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 No.172[Reply]

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues, and particularly help in escaping the NEET lifestyle, but this focus is not exclusive. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
* Intentionally breaking these rules or the global rules will still result in a warning or ban.
* Rule 6 is enforced more liberally on /hikki/. Users may be banned from /hikki/ for inflammatory remarks in cases which might not result in a ban on other boards.
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 No.19[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

hi /n/, im curious about the NEETdom and wondering if you could answer some questions?

how long have you been a NEET?
was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
what do you do all day?
what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
how often do you get outside, if at all?
do you live independently or with parents?
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 No.5691

>>5690

Fuck, well ignore the "without a job" part unless like me you don't really consider that a "job."

 No.5737

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>how long have you been a NEET?
A total of four and a half years, off and on. I now have a job after 4 months of unemployment.
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
Bullying and abandonment in grade school sealed the deal for my depression.
>what do you do all day?
When I'm NEET I mindlessly browse the web, tinker with my computer, or play whatever game I'm feeling at the moment.
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
I have a few online friends who were also NEETs for a long time. One of them I met in highschool, the other two I've since met IRL. Actually ended up living with one of those two which got me out of my dad's place, and I still keep close communication with my other bud, despite our friend group online dismantling. Made some normie friends that were girls recently, but that ended when I got too drunk with one and groped her.
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
Before I moved out, almost never. Didn't really have a clue what the world and people were about, besides from what I saw inside my hometown or on my computer screen. Now that I've moved out I go outside to work, skate, eat, or drink. That's about it.
>do you live independently or with parents?
I moved out of my dad's place when I was 19.

 No.5739

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>>5690
I do live alone on disability bux. Almost everything gets delivered and magically materializes at my doorstep.
The system works but isn't very stable… or enjoyable.

 No.5744

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>how long have you been a NEET?
entering my 3rd year
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
being maniaco-depressive. but what marked my entry in NEETdom was a bad case of social phobia, basically unable to go out without ending up choking and almost fainting. i overcame it enventually and now im looking to get back into education and work
>what do you do all day?
look for a job (lol); play games watch films, make art (i studied art before being a NEET), browse on twitter(super time consuming)
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
family and internet friends. sometimes my longtime friend from middle school
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
once every two weeks.. my record so far is 4 monts
>do you live independently or with parents?
was independent the 1st year and now i live with my mother&siblings. shes veeery hard to live with though, so i want to move out asap even if i prefer living with others

 No.5745

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>how long have you been a NEET?
Six years, currently trying to get out of it by working online.
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
I intensely prefer my room over the outside. I intensely prefer being alone rather than around people.
>what do you do all day?
Jump from personal project from personal project while believing each time "is the one thing I'll stick to and see it through the end", while watching youtube, playing games or just doing nothing at all.
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
Imageboards online, parents offline.
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
Once a month give it or take.
>do you live independently or with parents?
With parents.



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 No.2367[Reply]

What are your MBTI types, /hikki/ ?

I recommend taking a few different tests and understanding what each letter means. I'm also guessing that most people here are INxx

Some people discredit MBTI, but I think if you treat it a a rough guideline, it can offer some good insights to yourself and others.

INTP wasted-potential masterrace reporting in
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 No.5647

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>>4416
>they never even came close to what this medium can acheive
Your entire post reeks off weird misconceptions and filling in misunderstandings with an expectation of violence and intuitiveness, which is a very abstract term for what you find vital in the concerts. You may call it situationist if you prefer the anarchist term.
You would be better off reading late Joyce if you wish for what the medium has to offer, or look at Bataille and his terrible stories.Even better: De Sade and Burroughs. I love Uncle Bill

Still, even if you did reading on them, even if you found benefit in studying them, you're still trying to turn stone into Coca Cola.
Literature, like architecture, is firm. It stays in its place and is dead and unchanging. Build to last. It's impossible to capture "The Human Experience" on paper out of the simple fact that we decay and prose doesn't. It's static. Unchanging unless you change it

Unlike music and your praised live performances. They are inherently unself aware since awareness would only lead to the recognition that they've passed and are closer to the end. Living is like listening to music in this sense and more appropiate for whatever message you care to pass along.

Best regards,
INTJ on cough syrup. I've been sick for three weeks

 No.5657

ISTP/taurine for your data mining. Any good literature on edge cases wrt how the function stack works for them? I've been reading many blogs but nobody talks about where nuance creps in and it's driving me crazy how people seem to tend to making themselves into extremes in mbti forums and blogs.

 No.5659

infp-t, infps should just get aborted, its not worth the mental health strain, fuck existence, fuck emotions

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 No.5743

mbti is not real



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 No.5730[Reply]

how can I not feel paranoid around others? I know very well how humans behave in a group. I know they hate virgins, failures, social inept people like me. I know they despise them, they are disgusted by them, they see them as useless and misfits, like dogs to kick or clowns to laugh at

I am not interested in learning trades or doing manual things. they are 100 times more digestible than doing office work but I am not passionate about em. I just want to learn them because they're not entirely boring and they make me feel useful.

I like art. acting, fooling around. music, maybe. not so much. singing serms better than learning an instrument, and dancing is rad

I'm no longer interested in fitness. martial arts are entertaining but I am too old to compete. they are a means to channel my frustration and my anger. fitness and combat sports give me a feeling of confidence and security. it doesn't matter that I lack character, that I feel vulnerable or useless, I rely on the excuse that I least I can fight. they don't make me strong, actually strong. I don't care about gaining strength or being a better fighter anymore. they don't work the way I want them to and change nothing. total waste of time

I resent everything and everyone. I hate that they know how to socialize better than me. I hate their confidence. I hate that they can belong so easily. I hate that they have more guts than me. I hate being a coward, a weakling, a fag. I hate being hated. I hate feeling threatened

hate and fear make me feel lonely, very lonely. I don't have to talk to others: they are wolves in sheepskin that at the first opportunity they have they are going to use my weaknesses against me and belittle me
It's not that I don't think they understand me, I'm not that hard to understand. I just don't think they're going to empathize at all

I wonder how I look from others' perspective

 No.5731

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I don't know if this is what you meant, but if you expect to be passionate about your job or make money doing something fun, you're sorely mistaken. If you really do want to have a job, the best you can hope for is something that isn't TOO horrific to spend 40 or more hours a week on. Should people have to spend their lives doing shit they hate just to eat and sleep? Well, I don't think so but if you're serious about working, that's the way it is. As for other people, I never really trusted anyone in the first place so I can't say I know what it means to not be paranoid. I know how people think about me, my own grandma makes snide remarks when she sees me. Interestingly, she's paying thousands to bail out and defend my sister who committed grand felony, who does not have a job at all. But, she went to college and I never took school seriously, so I guess she expects more from her in the long run. I just wish she would shut the fuck up when I've actually worked in the last year, albeit a part time job. Look, if you really want my opinion, you'll never catch me endorsing work or education. It sucks ass, that's all I can really say.

 No.5732

>>5730
you have to focus on what you have in common with other people, rather than what sets you apart. you have a lot more in common than you think. once you really get along with someone, they're not gonna care that you're a virgin or a 'failure.' other people are the only way you can crawl out of the hole you feel like you're in. i've been there, too.
>>5731
the disconnect over the value of schooling between generations is amazing. general wisdom is great from old people, but any advise regarding your present, let alone your future, should be taken with a grain of salt.

 No.5742

OP, I feel the same way as you do, the constant feeling people want to do something bad to me is the chief reason that drove into neethood, sometimes I feel like they want to kill me and it makes me feel depression, fright and rage, it sucks to have nothing in common with people from your area, it makes them want to fuck up your life just for the hell of it.



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 No.4264[Reply]

I was thinking about Youtubers, Twitch streamers and people who get paid for basically being on the internet and doing something that a monkey could.
These people could easily qualify as NEET, right? They spend up to 8 hours or more a day playing videogames or vlogging or something and most of their income comes from their fans.
Yet nobody really bats an eye at them other than the occasional angry dude that gets way too bent out of shape over people getting money from fans rather than employers. But with NEETs there's a higher level of stigma, telling them they're parasites and that they need to work on themselves and conform. Is the difference really as subtle as simply getting money? Or providing a service, even if it has little to no effect on society and the person's community?
What makes the difference in the way a NEET and someone who turns their hobby and cult of personality into a "job"?
Also have any NEETs here attempted this? Would you?
Is it viable? etc etc
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 No.4294

>>4268
It's kinda the art of not giving a fuck. When people stress you out, you don't say what you want to say, you don't present yourself naturally (which is very off-putting), and the unpleasantness of your situation gets communicated so you can come off negatively.
Don't just be yourself, be yourself and say fuck it

 No.5649

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>>4264
>have any NEETs here attempted this? Would you?
I would but I'm too socially retarded and unlikable for fame

 No.5652

>>4267
>I noticed there are increasingly >retarded people who would rather watch >other people playing videogames than >playing them themselves.

It might have something to do with developers getting increasingly lazy/incompetent, and instead of spending time on optimizing their shit like they used to for 30+ years, they just rely on ever-increasing raw hadrware performance.

This, and the fact that we live in an age where most people slave away just to barely make enough to survive. There's no way these people could afford a PC that cost more than a decent car, only to become obsolete within a year anyway.

Don't be an elitist. There are some playthrough videos that are quite well done. Caption-based or no commentary, straightforward playing style, going through all small details, no self-promotion, no drama.

 No.5653

>>5652
And yes, I'm a retard as well for not knowing how to format quoted messages.

 No.5741

>>4264
We live in weird times.



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 No.5700[Reply]

My 7 months of neetdom will end this september. Please help I'm scared, I don't want to go back.

 No.5701

I don’t really know what to say other than 7 months isn’t that long which is probably why you don’t want to go back.

 No.5708

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>>5700
You gotta work on slowly getting better, Anon. Go outside, talk with more people.
it gets easier.

 No.5709

>>5700
To be completely honest, it's better if you try to get out of NEETdom as soon as possible. I really think you should give it your best and face things now instead of several years down the line.
Either way, I wish you luck.

 No.5740

I'm wishing you the best. If you're in a position that allows you to live like you do now if you should fail, don't be too anxious. It may take some time to heal and get better before trying again.



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 No.254[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How old are you?

ADMIN NOTE: This discussion is OK again since the change to Rule #1.
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 No.5605

I'm 26.

 No.5606

32

 No.5613

I realized I haven't posted my age in this thread yet. I'm currently 28.

 No.5626

>>5475
Have you been a neet since then? I'm proud of you.

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I'm 32 years old. Severely depressed since a decade. Hikki for like 3 years now. I just want to sleep…



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 No.5733[Reply]

i've never really been accustomed to normal conversation, and i suppose that's why what happened today happened. i was talking to one of my few friends and she sent me a website saying that it was her least favorite site. it was this page where AI makes images of people who don't actually exist, and i asked why didn't she like it, and she began to rant about how i always ask such questions, meaningless inquiries that add nothing to conversation, and i just felt like shit… she told me to stop acting like i didn't understand anything because she "knows i do." i didn't understand why she would hate that website, that's why i asked her. now we're at odds. it'll resolve soon, i'm sure, but i just feel like i did something wrong. i've always done this, and people always seem to get weary, even though i'm asking genuine questions. i feel like i'm trying to be kept down, but i don't want to be.

i just wanted to ask a question.

 No.5734

>>5733
I don’t know exactly what happened but it’s sounds like you did nothing wrong. Has she ever said anything about air or anything related to the content of the site before?

 No.5735

>>5733

Perhaps she became friends with you because you looked/behaved like the archetypal "nice guy/girl"? If so, she believes that you are programmed to be always there for her, understand her, reassure her that she's always right, unconditionally agree with her on anything, and basically tell her what she wants to hear, even if she was the one who got herself in a massive shitstorm.

And now she discovered that you are in fact self-aware and have your own views and opinions, you became useless to her and she started to turn against you. It would have happened sooner or later unless you do as per described in the paragraph above, this website was just an excuse.

But don't worry, if this is indeed the case, she will ghost you in the near future. (If that happens, just don't ever try to contact her in an attempt to fix your "friendship". She will claim you've never really been friends, you are an awkward creepy stalker, and you are harassing her.)

TL;DR: if the situation was exactly how you described, you did nothing wrong.



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 No.5057[Reply]

Hello fellows NEETs I have a very singular problem. My reason for not going outside as much and working is not anxiety or fear of the outside world, though I am indeed very shy and awkward and seldom socialize.
I've been interned into mental hospitals and the like because this kind of living is making me do things that are considered too strange and worrisome, I'ts driving me crazy.
Anyway, I have a strange problem, when I go outside for too long I get very painful headaches and I have to go home early, not normal headaches but something on another whole level. I've been to psychiatrists and psychologist and regular doctor and they find nothing wrong with me, they say it's a psychological reaction.
This problem has prevented me from having a job or just going grocery shopping with the family and I don't know what to do. I'm taking medication for it but it's not working at all.
Do you have any ideas of what I can do or do other NEETs here are NEET because of other particular reasons?
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 No.5061

>>5060
Yes. I've always got tired of going outside and socializing and it leads to headaches ever since I can remember.

 No.5063

Could be the light, have you tried wearing shades, or even welding goggles?

 No.5720

>>5057

hey anon, I don't know if you're still around here or if you have the same problem still, but I have a very similar issue with headaches

I don't know what the cause is for me either really, but it might be genetic since my dad them at the same age
one thing that helps me is caffeine pills
sometimes they don't really work but when they work I can go ten or so hours without any pain

 No.5725

So, I cannot smoke. Listen for a sec, may be worth reading. When I was little it was presented to me by everyone as the biggest sin EVER, and when I heard that it also risks lifespan of ones I hated it. But not normal hate, I would go outta my way to hate the people around me too (smokers, not all of them). Now I don't hate the people anymore, but purely I just go crazy coughs around anything tobacco, even if I have perfect health and no real problems. Its all in my head and it also manifests for real from all those years of hate and rejection.

 No.5729

>>5057
Maybe you're allergic to the sun anon?
Have you tried doing trials where you go outside during the day once and during the night another time?



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 No.5583[Reply]

Anyone here has an absolute lack of motivation to do anything? Usually I find it hard to relate to other people because they mention having a hobby, having "only one friend" or even a girlfriend. Well, I have neither of those.

I have a really hard time to start doing things because of this lack of motivation, but when I finally find something I like, I usually get bored or tired of doing it in like… 2 days or so. With friends, I also have this social anxiety, I can't look at other people's eyes and can't even start a conversation. And the worst part is that whenever I feel like we're finally becoming friends or having a good relationship, I have no idea why but I start feeling uncomfortable around them at the point that I start avoiding them…

So, after a few years being a hikki, I finally got slightly motivated to find a way to move to Japan. I studied a bit and got a scholarship to study in a Japanese university. Well… It's been more than a year already, and after the first month here I stopped going to classes, made no friends and have no motivation to do anything at all again. I basically buy enough food for a few weeks, store everything inside the fridge (which is just next to my bed) and don't go out of the bed until I start feeling really hungry.

Have you ever been in a similar situation? How do you usually find motivation to start doing something new?
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 No.5693

same here. i just lay in bed all time.

 No.5717

I haven't posted on here for years but yeah

>grow up with no dad, mom went through like 5 divorces and married betamale salaryman who never loved me and I never respected


>have literally no chances of making friends ever irl, one friend I make is fullblown incel self-destructive nightmare living off his (more) supportive parents now


>make friends online (including here a lot when i was like 16 actually, but that's YEARS ago now)


>smart and know how to talk to people irl but my mother literally never let me go to an actual school


>when she did it was an alt highschool for people who had already been convicted of possession or had kids at 16


>meet people here but nobody stable, have online gf who got abused as much that doesn't stick around


>get older and nothing ever changes despite having wagie jobs off and on

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 No.5718

>>5717
Can I ask what brought you back here?

 No.5719

>>5718
Nostalgia

btw i met my first ubuufag irl this year, that was a good time actually

 No.5728

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>>5583
>Anyone here has an absolute lack of motivation to do anything?
Entirely. I've been isolating my self for practically my whole life so no motivation is probably a result of that or something. Also like you said, even if I did find something I want to do or enjoy doing, I'd stop at most 3 days later so I barely get anything done. The only thing that gets me out of my bed is so I can go on my pc and browse image boards. It's absolutely horrible and completely inhibits me from doing anything in the future because I can't even think of what I'd even like to do.

>With friends, I also have this social anxiety, I can't look at other people's eyes and can't even start a conversation

I also have this issue. I never start conversations with anyone so friendships completely rely on the other person to approach me, which rarely happens. Even if someone did, I'm too boring of a person for them to want to be around me because I add and do nothing and barely know how to communicate properly anyways.

>I have no idea why but I start feeling uncomfortable around them at the point that I start avoiding them…

I've never related to something as much as this before. I did this all throughout grade school and still do it know, even with my parents. But I can never understand why I do this. Maybe it's because I never really wanted to be friends with most people irl in the first place but I also didn't have the guts to say no to them and then look weird. I'm not exactly sure but do you feel a similar way?

>How do you usually find motivation to start doing something new?

I don't. If I do it's just a sudden impulse then it's gone in a couple hours.



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