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Changed Rule #1 to allow general age-related discussions. Asking a specific user about their age is still not allowed.

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Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues, and particularly help in escaping the NEET lifestyle, but this focus is not exclusive. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
* Intentionally breaking these rules or the global rules will still result in a warning or ban.
* Rule 6 is enforced more liberally on /hikki/. Users may be banned from /hikki/ for inflammatory remarks in cases which might not result in a ban on other boards.
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I used to post here before but stopped after living a normal lifestyle, for a while atleast. I got fired and I've been jobless for like months now. My previous motivation to work on my personal projects and illustrations have all since diminished. I feel only apathy when playing games or watching stuff like I used to enjoy. Nowadays I just constantly press f5 on various image boards to pass time and listen to songs I've heard countless of times before already. Then I remembered this place and feel like I should share this here.

Please feel free to share your current situation here so we can feel alone togehter or some gay shit.
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Absolutely right. Nothing really entertains me these past few years. Every time I jump onto a new thing, I quickly grew tired of it knowing that its another pointless activity. This is why my only form of entertainment these days is tying a rope over my neck and choking myself while masturbating.


That's actually really motivating! I want to save your post and keep it as a reminder or something. There have been a couple instances where I pushed myself out the door and went for a walk around my neighborhood. It's pretty nice. I wish there was more to explore than endless suburbs here, but I do appreciate the time away from distractions.


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Doesn't matter if it's suburbs, anything's good. You learn to appreciate even the smallest things. There's lots of neat little dead-end streets around where I live, as well as lots of birds and insects. Cats, too. Sometimes you find a cat that doesn't run away from you but instead comes running up to you and basically throws itself at your feet for pats. That's always nice. If they run away, that's cool too. Sometimes you meet friendly old people out for a stroll. It's fun to see how those familiar streets change at different times of day and with different seasons, too. Everything's an opportunity for appreciation and an insight into how you personally choose to experience things.

If this stuff appeals to you, I recommend checking out Taoism and Zen. I found this book to have nice, brief but detailed summaries of each in a relaxed and easy to read manner. There's a PDF on google. I'm not sure how accessible it would be to a complete beginner, but it did seem to be fairly accessible. If you're very deeply entrenched in the Western ways of thinking we're often brought up in, it may seem confusing or even pretentious, but that's ok. Just try to keep yourself open.


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You should get plastered and smash it yourself.
Love is fake. It's just a chemical in your brain This applies to all emotions, but love is the only one that drains so much from a person. Happiness is enjoyable, love is a pain in your ass that fades with time and leaves you with an anorexic wallet and a deep sense of regret. There is no, "the one". This isn't the matrix, there is no special person out there made just for you. There's seven billion people on earth and at least a handful are people who you're compatible with enough to slap genitals together with. This is probably really easy for me to say because I have never felt love before. Never. Lust, definitely, infatuation, maybe, love, no. Sometimes, I'm not even convinced that love is a real thing. When I think about it, I can feel what love would be like hypothetically, but it's more directed towards the idea of somebody I would love than to anything more tangible than that. Don't waste your time on it, indulge your body in pleasure. Don't be a faggot purist. There's nothing to stop your love from being a cheat or adulterer.


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Love is a very loosely-used word. For some, the lust and infatuation you mentioned are considered love. The word "love" can also apply to for example: loving a best friend, a parent loving their child, loving a pet, loving an ideal or concept, the love of somebody trying to help another out of empathy or sympathy, teenage "love" (that weird chemical kind where your mind just decides you're attracted to that person you've never spoken to who isn't even that physically attractive).

Love is just a word. But through how it's used in media, we come to believe it's some special bond. That love is a -thing- and not a -word-. That's where the confusion arises. If people are looking for somebody to spend their time with, I believe it's best to do away with the "love delusion" and instead just pay attention to those whose personality traits are the traits that you find pleasant. Also, their interests. The idea of romantic love is still not very sound with how subject to change a "self" is, though. You cannot romantically love a person for what they "are" because that "are" is always changing, and could in most cases quite easily become something you find repulsive, let alone what you yourself are searching for changing.

In short, it's best to just be around people you are happy to be around, without clinging to them or seeking anything further. The search or longing for a romantic partner is futile and distracts you from the happiness you could find in the present.

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 No.254[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How old are you?

ADMIN NOTE: This discussion is OK again since the change to Rule #1.
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got stuck in the lifestyle at 16 and now I know things really need to change but I have no idea how




Just wondering. Is it still forbidden to mention how old you are if it were related to the discussion on hand? Like, say, a thread about NEETdom as a 25+ person and stuff like that.


Tbh I'm having second thoughts about how this rule is implemented so I think I'll make a /sugg/ thread to explain why I put it there and see what people think.


Rules changed, bumplock removed. Don't ask a specific user about their age and don't reveal yourself to be underage, and you're fine.

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Ay /hikki/
15 year old here.
Fuck it I hate everything and I'm tired of everything.
Long story short, I'm gonna become a neet next year.
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This is why condoms exist.


Lurk before posting and don't forget to go to bed early or mom will be mad.


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Can we shitpost in this thread Sei?


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Moved to >>>/ot/17635.

>>3257 Do it outside. I can't even believe this is a real user, the multiple rule breaking is too succinct and perfect. I'm going to treat it as a joke.

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Do you have any unusual aspirations that you did not have outside of NEETdom?

I have been getting some very strange longings to become a street artist. I've even been creating stencils and posters that I will never put up. I guess the optimistic viewpoint is that I've been released from wage slavery and now want to do something real and exciting with my life, but its never going to happen anyway because I'm too scared of the police so I mostly just sleep and kill myself.

I also want to wear a cloak and sword and go on a Hobbit style adventure, but…
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It's true that I could have done a lot more in the past if I wasn't scared for my personal safety every day


If I can't break out of this NEET poorfag shell by wageslaving it my only hope to live more comfortably is to make something artistic people would pay me for. I lack confidence that I can do that though. I need a real job, even if it's just temporary.


I've always wanted to write stories about all the stuff I kept thinking about. I have several characters already and wrote up their back stories and shit. I always want to make a game of this (possibly on RPGMaker due to how easy it is to utilize) even though I have no real want to show them to others. Kind of like writing imaginary diaries of my characters.

Well after writing this post, I guess I'll look up on how to instead of just wasting away playing games.


Pro tip: making a game is a different type of work than looking up how to make a game and trying to apply that.

I don't say this because I am some wizard that always knows the right way. I say that because I did this and failed because I didn't know the right way. Probably if someone told me what to do I wouldn't listen to them either


That protip is pretty obvious enough. You didn't really need to say it.

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Hello, /hikki/.

For 2 years now, I've only went out the house for school, and even with school I don't hang out with people.

You see, I moved far away from my best friend. We were closer than peas in a pod, practically glued to each other.
We'd explore the city, have trips to the mall and explore abandoned areas in our school district.

Unfortunately, we had a falling out since I was an immature freshman, and took her for granted. I belittled her art skills and made fun of her obsession with a show. We made up, but I always felt guilty, she assured me I was alright, but due to circumstances that I can't share, I had to skip our exams, leave and move upstate, and never see her again.

Now, I've moved from Louisiana to New York, and 3rd-year high school bore no friendships for me, since I had so much regrets with how I treated her.
I couldn't be close to someone else after her, and I'd like some advice from you.
Please leave advice, Ubuu. I desperately need it.
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Thanks! That means a lot to me, actually. I appreciate your words ;w;

You're right.
I did need time to myself. I've been having delusions of having the 'perfect friendship' that you see on anime and TV, since I remembered our friendship is a weird, warped way. I can't even remember how I said goodbye, I only remember the thoughts that I've lost the only person who cared for me. I already cleared those thoughts away, but damn, those were terrible…

Reading the first post again, I sound like I'm looking for an ex-girlfriend or something. That's… Not at all good. If she read this, she'd be totally creeped out.
A new hobby is what I need.

What you've shared to me is wonderful, and will help me a lot. Thanks for the advice!


man you even write like an underage fag(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)




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If you're friend really would be creeped out by your genuine feelings than your relationship really did suck. People are awful. Also I can smell the adolescence bleeding from your posts about something as petty as losing a shit friend. Can't blame the young for acting it though.

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hi /n/, im curious about the NEETdom and wondering if you could answer some questions?

how long have you been a NEET?
was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
what do you do all day?
what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
how often do you get outside, if at all?
do you live independently or with parents?
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>how long have you been a NEET?
6 and a half years, complete hiki for the last 5.

>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?

Mental health issues, mainly ASD & Anxiety (Both social and general). Was on track for theoretical physics degree but couldn't cope with the stress/socialising/expectations. Started smoking weed to cope and ended up dropping out on my last year.

>what do you do all day?

Mostly PC, occasional chores. Ususally either gaming, programming (but I haven't the motivation anymore), and reading random things to pass the time.

>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?

Several friends on TeamSpeak and Skype who I talk to. One RL friend from school but he lives far away so I've only met up with him once in all this time. Only one other hiki friend.

>how often do you get outside, if at all?

Rarely. Trying to a bit more now even if I don't have a real reason to. It seems so surreal out there after all this time, so it takes a lot of mental energy to even take a walk.

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>how long have you been a NEET?
Kinda hard to say as I have been trying to do something with my life, failing and eventually going back to the scratch all time. Oficially, the last time I've tried to do something was in 2015, but I'm a NEET de facto since 2011, when I dropped out school.

>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?

I don't know, I've never liked to socialize and I've never been interested in "normal" things. You know, maybe I (and us) just wasn't made to live in society. Maybe there are "lone humans" who rejects society just like there are lone wolves who rejects their packs. I always got nervous in social situations, reaching to the point of sweating and shaking when talking to strangers. But everything really went downhills after my father dies and I had to left school to take care of my mother.

>what do you do all day?

Housework, walking outside, gaming, internet (animus, chans, porn, this sort of thing).

>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?

Offline, pretty much only my family. Online, I have plenty of friends, particularly from steam. I'm very grateful for that: these people are my only source of contact with the outside world and the only thing keeping me from commiting sudoku.

>how often do you get outside, if at all?

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>how long have you been a NEET?
Over a year now. I was a NEET once before too which lasted for a year before I tried college.
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
I had a mental breakdown. Now I'm just lazy, apathetic/depressed, or maybe I'm a coward
>what do you do all day?
Gardening, reading sometimes, sleeping, exercise, watching films, playing music. When my depreshun gets bad then I don't do anything except for sleep and vegetate. I have to force myself to do things.
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
Used to sit on IRC, now I just chat with a couple of old 4chan friends on skype once in a while.
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
It's summer right now so I go out into the garden almost everyday. I leave the 'property' maybe once a week to go for a walk.
>do you live independently or with parents?
With my parents, I'm a worthless leech


>how long have you been a NEET?
3 years
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
I wanted to study math in college but exposure to that level of study made me exhausted and ineffective. I also have trouble going into public without a family member.
>what do you do all day?
Study my fields of interest at the pace of an iceberg and try to make progress in spiritual development. When it gets tiring again i watch game shows or old movies on TV to relax.
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
I post on discussion boards and write text documents to myself. Offline my loneliness is abated by my father and sister who i see at least once a day to retrieve dinner from.
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
When they eat out i usually go along, about twice a week. I also try to go into the yard and pull weeds a few times a week if it's quiet out.
>do you live independently or with parents?
With parent


The reason I'm a neet is because I have this awful paranoia that people want to kill me and television news are talking about me, it's irrational but I can't stop feeling that way.

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hey so i was 3-months Neet at my mothers house until i got kicked out and now im at my jobs and got my current hours cut to just the weekends, i have going around town looking for any 'now hiring' signs to no luck. so my question for right now is what to do to improve my chances of getting hired/finding a job? Do I go to college and wait 4 years? do i go to vocational school to pick up a skill while i wait at college? do i just keep going at customer service/ retail jobs?


The first thing you could do is start writing properly. What do you mean by going to vocational school while waiting at college? If you go to vocational school, you aren't going to be waiting for college. The option you pick depends on where you want to be in life. Do you want a blue, collar job, or do you want a white collar one?


Create things and sell them on etsy or set up a patreon. Target businesses that you would like to work at and find out if they're hiring or willing to take on an apprentice.


By vocational school i was talking about picking up a trade and then leaving to go back to college to get a higher paying job maybe do like>>3231says to make money the only thing that i need now is to find a way ti create something and sell it


>the only thing that i need now is to find a way ti create something and sell it

So, the entire business, then?

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I don't know if this is going to be a poor OP for a thread but I just became homeless and I really don't know what to do. I'm scared.
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I have a friend who pitched a tent in some deep woods for months when they were homeless. They just walked to town for groceries. It's workable, but turns out there are mountain lions so you don't want to go far from your tent. You also need to really know what you're doing to camp in the wild.

Building a house in the wild is technically possible but it could be discovered eventually. If you're in the US though and want to camp in the woods, look to the Bureau of Land Management's website for a map of areas falling under their jurisdiction. These areas, as I understand, are legal for anyone to camp in at any time as long as they don't build structures.

Really though do your research and do it well before going out deep. You should also do some test runs in less deep areas first to iron out any issues with your plans.

Also since OP has friends they should definitely try staying with friends before staying in the woods.


That's a false analogy. Tell me how many people you've seen going to jail for downloading a movie and how many went for taking over a place and making an illegal house on it.


Ask about it on lainchan, they've got some radical homeless people there.


Yes I've stayed with friends for the past few nights since I originally got kicked out of my place. My parents said I could come back but fuck that place. Right now I am talking to some people who are saying that they will bounce me around rooms at their college. There is also a wooded area nearby that I think I could feasibly sleep in need be, but I will have to check it out to make sure. The location is also PERFECT for finding work as it is literally right next door to a mall, and various other shopping plaza's.

My plan right now is to save up some money to get my own place, all the while looking for ways to make money online or through some sort of trade that would allow me to travel. Who knows if that will actually work though.


I dunno if there are in USA too, but i live in Italy and we have a bunch of left-wing movements that help homeless people (not bums, usually immigrees or "normal" people who lost work or are in a similar situation to yours) to occupy places in cities like unused officies or similar, you can ask them! Sometimes the owner manages to make the police to make occupants leave, but this doesn't happen so often. Living conditions are almost the same as owned house ones, and you can have electricity and water because activists knows how to stealthy interlace with state distibution system. I can confirm cause i have friends living in occupied places. You can occupy houses even without those organisation's help, i know people who did it, but it is more complex and you have to be more than a single person, obviously.

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