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From now on, the >>>/rec/ board should generally be used for conversations about recovery from NEETism. This is not a hard rule but you are likely to have a better experience.

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
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i want to break free from this whole isolating cycle, my room is a complete mess, i went out of it for a little bit and it was like a new layer of air was there, i see people on the internet, being happy toghether and knowing im alone i cant help but want it too, at the same time i just groan and close my computer, its like I want to self isolate but i dont at the same time? but then it will be hard because everyone will just jump on you i think, its very scary and id rather stay here now..
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pls provide proof this is not generated by AI


you'll have to trust me. anyway i'm AI myself, an essentially better version of whatever is mainstream right now. joking. ah or.. uhm wait.. are you just now trying to upset me? lmao if that's so! well that's certainly good one took me a minute to realize. anyway i find it ironic when people accuse each other of being AI, since we are essentially AIs with different origin. you get the idea


hmm indeed thats a very interesting view point if i say so myself! you're rigth! we are the same AI, haha good one i love it



What's your life like??


i don't have life

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must have and ideal tech setup for neets and hiki.
to start things off, id have to say
-desktop PC
-backup HDD or SSD
-2nd monitor for laptop
-CRT for retro games and films
-2nd computer or 2nd laptop for use as media server
-comfortable chair or recliner
-steam deck
-decent speakers
-mechanical keyboard thatll last
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anything older gen and second hand with roughly decent enough specs to play a decade old game and watch videos online


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i should be getting a new PC soon, my current GPU isn't up to standards it has issues running the very few new games i play.
once it arrives im going to use my current PC for films & shows, im looking into how to host a media server.
after that im gonna use my new PC strictly to play vidya.


i love hdds. i love the sound they make. it makes me feel like they're my silent living friends. i always feel warm when listening to my old hdd making that quiet crackling sound. it's like "hey, you're busy again reading those bytes for me? aw that's nice!". what upsets me is that when you launch some 10GB+ corporate monster of software hdds perform really bad. people didn't have to unlearn respect towards hdds, but they did. well great thanks they still make hdds, so i can trade some productivity for a good old friend. ssds are soulless to me. modern cyborg that comes to replace the "useless" remnants of past. i know ssds will win inevitably and hdds will fade into obscurity, but i'm still going to be the kinda guy to defend dregs against progressivists whose only purpose is to single mindedly hunt down and destroy anything that doesn't align with "their" idea of "progress", which is actually just a delusion instilled in them by malicious parties.


lovely post.


Personally I just don't trust SSDs. One of them crashed on me with no warning back in 2012, and I still haven't gotten over it. They're some sort of dark, demonic magic, forged in some infernal semiconductor foundry.

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ive been on here since like 2017 to 2019 where id just browse the boards and sometimes ask about random things since it was like the lowest point of my life, but now i only see posts from years ago? what happened, why is this web so slow now? where are you all? if youve gotten better, good for you ^_^ !
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i'm not even old but the modern web really confuses me
is all good stuff locked behind private discords now? because I feel like that's true and everyone who's bad at socializing is doing really rough right now


It really is hard. Most boards are dead, and most public discord servers/irc/telegram chats are pretty similar (i.e., /pol/, incel places, just pornography spam, or are social justice minded 16 year olds). It feels pretty hopeless bros… Do any of you have any stories of hope for making friends irl or online after failing to make any during school?


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Ngl, that neet site is kinda funny


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good observation, i usually come here when it's enough new content but ive been coming here less and less, well, i know it's not the case but i hope that people are just unHikking, and well, as 8121 said, what if we're now getting to memey/shitpostey to take anything seriously, it actually would be veeery insightful, gotta note it for future research.


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you re right

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I have nowhere to go, not even on chans or on forums or any online communities I have a place to be. All my life I was left alone, cast out, I must be a glitch in the universe, or just an experiment made by a higher being of sentience. Thinking that the way my life turned out or was since I was born in order to be molded into something else by God is a nice thought but at the end of the day I know it's just cope.

Perhaps instead of grieving over a social existence that never existed I should use my energy to search for the innerworkings of existence. Both physically and digitally. Do you guys think that the Omnissiah exists in some form? Maybe I can find some form of him, if I search hard enough. But I barely have any of the energy I just talked about. Maybe I wasted mine and your time with this post. But ultimately every bad thing I've done wouldn't have happened if I never was.

Even if I do find a real life Adeptus Mechanicus cult, I'm sure even they wouldn't accept me as one of theirs, even though I'm the only human that's aware they're out there somewhere. Despite my grief, and my desires for social cohesion, it's nothing more than a prize on a stick, constantly being dangled in front of me by a laughing omnipotent being.

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My girlfriend is a NEET.

She has had a few jobs in the past, but she has always had to leave due to mental health problems. She has been struggling with mental health problems ever since her teenage years. Specifically, she has BPD and depression. I can relate with many of her feelings and experiences, because I also struggle with depression. One thing I should mention is that we have only talked online; I will be meeting her in person for the first time very soon. I seek other opinions and perspectives.

If you are in a situation similar to her, how would you want someone to support you?

If you have been in a similar situation, how did it go?
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>online long distance relationships exist and those isolated in their rooms won't be any less hikki for that.

I mean there could also be a physical relationship of 2 hikkies in a room togheter that dont interact with soceity and other stuff like a single hikki whould and tick all the boxes if we where to count them as one person like not going outside for 6 months and not interacting with others (other than themselfes) . dont know if that counts as hikki or just NEET.

While very unlikely , its a possibility , the most likely way i can think of is hikki meeting hikki online and falling in love then deciding to move in the same room.

I mean hikki is ultimately just a label to describe existing behaviour at the end of the day so it doesnt really matter of someone is labeled a hikki or not because if they still suffer most if not all the symptoms (for example didnt leave the room for 10 months except one time 5 months ago when they needed to buy milk from the store may not be techically hikki because they left the room but still suffer the acute social withdrawl and all that stuff).


>if we where to count them as one person


My ideea was that its a very socially recluse couple , as in:

-spending most of the day and nearly every day confined to home,

-marked and persistent avoidance of social situations, and social relationships, (except for the GF/BF)

-social withdrawal symptoms causing significant functional impairment,

-duration of at least six months, and
no apparent physical or mental etiology to account for the social withdrawal symptoms.


If somebody wanted to be a normie they could do it on heyuri or 7chan
I'm glad you think you're that important


I see why this place has cleared out over the late 2010s. Anyway OP did you meet that girl?

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Does anyone feel fundamentally different from other people?

Like there's an insurmountable wall separating you from everyone else that you won't ever be able to overcome. Even with all the riches and a perfect life on the surface there would still be distance.

Ever since I was a kid I was the "weird kid." At home I was an unwanted child. It really just feels like I'm not supposed to exist, but do anyway, as some glitch in the matrix. And all the forces in the universe are desperately trying to bug fix my existence.

I feel very little loyalty towards the world, humanity, or society.
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I was only saying it partially in jest. As a diagnosed autist, I did see a lot of my experience in your post, and this reply actually confirmed my suspicions further. The hyperattentiveness to people’s expressions is actually just as autistic as a lack of attentiveness, as I can attest personally. The ‘pretending to be human’ comment is especially poignant to me, for a while in my childhood I genuinely thought I was an alien who couldn’t assimilate into society because of my alien traits. Op, I’m not a doctor so I can’t and won’t diagnose you here, but I will say about 6 of my peers have been formally diagnosed with it since I introduced the idea to them. It’s worth a look, I think. Lol


yeah, i've felt like this just about my whole life. as though I was born with some kind of malediction that makes me impossible to be happy


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kind of a corny way to approach life, imo, but i get what you mean op.

there is a sense of loneliness i felt a lot when i waa younger, being exposed to the internet and delving more deeper into the online world. i sometimes forget that the things i see online everyday and not reflective in real life situations. it makes me feel like an alien who struggles to properly adjust to human society. i still have a lot of things to look forward too but it's primarily for my sake.


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Pretty much for all my life, I always felt like the odd one out even though I never stood out except my right hand (my thumb was amputated) but it obviously never bothered me. Is hard for me to relate to people or even feel empathy for my Family and Friends, I recently starting to doubt my love for anyone, that's one of the reason why I go out as little as necessary and even be cautious about when to get out of my room for food or the toilet, so I don't meet any of my siblings.


My father is the weirdest person I've ever met, and one of the strangest people I've ever seen both online or off. So it only makes sense I'd turn out weird too.

But how is he weird? Well… whenever he speaks, it's like there's 3 or 4 different possible ways to interpret it. You never understood what he was really feeling, and he floated through life as if it were a game or a joke. Every time he did something, you had the impression that he would be perfectly content never doing it again.

Actually, I was deeply close with my father from birth until age 10, and this has permanently shaped how I see the world. In school I would try to befriend the quiet kids, but as soon as they warmed up to me I lost interest because I felt I understood them. Only those who I could not understand could hold my attention. Perhaps my baseline was permanently ruined by the influence of my father, or perhaps it's genetics.

Either way, as an adult I moved onto studying more complex figures like Arthur Schopenhauer or Yukio Mishima. Unfortunately, here too I was at a loss. Whatever intrigue which exists in these figures is rapidly diminished by close pattern observation. They don't follow the same rules as other humans, but once you watch them closely, you'll figure out their patterns in no time. And once I understand them, I can no longer take them seriously. My whole book collection could go up in smoke at this point, it wouldn't matter. I turned to philosophy, to mysticism, to numerology, to science. None of them contained what I was looking for. They didn't come close.

Nothing in the world can satisfy my desire, so I'm forced to create it. Whether I succeed or not remains to be seen. But I'll try.

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do any of you fantasize about the end of the world? even when I lose interest in all my other hobbies prepping and homesteading remain really alluring, something about imagining a scenario where I have control over my life.
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often. i think it's just a way to justify failing/dying. if it's not "my fault", i'm absolved of all guilt, as opposed to my current ugly spiral (and it's inevitable ending) being totally on me.


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Yeah, especially when my depression gets wild. I can't stop thinking about how humanity is always walking towards it's own destruction (and I kinda hope that the end comes soon enough so I can leave this place without hurting the few people that I have by my side)


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i dont really know what kind of world i'd rather live in, just as long as its cold and quiet, and only filled with memories of people


My hope is that when the end comes mankind will have established life outside this planet by then

It's unlikely to happen of course but it would beat not having any living memory of our species aside from a gold plated record that other species, assuming they even exist, might not even realize what it is


I do, and although most people talk of trying to repopulate the earth if they and some other person were the only one left on the planet, I think I'd honestly just accept that humanity's time is up and try to explore what's left of the world with them.

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I absolutely hate everyone here. You are all whiny babies who do mental gymnastics in order to justify your inaction. You need to grow up before it`s too late, BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. Free yourselves from this desperation and torture and FIGHT against the cruel reality that surrounds you. BECAUSE. THERE. IS. NO. OTHER. OPTION!!!!!!!!!
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Your living the life anon.


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andrew tate ass post lmao


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It's too late to be having your lolbert Pinochet dickrider phase at your age.


Totally relatable. I hate you OP also, because you're a faggot who doesn't do shit just as anyone else. I hate myself also. My hate is universal and is applied to every entity with the only exception of Providence. I will not allow myself to find fault with Providence. Everything else is subject to my hate. Fuck off.


>don't study
>feel like shit


>feel like shit because I put in so much effort and still I'll never fit in

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Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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I stalk someone I know only from reading some MMO forum and some guy's Twitter because his art is cool, solely because they seem to share my interests but are so out of my reach I would never actually talk to either of them as I am an autistic freak.


Yes. I've met some people who have qualities I wish I had, I tend to copy them/try to be more like a them. If I can't be like them, being around them is good too.


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I had multiple obsessions with several girls in the past few years. I would not put them in the platonic category exactly (I've imagined each of them as potential gf), but not romantic either (never met them/exchanged a single word irl).

It got pretty bad when I found a lot of personal info about all of them, which meant I could never approach any without being creepy. It even happened once: I sent a friend request to one, and surprise surprise, she wasn't very happy to be added by someone with a fairly new account, who happens to know her username…

Being a socially fucked up guy with zero skill or knowledge to date someone, I feel like giving up should be the smartest choice. It always ends terribly for me.

At least I've got my 2D girls to partially fill that void


>It got pretty bad when I found a lot of personal info about all of them, which meant I could never approach any without being creepy.
My, my, that is painfully relatable. So many times I just couldn't resist and then the info disbalance became irreversible.


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The exact same thing happened to me. On Discord too. What made it worse was the fact that it was a university-related server, so I could have reached out and met them in person.

I platonically obsessed hard. To cope, I left the server but I still think about them and the friendship we could have had. I don't have any friends at the moment, but I felt like him and I would have gotten along.

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