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 No.172[Reply]

From now on, the >>>/rec/ board should generally be used for conversations about recovery from NEETism. This is not a hard rule but you are likely to have a better experience.

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
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 No.5407[Reply]

Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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 No.6222

Any time I find a new content creator on Youtube that I like, I pretty obsessively read their old posts to get more of an insight into their lives. Especially if there's any insinuation/change that they might be gay. Finding "proof" of their sexuality is a huge payoff for me.

I've also combed through the entire social media history of my significant other and kept all the photos that I considered worth keeping. There's something very addicting about knowing everything public about a person, almost like consuming all the works of an artist.

 No.6232

this is normal, just be careful and don't date them. they're usually jerks.

 No.6286

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>>5407
i know exactly that feeling. as i learn more about the person i am stalking the more plasure(dopamin hit, like eating sugar) i get, then after a while it becomes boring and i change person. probebly because i have no internet or irl friends

 No.6414

>>5407 yes i have felt that. I used frequent a bunch of art communities, and i found this one israelite girl who seemed to have The 'Tism. Her art and english were very bad but there was such a 'nice person' aura to her and i often thought about me messaging her privately and then becoming friends. I used to check on her a lot and her art had improved, i felt really happy, it was like seeing a baby's first steps or something, but eventually got bored and forgot her usernames.

On the becoming a creep thing, i think you shouldn't worry too much, the outcome depends in wether you actually interact or not and, if you do the former, the way you do it. Most people detect creeps easily so if you make them uncomfortable they will most likely stop interacting.

Judging by the replies this seems to be fairly common… wonder what this phenomenon means

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>>6414
you're such a pos



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 No.6390[Reply]

I think about it a lot. Normies look for help when they have mild anxiety/perceived worries and whatever they have is very easy to treat because their worries are baseless and the solution is usually "be positive and stop overthinking uwu". And then you have people like me, whose insecurities and reasons to worry are rooted in reality and confirmed every fucking day by other people. How are these people dealt with? "Be humble and accept that you're doomed to be a worthless retard"? No idea, I've sworn off seeking help but I'm beyond repair, I should be put down.
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 No.6401

>>6395
Bad comparison. There is not a (big) stigma against physical health, you can have no arms and legs and doctors will still treat you respectfully. The only exception is terminal illness but even then, patients are treated with pity not disdain or disgust.
I've seen people on the internet complain about how fucked up they supposedly are, but they have careers and friends and know that even if their illness tells them they're losers it's not true. I'm talking about people who are diagnosed, maybe take meds, but are high functioning. You may not think they're normies and they don't consider themselves normies, but they are. Many normies are secretly fucked up anyway, it doesn't suddenly make them not normies if they are still well-adjusted and successful.

 No.6402

>>6401
Therapists treat you with disgust? Are you speaking from experience?

 No.6403

>>6390
No not my experience. Just common sense and what I know from other people.

 No.6404

>>6403
I'm interested what you've heard from other people, but common sense? Really? Your common sense tells you that people who have trained for years to understand and help mentally ill people would find more severe cases disgusting? I do know what you mean, but common sense/instinct is often a very bad way to decide what's true (especially depending on any mental illness you have). What common sense says is true is very different between people, e.g. to me it used to be immediately obvious that if I killed myself I would just leave my body and fly away, that was common sense to me then but it's not anymore. You should only use it as a starting point to guide your research into something.

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 No.6411[Reply]

Have any of you ever thought that you were born to be a reclusive, socially inept hikki? I know I was, given my circumstances and mental health. The universe placed us within our own trapped minds and didn't spare a wink.

But hey, at least it's peaceful living like this.

 No.6412

It's hard for me to imagine I could've turned out any other way.

I don't feel peaceful though. I feel awful.



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 No.5654[Reply]

Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?
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 No.6374

Anyone actually have anything of Hikki-chan from this decade?

 No.6405

who is that cutie, OP??

 No.6408

>>6405
>who is that
Imagine being this much of a newfag </3

 No.6409

>>6408
okay. but answer the question.

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 No.6378[Reply]

They have no idea how lucky they are to have a job. I've been a hikki since 2013 (I'm 27 now) and it seems there's no way of getting out. I fully believe I will expire as a homeless dude without a penny to my name. What a life.
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 No.6383

>>6382
get help anon, normies might be bottom tier but it's not really their fault.

 No.6385

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Yea kinda but I can also see where they are coming from. Like if I were normal and stuff I wouldnt mind having a job. I just have no idea how I would be able to have one with my mental issues.

 No.6391

>>6385
Same, I think that's true for many of us.

 No.6394

When I am a neet, then after a few months I start to wish for a job.
When I have a job, then after a few months I start to wish to be a neet again.
Both has it's downsides and upsides, everytime I experience the downside from on thing I want the upside from the other back.

 No.6407

I worked in the past many years before being a hikki and it had its upsides I think it is important for people to work if they do not have any other goals in life it is artifical though and to devote yourself to working as a life goal is stupid but if you can honesty be happy to be a cog in the machine consuming and producing value then you really are lucky.

I get retardbux now and ony really spend my money on drugs.
I do not get annoyed when normies complain about working I get more annoyed when they try to tell people they need to work and I agree people need to work as a general rule but you hear young people berated for being a NEET more than for being lifeless droids that have no goal other than hedonism.

Us hikikomori are really just fucked if we have no goals it is all fucked I do not think we shoud look beyond the curtain if you can be normalscum go for it you are lucky not because you can get things that some of us desire but that you can desire at all.

I have had it all it is all shit I am just too afraid to kill myself at the moment because my drug use convinced me we do not die after death.



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 No.5955[Reply]

I wanna know if anyone here has completely given up on finding a partner. I feel like maybe accepting the forever alone lifestyle could bring some comfort and maybe happiness into my life. Maybe im too weird and fucked up, and giving up hope is the right thing to do. Thoughts?
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 No.6366

The fact that I'm yet to experience love is really eating me up now. I don't know how much longer I can go on living like this. Entire days are being lost to these feelings.

 No.6367

>>6057
>Man, physical contact (and I don't mean sex) with someone you love with passion must feel heavenly.

>>6366
>The fact that I'm yet to experience love

Just because I watched it recently, Darling in the Franxx does a pretty good job at illustrating the difference between physical contact with someone where there is no chemistry, versus with someone where there is. Not going to lie, it's a phenomenal and soul-fulfilling thing. When you're trying to force yourself to get physical with someone you don't care for, though? It feels like your soul is screaming at you, and its lungs don't run out of breath, so no matter how bad you might feel not having felt the former, take solace that at least you're not trying to force yourself into the latter, like I had tried after many years. It just makes things even worse. I wish I'd been a wizard at this point, rather than having had the rug pulled out from underneath me by the woman I loved before…

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It dawned on me that my life is so fundamentally different from that of the average human's and that really upset me for reasons I don't really understand. I think about it most evenings now and it's become very hard to sleep at night or get out of bed in the morning.
I read an article about how people were ignoring lockdowns to have sex, and it just hit me in a way I wasn't expecting.
Sex is a thing normal people have, and they have a lot of it. Intimate relationships are a thing normal people have. And that made me feel awful.
Most people have, at the very least, had a hug from a girl before they turned 23. Not me. I have missed out on one of the most basic experiences a human can have, it's only going to get more difficult to have it as time goes on, and being a NEET only going to make that more difficult. Someone suggested that I have sex with a female friend. I have never had a female friend.
I do not know how much longer I can put up with living like this. I have been miserable for the last quarter of my life, but never like this.

 No.6393

>>6389
sex won't make you happy
when people think it does, it's because they're so miserable that even that is better than nothing

 No.6406

>>6389
Sex doesn't matter to me anymore because I have hands. Still, having no emotional connection does make me suffer like nothing else. The lack of physical contact does hurt as well, but not being loved is the worst. I never had any female friends either, and never even met a female that I ever wanted to befriend anyway. Hope I can solve this sooner than later, but now my life is just a bunch of waiting and nothing else. I want to end my isolation but the world is getting in the way. It's almost like it knows.



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 No.5694[Reply]

I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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>>5694
I'm a female, no one ever gave me money for it, how do I even get the money just for being a girl? Is that even a real thing?

 No.6387

>>6386
As they said, use your imagination. There's innumerable ways to take advantage of degenerates on the internet for their money.

 No.6388

>>6386
You can sell used panties and bras.

 No.6396

I'd just like to add onto the drawing part, if you don't like outright shilling yourself constantly on social media and have a Pixiv account you can open requests which is kind of like a really casual commissions system. It's passive enough if you already upload normal art on a consistent basis, so people will take notice if they browse through your profile and like what they see.

>>6386
Please don't degrade yourself just to make some money, it'll only lead to trouble down the line. There's a huge issue with younger women going into "sex work" and then being unable to lead normal lives due to their information + tits literally out in the open, not to mention the harassment etc. It's really not worth the trouble. Drawing shitty furry scat is more tolerable than that.

 No.6399

>>6386
Well you have to be hot.



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 No.6191[Reply]

>basically didn't leave my home during middle-school because bullying, depressed

>2~3 year of highschool were the best, actually made some friends and hang out with them


>got into college, was so motivated and happy

>my high school friends stop talking to me

>some only talk to me when they want something and when I try to talk to them they ignore me, so I don't know if they are my friends anymore


>start becoming lonely and depressed


>doesn't even have friends on the internet


>doing well in college but at the expense of my sanity


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>>6365
Not them, but I don't know where to look. I used to post my drawings on tumblr while it was alive, and surprisingly made some decent connections. It sounds silly, but I can't remember how. Time went on, and all those connections are gone now anyway. These days I only have a modest twitter, since I don't like having social media in the first place. Some neat artists follow me, but I have 0 idea how to initiate. I don't like the idea of just DM'ing and saying "Hi, what's up". Maybe we don't even have good chemistry. I don't like the idea of finding people on discord either. It's got a lot of people that aren't my type. All I can find online are either embarrassing meme lgbt weebs, or hans get ze flammenwerfer guys. Anyone exempt who did seem alright, we're really silent, and communication died pretty quick. I hate being the one that has to keep prodding for conversation.

I don't know where I fit in, I don't know where to look. A while back I was even desperate enough to try tossing my hat in /soc/. Besides some people back from highschool, uboachan is the closest I've felt to fitting in before.

 No.6372

>>6369
Same. Only that I don't have people irl.

 No.6373

>>6369
That's pretty much how I feel. In a way, the internet is even worse than real life. I can think of things I could do in real life. Going to the right places would probably work, and allow coincidences to happen. On the internet, I have to be active, but how and where? Even if I go to a place full of people, the fact that it's online doesn't make me suddenly like interacting with groups of people. It's terrible.

 No.6376

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Finding similar interests seems to be the key. Discord is weird in that you can join a server for pretty much any anime or gacha game from the last 6 years, and instantly join an autistic 24/7 conversation about say, shipgirls, since that's the channel's only topic. But those people rarely become your friends. The best luck I've had with making friends is finding people with the same sexual preferences and fetishes. It's kind of sad. The men I connect with the most are the ones where we can share pictures and circlejerk together. Outside of them, I'm always the one to initiate. I used to be a coomer who regularly fapped twice/day. I've since cut it down to once every other day, but it seems it hasn't changed me mentally beyond regaining self-control. I can actually spend entire days focusing on my real hobbies without a sexual thought, but they're all solitary. Like I said before, similar interests help but it's not healthy if those interests just make you and your friends enable eachother endlessly. Pic related - I've formed some deep friendships around this fetish.

 No.6377

>>6376
Of course, common interests are a necessity. But I wonder why sexual interests would work better. Seems very strange to me to form connections through that, with people that I'm not even sexually interest in. Not sure if I could do it myself.



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 No.6375[Reply]

I am hikikomori and I used to get upset about it but then I tried to overcome agoraphobia and social anxiety only to discover I prefer being by myself.
There is nothing out there for me so I sit inside and listen to music and I feel very tranquil yet suicidal at the same time I think it is peak apathy. I have given up on myself and that is honestly ok with me I see life differently now and am gla I spent near a decade as a hikikoori.
I have had a lot of time to investigate thoughts and the world from reading and experience but have come to understand that there is no understanding and trying to do so will only lead you to the abyss.
Reason leads to pessimism and bleak existential despair because we are human and cannot cognize beyond what we can observe without building on top of many abstractions.
I might die or I might not and none of that matters unless I think it does but I did want to make this post to try encourage some other hikki not to improve as such but really think about everything.
If you do not desire a normalfag life why bother trying to gain one and if you do ask yourself why.
I took a knife to my watch and cut a sliver off as I hope that it may help someone else.
It can always get worse in life that is a certainty but also as the Buddhists say our desires bring us pain however we need to juggle well and not go to any extreme with ascetism and just throw our hands up whilst experiencing the wind brushing against our face and accept it as it is without any other added abstractions.
Mindfulness is important a lot of us we think far too much it causes much of our social anxiety also and it is not bad to think a lot but we have to realize our cognatize skills have become over extended and are useless do you understand what I mean? do you understand what I mean when I say that empiricism can never explain anything beyond an observation of what appears to be and a philosopher can never explain anything beyond a structure built from abstractions which are untestable?
We cannot know and the more you know the more you know that a universal theory or answer to life is out of our hands for it requires understanding every single moving part that exists and we will never know because we are limited that is a theme repeated throughout life.
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>do you understand what I mean?
Anon… I have to tell you, your post is to deep for my anus



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