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Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues, and particularly help in escaping the NEET lifestyle, but this focus is not exclusive. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
* Intentionally breaking these rules or the global rules will still result in a warning or ban.
* Rule 6 is enforced more liberally on /hikki/. Users may be banned from /hikki/ for inflammatory remarks in cases which might not result in a ban on other boards.
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Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?
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Fucking this.


Attention. They're craving for attention, and they try to appeal others by doing this.


Agreed. Some Hikki bloggers make content with creative tools or do cooking videos, but just filming yourself rambling on about your ebil parents or discord clique drama is a total tube clogger



This is his only good video.


Just walking around a domestic abuse shelter rambling about his ex with some cool cinematography and emotional rants to boot. /feels/


fuck off u/Mario_Zimbabwe

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i hope this is ok, to rant here. i rarely make threads but i don't know. it's hard right now, so i am sorry. but damn.

i want a friend.

i want to know what it's like to be with someone that doesn't pity you; hasn't been stuck with you by order of a higher power; that's not in your family, and obligated by blood to make a weekly phone call; someone that genuinely wants to be around you. going out to eat, going to the movies, playing video games together, talking about your feelings, rabb.iting (?), sharing your writing, roleplaying, playing d&d. tagging each other in memes over twitter. i want someone to be with.

but i know i don't deserve it. i'm lazy. i'm rude to people on the internet just to make myself feel better. my breath stinks all the time, even though i brush and floss. i'm weak and ugly and stupid. i have disgusting fetishes. i'm boring, i know, i've never been able to hold a conversation. didn't even get bullied in high-school by the bullies because they know i wasn't meant for much but the part of shadow.

i'm sick of myself; i've been sick of myself since middle school. but i'm too cowardly to suicide, and i keep thinking things will get better.

and perhaps they will.

but i can't see myself making a friend the way i am. and no, this isn't me scouting for friends. this is just me unloading all my bullshit on a bunch of anonymous people that're probably going through the same thing, or worse.

i don't know. i want a friend to hold me and tell it's ok. but i'd be disgusted by anyone that wanted to get close to me.
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t. 14 year old



I wish I was. But doesn't really matter, does it?

OP is desperate to make friends. In this state, OP will most likely attract only the shittiest kind of people, and end up even more hurt.

But, of course, one is not obliged to listen to such a negative person as myself…


I have started to feel the same for a while now. Having a couple or so family members to hang out with alleviates the feeling somewhat, but when I see people talking about hanging out with IRL friends, hearing about someone playing video games with online friends, whenever I have an ache to talk to another person about a particular interest or, as you said, seeing people tagging one another in memes over Twitter, it can be fairly crushing. I haven't got a clue as to how anyone even forms a connection in an online community. I've tried a few times, but nothing comes from it. Nothing like those stories you hear about how someone played World of Warcraft one day and started teaming up with some random who eventually goes on to become a long-time friend or even a spouse.

But I, too, know that I don't deserve it. I make no efforts to make a friend, online or offline. I am lazy and socially anxious, meaning I can never keep up the act of being a friend. I have no job and therefore no income to help fund a hobby that'll let me get anywhere close to an existing social circle. As for conversations, I have little to say because I have few experiences or I have nothing of interest or worth to contribute. The best friendships I've had were in dreams, and even those are rare.

I'm close to giving up, resigned to a life alone by my own doing and I know it'll be all my fault.


i've stopped talking to all my friends (it's been more than 3-4 years) all thanks to my mental illness and no one, not even a single one of them, reached out to me and asked me if i'm ok.

maybe i was with the wrong people at the wrong time, but it still hurts so much and i believe that being alone will always be way better than befriending scummy people who will only exploit you for their personal needs and wants.

but all of that still makes me wish the same thing as you do OP. i just want a friend who'll understand me.


I feel you.
Whenever i'm in class or any sort of social situation, it feels like i'm missing something, a fundamental quality of a person that allows them to socialize, connect to others and make friends, that even the dumbest guy has.
I feel deeply inept, inadequate for not having it, as if i was born with a disability that put me a level below everyone else.
It feels unfair, why did -i- have to be the weirdo, why couldn't i be like everyone else, connecting, having fun and loving, all thanks to being born with the basic ability of talking to other people properly.
This year i've tried, i read a book about it, i went to parties, i tried starting conversations with my classmates, i joined a discord server. All met with failure.
The worst part is that i had a friend once, we played together since kindergarden, we had common interest, we went to each other's house every week to talk and play videogames but he naturally grew uninterest in continuing the friendship. He just started interacting less and less with me over time, until all my messages where either not answered at all or met with dry responses.
What an asshole, if you don't want to be friends with someone just fucking say it, you coward.
It felt pathetic, so i stopped interacting with him too.
Jesus, we were typical childhood friends, am i such boring and shitty person that even he forgot that i exist, someone who's been in his life since we were 4? Am i that bad at making connections that i failed in making a long lasting one after so many years?
I really wish i had never met him, it's very cruel to let someome taste something good for once and then taking it away forever, just so they know what it feels like, just so they yearn for it that much harder.
Maybe that's just me, maybe i was truly born like this, maybe i really was born without legs, but i'm probably just trying to justify my own worthlessness.

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what do you do when you are depressed?

OP cries under the bed
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cute Haibane


but all of those things are fucking awesome anon, those are the things that make life worth living, the things that make it so great to be a NEET


this was my fucking jam when i was akid



i sit and stare at my steam library looking for a game to distract myself with until im tired enough to go to bed
then i sit and play on my phone for a few hours instead of trying to sleep


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I met my girlfriend around 3 months ago, and I had the best time of my life by far with her. I never expected I could love someone as much as I love her, it's crazy when I think about it, it's like I found a completely hidden part of 'life'.

Recently things are quite hard for us, she's facing a ton of life-changing problems/situations, and even trying my best to support her, it feels like I either make no impact at all or make things worse and just become another burden for her. This feeling is truly crushing, she says she always tells me what she needs, and when I do it, it's like I either did it wrong, or completely missed the point and did the opposite. I'm as inexperienced as they come, and this is my first relationship, but I'm completely torn if I'm just some absolutely smooth-brained retard or people become a million times more complicated to deal with when they are facing some serious problems. It really breaks me.

It gets me seriously depressed when I feel like I screwed up something or when I didn't do the right thing at the time, even when trying my absolute hardest and already having something similar happening in the past wich I could learn from, but having my choice still being the worst possible.

Second time ever and first time in over 5 years I've seriously considered suicide, I can't sleep more than 4 hours at night no matter what method I try, and university stuff just makes things harder.

Given most of this negativity is related to our relationship, I try to talk things out with her as much as possible so I can stop screwing up and help her, wich makes me feel great when I manage.

When talking is not an option, I just feel like doing absolutely nothing. I lay on bed looking at the ceiling, try to sleep, turn on the pc and then off after 15 minutes or so because I can't force myself to do anything at all, can't play, can't watch anime, can't read manga, can't study or do projects, can't eat…

When the depression is lower like now, I can do more of this stuff, so now I'm venting on ubuu while listening to Starset, waiting the time to pass so I can go to class and just accept the day as over.

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today was my birthday, all i expected was a "happy birthday" and a hug from the ppl i like (mostly a girl i think is kinda cute), but i've hardly recived it.
please anons, give me happy birthdays and virtual hugs so i can fell a bit better this day
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Glad you asked, happy birthday, Anon!


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Happy birthday anon!


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Happy Birthday! May things start looking up in your life.


Happy birthday, Anon!


happy day, anon

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How good/poor is your hygiene?
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Exceellent, I shower regularly and take very good care of my hygiene in general. Already got way too much shit going on, can't really afford bad habits to become a problem too.




i can't remember the last time i showered or cleaned my teeth, but it doesn't matter because i literally never leave the house except to get fast food


i shave my head and face completely bald, because for me it's a reminder of how free i am, when i lived with my horrible cunt parents i was forced to grow a neckbeard to hide my double chin, because my mum said she'd kick me out if i got fat, so i also had to always get dressed every time i left my room to hide my fat, but now that i'm alone i walk around naked with no facial hair at all to proudly show off my big fat gut and double chin to the world


I brush my teeth on average twice a day, shower anywhere from everyday if it's a good week to waiting 1-3 days in between showering. I also usually will put on deodorant right after drying off from taking a shower, cleaning out my ears as well, and I might brush my hair or not depending on how I feel. I'd say my hygiene isn't great but I'm sure there's others who's in far worse shape than I am.

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What are some personal goals a hikki can have? What are some tangible goals one can have?


Mastery of an art? Take the artform or medium you're most interested in and strive to match the skill of the artists who's work you enjoy, and when you have, strive to improve upon it. Make it a goal to become one of the creators that have entertained you throughout hikkidom so you can pick up the torch and use your skills to entertain the next generation of hikki


I don't know attempt to do something productive around the house, change your diet, and lessen the depression that has a hold on you little by little one day at a time?

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post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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Rest is important


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holy shit what a difference 6 months and good medication makes, im taking abilify which is spooky as fuck anti-psychotic medication but im microdosing it like people do with mushrooms/acid and stuff like that

oh im still NEET living off my dad's money but im planning on going back to school next year since ireland has programs for people who fucked up earlier in life, mature student path its called

there's always hope frens


You can do it


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I have intestinal issues, whenever I eat I have to lie down because of the pain. Great thing to have in addition to depression.


I'm starting to have issues with high iron, high cholesterol, high sugar, chest pains, breathing problems, fatigue, and insomnia. It doesn't help that I have plenty of mental problems. I've tried to go to a therapist before but I always freak out and can't handle it. I wouldn't go out of the house even to a doctor's appointment until recently which is literally the only place I go when I leave the house. It's been this way for about two years now. I've been trying to eat better in terms of my diet. I cut soda, have been eating more fruits as well as vegetables, and decreased eating red meat. I've been having a problem drinking more coffee now though in place of not drinking soda though. But I've had insomnia problems LONG before I even touched a cup of coffee. Ironically sometimes after drinking a cup of coffee and having a long piss session afterwards it'll put me right to sleep. Funny how coffee puts me to sleep sometimes and melatonin keeps me up for days.

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I was thinking about Youtubers, Twitch streamers and people who get paid for basically being on the internet and doing something that a monkey could.
These people could easily qualify as NEET, right? They spend up to 8 hours or more a day playing videogames or vlogging or something and most of their income comes from their fans.
Yet nobody really bats an eye at them other than the occasional angry dude that gets way too bent out of shape over people getting money from fans rather than employers. But with NEETs there's a higher level of stigma, telling them they're parasites and that they need to work on themselves and conform. Is the difference really as subtle as simply getting money? Or providing a service, even if it has little to no effect on society and the person's community?
What makes the difference in the way a NEET and someone who turns their hobby and cult of personality into a "job"?
Also have any NEETs here attempted this? Would you?
Is it viable? etc etc
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And yes, I'm a retard as well for not knowing how to format quoted messages.


We live in weird times.


There are only two steps to becoming socially likeable.
1. Provide others with enjoyable and amusing reactions, making them feel as if their presence is enjoyed.
2. Never talk about yourself, ask lots of amusing questions, if asked provide very little and then spin the question their way.


>Never talk about yourself, ask lots of amusing questions, if asked provide very little and then spin the question their way.
I fucking wish it actually worked that way.


because a NEET is too afraid to show their face or voice on the internet

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i've never really been accustomed to normal conversation, and i suppose that's why what happened today happened. i was talking to one of my few friends and she sent me a website saying that it was her least favorite site. it was this page where AI makes images of people who don't actually exist, and i asked why didn't she like it, and she began to rant about how i always ask such questions, meaningless inquiries that add nothing to conversation, and i just felt like shit… she told me to stop acting like i didn't understand anything because she "knows i do." i didn't understand why she would hate that website, that's why i asked her. now we're at odds. it'll resolve soon, i'm sure, but i just feel like i did something wrong. i've always done this, and people always seem to get weary, even though i'm asking genuine questions. i feel like i'm trying to be kept down, but i don't want to be.

i just wanted to ask a question.
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disregard this weird incel drivel, not even sure how to address any of this rambling nonsense

the real answer is that the implications of deep learning and general AI are deeply uncomfortable and perceived as existential threats to a lot of people, your friend was looking to be reassured and hoping you would mirror her reaction, that didn't happen which made her feel insecure in her fear and vulnerable for having shared it with someone who doesn't feel the same way and as a result she lashed out which isn't a reasonable response but people are an unreasonable lot


First you start throwing this "incel" crap for a post that has nothing to do with sexuality/romantic relationships, then in the end, you come to pretty much the same conclusion as the aforementioned post…


you are deeply disturbed w



Could be. To me, the story goes as follows:

-OP has a conversation with their "friend"

-Said friend brings up a ceratin (otherwise tame and non-controversial) website, expressing her dislike for it

-OP has a different opinion, so asks her to elaborate

-"Friend" gets triggered and insults OP

Unless you are white knighting because the "friend" in quesstion happens to be female, or you have been succesfully gaslighted for years, it should be clear that for this "friend", OP was never a real friend. They were merely a utility of reassurance and emotional comfort to her. OP made the unthinkable mistake of having (and expressing) a different opinion, so they had to be taught a lesson.

If you think that this was all OP's fault, and it is perfectly fine to throw a fit and insult a supposed friend over an AI, then I don't know what to say.


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