more? Regardless of the cause, a reprehensible mentality is still nothing to admire.

 No.18502

>>18500
a lot of the opportunity to be proactive has passed. They're doing better now, I see a lot more black people in the suburbs and in positions of leadership at their work. This is because opportunities started opening up slowly over the past 30 years as racist attitudes and segregation receded. Both of which were huge economic and educational obstacles.
Had the post-Lincoln presidents tried to interfere in the postwar South to educate freed slaves and thusly enable them to diversify economically and participate in skilled trades (which are the best way to start a trans-generational social climb) they might have been able to mitigate the lost economic opportunities posed by racist attitudes in the North and South. And killing the exploitative and destructive sharecropper system would have been a boon in itself, in some ways it further degraded black opportunity to improve their condition.
Wealth, skills, and intangible advantages such as mentality are passed down through generations. This is why poverty is cyclical: if you come from nothing you have nothing to use to improve your living, reducing your chances of doing so, and having advantages to give your offspring. Because these advantages could not develop under slavery, no wealth for the next generation to inheirit and no precedence of success for them to draw from, the freed slaves did not have the tools that some migrants and middle class whites had. A jumpstart was needed, but once the war was done nobody cared. Hell, a lot of the free staters and abolitionists still wanted nothing to do with the blacks. Lincoln himself cared only for the preservation of the Union and democracy.
This is a community that lost everything when they left Africa, was denied the opportunity to start anew for 300+ years, and was economically hampered even outside of the plantation slavery model by precedence-inspired racism. Who will invest or trade with people that they have been taught are incompetent, especially when social pressure is levelled against them for even considering the idea?
A defeatist mentality is inspired, reinforced, and spread through defeat. We have seen this occur in other places, such as the Gaelic nations of Britain. Once the cycle is started, whether by human action or misfortune, it builds momentum both within the hampered community and its neighbors.
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 No.18395[Reply]

UBUU LIVED BITCHES
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 No.18430

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Shit, Ubu, you really scared me this time. Good to have you back. Really missed this place even though I don't post much.

 No.18432

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I haven't seen this much activity since 2013 or somewhen back then.
I'm very pleased.

 No.18449

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>>18432
You're welcome!
t. newfag/Krautchan emigrant

 No.18468

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Long live Ubuu

 No.18498

>>18395

Glad to see u back UBU!



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 No.18088[Reply]

What's going on with Lain lately? I remember a thread from a couple months ago talking about how lainchan died because some guy guessed the admin password and deleted everything for the hell of it. After that a new lainchan that looks way better was made. Where's that thread and what's the link to the new and improved lainchan? Also, what happened to tsuki and system space? Did anything happen on July 1st? Is tsuki dead? What the fucks going on people?
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 No.18168

>>18167
Besides the discord, how's the current system space board? Also, what's this about an impostor Tsuki? Was Tsuki actually investigated by the fbi?

 No.18175

>>18167
I'm laughing, I went to that site and found my post in the photo timeline.

 No.18197

>>18168
Snoop was == Tsuki for a period of time. Since Snoop had full access to Tsuki's PC via teamviwer(durr smart idea). Tsuki was never investigated by the FBI although many people have sent anonymous tips to authorities over the supposed 3 or so suicides that happened because of SS. As well as the relaxed stance on users committing (or rather trying) suicide. I don't really know what you mean by the boards. Arisuchan (Lainchan) has one, but many see it as a way of draining a dying community for traffic/promoting their website to a "cyberpunk" community. All the other Hyak chans/boards and shit are merely RPing off a dead community.

>>18175
Glad I could make you laugh. <3

 No.18496

>>18197
>Arisuchan
It seems comfy enough. ^_^

 No.18497

>>18496
"Comfy" says nothing.
The people posting come off as really rude/smug or russian, which isn't surprising since the website was created out of spite.
The posting quality isn't much higher than .org, even less possibly



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 No.18471[Reply]

Happy belated birthday, ubuu!
I wish I wasn't the only faggot who remembers.
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 No.18484

Nah I do remember, but I just got the site back up. I'm going to be a little late this year.

 No.18491

>>18483
Very nice. Thank you :)

 No.18492

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>>18483
Uh, I also am interested about your wedding anniversiry or whatever. Can I have a song now?

 No.18493

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>>18492
sure thing here you go
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZJJEX4Q7Raw
i hope u like it

 No.18495

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>>18492
Somewhere around August of 2009 (I think it was around the 10th). It's a shame I can't remember the exact day.
Here's your song https://youtu.be/rNuQ_KzxKZ0?t=1320 or a whole album, actually.



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 No.18474[Reply]

How do I stop caring what other people think of me?

 No.18476

Wrong board, not enough information about you.

 No.18477

You've already failed by asking for other people's opinions on how to stop caring about people's opinions.

 No.18479

That image almost made me lose my dinner, op.

I don't have much advice to offer, but I do notice one way I've learned to deal with it is when I reach my limit of how much bullshit I can take from people, and it's as if my brain automatically turns that worry off just out of tiredness and anger, refusing to care anymore.

>>18476
I don't think it is the wrong board, it's just more common to see topics like this being discussed over at /hikki.

 No.18485

Well there's always the age old advice that "people don't think about you as much as you do. That's true and worth bearing in mind when you go into deep thought spirals about one thing you did that you think everyone views you differently for. They probably don't most of the time.

Inevitably though, people do think of each other a lot, and sometimes people will think poorly of you. Just try to avoid doing really egregious things, and accept that you cannot completely stop worrying about how others perceive you.

You could also just not talk to anyone, but that sucks.

 No.18489

>>18485
>You could also just not talk to anyone, but that sucks.
You don't need to do this. There is an alternative. Only talk to people behind the persona you wish to present. Avoid expressing unpopular opinions that might get you torn down. Assume everyone is lying as much as possible to further their own ends. Life is easier and safer this way, I've found.



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