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From now on, the >>>/rec/ board should generally be used for conversations about recovery from NEETism. This is not a hard rule but you are likely to have a better experience.

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
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this week i had
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Your second point is part of my intention, though the first is a valid concern. I am hoping that whatever activity I might cultivate in /q/ will both serve to show regulars and visitors where we stand, as well as balloon out to the rest of the site as a consequence of deflecting some negative sentiment by its presence. But, it is an experiment, so much luck is needed.

Also, /hikki/ by design tends to be very NEET-oriented, so I wanted an advice/discussion board more specific to LGBT discussion without necessarily having the NEET qualifier.


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Agreed with the other anon above. I know my posts seem overly negative about the idea of having the topic be freely accessible across all baords, but that's probably just my 4chan/edgy social media-poisoned brain wrongly assuming it'll cause shitstorm after shitstorm. Good luck.


Well, making a whole board for it definitely caused a shitstorm, but I still wish it could be easier to talk about in the existing boards. If someone wants to try I'll do my best to back them up and keep the derailers away, but it's kind of a battle and I am only one Seisatsu. Still you should be able to count on posts like >>6668 getting redtexted when I see them.


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Never lose hope to find another person simular to you who will see how you are beautiful inside. Helped me, couldn't wish better, actually was thinking nothing like this is even possible. Because everybody deserves love, and to love is also to give, no matter how one can not be appealing outside, everyone has god spark inside.

And then you woulnd't feel urge to find validation trying to join the_opressed or to label yourself as whatever you feel like at this point of time. You're living being, you're human, you should value opportunity nature had given to you and its better not getting confused in this rapidly changing world.

The third wonder of the Bodhisattva myth is that the first
wonder (namely, the bisexual form) is symbolical of the second
(the identity of eternity and time). For in the language of the divine pictures, the world of time is the great mother womb. The
life therein, begotten by the father, is compounded of her darkness and his light.131
We are conceived in her and dwell removed from the father, but when we pass from the womb of time at
death {which is our birth to eternity) we are given into his
hands. The wise realize, even within this womb, that they have
come from and are returning to the father; while the very wise
know that she and he are in substance one.
Joseph Campbell - The Hero with a Thousand Faces


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I was gonna stick this in the /sugg/ thread but I guess there's no harm doing it here.

>making a whole board for it definitely caused a shitstorm

I hate to say I told you so, but here we are. I feel a bit shitty having given you any support for making this site more overtly LGBTQ-friendly, and maybe even putting the idea of a dedicated space in your head, but hey - I admire that you gave it a go. That takes some reckless confidence I only wish I had. It was admittedly fun watching the shitstorm, though I have no doubt it was hell for you to experience. Sorry.

>Still you should be able to count on posts like 6668 getting redtexted when I see them

That's probably for the best. I think it's clear to everyone that you have your own vision of what you want this place to be like, but you're always going to be beholden to the users themselves and what they specifically want. It's no secret that an imageboard is usually just an imageboard, wherever you go. Such a niche board like this is only going to attract people used to the general culture of places like 4ch, or normals who wander in after playing YN on Steam. Chilled space or not, certain topics will forever be touchy just by their contentious nature. I appreciate your desire to take a more balanced approach, opting to moderate things more, but expect an uphill climb on that front. At least the new rules seem more agreeable.

Honestly, good luck with all of this in the future. All the best.

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How old are you?

ADMIN NOTE: This discussion is OK again since the change to Rule #1.
ADMIN NOTE: Fuck sake don't post that you're under 18 in here, rules are different than the Discord.
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Wonder where >>529 is now… I hope you're okay


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25 just last month.


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Everybody at the start of this thread is 5 years older now.


That's scary. I don't want to be 30


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24 going on 12.


Don't get b&, don't be a dummy,
Don't post your age if you can't legally party

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Is anyone else sad when their posts get no replies? I don't mean here but on bigger sites. I'm kinda lonely.
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i guess yeah. But putting your heart into a post only to get a low quality reply kinda makes me a little irritated but still content with having my post read.
I dislike discord for this exact reason. Also filled with people I feel like I am far past being able to relate to.
Social media in general seems like that though…


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>putting your heart into a post only to get a low quality reply kinda makes me a little irritated but still content with having my post read.

Yeah same. I'll vent out my entire childhood and it will only get a "shit happens" lol. Not like I'm upset about it, it's kind of on me to put this all on some random anons, but I still appreciate they take the time to reply to my stuff.


Its disheartening but I don't get worked up about it. There's plenty of reasons why a post might not get anyone replying to it and its not a good idea to jump to conclusions.
On boards like this with little activity it can take days, perhaps weeks before you receive a reply.


My empathy has been activated and I feel the need to respond to every post in this thread. This is making me feel actual pain. I must contain it and only reply to what I immediately read, and not read too much, or I won't have the time to do anything before sleeping. Do not apply that logic to me, I understand that people can't reply to everything and aren't always in the mood to do so, and then just forget about it. Please kill me and end my suffering.

Or not enough, since replying to older messages feels kinda weird. Very unbalanced. Either too much, so you can't have a good discussion, or nothing at all to talk about. And how do you start a discussion? Who do you talk to? Everyone? That's kinda weird. And even if you do talk to one person, isn't it awkward to know what everyone can read what you're saying? I don't know, I never liked being around groups of people in real life, and online it's not really better.

My posts tend to be longer and more detailed than most. Most of them are responses to other posts, and I tend to respond to anyone that responds to me as long as I have something to say, so in a way, it's good when I don't get a response, because someone will have to end the discussion and it typically won't be me unless there is really nothing else to be said.

I can pretty much only commonly relate to people on dead imageboards. There are not that many people that I talked to in the past that enjoyed interacting with enough to clearly and fondly remember, but almost all of those have been on imageboards. Occasionally comments somewhere else, but that only happened a couple of times.

Sometimes what people say can be overwhelming, and responding can be difficult. I know that I struggled with that before. Especially when people say a bunch of truly horrible things, I can struggle to even know how to react appropriately. I'm sure that I made other people feel the same in the past. I could tell.

And people can be reluctant to revive old threads or respond to posts that are too old in general. Maybe assume that the poster Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>Sometimes what people say can be overwhelming, and responding can be difficult. I know that I struggled with that before. Especially when people say a bunch of truly horrible things, I can struggle to even know how to react appropriately. I'm sure that I made other people feel the same in the past. I could tell.
I relate and really feel what you're saying since this just happened to me yesterday. I tried to interact with people outside of what I'd usually browse, on an 8gag spinoff to see if it was any good, but they were pretty hostile. Maybe it was because I tried to make a random rambling post to fit in, but yeah I feel like I am just failing really hard at trying to branch out because deep inside most people on imageboards look down on people who aren't the regular kind that they expect. I wish I understood people, even those who I think would get me. Honestly I wish there was a better alternative besides imageboards but there just isn't.

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How does anyone in this situation find it in them to seek help for mental health problems? I'm one of those long-term NEETs who can go outside very occasionally (think once every few weeks), mostly to stock up on bare necessities I need for the long-haul in isolation, but it exhausts me to no end.

To add to this, my already fragile mental health (generalised anxiety/clinical depressive disorders) has been deteriorating even more this past year than before, and now I can't even take care of those basic needs reliably anymore. I know the solution is to go back to my doctor or even see if my old therapist would see me again, but how does one find not only the courage, but the desire to seek out such serious and draining help when you can't even shower most days or hardly want to get out of bed? I used to imagine that I could go back anytime, because if I timed it to one of those days I had to go out anyway, it would be easier. But I've started relying on others like a fucking leech to bring back all the stuff I need for me sometimes. I'm probably moving one step closer to full unbroken isolation, and it sucks.

On any days where I feel "better" I prefer to ride the wave of that small high, and then I'm right back down where I started. I know that most of us losers here are stuck in similar cycles of inaction, because all we need to do is "just go to therapy and get a job lol", but it feels like I'm not going to break out of it, because I've been stuck in it so long that I don't even know what it means to "break out of it" now.

What do, /hikki/?


you just, find the courage. just do it. that's literally it. and then stick to a routine. there is no How's or magic tricks because it's all up to you.


Hey OP, maybe you could try to stock up on less things in a lesser amount of time. For example instead of buying 5 weeks worth of food every 5 weeks you could buy 2 weeks worth of food every 2 weeks. I did this and eventually I got down to a day worth of food every day. You can go out during the night, or in the rain when no one is around. That's what I did. I still don't have a job but I'm way more confident in myself now


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Infuriatingly, I know you're right.

Good on you, anon. I'll probably try to start with something similar, and see if I can ease myself into going out more often despite myself. Thanks.


>But I've started relying on others like a fucking leech to bring back all the stuff I need for me sometimes
If it makes you feel any better, this is usually the norm for NEETs.


I used to have a deranged kind of "pride" from taking care of myself in some small way, so it stings a bit to end up getting worse like this.

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How do you make online friends? Where did you meet yours? I'm so fucking lonely. I figured out I could ask here because none of you are going to give me shit advice like "go outside."
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I forgot to mention, if you think you're awkward don't force yourself, just say "I gotta go", or "gtg, cya" and just hop worlds, and try again. There will probably be other people in the same spot. I recommend trying it on Draynor Village, as there is a popular fishing and tree chop area inside each other at the back of the bank. a lot of players there. good luck op, and take it easy


Word. This reply's really good. The best people I know online are from small-ish tightknit communities.

& don't be shy as well


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Discord being spyware is one major issue. There are alternatives, but people just don't use them for some reason. I also don't like the idea of talking to groups in general. Who do I talk to? If it's dead and no one is there, what do I say? And if there are too many people around, it's not really possible to have a great discussion. I tend to prefer responding to people, but even if there are only a couple of people talking, I don't want to join a conversation that other people are having and potentially get in their way. In general, imageboards are what I like the most, but we never exchange contact information even when a good discussion does happen. The internet really feels kinda hopeless. It never leads anywhere.

Someone did get me to use Discord (after a conversation, so I had to be convinced, and to me trying to make someone use something else feels rude) and then "ghosted" me, as the kids say (and I used it in a browser with a good VPN and generally tried to keep it from being too invasive), and I was desperate enough to try a couple of groups, but it just didn't work and I couldn't talk. Gave up after joining a small group and a message loudly announced that I joined. Made me panic and quit everything and never try again. Real time online communication makes me too nervous. This is one aspect of myself that I definitely hate. For talking to complete strangers that I know nothing about, it's too much. In a way, it's scarier than real life and I can't contain my spaghetti, it immediately explodes out of my pockets.

Maybe I should play RuneScape. I actually never played it, which is strange because I played MMOs way too much in the past (and I certainly regret that now). Somehow never played one of the more popular ones, very strange. Kinda scared, though, because I may end up spending too much time on it. When I did play MMOs, I was really bad at interacting with people. Couldn't do anything that required collaboration. Still, I did talk to some people, though I never initiated the first interaction.


Almost the same for me, only difference is that it was on Skype and not Discord.
I honestly think that I am still chasing that feeling of belonging, comfort and intimacy. I miss those people, they were the best friends I ever had. We talked about everything with each other, did a lot of stuff together and helped each other out a lot. We even met once irl.
Whatever they do now and wherever they are now, I wish them only the best.
I miss them and the places I visited in the past, often I think about them.
I have to be honest and admit I am longing for things that are gone and won't come back. The reason why I am still on the Internet… I know nothing else and have the silly hope I will one day meet people I like again and a place I call home.
I actually met those people that I mentioned above on an imageboard and we got together because I dropped my contact information. Maybe just risk doing it, I doubt that on places like Uboa something bad follows.


My post made me think more about this matter and I think what I truly search is the cirklewanking I had with the few people I mentioned.
The playful teasing and shitposting, paired with the occasional serious talk about something. Exchanging opinions about stuff we watched and played, being just able to life my interests. Just having friends that are likeminded and there for you.
I am honestly afraid finding out if I would be satisfied again if I met new people that I get along with. I have changed, feeling more tired, more jaded, more burned out. I am afraid to get what I am chasing and finding out it isn't fulfilling anymore. That the magic is gone or separation regarding online and irl is getting to me now.
I wonder if I ever stumble upon a website again that makes me feeling fond of it or if the Internet just got stale for me. But what else is there for me except the Internet? There is nothing and no one else around, I cling desperately to it and I am afraid it won't be what I need nor want.

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I missed out on everything as a kid. I was always left alone by my peers which fucked me up of any social skills in the long run. I still have trouble holding a conversation. Have you guys had any trouble as a kid? This extreme isolation happened from 3rd to 8th grade which was enough to cripple me possibly my whole life. Or what is left of it anyway. Nearly 6 years of my life consisted of going home from school and back. Every day. Never talk with anyone, not even with family. Just me and my thoughts from a young age

I don't want to be like those other anons who just vent out shit here, so I'll ask the question, have you guys went through something similar that had a damaging effect on you? I still feel bits of loneliness from it.

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Similar story for early life. Only ever had friends on 1st grade and we never talked (we just gathered sticks together outside). After 1st grade I was left alone, but I didn't mind it. It was nice to just think alone all-day. It was like this for the rest of my school years. surprisingly I was never bullied for it.
As for this isolation having a damaging effect? Surely yes. I try to avoid places and times of day where I would have to meet people. If someone asks me anything usually my response is just one word and I get called absent-minded for this, but guess I am. Hehe.
Life is currently pleasant overall and i don't mind my past or present.


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(op here. Dashchan)

>do you use imageboards a lot, or interact in forums or irc's at all?

> i always find it so empty

I agree. It never feels like I'm part of something. It doesn't matter if I've been in a group for a year and half. It doesn't matter if everyone knows me as another one of them, sees me as an individual. I will always feel empty and lonely. I have a habit of deleting socials and making new accounts as a "new beginning". It doesn't matter if its something I did or just out of nowhere. It always happens eventually and I end up at square one.


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>Life is currently pleasant overall and i don't mind my past or present.
not a bad state to be in at all tbh. there's something peak-comfy about just riding the wave of whatever state you've ended up in.

>It doesn't matter if everyone knows me as another one of them, sees me as an individual. I will always feel empty and lonely.

fuck, i relate to that. ever wonder if you're just stupid and haven't found the "right" group to be in yet? it's true for some people, but sadly i think other people are just made to be alone even if they hate it.

>I have a habit of deleting socials and making new accounts as a "new beginning".

i was in that kind of loop for years, and only gave it up because i ran out of motivation to make more throwaway emails for it. it's kind of weird to remember people's names but not have a single person who could recognise me by my online aliases anymore. i hope you get out of it and find an actual place to belong.


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>ever wonder if you're just stupid and haven't found the "right" group to be in yet?

Always. I was really scared of this when I was in late high school (11th to 12th grade) it suddenly hit me like a train that I either find a group right now or spend my life possibly by myself all alone, but no matter how hard I tried to fit in with other people I just couldn't. The closest I went to being a functional social person was when I joined this random Turkish guys Discord server, and I actually started to use Discord a lot because of it, though I also saw the friend group crumble around me too. Even if I was really well known and loved by all members I still felt extremely lonely and it hurt a lot. It hurts a bit writing this too

Kinda similar background I think(?) I was a very social kid in 1st and 2nd grade, when I went to a different school in 3rd grade I was always left alone by others. The only times my middle school "friends" "hanged out" with me was in 8th grade, when I told the school counsellor about my suicidal tendencies. Figured easily she told them to hang out with me, since she couldn't really bother considering she tried to ship me off to CPS as soon as she could.

I do not trust theraphy because of her. My dad made fun of me for a whole year because of her. I will and do base me not getting help solely on her and I do not care.

>do you use imageboards a lot, or interact in forums or irc's at all?
I know I answered to this in 6632, but I'd like to add more)

I started to use 4chan back in 8th grade, I really liked the anonymity it gave me. If i posted anything in Facebook or whatever my peers would find ways to berate me with them, I really liked that I could take on anon identities in 4chan and other forums. Going into high school I kinda figured I didn't agree with the same things as the people of 4chan talk about, so I searched for other boards, lainchan etc etc… and ended up here. Uboachan is really nice. Some people in high school thought I was really cool for a while (because I used imageboards lol) but that didn't last long and they moved oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>I really liked that I could take on anon identities in 4chan and other forums

yeah, same. i think this is why i keep coming back to imageboards, despite wanting "actual" friends i can talk to on a more personal level. for some reason the anonymity is much more comfortable for me than having any kind of name to my posts. i often change which boards i use and my typing styles to make myself even less identifiable from day to day.

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If I'm successful financially, I think I might create a NEET house, as a safe space where NEETs can move out of their parents house, become a virtuoso of what they're passionate about, and/or be counseled on how to actually succeed at life. Eventually though, they will have to either use what they've learned to get a job and move out, or contribute to the household (I suspect it'd mostly be the later, since it's the safer option).

What do you think? Can someone learn to not be a leech on society in an environment like this, or would this inevitably reinforce their dependence on others? Would you be comfortable moving to such a place full of NEET strangers, even if shit hit the fan?
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Where are you going to find a bunch of NEETs?
All your gonna get is homeless people.


easy, just ask for a little bit of money a month, say 100$, from what people are talking online, there are a lot of adults living with their parents, and guess they would be glad to send their 30 year old off to some kind of shared flat


That would be wonderful OP, I'm trapped with my parents in an isolated shithole town and I hate it. If I had somewhere I could fly to and never go back I would be so much happier.


>isolated shithole town
Sounds comfy. I live in a big city and I'm miserable. I wish I could move to some bumfuck hick town and live in some cabin in the woods away from society


living alone in privacy somewhere in the woods sounds cozy but the thought of needing a ride every time to go to town for groceries or necessities kills the neet. Comfy without having to run into people but also within walkable distance to stores is a good balance to me personally

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Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?
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who is that cutie, OP??


>who is that
Imagine being this much of a newfag </3


okay. but answer the question.



coco keiki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCtedV-SEg
>5 years ago
I wonder what they are up to now

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I do not mean on this site but in general where are all the losers hanging out online now because all the imageboards are very slow and any of the bigger platforms are suffocating by censoring controversial opinions driving discussion of those topics away yet where is everyone?

ver the past 5 years it is like nearly every hikikomori realized that online communities for losers were not worth the drama or they killed themselves.
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There you go friend, I hope you like it.


I've heard about anon.cafe but I thought it was just another shitty 8chan ripoff. thank you kindly anon.


Anon.cafe is a board within a "webring" of various imageboards that fractured from the original 8chan. Most of these are pretty low activity but there is 8chan.moe which is being ran by the BO of /tech/ from original 8chan and some other people. It has branded itself as the "new" 8chan, though even the users of the site itself kind of disagreed with sticking with the 8chan branding and found it unnecessary at best and bad optics are worst. But for better or for worse it has open board creation and pretty relaxed rules so it fits the same ideals of 8chan pretty closely.

The answer to "where is everyone" is that most anons these days have probably fucked off into some discord room to circle jerk. But the answer to where is whatever is left of the 8chan user base, 90% of them are probably back on cuckchan and the other 10% are on 8chan.moe and spread around on webring sites like zzzchan.xyz

Most webring sites have a webring page that lists boards from every site within the webring, barring any they've removed from their own webring listings for various reasons.


>Discord is atrocious
this, the chat system is so fucking gay


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are there any 'real' hiki servers or is it all a meme. it feels like lately being a hiki has caught on like a trend – I don't relate to a person who has been without a job for a month or out of school for the summer and calls themselves a hiki. not to be elitist, I just think I'd have more in common with somebody who has been struggling with the fact they are a hiki for several years…

I saw a video about places in Japan where you can live with other shut-ins in a building but the catch being during the day time you have to spend time in the common room with everybody else boarding there. Those there are there for a reason, they aren't faking it. I kinda just want to find common ground in a space with similar people. Even if we aren't likely to chat just where are they like op said

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