/ot/ - Off-topic

>>18385
You're only an incel if you call yourself one. It's a made up, arbitary buzzword that people use to label themselves and group together with other people who are equally superficial.

>>18210
Sex is really easy to get even though I haven't.

>>18385
>but I realize that the shit I go through is mostly my own fault and I don't really blame anyone for it nor let it influence things like my politics or my outlook on life.
Then you're not na incel.

some hikkis can get laid, every incel is so repulsive in appearance and demeanor they can not. nobody who is not an incel wants them on their board

Is there a difference between incels and very ugly people?

>>19654
Who cares about the alphabet and secret societies, what I care about is knowing the maximum amount of Tang one can drink before dying of stomach explosion or worse.

>>19658
One time I asked if nanomachines could replace exercise by manually creating micotears in muscle, and an ivy league man gave me a compelling, in-depth answer.

>>19660
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please try to stay on-topic, this is getting silly even for /ot/ standards

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>>19732
>mewch died
Great, now they'll stop leaving their spam here.

sushi, ubuu, sometimes dreamchan and very rarely lain. Looking through the responses in this thread is actually kind of disheartening. There are so few alt chans out there that actually have a decent amount of people. How small really is the chan userbase?

>>19735
>How small really is the chan userbase?
I wouldn't group them all them together. Kids/Reddit and tumblr leakage probably makes up the largest amount of people who use larger boards. Next is people interested in spreading their political bs and after that other extremist freaks like incels and feminazis. There's a lot of overlap between those, but they're not necessarily the same. Regardless of what a reddit user believes, there's a much higher chance they'll be obnoxious. The second smallest minority is genuine weebs who aren't only interested in using the, "aesthetic", for their own ends. The smallest group being uncommon, specific hobbyists like trainanons. Elitist haxorfags are somewhere in the middle.

>>19735
>How small really is the chan userbase?

Most smaller chans give off the impression of having <500 active users. Anything above that seems to attract shitposting and an overall decline in post quality. I've given up on browsing larger imageboards. I use the internet to relieve stress, discover new things, and to have an interesting discussion once in a while. 4chan doesn't offer that anymore, it's just an echo chamber filled with irrational hatred and devoid of rational thought.

I used to visit and post on a lot of other imageboards but lately I have been feeling less at home on them.

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>>19722
I don't know much about computers, but from what I've read, the course that's going to be taken towards human style thought will be through progressively more powerful hardware.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/10567942/Supercomputer-models-one-second-of-human-brain-activity.html
Is there some difference between this and more accurate, "strategies"? Would something better than function approximation be possible on a run-of-the-mill house computer?

>>19723
As far as I understand it, "neural networks" are only superficially similar to how our brain works. They were modeled/inspired by how neurons connect to each other in layers, but beyond that we don't really know if our human brain does anything similar to backprop. Moreover, the structure of the brain changes over time, whereas currently artifical neural networks maintain a fixed topology. I think we also don't really have much information on how exactly our own neurons connect to/influence each other - this is an area of research that's still ongoing (connectome).

Even breakthroughs in recurrent learning such as AlphaZero ultimately come down to learning a way to efficiently do tree search to maximize a defined objective. The issue is that the techniques we have are only feasible when we can write down nice closed objectives to maximize or minimize. One aspect ascribed to "general AI" is the ability to dynamically reason, which will probably require some way for it to come up with/discover its own objectives. Given this, progress towards the sort of general AI that we see in movies and could feasibly mimic humans will probably first require some understanding of how our connectome works.

This is also my own personal opinion but I think there also needs to be some fundamental shift in our architecture (both computer hardware as well as the way we currently build/train networks) to enable it. The fact that we're throwing kilowatts of power to train networks while the human brain can do it in just dozens of watts to me feels like we're trying to brute force our way there and there ought to be some other more elegant, simpler approach that will also simultaneously solve the power consumption issue.

>>19724
In terms of "hardware", humans are far more complex than machines. I wouldn't say how we do it could be considered, "elegant", considering how we need a walking chemical plant, frequent bio-mass intake, and daily eight hour down times for maintenance and data uploading. Maybe that's the only way of doing it besides brute forcing, maybe it's not and humans can come up with something even better. People focus the most on our brains, but from a bilogical standpoint, our genitalia is the most important. Our brains are just here because they help us figure out how to live long enough to use them.

>>19723
True Turing AI is probably not going to happen any soon. At best, Cleverbot gets marginally better. At worst, nothing at all happens. As it stands right now, AI is a total meme and it's the same as "the cloud" (rebranding stuff everyone had for a decade under buzzwords to appeal to investors) has been for the last few years.

>>19708
I know politics make for shitty conversation and all, but just look at that Bronx chick's, "green new deal". It's hilarious.
https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-radical-mandate-government-con

>>19712
Yep, happy new year anon. Russian people are pretty unreasonable. I had two glasses of champagne even though i'm not 21 yet. In your own house it's whatever, but this was a public place in a venue with like 200 people. Something about that is surreal. I'm back in my hotel room now becuase I wasn't in the mood for watching the second half of paranormal activity with a couple of wiggers. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but they're just very boring people with poor music taste. Good night.

>>19713
>very boring people with poor music taste
My neighborhood had favela music playing until 3am, I'd take russian trashy music in a heartbeat

>>19716
Nope. The party had Russian music. People, "my own age", just listen to rap when they're together though.

>>19701
>I never understood the appeal to celebrating the beginning of a new year, it's the most depressing "holiday" in existence.
It's the symbol representing the passing of time, the "ritual", what drives to celebrate these kind of things as holidays. It's like birthdays; they're there only to remind you that time passes and you can't do anything to stop it.

While I understand it, I don't see why everybody frets their shit so much about it. I mean, it's no different than a weekend. Monday always comes right after it.

What's work like?

Why won't you work in a field you like instead?

There is a lot of alternatives when it comes to work, especially if having not-so-high-but-enough-to-live-with salary doesn't matter to you much. You can try yourself as a freelancer, you can go to the courses for a thing you're interested in (with the money you've saved from this work you do now. there are a lot of courses that give you work in the field once you've finished), you can find work where you do nothing, you can find a work where you have to travel a lot if you're into that kind of thing (you can became a stuart and fly to the different countries for example) etc.

Maybe you're not happy with the lifestyle this work forces you to have.

i hate my job too and im just glad school financial aid allows me to only work it minimally. boring job with no physical work. dont give up though, save up. save up a lot of cash.

>>19633
Its tedious and stressful (depending on what job you have) but at least it pays the bills and fills the fridge. I miss my NEET days but I would never switch back to it if I could help it.

You are doomed to fail, but so is everyone else.

I believe in you, anon.
Go ahead but don't push yourself too hard.

Do you have any hobbies (like drawing, programming, making music)? If yes, I'd recommend you joining discord servers with the people doing things you do or like. Because if you join server just with social outcasts, it may be difficult to find a topic to talk about so it will be hard for you to start a conversation sometimes. BUT if you join server with people sharing your interests in case you don't know what to talk about you always can say something on the topic of this particular interest and you'll always be sure that everyone will be interested in this as much as you do.

And also if you feel uncomfortable in some particular group — it's always okay to leave. You can't like everyone in this world and that's pretty normal.

K

Still love you Mado