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From now on, the >>>/rec/ board should generally be used for conversations about recovery from NEETism. This is not a hard rule but you are likely to have a better experience.

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
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I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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I'm the one who asked "How to get money for being female" and, personally, I'm not built to put up with degenerates, stalkers, and do things I find degrading (like sex work, farming simps, etc.) I would prefer something more discreet, I think I'll stick to drawing fetish art or making websites.


>Try NoFap and/or a dopamine detox.

Not the person you gave the advice to but:
Did you nofap/dopamine detox them? Did those acttualy work for you? are you sure its more than placebo? Any advice for either one or both.

Also in terms of nofap , while i havent done it ,i think its important to not fall in the "nofap makes basically a demigod" trap or even worse go full SR and then go even further into the rabbit hole and end up at "w*men are succubi trying to steal men`s magic cock juice and prevent them from accending to Nevada (just buy a plane ticket lol) or somthing"


I dont understand this mentality that someone who has worked in sexwork shouldnt get employed , like whats the reasoning. Its not like putting your tits online makes your code magically worse, who fucking cares? why?

Who is gonna recognise you as "the girl who does sexwork online" , like what 2 people that went to the restaurant once , went "this woman looks similar to that girl online , might even be her , thats neat" and buy their usual 2 number 9s with extra dip or pepperoni pizza.

I am not saying that what you are saying is wrong , i just dont understand why employers wont hire sexworkers.

(Not the person you replied to)


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I agree , on the internet its best to remain faceless , nameless and bodyless in general. What i mean by that is "they dont know how you look and dont know your irl name and personal info"

For example if you decide to get political , as you do and someone gets offended they cant attempt to call the company you work at and go
"umm… hey guys… so i had a political debate with one of your employees , he goes by the handle u/JokerMama69 , his real life name is Ion Popescu , and um… this guy is a [Insert political ideology] , can you pls fire him , thanx"

(from what I heard this happens to all sides of the political debates)

Or someone Jonny Galinder making you to play the blue whale challange and threatening you that they will kill you if you dont (if they follow up or not thats something else, but it will be much harder to follow up if they dont know who tf you even are)

And god knows what.


If you draw smut you can get a lot more followers if people know you're female. So pick a feminine name and post pictures of your hand while drawing with nail polish on. Goes for guys with feminine hands too.

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>Been a hikikomori for 11 years
>Been trying to recover for about 2 years now
>I feel like i want to die

I fucking hate my life can anyone relate??.
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>Feel protected when inside my room
Same. You described my situation perfectly. I think social rejection will contribute to creating an avoidant personality.


>even trying after 11 years

Sounds like quarter or mid life crisis. Accept who you are.


I don't know if I'll ever find a job. Almost 30 years old and nobody will hire someone who is this old and still unemployed. I'm trying to get a degree but I doubt it will make much of a difference. I was supposed to find a job by now but it never happened. It's fun being NEET in your early twenties but after a while it starts to become a huge problem. I'm going to end up homeless one day soon and there's nothing I can do about it. My life is basically over.


Lie. Say that you were self-employed doing something. Preferably something that you know about so you can lie better. Maybe that the scamdemic destroyed your business and you just want a job now. I don't know, I intend to do that. My situation is similar and I don't see a reason not to try that when I'm this fucked. At least I have some skills and can at least pretend that I used them to make money.


Have you tried just accepting life as a hikikomori? it ust suck to be a hikki who wants to be a normalfag.
Hey neety better try now or it will get worse unless you actualy enjoy having nothing and being a loser.

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I do not mean on this site but in general where are all the losers hanging out online now because all the imageboards are very slow and any of the bigger platforms are suffocating by censoring controversial opinions driving discussion of those topics away yet where is everyone?

ver the past 5 years it is like nearly every hikikomori realized that online communities for losers were not worth the drama or they killed themselves.
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Panicked and left, as expected. I hate being alive.


Like what >>6547 said all the losers went to /pol/ or to a tranny discord or both


I always thought imageboards were dying because NEETs and other "losers" (like myself) have gotten to the age that such a lifestyle is no longer sustainable. So they either killed themselves to avoid being homeless or joined the workforce. The brave few left embraced the life of a transient (kinda like myself).


I come here sometimes, maybe once a month. The big chans are terrible, and the smaller ones (at least the ones I've found) are full of porn or other similar junk.
Unfortunately, discord and other discussion platforms are filled with normalfags or trannies, so it doesn't leave very many options.
I try to occupy myself with other things and consider occasions where I get to talk to nice people as highlights of the month.
Hope you'll find a place you like, just don't get too caught up in trying to find one.
I spent all day just looking at stuff on that search engine, thanks for posting.


I will challenge the idea that a community needs to be slow to be quality this is true to ap oint but have you never seen all the small slow imageboards and BBS that are just fulll of shitposts?

I think a sense of community is needed and up to a point it can be active as long as you have 3-5 people active at a time on a discord who are quality users the server can remain high quality and there are times where shitposting is fine but the users need to know that when a topic comes up worthy of discussion it is time to try make quality discussion.

As far as I see it with imageboards the problem starts at the top.
The admin needs to get the place known and remove people who do not fit in and this is a hard thing to do properly.

The idea that slow means good is bullshit because what determines good has nothing to do with being slow it just needs to be slow enough that someone can sit down and put effort into a post without it quickly dropping off the board or being ignored.
What matters more than something being slow is the quality of the community to start with.

Imageboards are probably dying because the new generations getting online care more about validation so need upvotes and reddit and normie social media is just the obvious choice so even if a kid gets onot imageboards they will still have learnt internet culture from cancerous normalfags.

It takes too much effort to make any community online..

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Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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It's dangerouns to obsess over someone AND not interact with them. That's an easy path to idealizations and false expectations and that never ends well for anyone involved.


Every so often I get really horny and watch a lot of porn. I get paranoid about porn being deleted from the internet forever so I save it on my hard drives. Every so often, I stumble on a relatively unknown pornstar who is attractive, but usually retired or mainly only does a bit of modeling and selective paid porn clips on clips4sale or something. I usually get really invested in them and track their social media, and if they aren't active or oddly stopped being active somewhat recently, I try to track down anyone that may know their status. I download as much of their catalog as I can find that is available anywhere online and they don't leave my head for maybe weeks or even months. Especially if they are still silent on social media and that small connection I may feel will be gone.


There's a person I've known online for over a year that I wanted to get in touch with in a "I want to be friends with you" way. Recently I started thinking about it again, and for a few weeks I struggled with an urge to message them. Eventually, I cold emailed them a short message, they saw it and I got a response. That got rid of this specific uncertainty and got it off my mind. I wrote multiple drafts before I ended up with the one I sent.


>feel like a creep
>check favorite dead board
>whole ass thread of fags doing the same shit
>feel better


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feels good to know you aren't the only fucking dumbass that does shit that may be weird

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I miss the NEET life I had…

> Current life in an apartment with girlfriend

> Have a job

But I'm still not happy. I feel I don't have enough free time. If I'm not working I have too little time left to sit down and actually enjoy a game, and when I don't do that I have to invest time in my relationship, and when I'm not even doing that, I have responsibilities to take care of.

Even if I have a job, I do NOT have money for myself, at all. When I was a NEET all my money and time was only for me, myself, and I. I don`t wanna go to work, I wanna sit down on my ass and make games and play games, but this lifestlye is long gone, no longer available. I regret some life decisions I made, I really, really wish I could still be a NEET.

Best scenario would be: Keeping my gf, become a NEET again, but this is clearly impossible.

Have you ever experienced regret from no longer being a NEET?
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You could make your videogame making hobby into a something you get paid for , for example you set up a patreon account for donations.
Its not much money but it could help , maybe could even become a sustainable method of living if you get enought patrons


Don't listen to the anons telling you to drop your gf. I've been in a relationship for 2 years now and it's literally the only thing that has prevented me from spiraling even more. The problem isn't her, it's your job. Find a way to work less so you have more time to yourself.


>I'm still not happy
There's some root problem you're not adressing.


>The problem isn't her, it's your job. Find a way to work less so you have more time to yourself.

He did say best case scenario is become neet and keep GF rather than NEET and drop GF or have or NEET and no GF


I felt the need to reiterate I guess because other posters were telling him to drop his girlfriend and I think this is a bad idea.

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How do you make online friends? Where did you meet yours? I'm so fucking lonely. I figured out I could ask here because none of you are going to give me shit advice like "go outside."
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The only ways I've met people online are through the game I play most of the time. I have also met people on a few boards but they never last. Not saying people I find in my game last a long time ether but they still have me added and we play sometimes. Its fun to play games with friends I used to do it all the time when they still played sadly not any do anymore. Feels kinda lonely now days but I dont care too much as I'm used to being alone.


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I have no idea. I only ever got one friend online but that only lasted I think three months. No idea why he had to leave, maybe he really had BPD and I shouldn't have dismissed and ignored that. Maybe he just got sick of me because of my weird autistic ramblings. I can see how someone a lot more normal than me would think that I'm too much to deal with. First time this ever happened and I got "ghosted", as the kids say.

Over time, reality looks simpler to me than the internet. But either way you have to expose yourself to other people somehow, but even that involves a lot of chance. I want to risk everything and go to places in real life that could increase my chances of finding some degree of happiness, but as soon as I decided that I had enough of being a hikki after so many years, the world decided that no one is allowed to go anywhere anymore. It's like it conspired to ruin me. I'm sure that a lot of people feel the same way.

Even in communities that match my interests (and I have more than most people, which is kind of a problem in a way) I'm still weird and not compatible with most people. People like my posts in various places and say nice things, but it doesn't help, it never leads to anything and I don't know how to be that active. People even said things like "I need a friend like you" before, but how am I supposed to respond to that? I don't even know anything about them because there was no discussion leading up to that, it was just me rambling as I always do. Anyway, I strongly regret not getting contact information from the few random people that I really enjoyed talking to a lot, over the years. That was a huge mistake. I can't recreate those situations either, because all of those encounters happened by accident, mostly in places that don't exist anymore.

Groups are also troublesome. Big groups are more active, so it's easier to find a discussion to join, but it's also easier to be ignored and it's more difficult to have anything meaningful. Small groups are dead, so if I say anything the focus will be entirely on me and I feel like I'm being watched by a silent crowd and that makes me too anxious, more than just being part of a crowd. And there is nothing to talk about anyway. Discord doesn't work because I have lurked Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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> People even said things like "I need a friend like you" before, but how am I supposed to respond to that?

Send them a friend request, and start by greeting them. 8 times out of 10, they will respond favorably. The rest is just basic conversational skills you can gain by having more and more conversations.

> Maybe I should look for groups

I would in fact recommend that
The main purpose of groups is to find people you like talking to, and befriending them, and not being an active member of said group per se.

> Everything is way too complicated And this is just friendship, it's easy mode compared to trying to find actual love in this nightmare world.

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>Send them a friend request
Well, those are people that I haven't even talked to, so that feels very random, and kinda wrong. Especially when if we didn't get along, I would feel bad adding someone and then not talking to them.

>NOT getting into e-dating

I understand that. The internet is only good as a starting point for anything real, and even that is only arguably the case. I feel like it's not good for anything these days. It's too artificial and there are no places left for people like me anymore.

>It'll make you look like a weirdo

I am a weirdo, so it makes sense to look like one. It's honest, and a lot of people seem to like it, so it's fine (and incompatible people are even free to hate me if they want to, I don't care). Anyone that doesn't like weird autistic people should avoid me like the plague. Even for the ones that do I may be a little too much after a while. I still think the website would be good so people can have a basic idea of who I am without a lot of time investment. Just as a way of centralizing information. Including contact information (that I don't even really have right now), so I don't have to give it to people.


idk but i met my online friend thought minecraft , we where playing on some server , some guy tasked us with making a big fucking floor for him (like 255x255 dont remember) in exchange for some money because he was hella rich
, we got on discord then we talked about stuff , eventually went and did something else, he eventually invited me and added me to his protections (protection is anti-grief , if you are not in the protection you cant break blocks).

Some more shit happened and boom , best friends.

I dont have any advice sadly , just this personal anectdote which i hope will be useful

I guess just start talking to people (online and perhaps otherwise) and approach and start the conversation the people you like talking to the most idk.

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What would your life look like if you lived exactly the way you wanted to? This question is based on something that I recently thought of and I'm interested in seeing people's responses.
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I believe living a pleasant life is possible, but I'd need to change many things in my past, starting with childhood.
The way it is now, no matter what happens, I will continue to feel regretful and maladjusted.


>living in a farm in Italy
>a tiny house made out of cob and bricks
>a garden full of fruits and vegetables, with many flower pots and vines
>many animals in the barn, and cute big dogs as pets
>realizing that it will never happen
>and if it happens, there's still be a sense of loneless, because the only thing missing is a loved one. And that you can't buy with money.


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If I can actually restart it from the beginning then it would be basically to live in pic related, just with amazon delivery and modern conveniences, but social media doesn't exist.
If I can't then just have enough money to be a neet until I die of heart attack at 50 or something, at this point there is no fixing this shit anyway.


I would live in an apartment in a big city where I work an office job every day from 6am to 9pm and have a kind and affectionate wife who I'd adopt two children with and maybe have a biological kid with too. Alternatively I would live in a place like >>6527


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a life like that portrayed in non non is definitely the idyllic dream. i lived in the middle of nowhere for a few sweet months when i was younger and vastly preferred it to the city life i always had prior, and the suburban hell i'll be stuck in forever now.

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What are your MBTI types, /hikki/ ?

I recommend taking a few different tests and understanding what each letter means. I'm also guessing that most people here are INxx

Some people discredit MBTI, but I think if you treat it a a rough guideline, it can offer some good insights to yourself and others.

INTP wasted-potential masterrace reporting in
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Forgot to attach a file, Jesus fucking kill me please. Anyways, just finished the test.



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I am hikikomori and I used to get upset about it but then I tried to overcome agoraphobia and social anxiety only to discover I prefer being by myself.
There is nothing out there for me so I sit inside and listen to music and I feel very tranquil yet suicidal at the same time I think it is peak apathy. I have given up on myself and that is honestly ok with me I see life differently now and am gla I spent near a decade as a hikikoori.
I have had a lot of time to investigate thoughts and the world from reading and experience but have come to understand that there is no understanding and trying to do so will only lead you to the abyss.
Reason leads to pessimism and bleak existential despair because we are human and cannot cognize beyond what we can observe without building on top of many abstractions.
I might die or I might not and none of that matters unless I think it does but I did want to make this post to try encourage some other hikki not to improve as such but really think about everything.
If you do not desire a normalfag life why bother trying to gain one and if you do ask yourself why.
I took a knife to my watch and cut a sliver off as I hope that it may help someone else.
It can always get worse in life that is a certainty but also as the Buddhists say our desires bring us pain however we need to juggle well and not go to any extreme with ascetism and just throw our hands up whilst experiencing the wind brushing against our face and accept it as it is without any other added abstractions.
Mindfulness is important a lot of us we think far too much it causes much of our social anxiety also and it is not bad to think a lot but we have to realize our cognatize skills have become over extended and are useless do you understand what I mean? do you understand what I mean when I say that empiricism can never explain anything beyond an observation of what appears to be and a philosopher can never explain anything beyond a structure built from abstractions which are untestable?
We cannot know and the more you know the more you know that a universal theory or answer to life is out of our hands for it requires understanding every single moving part that exists and we will never know because we are limited that is a theme repeated throughout life.
We could birth a machine with a semblance of consciousness a meta human but no matter how "intelligent" it too would be trapped within the simulacrum from which it was constructPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>do you understand what I mean?
Anon… I have to tell you, your post is to deep for my anus


thank you

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