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From now on, the >>>/rec/ board should generally be used for conversations about recovery from NEETism. This is not a hard rule but you are likely to have a better experience.

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
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this week i had
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Your probably right but idk some people can be really stupid. I've met people who think like that irl before(granted it was years ago as I've not left my room in years).


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I can relate a lot to this, you are not alone with your suffering.
What does it change if I would aim for the change? My father would kill be with his bare hands if I would do it. Good thing I don't want to though. Why should I?
So many experiences already made, I was born male, went to school male, got my diplomas male, worked male. My upbringing and education is done and everything in connection to it too. If I would change now I would destroy the last bridge I didn't burn yet, my past that leads to now. Sure the spot I am in is shit but there is nothing to gain with a change anyway. For what the change when so many, including the state and the last people that help me, don't even acknowledge it? I wouldn't even be a full-fledged girl anyway, internal organs, you know?
If there would be a button to press that resets everything and causes myself to be born female, anytime.
There is no choice but to life with it, as an introverted and lonely man. Picking things that I like to bring some joy to myself and giving my best to somehow manage.
As somebody said on this board, if you don't want to rope, then you have to cope.


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>shit bait
>still takes it

>Jojo is a garbage

>T. shojo fan

you probably have a bad relationship with your father and have low testosterone in your body.
i would recoment you to fix that.
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Jojo is still garbage for tiktok teens though.


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>creates bait
>people take it
>"wow lad you took bait knowingly you sure are dumb"

>genuinely believes low testosterone or daddy issues mean anything in this context

>is determined to post bullshit to get attention and rile people up
>hides behind a veneer of "I'm not being hateful"

You're right about weird terminally online transtrenders if nothing else. You're still yet to post anything remotely close to genuine advice on the neet/advice board.

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Antisocial makes it seem voluntary. It's not. I turned down a new friend because I'm terrified of social interaction. I hate myself. I wish I could go out but I'm confined to myself and my stupid social anxiety. I couldn't even hold a job for the whole summer because it got to be too much.


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social interactions fucking suck. as a matter of fact, most people fucking suck. after being betrayed by a couple of friends/family and going through 8 horrible jobs despite having a bachelor's degree, i can see why some people are driven to fedpost some victims.


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I gave in and posted somewhere else to add to the conversation and ended up fighting with some idiot and it ruined my day, I hate people so much. From now on I wont speak to anyone ever again and just isolate myself completely.

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I do not mean on this site but in general where are all the losers hanging out online now because all the imageboards are very slow and any of the bigger platforms are suffocating by censoring controversial opinions driving discussion of those topics away yet where is everyone?

ver the past 5 years it is like nearly every hikikomori realized that online communities for losers were not worth the drama or they killed themselves.
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I don't know if you play video games these days anon but I've found that old internet vibe in some games. Things have changed, it's not the same, but old source and goldsource games are still comfy for me. I found a populated spanish sven co-op server that felt like it hadn't changed in 20 years soundboards and all.


There is also a textboard that I can recommend: https://textboard.org/prog/


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>are there any 'real' hiki servers or is it all a meme. it feels like lately being a hiki has caught on like a trend – I don't relate to a person who has been without a job for a month or out of school for the summer and calls themselves a hiki. not to be elitist, I just think I'd have more in common with somebody who has been struggling with the fact they are a hiki for several years…
I know that feel. I was in a hiki server and only a few people were actually hikis. Most were people who are out of college for a bit or people in school. I wouldnt say I haven been struggling with the fact I have nee hiki for almost 10 years. I dunno I just dont find it an issue or a problem. Maybe I'm just weird.
>I saw a video about places in Japan where you can live with other shut-ins in a building but the catch being during the day time you have to spend time in the common room with everybody else boarding there.
I used to be in another hiki discord for a while. It had mostly hikis as it was rather small. I had to take a break from it cause it was too social for me. I cant handle social stuffs a lot I dunno why. It was a nice discord but I just had to take a break for a bit. Sadly when I came back the discord server vanished. Not sure what happened as I didnt get on discord for a month or two. I may talk a lot sometimes but most of the time I dont want to talk or just want to be alone. I dont think I could handle having to talk with people everyday. If I have to it just gives me a headache. I need like some alone time its weird I know but if I dont take a while and just be alone and not social I get headaches.


Find individuals through whatever means you want to online (Youtube, forums, games, etc.), add them on Discord, ask if they're in any servers. Then expand your circle with other people and join more relevant servers. That's what I do, at least.


I was going to make a joke about how you unfunny losers are just butthurt that no one laughs any more when you type "nigger" but then the 3rd poster literally just said that verbatim

kill yourselves

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Any hikkis here figure out a way to make money without leaving your room and going outside??.
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Online gambling is a scam. They adjust the odds in real-time so if you are consistently winning, they change the odds so you always lose in succession to lose most of your winnings.

I know this is a FACT because there is a trick to always win 100% of the time at roulette. If you tried it in a physical casino you'd be banned from entering. But when you try it online, the online casino game starts to act very strange.



I applied to work with rev but their application form didn't work. There was no certification to pass. It expected me to submit the form with no changes as there was nothing to mark.


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>makes bullshit claim
>doesn't elaborate or even say what the title is cause "muh NDA"
so you're either full of shit, or you're full of shit. got it.


weird seeing this thread from 2017 here post-COVID. yes, all computer programming jobs are now fully remote. I haven't left my house for work in 3 years. it's ok


you got any experience using this, anon? what's the rate of offered surveys and the (actual, realistic) pay someone can expect to get out of it long term? being told $6.50/hr on the site is cool and all, but it won't really mean much if the average time you invest is too low.

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You too can become a home designing hermit simply through playing this game.
Not sure if anyone really wants to take part but I thought it might be fun.

You can download it here: https://ryan-nein.itch.io/hermit-home-designer

It's simple:
1. Start designing
2. Share your designs here as you progress through the game
3. Reply to your own original/previous post so we can neatly see your designing skills

- Sometimes creating, moving and deleting items will randomly affect your decor (an item placed above another item might randomly end up beneath it). Keep this in mind and try building slowly.
- The game at the end will allow you to revisit your designs so if you didn't screencap it, it isn't entirely lost.
- Closing the game will however delete all progress so be careful.

not the creator of this game btw, just a hiki who wanted to post and share it.
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Here's the room I made. looks like my irl room minus the TV


What posters/figures/daki do you have irl?


I have a FLCL poster I printed and put on my wall with tacks and a few "posters" I made myself and some nendoroids. (also got a few bootleg Doraemon figures) Forgot to mention I don't have a daki too sorry about that


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I made my actual room irl. I dont think I would want anything more really.


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If I'm successful financially, I think I might create a NEET house, as a safe space where NEETs can move out of their parents house, become a virtuoso of what they're passionate about, and/or be counseled on how to actually succeed at life. Eventually though, they will have to either use what they've learned to get a job and move out, or contribute to the household (I suspect it'd mostly be the later, since it's the safer option).

What do you think? Can someone learn to not be a leech on society in an environment like this, or would this inevitably reinforce their dependence on others? Would you be comfortable moving to such a place full of NEET strangers, even if shit hit the fan?
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easy, just ask for a little bit of money a month, say 100$, from what people are talking online, there are a lot of adults living with their parents, and guess they would be glad to send their 30 year old off to some kind of shared flat


That would be wonderful OP, I'm trapped with my parents in an isolated shithole town and I hate it. If I had somewhere I could fly to and never go back I would be so much happier.


>isolated shithole town
Sounds comfy. I live in a big city and I'm miserable. I wish I could move to some bumfuck hick town and live in some cabin in the woods away from society


living alone in privacy somewhere in the woods sounds cozy but the thought of needing a ride every time to go to town for groceries or necessities kills the neet. Comfy without having to run into people but also within walkable distance to stores is a good balance to me personally


I'd take advantage of your generosity anon, 99% of us would because we wouldn't be able to help it. You can't just stick a bunch of dysfunctional people in halfway home and expect meaningful things to come of it. If I'm a depressed, reclusive chud and my roomies are depressed, reclusive chuds, it's going to turn into a game where we inevitably avoid one another as often as possible because none of us want to roll the dice with burdensome social interactions.

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I used to post here before but stopped after living a normal lifestyle, for a while atleast. I got fired and I've been jobless for like months now. My previous motivation to work on my personal projects and illustrations have all since diminished. I feel only apathy when playing games or watching stuff like I used to enjoy. Nowadays I just constantly press f5 on various image boards to pass time and listen to songs I've heard countless of times before already. Then I remembered this place and feel like I should share this here.

Please feel free to share your current situation here so we can feel alone togehter or some gay shit.
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>I just spent all this time over an ancient discussion
Now I feel like a silent therapist of sorts, like that midget in the willy wonka movie.

Basically, what >>4025 says. Chill out.
When I realized things weren't going anywhere I stepped out the topic. My posting on the conversation wasn't so much a complaint but just a "This is my case and things don't necessarily have to be the way you guys think". Then it was dismissed and the point derailed into a topic I had no problems with. No need to worry about it so much, I've been on imageboards long enough to engage in many retarded discussions of every sort, so it's not like it killed me inside or anything like that.

>Now maybe you are a lot more social now, in which case, the discussion no longer applies. Maybe you are satisfied with just a shallow social circle and a daily grind that is littered with small distractions like vidya games and anime, but that just sounds like settling to me. Forget having sex and getting a girlfriend, or using your own example, owning a tank for that matter, your general attitude is what worried me and wanted to help you.

Some time when I was a pre-teen (maybe slightly before, I can't tell), I realized there was a gap between me and most of the people I knew. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean I was a special snowflake of some sorts, it's just that I couldn't understand people and I felt like they were at the other side of a deep chasm. I engaged on my own interests while neglecting socialization and I came to appreciate my time in solitude, where I could do as I pleased. I've grown up practically living like this, so now that I actually know some people who happen to share those interests I simply talk them out and engage in the socialization I neglected for all these years, since these people happen to have one of their feet on this side of the chasm.
I still have some little problems, yes; for example, I notice I change when around people, I tend to do very silly jokes and put on a childish attitude for the sake of joking, and sometimes I don't like how I act. Some part of me inside is calling me out for being too extrovert. But I don't think that is bad at all, it's just that it's new, and my brain is too overwhelmed with all the new activity. Old habits are hard to break, after all, and years jokiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>Stop belittling yourself
One habit I want to break, my early rants used to be in that belittling style.

>excessively apologetic

Ugh, that's what I wanted to avoid. I recently decided that I was just going to be apologetically me, because in general I'm not a bad person so why the fuck am I saying sorry a thousand times a day?

>Chill out.
Completely unrelated to rest of the post, but I'm pretty calm now. Slept way better knowing I was more concise with my point and of course was much more honest and upfront. That said, long emotional spiels like that are why I make private journals for me to bitch and be as nonsensical or whatever if need be. Then I think way clearer.

>A solution solves a problem. What is the problem you see here, exactly? Neglecting parts of life people generally agree are needed for finding happiness? Disregarding experiences because they don't really tingle enough inside me? I'm honestly interested.

A little of both I guess, but those kinda goes back to the to fact that if I feel that someone is being indifferent to something that is somewhat important because I at this point in time, I feel that my indifference to a number of things messed up certain elements of my life. Plus, I feel like if I'm not improving in some way, then I'm just stagnating. So if I see that in someone, I really hope they at least make baby steps for a better life. But it's more than just you though, in real life I have a younger brother making similar mistakes I made. Of course, he won't listen to anybody, I didn't mention that because, not relevant but I guess it kinda is since it relates to how I view problems. Indifference and the regret or problems that often come from is just something I see in myself and other people and it annoys me.


My job training starts soon. I had to get a job eventually but I really just want to curl up in a ball and stay in my room.

I haven't released anything yet, sorry. What I'm hoping to make someday is a cute low poly game packed full of dreams which I've had over the course of my life. Even after such a long time I can still remember a lot of them to varying degrees.

So far I have character designs and some rudimentary location sketches and a massive rough draft map linking the areas together. My biggest hurdle which I have yet to overcome is that I have no idea how to "accurately" fill up explorable areas of locations which I never went to when I was dreaming. I was originally hoping it would be 100% dream content with no filler/made up content just for the game, but since that won't be possible I'll just have to figure something else out and deal with it.

Once I seriously start making progress I'll most likely talk about it here.


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im learning several programming languages. i want to be able to read and write basic things in practically all languages there are, i am studying 12 languages more in depth because i like their paradigms syntax niche uses etc a lot, and a final language as my swiss army knife with all its libraries etc.
next year ill go to an university and get a bs in applied math with a minors in pure. ill be taking a lot of electives. classes from neural networks, bayesian inference and ai to information, model and automata theories to algebraic topology and differential geometry to algorithms II and algebraic graph theory, i think its a really cool course.
then ill get a ms in cryptography and a phd in information security. during my ms im planning to focus almost exclusively on cryptology so i can be very good at it. then learn more practical things during my phd, and other things i didnt get to learn before then.
also im learning 4 human languages. maybe ill pick a couple more with time depending on my progress.
im addicted to studying, i spend all day reading, when i wake up i hurry to my computer to read pdfs, when i go to bed i think about what i learned today until i fall asleep. i dont do anything else anymore, i dont watch anime or read manga or play games or masturbate or listen to music. every day is reading all alone. this will be my life for 10 or so years. its an extremely frugal and repetitive lifestyle, i eat the exact same meals every single day. like grinding in a rpg.
i had a very agonizing first two decades of life, in the past couple of years ive experienced more things than in my whole life before, im experiencing a lot of things for the first time, its like im just born. im finally free to be myself. the best years of life are gone, if i could start over id have gotten into computers as early as possible and do nothing but study and study every day like im doing now. its like living the childhood i didnt get to live. i dont think theres a point in even trying anymore, i have no expectations of success but im doing it anyways. im extremely happy. my life is a mess and im against overwhelming odds but if everything is up to me then i think im going to make it and ill be really outstanding at what i do.
and i want to never again talk to anyone. i want to spend the rest of my life all alone with computers.


I've gone full schizo but I refuse to seek medical help because I'm scared. I think I might have some kind of disorder where psychosis is the major symptom. Could be worse, though.

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post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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I relapsed health wise and my dad is here minding me but I'm still doing pretty well

The 1 bedroom flat is fucking terrible but it'll do until a few months when I get a new place

Making lots of music now



Have a new place now holed up for Corona
Also a gf which is nice although she's very energy sapping makes it hard to pace myself


Recovering from some sort of foot infection thing.
Been on anti-biotics for like 9 days.


Broke up with that girl because my condition couldn't handle
Few girls since haven't been able to handle my condition, just got broken up with
Also since bought a house and started a whole musical collective around my studio with money from my dad
But he's run out of money
And I'm relapsing health wise so moving out to the countryside
I recently was able to play soccer again, but stress recently has gotten me down don't think I can live this life I built for myself in the last year
My best friend I played music with all the time had a mental breakdown with psychosis and moved out to home
2 housemates had covid back to back and we couldn't leave the house

Dunno what the future holds but I guess I'll just be living off rent in the countryside doing fuck all with my cat


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I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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Thanks anon!


it's already the second time i try to learn about seo, building sites, affiliates etc. and i'm almost giving up, it's all so confusing, everyone tries to be as vague as possible to avoid competition, every time i find a post explaining something it's always for people that are already running a site and is full of technical jargons.
obviously googling it is useless because of all the people trying to sell you their courses and services


Damn that's pretty disappointing. I was worried about the tax evasion part, figured you could just use crypto but I don't know much about that area. I will probably look into cheat dev for fun anyway, I guess not for a living though. Thanks anon.


It sounds like you know a thing or two about porn commissions. I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to get into the business?

Back in 2019, I advertised that I was willing to do things like same size vore, dacryphilia or loli art but no one responded (even though I had about 48 followers on Instagram who followed me even when I posted ecchi art). I'm on places like Newgrounds and DeviantArt but still no one is interested in my shit!

Like, what the fuck?! I thought porn commissions were super easy to do? And I'm not even against doing porn commissions because I have some weird ass fetishes that I could capitalize on, but nothing seems to be happening!


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I'm not that anon, but I think the dynamics of the commission market have changed a lot over the years. People are more likely to commission people they know and artists recommended to them by friends. There's also a social aspect to it. There's a big chunk of commissioners who enjoy watching their commissions be drawn on stream, although not all are like this.

The days of just posting porn and getting a flood in your inbox are over, now that it has become less taboo and more artists are willing to do it. Even in the hay days, having 48 followers wasn't really enough, especially on non-porn sites. Also since there's more competition now, your style, content and characters have to be really unique. Being good at drawing is not enough though. To grow your following you need to engage with other artists and your fans as much as possible, chatting and possibly doing requests, collabs and trades.

Most people use Discord now to socialize. Talk to your commissioners and get to know where they like to hang out. People with different fetishes tend to have very different hobbies so I can't really tell you where to look. Websites have become a waste of time though unless you're getting your dick sucked by the algorithm. I just upload my stuff to imageboorus and share it where people are actively sharing art and talking to each other because that's where people are actually finding stuff. Search for what you're drawing into Yandex Images and Google and see what sites come up. Why isn't your art on those sites? Newgrounds is a hole in the wall and DeviantArt has been long dead. They rarely come up in search results.

If you have other skills, that's also a good way to grab people's attention, such as making a game, comic, channel, streaming or using AI to do something new people haven't seen before. At the end of the day, it's not the porn that's really important it's being a parasocial entertainer people enjoy being around.

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