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(The old thread was unstickied because it got bogged down with dead links and is difficult to navigate.)

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Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues, and particularly help in escaping the NEET lifestyle, but this focus is not exclusive. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
* Intentionally breaking these rules or the global rules will still result in a warning or ban.
* Rule 6 is enforced more liberally on /hikki/. Users may be banned from /hikki/ for inflammatory remarks in cases which might not result in a ban on other boards.
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Why is life so hellish when you're not socially adjusted enough for the standards of others?
I'm constantly mistreated and looked down upon for even making the slightest signs of nervousness. It sucks.
Makes me want to halt all potential progress of becoming more in tone with society and revert back to my NEET lifestyle.
Because it's shelter from the hideous personalities the general population tends to have towards someone who comes off as distinct in whichever terms. I'm getting tremendously sick of it..only been a few months since I've stopped being a shut-in. But surrounding myself with this type of hostile environment every single day encourages me that this attempt to adjust is ultimately not worth it. I don't know what to do anymore.
The world is truly a cruel place. I'm not cut out for it.
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Justify what behavior?


What's even the point of using "armchair psychologist" as an insult when this is, in fact, a forum where non-psychiatrists share their advice? I find it highly moronic when people want the "real serious" advice a therapist can provide you and yet people don't go search it in the proper place.

Honestly, the whole chemical measurement is more inside the neuroscience field rather than psychology. Psychology is that sort of pseudo-science like sociology; it's only based on the popular opinion at the time. It's true that it actually tries to be a science because it tries to use the scientific method to explain human behavior, but it's also obvious that it can not predict efficiently what's exactly wrong with people other than through a cop-like game of "this is the culprit" (which inevitably will depend on how good is the therapist and how open the patient is to their problems, instead of actual or empirical data), nor it can hold a theory about human behavior long enough to establish why things happen the way the do.
Notice that I don't have anything against therapists or going to therapy (in fact, I believe that as humans we learn to recognize certain behavior patterns and thus we can, to a certain degree, classify mental illness), but if you want to tell me psychology is a science as solid as, say, physics, then no, sorry, it isn't.
Also I'm not the same anon.


>armchair psychologists
>backed by science


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>Actually really beleiveing you know better than science
Delusional and very sad.

>if you seek professional help i.e. psychology then I'd rather not
>professional help
>armchair psychologists
Stop insulting yourself


I know you're not the same anon. It's a bit unfair to lump psychology in with pseudo-science when stuff like the time cube and astrology are in the latter. While I don't think it is as, "solid", as physics(if you can measure that sort of thing), it is a real science because it can be tested and results are consistent between these tests. Experiments have been done on monkeys to see how they react to abuse and affection, and the results were predictable and seem consistent with some human behavior. That's just one of many examples.
An inflated ego, and low self-esteem, are a deadly combo.

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How would you recommend I start promoting myself so I can make money off selling custom art for people?


Open a tumblr, circlejerk with "artists", tell people you take commissions, post the best example art you have with it, share it absolutely everywhere, and hope for the best?


Depends what your art is like. Why don't you share a couple of pieces so we can tell you if your plan is realistic? I personally think that the 'requests' model is unlikely to make you any money, unless you're a hentai artist.

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hey guise
what's the longest period you've been without a bath?
I haven't showered in 5 days, my record is 2 weeks
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went 2 months before i developed bacteria layers on my skin that pretty much covered the entire area of my fuckin face

that shits for the birds dude take a damn bath


Seven days. It got to that wonderful point where one day, my hair had gotten so greasy that it actually got LESS greasy. Good times.


10 days is my longest record. But it's pretty common for me to go 4 days at a time. My hair is starting to get really long again so I'll probably start making sure to shower at least every other day. My dandruff has been getting out of control.


like 4 days
my hair gets so greasy i cant concentrate



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what do you do when you are depressed?

OP cries under the bed
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You sound psychotic and are moving the goalposts so I'm not going to repeat myself.

>This is the worst case of stawmanning I have ever seen. Tyrone isn't relevant. If you benefit from society, you should contribute to it.

Tyrone = society?
Contributing to society = contributing to Tyrone?
I owe this to society = I owe this to tyrone?

See the problem with that?
Or could it be that you decide who is and who isn't part of society and as so he should or shouldn't get "paid" back by contributing? This whole thing is lunatic.
Tyrone is part of society, if you want to be SPECIFIC, use SPECIFIC TERMS and stop saying SOCIETY. Because EVERYONE is SOCIETY.
>This is the worst case of stawmanning I have ever seen. Tyrone isn't relevant. If you benefit from society, you should contribute to it.
Which means shit, since it is not on the same level and VALUE. Giving out pennies and receiving dollar bills, what a joke. Thinking you are an upstanding member of society with your mcjob in the same level of a inventor whose deviced had a profound impact on people or saved millions of lives is literally INSANE and PSYCHOTIC. No, sorry but no, these examples are not even close, and saying that both "contribute to society" means shit.
>Society is not something that just exists naturally.
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Society is not literally everybody. Society is made of everybody's collective effort. Society itself is a state of existing in which human beings do not have to be hunters and gatherers. Being a parasite puts a strain on peoples ability to maintain this state. Either you put a strain on every tax payer, or you put a strain on somebody who does pull their own weight. I never said that everybody contributes equally. This is more strawmanning. You're just using mental gymnastics to justify being dead weight.
Somebody with a mcjob is at least capable of not harming society. They pay their dues for benefiting. I haven't moved any goal posts. Act normal in public, pay for your own stuff. Also, somebody who produces things people actually need is important. Another false analogy.
>What question and how am I suicidal? Are you OK mate?
Read your first post again.
>If someone asks me how are you, I don't even know what to say
>Then, it's like I can heard my soul screaming, screaming like someone who lost his mind, as if someone wanted to try to kill himself just by screaming. It's hard to describe, imagine someone trying to gouge out his eyes and screaming out of panic, out of terror, because the sudden realization of something that's worse than death hit him in a fraction of a second. Something like that.


Not him, but there's literally nothing wrong with being a sponge as long as you can get away with it.

OG NEET lyfe motherfucker


Part of the fault lies on the government and other enablers.


Nightwalks are maximum comfy desu
if we could actually get back on topic that'd be great

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Curious: Would you describe yourself as more of a NEET, Hikikomori, or a very reclusive Freeter?
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I leave the house around once a year for the last few years, before a few times per year. Usually it's just for dentist appointments or mandatory government paperwork shit that needs to get done if I want them to stop billing me for stupid shit.

So all in all I've left the house maybe 30 times in the last 6 years. It's entertaining coming to boards like this and seeing all the fresh out of highschool/college teenagers think they are lost cause losers because they spent a year moping around home the year after they left school.


What would you consider the point of no return in that kind of situation then?


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A Hikikomori i've never had a job in the outside world and every time i try to reintegrate back into society i fail i'm just not compatible with society nor do i agree with many of society's rules and expectations i haven't been to the doctor in 5 years and if i were to go back i would probably be diagnosed with avoidant personality disorder. i've been isolated since 2007 and i don't live in the real world i avoid life through escapism because of the shitty hand i was dealt growing up and like i said up top every time i try to reintegrate back into society i fail there is nothing for me in this world except escapism and living in my room until i die.


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Godspeed, I'm rooting for you.
Hopefully you'll be able to escape that vicious cycle.


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>Hopefully you'll be able to escape that vicious cycle.

Maybe someday but i don't see that happening any time soon.

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Do you have any unusual aspirations that you did not have outside of NEETdom?

I have been getting some very strange longings to become a street artist. I've even been creating stencils and posters that I will never put up. I guess the optimistic viewpoint is that I've been released from wage slavery and now want to do something real and exciting with my life, but its never going to happen anyway because I'm too scared of the police so I mostly just sleep and kill myself.

I also want to wear a cloak and sword and go on a Hobbit style adventure, but…
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That protip is pretty obvious enough. You didn't really need to say it.


being a NEET often results in nothingness, hence the desire for accomplishment
I find the lack of finances it brings is more detrimental than the lack of time brought about by wageslaving
I myself always moved between small different goals like the ones being posted ITT, but I think that accomplishment wouldn't necessarily solve my problems
I'm not really sure what compelled me to write this post but if I spent the time writing it I'd rather not go ahead and just delete it and close the thread as I often do desu


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I have a strong desire to destroy society and in the chaos a new world will be born of my choosing. I know it will never happen but I get sad that it won't happen can't shake it.


Many. I've really wanted to just sit down and learn how to make a video game. It would be shit, but I really want to learn how. I've also been really interested in writing a novel- I never was into it until I started reading more as a hikki. Finally, I'd really like to be an outdoor NEET. I want to move to Alaska, have internet access, but live off of the land and off of the grid. Not having to work, because I make everything I use. Wind/solar power, my own private small airplane, an enough guns and ammunition to last a lifetime, which I'll spend in my cabin away from people watching anime and hunting.


The fukken DREAM mayn. Godspeed.

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so a little background info

abandoned at 12, picked up by CPS - ran away from group home at 16, never finished high-school, have a criminal record so can't get a job with SSN - tried immigrant labor, the pay was awful and the language barrier even stronger

decent computer literacy, and can sound ok on the phone. can't sell drugs anymore, almost murdered last time

any ideas on what to do for online employment?

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thank you for your clarification. It seems to be a scam site indeed.


You could try getting your life together by getting an education.


That costs money. A lot of money.


if this cashlords thing is a scam then how about running your own scam? I mean you could set up your scam to target people from rich countries while you live in a poor country that does not give a shit about small fish like you. There is an entire scamming industry in nigeria and india. If you scam some american out of 200$ nobody will try to prosecute you for it or extradict you to usa.


Sei, people are literally suggesting illegal advice. Lock this thread.

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I lurked and posted here on Uboachan once, but on the occult board. Well, I had shared my story on how the house I used to live in had an alleged haunting, but one anon suggested I'd been hallucinating the incidents since I mentioned even if I moved, it wouldn't stop.
It still hasn't, actually.
It actually has only gotten worse.
Being alone in a house, working the whole day and staying inside the house at night alone means it's usually quiet here. Last week, I've noticed whispers and knocking at my windows although I'm on the second floor in my apartment, and lately horrifying images start popping up in my peripheral vision. They're freaking the fuck outta me. It once yelled at me when I tried looking out the window.
A therapist session would mean grocery, rent and bills would kick my ass.
Family out of state, trip would last an entire day so that's outta the question. I also have to mention that they think mental illness is fake.
Fucking great, ain't it?
I had to post here, cause shit at least you people give sound advice.
Please give some advice, this is eating me alive and I feel like my sanity's fucking slipping.
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extended family? Well, there was drama about money and inheritance. We got the shortest stick as well.
I guess you're right. I'll look into doctors around here that are certified and have a good rep.
Thanks for the perspective!

I sleep for a good 9 hours, but maybe I can go to bed earlier. The internet can wait.


Glad to help. Despite drama, you shouldn't rule out extended family if it comes to that. Think about if you were the one being asked for help. Would you refuse?



No, of course not. I wouldn't refuse.
I'll try calling them tomorrow, it's late over here.
again, thanks. :)


If you're sleeping 9 hours a day then sleep deprivation is definitely not the reason.


Wouldn't it still be possible depending on whenever OP is sleeping well/properly or not?

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