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Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues, and particularly help in escaping the NEET lifestyle, but this focus is not exclusive. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
* Intentionally breaking these rules or the global rules will still result in a warning or ban.
* Rule 6 is enforced more liberally on /hikki/. Users may be banned from /hikki/ for inflammatory remarks in cases which might not result in a ban on other boards.
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I've been a neet for 4 years, and only recently has a family emergency made me terrified of how i've managed money up to this point. I've always lived in the moment and might have fucked myself over.

So, /hikki/:
-How do you split your neetbucks between savings and day to day living?
-How much recreationally spending money do you allow yourself?
-Do you worry about how easily any day an accident could ruin you? Any other advice?


1. I take money out of savings to live.
2. None.
3. All the time. Get a lot of money.

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To be hikkikomori is one of the highest forms of hedonism and selfishness. Especially if you rely on parents or flatmates for financial aid.

Some might contest that being a shut-in need isn't a conscious choice, that it's a result of environmental circumstances and mental illness, yet I still see people here who romanticise the lifestyle.

For a good few years, I have followed the culture of this board and others like it. I have seen the various IRC channels, discords and skype groups that have originated from this place, and I have come to the conclusion that this board ultimately promotes an anti-social attitude instead of discouraging and helping people abstain from it.

Most of you are lazy and are attempting to rationalise a piggish lifestyle.

Whaddaya think?
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>Human beings are naturally inclined to be social creatures

That's not true for everyone. I was diagnosed with asperger autism and was not able to cope with social situations throughout my life.

It's like asking someone to work in an asbestos contaminated building every day, even though it harms their health. It would be cruel and nobody would want to do something like that.

To ask a person who is in a mentaly unstable condition to look for a job and the like with the reason that others can too. It's like asking a blind person to watch the sunset with you.
Of course, the blind man will never see again, whereas a human being affected by the psyche can still recover. But to tell someone he could if he only wouldn't be so lazy and would try, is like denying the blind mans blindness.


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Well, I had to coax it out of you, but there it is. The diagnosis of, "aspergers", is now being subjected to large amounts of scrutiny. It's not even in the DSM anymore. Regardless, aspergers isn't debilitating enough to prevent someone from getting a job, especially after they learn social customs and figure out how to imitate them well. Didn't you go through any behavioral training in school? If you were diagnosed, it seems like that would have been the case. You aren't blind, you have blurry vision and need to find the right type of glasses. There's life coaches for that. At least start going outside more. Take walks. If you spend time around people, you will get more comfortable with it. No progress will ever be made if you actively avoid others because you're not good at interacting with them. Practice practice practice. What's the worst that can happen? You wont literally die from an awkward social situation. If you go to the library or a convenience store, some place where the interaction is very predictable, paper or plastic, do you want the receipt, cash or credit-card, that would also be a good start.


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Then why do you frequent /hikki/? Self-pity? Relatable feels? It seems clear you aren't actively trying to improve yourself in a significant way, with the things that do require a semblance of effort being shrugged off with excuses.
Don't take this the wrong way, i just want to know why the average person browses /hikki/.


Why are you assuming that all NEETs lack social skills? This might be a common occurence on this board but this doesn't necessarily hold true for everyone.


There is a reason i frequently used the term "Hikki/NEET" and not just "NEET".
On the list, i used 0) and 0.5) because they vary from people to people.

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Who here has found inner peace with themselves while being NEET or Hikikomori??.
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but what if caring IS a fault
isn't what's a fault and whats not subjective anyways?


That's a pretty interesting point. In my opinion, while what a flaw is may be arbitrary, nobody is without fault. I think that people should at least acknowledge their own faults, and if not try to improve himself, at least not be totally, "at peace", especially when their faults objectively create a burden for others.


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Yep, We(royal we) sure do. Found inner peace while watching The Big Lebowski on MXE in 2013 and decided to become a Dude. My room is my Dudedom and here we reign supreme.
We've tried at various times to un-NEET myself, but keep failing. I'm perfectly happy leaving my mark on the world through shitposting alone, and I'm pretty good at it. Existance is comfy. Fuck the bozos yo


Why is pepe drinking a warm cup of piss?


>not drinking warm piss

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Curious: Would you describe yourself as more of a NEET, Hikikomori, or a very reclusive Freeter?
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Most of that stuff only happened in the novel. The show ends on a hopeful note.


I'm a NEET. Spring 2016 I had been working as a server at an Italian Restaurant. I was a horrible server and hated doing it. You have to remember too much on the fly and that is not my forte. I once told some Hindu's that what they wanted to order didn't contain beef… only to find out after they had eaten half of it that it did. Another time a lady looked over the whole menu and told me she wanted cheese lasagna. I go back to the kitchen and find out we don't serve cheese lasagna (now I thought it was weird when she ordered that because I had never seen it or had anyone order it before, but why would you look over the whole menu and then ask for something not on it?). It also stressed me out way to much, and I decided that I couldn't work somewhere that I constantly dread going to. I quit in February.

I lived the neat life for about 6-7 months and in October I finally got a job (after much stress and dragging my feet) at a Dollar store. Shitty, hated it. Then March of this year me and a friend get the great idea to drop everything and go to New Orleans to busk. I just stop going into work with no explanation.

Busking is making us no money, we are competing with full brass bands on the street corner and all he has is an acoustic guitar. I try to offer tarot readings and some simple energy work, but I have stiff competition as well. We give up on that and it turns into an extended vacation where we both blow through all of our savings. Now I'm back in my hometown with my parents with no want to get a job. I haven't even been back a week, and I don't know if it's just paranoia, but I can already feel the tension in my household since I'm jobless. I want to work with energy and the occult for a living. I understand it, I'm good at it, but i need to practice and study more. I don't think people really are taking me too seriously with this, or they don't believe it will work out for me. This is what I want though, I don't know how I will make it work but I just need time and I wish people understood that.

Ive done that with job applications before. Or hidden them. Fall 2015 i enrolled in community college. I did so bad I didn't even look at the grades after the first semester, I just assumed I failed all the classes. I had also assumed that since I failed all of the classes I wouldn't be eligible for the classes I scheduled for the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


To me you seem like the kind of guy who likes to work on their own time and can't handle stress or responsibility very well. Let me be totally honest with you, knowledge of the occult is not a marketable skill. Literally nobody actually needs it. It's lower than knowing how to do magician tricks. You should be a writer. If you don't think you can write, learn how to because trust me, the occult can not give you a real job. If you were a writer though, you could indulge in whatever flights of fancy you want. If I could, I would be time-traveling secret agent, but that's not a real thing just like how wizards or demon summoners or whatever the fuck aren't real. Deal with reality, don't reject it.


>I once told some Hindu's that what they wanted to order didn't contain beef… only to find out after they had eaten half of it that it did. Another time a lady looked over the whole menu and told me she wanted cheese lasagna. I go back to the kitchen and find out we don't serve cheese lasagna
Everyone makes mistakes like that, some are just more reluctant to admit it than others.


>Curious: Would you describe yourself as more of a NEET, Hikikomori, or a very reclusive Freeter?

Hikikomori been one for 10 years almost 11.

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So I've been a hikki NEET since May 2015 or so, but that's gonna change in about 3 weeks.

I know 2 years isn't that much compared to most of you guys, but I'm scared. My already mediocre social skills have probably taken a hit since then, so I don't know how will I react around people etc.

These 2 years have been fun in the end, even though I've hardly done anything relevant at all. But now's time to be a member of society again and I'm not sure I can handle it.

I'll be studying software engineering if anyone's interested.

Has anyone here gone through something similar?
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It's always good to have some backup-money that could get you through a month or two if the worst case scenario occured (like, say, you lose your job or your car breaks down, similiar to that)
But if you got enough money you can try out new things! Go travel or buy books about new topics you don't know much about, just to see if it interests you.


I went on a trip to Seattle recently, I felt happy just wandering around the streets. First time I had felt that way in a long time


OP here - once again.
Some days I just feel like quitting, I can't really stand dealing with people 5 days a week.

But I also know that I should get used to this since it will be the norm from now on. I'm not sure I miss my NEET days, but deep inside I know I don't want to go back. I do miss having all that free time to just to whatever and not worry about anything, though.

For people on a similar situation, try what this poster said. I can't say I'm the most popular guy, but at least I'm not completely alone either.

It's very interesting to hear your stories, please keep them coming.


I've noticed in the first few months of having the job that my bad social skills had taken a hit in the 3 years I'd been NEETing. There were little bits of fairly toxic behavior that I didn't really notice until about a month ago and I decided that I would simply do better.

I'm slightly better socially now and even online I seem to have eliminated a lot of the stuff I was prone to (part of the reason why I decided to start isolating myself in the first place).

The biggest problem I've got now is figuring out what the fuck to go back to school for, and also to figure out how to cut back on some of the bad habbits that I had while a NEET so I can wake up earlier despite having to work until late at night.


Do you have any idea of what you want to do, or not do?

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Why are people proud of being neet? Why do they boast about being neet?

I've been neet for 7 years and have never been proud of it or thought it was worth telling others about.
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>I believe that politics are relevant here when they're used to justify neetdom. Neetdom is very much relevant to this board.
You would have a point if you were at least discussing politics related to neetdom, but you are just arguing why socialism is shit (and before you shoot me, I agree, it's shit) with other anon who hates the idea that we humans are humans and things never come free. If you are derailing a thread and going completely off topic, and specially with politics, you two would better go discuss this to other place where sperging about the same things again and again ad nauseam isn't a bother the rest of the site (just look at how many people are bitching about it already).
It's not that we don't care about politics, it's that this isn't the best place to discuss them because they're not even in the spirit of this place. Yes, /n/ was always shit, but we had more activity on the past and it didn't matter much. Now, when an autism battle hijacks the front page, it isn't as cool.


I know it sucks that threads are being filled with politics, but its mostly just one guy whos baiting because he got banned from a political board that was linked to from here. The best thing to do wold be to just not respond to him.


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I was never proud of it. Because if i would be someone who insisted on having something to be proud of, then I would not have become a NEET.
If i would be a person that highly values the opinion of other people over his own and therefore prefere to work and to be respektet in society instead of doing what i really want to do, i wouldn't have become a NEET in the first place.


>getting up at half past 7
get on my level, my clock bells at 5 am


You should be proud of how honest you are with yourself. By the way, what do you like to do anon?

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Who else gets social anxiety from buffet tables? Every time my family drags me to a shitty hotel, or a shitty cruise, or a wedding, or a bar mitzvah, or any kind of group event, I always dread the buffet. I just want to get seated at a table, have a guy come to me and ask what I want, bring me what I want and go away. I don't want to stand up, and grab a plate, and worry about looking like I don't know what i'm doing, and spend a bit a of time just looking everything over before put like two tiny portions of bread and pasta just so that I can get it over with as fast as possible. Not only that, but the whole format seems so wasteful to me. Just to save some money on man power they'd be willing to let so much food go cold and go to waste? Never mind if they would dare to warm food up multiple times. Actually good buffets are already bad enough. I'm not alone on this, right?
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A plethora of choices, freedom to pick whatever you want, and y'all want someone to wait on you hand and foot instead? How lazy can one get?


>more hikki
Hikki's don't even leave their house.


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For a long time technological innovation was forwent in favor of salve labor. Why build a sewage system when you could shit in a chamber pot and throw it into the street? Why build an automatic fan when you could just have a slave boy operate one from the corner of the room? Romans had sewage systems and yet for hundreds of years after people chose to just rely on the easiest option. Those are the depths of human sloth. So ya, that's how. At least i'm not thaaaat bad. A menu gives me choice enough. Once I pick something I like to live with decision and indulge in that one thing. I'm not a sample kind of guy anon.


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Hi, /hikki/. I've been lurking around on here since about 2013 and I really didn't have too much to ask about since I know my more internal problems suck, but they are also more of something that I can fix myself if I try. More to the point I guess, I decided to finally post because I have had my first paying job in three years. It's in retail, and I've been working there since November last year. At first I was relieved to get a paying job, but I learned soon that I just dislike the work and the environment. It's a department store, and I pretty much guard the fitting room area and I have to count the garments that people want to bring in. I'm not a very extroverted person, and I have a few diagnosed mental disorders. Sometimes people come over to try stuff on and they show clear disdain for what I have to do. I still do my job, but I've had many customers act incredibly finicky and rude about me having to check the items they have. Not only that, but some people will complain about things I won't let them do, like not bringing shopping carts into the fitting room even though there is a very noticeable sign that says people can't. I get along with my coworkers well at least, and most of my bosses are also nice. But I'm just tired of dealing with mostly middle aged women in yoga pants with makeup caked onto their faces, complaining about me doing what I'm supposed to do. I've had a breakdown already at work during the holiday time when some bitch refused to let me hand her each garment as I counted them. I used to work at a summer camp as a counselor, working with elementary to middle school aged kids. I got along with most of them and I used to let them watch me draw and I'd give them advice on school and growing up. The camp itself was kind of poorly run though, and when some of the kids got bullied, no one seemed to report it except me. There were also times when other staff were watching stuff on their phones and not interacting with the kids. Despite all that, I actually liked that job more when I look back on it, because I felt useful and that I was helping to contribute to society by inspiring kids to think about their futures and for them to grow up to be good human beings. Now I just feel that I made a mistake accepting my current job. I'm 19 and I still live with my parents. I've talked to my mother about finding another job at an afterschool program or another camp, and leaving my current job on the best terms that I can. She told me that I shouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Salem? Really? How's it feel to live there, particularly on Halloweens? I almost went last Halloween but decided against it. I just live in one of the bumfuck small towns relatively near Boston.


I live on the outskirts, close to Lynn. I have easy access to downtown via the buses, but around October I typically stay in my house and do stuff by myself. My house and yard are cool I guess, but the surrounding areas are fairly disgusting. I can also see the fucking Walmart sign from my place which doesn't help. The forest areas behind it are nice though. Most of the shops downtown except for the tourist traps are pretty sweet. The harbor is also a nice sight in warmer seasons. People make a big deal out of Halloween because obvious reasons here, but honestly come time for the Fourth it's basically the same but without the costumes. I'd say the best time to go would be the spring or summer.


Oh yeah, and the local comic shop sells some animu stuff but unless you're a basic weeaboo or a hardcore mecha fan, it really could be better. I wish they had Touhou merch, that would be cool.


Th-there's no local comic shop in my town. This place has absolutely nothing except for a decent pizza place.


dump your mom and do what you see best.

if you really want to work, then I suggest you look for a job (literally any kind of job) that would make you happy. there are online jobs, jobs that require no human contact, and jobs that are a living hell. choose one that you enjoy.

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