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the money in my bank account, not related to the SCP

http://dream.uboachan.ne

I've been trying to get people to join lol

izskatīt dokumentus, pārdomāt dzīvi

Oh probably. Things seem to move too quickly when I'm extremely online.

The net is an incredible time sink for me. When I stay offline, daytime crawls slower than sin, I become really angry and unsatisfied with everything, until I eventually go to bed to sleep the bad feelings away.

I think we definitely perceive it faster in this day and era. Information is more readily available, and each year seems like a bunch of highs and lows marked by an insane number of publicized (non-personal) events. Where as the media portrayal of previous decades pre-00s have been rather consistent, there seems to be no big collective thought about what the 00s and 10s were. You might remember the 00s as the last gasp of media moguls, MTV, Nirvana ripoffs/emo projects, and the popularization of the Internet, but that's by large doing it a disservice, and someone else probably remembers it for something different. Information overload and analysis paralysis has struck every corner, and who knows what other big news might be in the other end of the spectrum. For that matter, we still seem to be stuck on the same time loop. People still call back to the 80s even though people that lived through the 80s as a child/teenager are probably in their 50s-60s now. Retrofuturism and faux-nostalgia is more popular than ever. On the other hand, I've spotted people on the Internet who are already nostalgic about the 10s, and it's fucking weird. Nostalgia usually hits you on stuff that happened some ~15 years ago.
I think we soon may be hitting a big temporal gap or schizophrenia of sorts in the future. Like the Mandela Effect but at large. For one small example, remember YouTube annotations? Remember Flash? I'm already unsure as to what annotations certain videos had. And most Flash content in this day and age is by and large gone outside of survival bias. Nobody is invalidated, and nobody is right.

On the side, a worrying trend I've spotted that's been picking up traction in the mainstream sphere of the Internet are so called "internet historians" who recite shit from KYM/ED, do some two minute search on web archive, and just overall reek of faggotry and do History majors a big disservice. It's the beauty of the internetz, you can lie and get away with it. And maybe in the future we'll recall a lie too.

I'm not sure to what extent it has affected my perception of the real world, but in regards to online acquaintances and events, it feels as if it all simply pauses when I'm not there. I'll talk to some online buddy or group chat, leave for 2 weeks and return as if nothing happened, and then be surprised at them lamenting my absence because it feels like I was just there a moment ago. With running online trends and the like too, I just can't bring myself to give a shit about staying relevant, so when I finally get to it, everything feels like it just happens in huge bursts. I suppose this is why slower image boards like this suit me more.

>>19798
Interesting perspective. I know a person who is seemingly nostalgic for 2016 for whatever reason. Also note that your view of these eras and generations might be a bit americentric and doesn't necessarily apply to the population outside your sphere, even considering how globalized culture has become. The 90s, for example (though you didn't directly mention them), being a golden childhood era is a pretty consistent meme on the internet, but meanwhile my own country was war-torn and fucked during most of this period.

>>19798
I'm nostalgic for the mid to late 2000s, it depends on the person and how their life was at the time.

>>19761
UPD:
I've found one more new channel in the links of 全てわたしの所為です。

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjn7wcFZlYHQfxikxvVNp8g/featured
Greetings, 全て???の偶像です。( Everything is idol of ??? )

Oh boy, we have so much new content on our hands now!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMprooSMAxN5htwganr_ICg
Subetewatashinoshoidesu. Found this youtube channel yesterday. Made on 31st of December, might've been made by Subeteanatanoseidesu. 2 Full songs have been uploaded with 1 unlisted video which is the short version for the song titled Fires and also a teaser video announcing a new song on 31st of January, (has been confirmed on twitter). There is morse code inside those songs. For the teaser video, the morse code translates to this "どうしてきらうのなんでわかんないしね" while on the …… video it translates into "ぐうぞうもすうはいしやもねつこがくさればすべておわりみつをすいつづけたものがひからび". One of the commenters said that the meaning is similar to "偶像も崇拝者も根っこが腐れば全て終わり蜜を吸い続けたものが干からび". The account seems to be talking to each other as well. subeteanatanoseidesu translate to its all your fault, and subetewatashinoshoidesu translates to its all my responsibility. the twitter account linked to watashi's youtube is @or_should_you. probably a broken English for "or it's yours". The account has stated that he is indeed subetenosei, but on the QnA, he held on his twitter, he mentioned that he is not the same. No more info is known as of now, until the new song he'll be releasing on the end of the month.

on the 火種 video he posted, there is a string of letters on the bottom of the description. if you put it after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=, it'll redirect you to the unlisted video.

here is the link to the unlisted video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDqMtxgBAmc [embed]
its the shorted version of 火種 with a little bit different in the video. like the colour of the falling letter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvtTQXo-_kA
「Live coals」
Something changed in the intro part this time. Now 御アクセス is changed into 誤アクセス which can be interpreted as "WRONG access"

There were a lot of idioms references in this song, so I left explanations in spoilers.

大きなその指先で、
綺麗にそれを一摘み。
Having fingers this big,
Clearly this was so easy for you.

泣きっ面を狙う蜂の如く、
全て砕けてく。
Like the wasp, trying to sting crying face,泣きっ面に蜂misfortunes never come alone
You've squashed everything.
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>>19555
What're you using to download these videos? You should probably use youtube-dl, since it will give you the best video quality, and you can also download metadata with it, such as video IDs, descriptions, upload dates, subtitles, etc.
Also, unless the videos are improperly labeled, it looks like the short versions of . and .. are missing from the folder…

>>19806
(Not OP)
I've made a new folder and uploaded recent videos as well
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mZwO6tlVKLs3Ju_QQno1wpjO1DcSsVmg?usp=sharing

Thank you, didn't knew about youtube-dl, I'll use it from now on

Do your fucking reps

>>19550
All hail the Great Necrobumper!

>>/fg/13739
i hope the link works or else i'll look stupid

>"masu stem"
>I mostly see them used as a "neutral" form of the て form.
Hmm… Is there any subtle difference in usage of te-form and this stem? I refuse to think that there is something completely similar.
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/28513/use-of-verb-%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99-stem-when-%E3%81%A6-form-seems-possible — something I've found on the interwebs. Not too convincing thou.

I also see a lot of sentences (especially in those songs we're translating) _ending_ on stem form. Is this even legal? Or that's corrupted grammar everyone talks about? Because that means that the verbs in sentence don't have any form at all, right? I don't know… I'm confused.

>On a related note, I found an alternative translation for appeal.
>人々や世論などに広く訴えること。また、その訴え。「反核をアピールする」
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>>19553
For crossboard linking, use >>> (triple "greater than" symbols).

>>>/fg/13739

>Is there any subtle difference in usage of te-form and this stem?
The difference between 連用形 and て形 is that the former sounds more neutral/formal and is mostly used in written language to describe things in an impersonal way, such as a dictionary (i.e. a wikipedia entry).
As to why it seems to be so popular in VNs and these songs, it's probably because the stem is shorter than conjugating the て form and thus they fit better in the lyrics, and in VNs it's probably because it's easier to read.

Yes, it is legal. As I said, just think of stem verbs as being conjugated in て.

Ubuu, do you have any decent Japanese grammar exercise book to recommend?

I've finished studying Tae Kim and several other grammar books. They provided a nice basis for knowledge but now I want to just grind out shit ton of grammar exercises to practice. I took a look at Genki's workbook but it's extremely slow-paced and contextual so I didn't quite liked it. I use Anki and shit, and it's surely good for learning new words and kanjis, but I still feel like I'm stuck and need decent exercise book. Any recommendations?..

P.S.Of course you can always practice by talking to people and translating stuff, and I'm doing this rn. Butttt… I feel like Japanese people are too polite to call out my shitty usage of grammar as long as they can understand what I'm saying. So I feel like I really need to just grind textbooks to understand what I'm doing, saying and understanding wrong.

>>19804
A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar. There's an Anki deck too.

A torrent client and a keyboard. I've found most web-based resources to be rather lackluster for anything that isn't English or Japanese, and YouTube videos are a rabbit hole. Russian resources, for example, were very lacking. I haven't heard good stuff about Duolingo and it just looks and sounds like a procrastinator's dream. With most languages, you should in general learn the script/alphabet (if applicable), get a grammar sheet or two, and learn some vocabulary and get ready to try and contextualize stuff. Try buying a (reputable) college book on Korean or pirating it like everyone is supposed to. I don't know much about Korean, so take this with a grain of salt, but this seems to be the most reputable beginner level resource:
http://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Korean-Beginning-Textbooks-Language/dp/0824834402/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260972037&sr=8-1

>>19802
I already know the alphabet; Korean is known for the easy alphabet and hard as hell grammar. Anyways, thank you! The book you found looks like a good find, positive reviews and cheap compared to other highly rated books I found. Good looking suggested books too. I'm probably going to pool resources for a college book, pirating's never been my thing even though I have no fucking money.

>>19764
Ironically this entire post is very 4, maybe a 4 fix.

>>19769
Ironically, this post is super gemini with a dash of cancer. You're gonna need to open up your root chakra some more.

>>19770
That's not even…comparable to astrology

>>19764
Don't really care for personality tests as I don't see any value in them but took the test you linked anyway. Like the other anon on this thread I also received 5w6. Apparently I have a type 1 personality and the description somewhat seems to describe the type of person I have been the past few years.

Your ideas to include questions pertaining to how a person treats people of different social ranks is interesting and probably would result in more effective tests.

However, the main issue I see with personality tests are related to the actual method of gaining answers; from the person themselves. If a person is not good at introspection or is highly emotional the day they fill in the test, the results will be inaccurate. Having other people fill in the test for you also seems to have similar issues.

Before we try to find better methods of testing we should ask what value the results of a personality test offer anyone. I struggle to find much value in assigning different personality 'types' to people. (Perhaps it could discover which couple combinations work best or which personality types tend to form friendships with one another).

I don't really believe super strongly in personality tests and don't do them too often. I did a couple different ones once because of the Homestuck Title Test on Tumblr some time ago.

I can't remember the exact results, only that I'm a Mage or Seer of Hope. Make of that what you will.

Everyone knows the admin account is called Seisatsu and the password is ubuu123(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>19787
Dammit, now I have to change it.

I've been watching Steven Universe since when it first came out. I've lost interest years ago, but I still watch every episode out of some sense of obligation and want of closure. I want it to fucking die already so I can move on with my life. I just watched the 44 minute special. I thought it was only gonna be ten minutes, when I saw the time length, I felt pain. It's hard to keep watching without pausing every twenty seconds and taking a break. I'm also currently watching Jojo and mp100. The contrast is crazy. SU doesn't even have fights. They just roll around and shoot energy beams. It's sooo fucking lame in comparison. I have a whole document full of ideas on how I would improve it. Somewhere down the line, i'd like to make comic based on my ideas and call it space dykes or something…

I've thought about the differences between Japanese and American animation before, specifically 2-d. Japanese animation has far greater overall output, it's average far exceeds the quality of average American animation, and the best Japanese animation is better than the best American animation. Even something like Disney has stylistic choices that don't appeal to me, like making all of the characters move around like they're made of jello. This is both unrealistic and a waste of resources. While Japanese animation makes the best usage of its resources and doesn't compromise on character design for the sake of budget, American animation opts to drag every aspect down rather than be clever about it. From what I could gather, the main root of the issue is the cost of living in America, but i'm not sure how well that explanation actually holds up.

In terms of storytelling, I'd say even something on the shakier side like Chobits is better than Steven Universe. It's knows what it wants to do and executes it like how you would expect from something made by professionals.

>>19776
These are my exact thoughts mostly, even the part about Disney. I didn't think I'd ever be such a weeb but moving on from American animation to see how much better the rest of the world is at it, you really can't come back. You'll never see something like Mob Psycho come out from there. The closest thing I can ever think of that compared to the quality of anime is Avatar: The Last Airbender and it was clearly a fluke that couldn't be replicated ever again.

I never understood the mentality of 'I hate this thing but I have to see it through the end to move on'. If I really can't stand something anymore I'll just drop it. It might be hard at first but it really is worthwhile, you can always find something better to replace it.

>>19776
On the average, most western plots and premises are more unique and creative in comparison to the average anime plot (either moe SoL romcom ecchi light novel/mangoes adaptation with self insert MC and a harem or the shounen boss of the week with power escalation). Western animation is also more trendy while most anime stick to a clear formula. Execution, on the other hand, is another matter. Most Japanese studios (and the people that make them up) have been longstay and have more experience with the medium, while western is as come and go as it can get. Most recent CalArts stuff is rather trash and focuses more on fulfilling social justice quota or appealing to children and viral media. On animation and style, anime still consistently ripoffs Disney while western animation is still dogshit and choppy.

I don't believe both mediums will reach an acceptable consensus (in the eyes of mainstream) due to demographics. Like how almost all anime characters are either lolis, teenagers or young adults because they're pandering to otaku, teenagers and people who can't let high school go. People eat both of these up, so unless the producers and the middle men meddle with something, it's unlikely for both to sell for the better.

>In terms of storytelling, I'd say even something on the shakier side like Chobits is better than Steven Universe.
I didn't like Chobits when it came out, and that was some 17 years ago. It felt like it simply gone nowhere except for the occasional "haha its okay molesting a robot" joke. I don't even know how it got to air on TV in the first place, ratings were much more strict back then. It had a sort of cool concept that could be explored more throughly, but it felt very much wasted by mindless pandering. I'd say the average /co/ shlock would be far more entertaining.

But at least anime with a promising concept have a lesser rate of being Kubo'd and hack written than western animation. Corporate meddling is insane here.
Even when it's written by a hack, at least its more visually stimulating. Inital D turned into DBZ with cars past Project D and it was still dumb, albeit formulaic, fun. JoJo is still retarded, and that's good. If any cartoon gets trolled on the other hand it turns into dogfood because there's nothing there to hold it back up, not even animation. The latest "turnPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19777
>Avatar: The Last Airbender
That definitely was lightning in a bottle. Animation wasn't always the best, but the fight scenes were serviceable and the aesthetic worked. Even Korra pales in comparison because two of the creators lost sight of what made the original good and the third didn't even come back. I do have to give credit where credit it due, Gumball has done some impressive things. It's not fully 2-d though and i'm pretty sure it's produced in Canada, or somewhere else outside of the states. The humor doesn't appeal too much to me and I've only seen clips, but it does impress me with its variety.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFJ5tiIJ94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-4L_-fdxWs
>If I really can't stand something anymore I'll just drop it.
Normally i'd agree with you, but this has been sevenish years of investment and at one point I really did see potential in it. A tiny bit of the fight scene animation in earlier seasons showed some effort. Beginning of this clip shows what I mean. Different angles, shots, panning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FOUfsELtMk
For the most part, this is shot reverse shot. It's even lamer than these two characters first fight if you've seen that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UkdLY6lgGQ
Mob Psycho 100, beginning of the season, totally insignificant fight for comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZth3IJr8fw
>>19778
>On the average, most western plots and premises are more unique and creative
Nah. I get what you're saying, but when you look at total volume, that's just not true. There's a sea of generic slice or life/harem stuff sure, but the bulk of anime with interesting premises it larger than the total bulk of western animation, especialPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I wanna condense my point as much as possible.
1.Quantity
Look at what's airing now. Now look at the seasonal anime chart. Do that for every season, of every year, for 30+ years. There you go.
2.Average
I randomly picked Hanamaru Youchien.
For the American one, hmmmmm, how about…. apple and onion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO49cDOIxxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsnxNdRFYLk
What about their ops?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnecMaTytT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A9YzON11nw
I also looked at some truly bottom of the barrel stuff like Acchi Kocchi, that seemed comparable, but it's not average.
3.The Best
How good does it get? What's the highest quality anybody has reached? I don't really know where to start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZz2njtQP2Y
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Monster girl quest. Generally i'm not into fantasy, lord of rings type stuff. I don't hate it, but it doesn't appeal to me. Monster girl quest is actually the only exception to this. I guess I like the idea of there being something higher than humans on the food chain, something that's intelligent and good looking to boot. I also like how Christianity type stuff is mixed with shinto and neither one is actually super praise worthy. Everybody is more or less equal despite everything else. Not realistic, but it doesn't have to be. Nostalgia also has to do with it.

I'd be a slimegirl. Live forever, never have to chew food or sleep, never worry about cutting yourself, stronger than average person.

Probably The Wired. Late 90s (physical) cyberspace ideals, not only in media and culture but in manifestos and futurism are incredibly awkward looking back. I was hoping VR would have a browser to present this idea into motion, but commercial VR is a fucking meme.