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The rules have been updated, effective immediately. Please review them. Specifically rules 6, 7, and 8 have changed or been added, and two guidelines have been removed.
Updated again to ban political ideology and imagery completely.

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From now on, the >>>/rec/ board should generally be used for conversations about recovery from NEETism. This is not a hard rule but you are likely to have a better experience.

Seeing as absolutely everyone misread the /hikki/ rules sticky and used it to draw apocalyptic conclusions about the death of all that was good about /n/, here's a less flippant sticky with less room for ambiguity, in the form of a Q&A. We've also made some concessions based on your feedback in thread >>13, which was moved to /sugg/ for being meta.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?
On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding NEETism, Hikikomoriism, anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living, and things closely related to these topics. If you're content with being a NEET at this stage in your life, that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so. The board's primary focus is self-help and advice regarding these issues. Despite rumors, threads looking for help with suicidal feelings or drug addition are also allowed.

What is not allowed on this board?
* Encouraging others to become NEET.
* Attacking or discouraging others for being NEET.
* Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the NEET lifestyle.
* Encouraging or showcasing drug usage.
* Announcing your planned suicide. Call a hotline or something just don't do it here or it becomes my legal responsibility.
* Helping others to plan or commit suicide.
* Topics not related to the purpose of the board. Such topics will be moved.
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I wanna know if anyone here has completely given up on finding a partner. I feel like maybe accepting the forever alone lifestyle could bring some comfort and maybe happiness into my life. Maybe im too weird and fucked up, and giving up hope is the right thing to do. Thoughts?
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What's worse, being alone or being in a relationship you don't want, but are afraid to end because you can't stand being alone?


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If being alone is really scary for you, then it's like a slow burn down that makes you reconsider your choices in life and why you can't bond with others. But in my opinion, being in a relationship you don't want is far more mentally taxing and burns you way faster.

You might long for human warmth, but if said warmth is so hot it burns, you might as well keep your distance.


I've never been in a relationship to know. The idea both excites and scares me though, I doubt I'll ever find someone that is both understanding of my past and also wants to date me in the first place though.


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this was made by an ironic weeb normalfag funnily enough.


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I also just want to point out that he edited out the original artist's signature in order to replace it with his reddit username. Because apparently he deserves more credit for spending 10 seconds adding some text to an image than the artist deserves for spending a lot of time and effort painting it. Kinda pisses me off, honestly.

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Hello everybody, I just find this forum. It's been almost a year since I became a NEET. I tried for a few months to go to college but it did not work. I wonder what people like me think about the future. Do you think we can go on like this forever? Well, I have no ambition, and I think things will never change. Do you wanna change?
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Call them. You can do it. Don’t let your fears get the best of you. If it doesn’t go well you can just leave and try something else. I assure you that you will feel better after calling than if you didn’t.

I was exactly like you before, so alike that it hurts to read your post. Also a neet for two years. I used to believe working wasn’t for me, that I would be embarrassing awful at all the tasks and schedules, and just thinking of having to deal with people I didn’t knew scared me so much. Some months ago I finally got tired of feeling like shit and accepted to work on an acquaintance’s office. I was overwhelmed at first. I didn’t even have the courage to answer the phones for a long time, and would stutter when talking to people. Faced so many embarrassing situations. I eventually got used to it, gained experience, and started to be able to chill my insecurities. I still do embarrassing things sometimes but I have learned not to worry about it so much. The experience changed me, and I can even say this change affected other areas of my life for the better.

Just do your best to overcome the challenges you’ll face at work, and don’t feel intimidated when things go wrong. You already have motivation so use it to push yourself into doing what you want. I won’t lie, it will take some time to learn what to do and how to deal with your negative thoughts and feelings. Keep your perseverance at high. Even if you end up sucking at the job, remember you still gained some experience with it and you are now ready to do even better at your next one. I wish you good luck, anon. If I managed to do it, you can too.


Please call them. The best you can do is the best you can do. The best you can do changes when you make a mistake. If you don't call them, you won't learn how to do better.

>But if I could be NEET forever I would, because less people can hurt me if I stay away from them.

I used to be a NEET for a while for this very reason.

Now it's been a few years.

Now I think, "less people can love me if I stay away from them."


It takes a toll on one's mind and body not to do anything for an extended amount of time.
Long story short, I had an incident one time when I went outside. A life changing, broken bones sort of incident. And it made me fucking paranoid to go outside again. I just want to stay inside constantly, but fuck, I also want to enjoy life. I don't want to be a miserable douchebag with no aspirations, I want to enjoy myself.
However, I'm literally scared of everything. So back to feeling shit and being a NEET I go.


I feel this to be true.
I've been NEET for 7 years now and I feel blessed for having time work on hobbies, learning things and a whole lot of procrastination without really having to worry about the future.

When I was still being push to become something and work on some kind of schedule it made me insanely unhappy each time and I basically never got along with more people at those places either.
If being a NEET isn't destroying you mentally somehow I'd say you should savor it as long as you can, because for most people it will only be a phase in life.


I've been a NEET since 2011, following a suicide attempt partially due to university at the time. I've done nothing ever since, I've made a few attempts at getting back into uni but they've all failed so far. I'm thinking of getting a certificate III in something or maybe even a diploma if I'm capable.

I've wanted to change for a long but my only real motivator for that died a few years back and I've kind of just been floating ever since. I've tried talking to friend and family about it but they don't seem to understand, take me seriously, I struggle effectively opening up or all three of those. I do like the idea of helping people, especially teenagers and new adults figure things out and to avoid them ending up like me, a decade after graduating high school and having achieved nothing. My social anxiety and other mental issues will be a big problem with doing that though, since I barely know how to talk to people properly besides my grandparents and friend or saying basic shit to cashiers while getting served. While I guess I could have fucked up worse, could have gotten on drugs harder than weed, had a bunch of kids I couldn't look after or get an STD or something on par with those, I still feel like a major fuck up for the past decade of absolutely nothing. It's to the point that I have dreams about getting a similar job to my cashier job I had in high school and going over how I fucked that job up, but as an adult this time.

The decade of NEETdom has kept me back, like time while physically continuing feels like it should have stopped at one point. One way I look at it is from console generations. I graduated high school in 2010, the peak of the 360 and PS4, not those consoles are gone, the Wii store is gone, the servers for games I heard were coming out soon are closing and it feels like I just blinked, the consoles that replaced those consoles will be gone soon to.
The three main things I've considered studying to help get me a job is:
Cert III in Health Services Assistance - basically become a hospital orderly
Diploma of Nursing - become an enrolled nurse
Bachelor of Accounting - become an accountant
The bachelor degree will take at least three years to complete though, while the other two are between 12-18 months. This was a mess of a post. My bad. In short, I'm not happy and I'm trying to fix that.

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I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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Become a mod but get paid for it.


>cant draw
>havent written a line of code since college (very basic stuff)
>terrified of human interaction
>only good at games where boosting isnt a thing
>not good enough at those games to actually win money
where does motivation come from and how do i get some


>T-shirt designs

I made my first sale on Redbubble today. Got $2.89 US



They banned me for posting a pepe shirt which is retarded because the whole site is filled with halfchan memes.


Try NoFap and/or a dopamine detox.
Pepe is banned because he triggers Jews.

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I've been a neet for 3 years, and my concentration and memory is dog shit now. I' m getting tired of this lifestyle, but it also feels impossible to move on. How can I study properly now? Or be trusted not to fuck up at work? I hate how I basically made myself retarded.

Even when I was in school I asked stupid questions/made stupid mistakes that would make people give me 'are you fucking stupid?' looks. They always say there's no such thing as a stupid question, but it's just lip service. I'm tired of people's judgement for being slow, especially if I'm around others and can't think properly because people make me so nervous. But I also want to do something worthwhile with my life.


Well, if you're able to keep your grades up with lots of effort, then it is just a matter of getting past the judgements of others. I've personally delt with a lot of imagining that people are criticizing me silently, and I have come to the conclusion that it's bullshit and people don't work like that. Even if you do get looks it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things so long as you're working to get where you want to be. People won't care if they thought someone in their class was stupid once they get home.
Studying can be difficult if you've gone a long time without exercising your brain, but it's just something you need to build up. Learning something logic related like math would probably help. Don't fall into thinking you can't because you're stupid, the brain is built on effort.
As far as work goes, so what if you're the squeaky wheel? What are they gonna do, fire you? If you're just getting a job, you're probably not working with nuclear reactors. Minor fuckups don't matter. Just make it to work on time, communicate enough to get the job done, and try your best.


What have you done in those 3 years you think it were so detrimental? Even games and watching anime requires some level of concentration.
>try your best.
That's it pretty much. Pick the subject matter you want to study and start reading about it. Not much else you can do I guess.


I don't have anything to add to OP but I would just like to say my memory problems are becoming really scary for someone my age late 20's but damn it has gotten bad. Any remedies would be much appreciated. Hope you are doing well, OP, and everyone else

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What are your MBTI types, /hikki/ ?

I recommend taking a few different tests and understanding what each letter means. I'm also guessing that most people here are INxx

Some people discredit MBTI, but I think if you treat it a a rough guideline, it can offer some good insights to yourself and others.

INTP wasted-potential masterrace reporting in
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I get ENTJ a lot and occasionally INTJ


I used to get INTP/INTJ when I used to do those tests.


I can never be honest with these tests because I know the actions and the feelings I have right now are temporary. This is just a form of mine that can be better. It's not like DID its more like this form of me isn't a person I would want to present to other people because I'm not really being myself.


I fear taking these kinds of tests because I'm afraid if I get a 'bad' result I'll obsess over it and limit my thinking because of some stupid test.


makes sense. Ps are more likely to live in their own heads. Js like to influence the world.

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Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?
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Comfy Neet and Sunny are the best neet youtubers.


Star-chan is the cutest!!!


>you would think they would be a bit more sympathetic and understanding because we are supposedly going through the same problems
A lot of unhappy people that aren't normalfags are like this for some reason and I never understood it. You would think there would be some kind of camaraderie or something but there isn't, just angst directed at the people you should be considering your friends.


Thank you for reminding me this is all I need to fix youtube's headache inducing redesign


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Only YouTuber I know who's NEET is inmendham, who's supposedly been living off of disability for an anxiety disorder, but that's hearsay as I don't actually know much about his personal life. His videos are oddly comfy despite his pessimistic philosophy and aggressive attitude, although I find them redundant nowadays. Still an interesting guy, been around since the earliest days of YouTube and the internet in general, even maintains a nice and shitty web 1.0 site where you'll stumble upon his nudist/exhibitionism section if you click around too much. Now more active talking about physics on his DraftScience channel especially since google keeps giving him strikes on his main.

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I'm just trapped in an endless swirling antlion pit of worthlessness, what do I do?

I've been socially isolated and excluded from having friends ever since I was a little kid because I have debilitating ADHD, depression, anxiety, autism ect.

After barely scraping through highschool, I managed to move out of my abusive parents' house into a shoddy bedroom rental in a house full of real creepy normie cis dudes. At this point I somehow managed to make a girlfriend online because we're both NEETs and after a couple years of dating and mailing my stuff to her house in boxes because moving services aren't affordable, and finally took a plane to move in with her.

We've lived together for about two years now and she's the light of my life and the only reason I haven't offed myself. But after two years, dozens of resumes, and the fucking ocean of spaghetti I've spilled trying to hand them out, I still can't find work.

Her parents are nice enough to let me live here rent free until I can find work, but I've just become such a parasite. I don't know what to do. I'm trying so hard and the world refuses to acknowledge it. Help.


I think this post is more properly suited for /rec/

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Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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That's called love.


>Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.
When I was younger, I used to hero-worship internet friends and obsessively check for new things they'd post to forums. It would always be one person at a time. Thankfully, I don't think I ever made it obvious to them, and I stopped doing it.


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Very relatable, especially when I was younger. There have been figures on the internet with many niche hobbies that I've shared. When I was obsessed with these types of people, I eventually found alt accounts which were very easy to find. Of course those alts eventually lead to me finding their telegram handles, their steam, which directed to me finding their friends, which then lead to me finding even more about them. It was very embarrassing each time when I had to cut ties with all of these seemingly likeminded individuals on the net, because they thought I was some guy trying to "fuck up their life" by knowing all of this shit that was readily available online. There was only one special case where that didnt happen and I still talk to him today; but even then, when I archived and reup'd stuff he used to post online, he also got creeped out, but doesnt seem to care now


Any time I find a new content creator on Youtube that I like, I pretty obsessively read their old posts to get more of an insight into their lives. Especially if there's any insinuation/change that they might be gay. Finding "proof" of their sexuality is a huge payoff for me.

I've also combed through the entire social media history of my significant other and kept all the photos that I considered worth keeping. There's something very addicting about knowing everything public about a person, almost like consuming all the works of an artist.


this is normal, just be careful and don't date them. they're usually jerks.

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I have failed again it seems that I keep wasting a day away and then starting the work at the last moment, I have tried every reformation but it all makes it go worse I don't know what I can do to fix it, I dunno what gets into me in the day, I have no idea about why I made the decisions I made, what the fuck do I do? what the fuck can I do right now to ensure that I don't fuck up tomorrow morning? it's as if I am a different person, I really have no fucking idea anymore, everything I have tried has failed, I can't fucking give up.

I broke every vow I ever took over the past few years, I lied and lied whenever it was convenient

I was able to stop being a neet but I only ended up making my situation worse, I am trying to cover HS with homeschooling since I dropped out ages ago.

I have no idea what I should do I wish I was convinced in what I was doing but every fibre of my body wants to go back to being a neet, I have to cover up an years syllabus in 2-3 weeks if I don't wanna waste an year.

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