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What would your life look like if you lived exactly the way you wanted to? This question is based on something that I recently thought of and I'm interested in seeing people's responses.
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>All of that spiritual fucking voodoo shit is just a mental cop-out and crutch for people who can't accept reality. How is some religious ideology going to make somebodies life happier other than brainwashing them into thinking that they are supposed to be content even if their life is shit. You're acting like a typical missionary, preying on people's emotional weakness.

Not at all. I'm speaking from experience. I'm merely suggesting what has worked for me, not pushing anything on anybody, simply informing them of this option. You are welcome to criticize mine and suggest your own, but nobody is going to benefit from what appears to be mere ignorant aggression.

There is no brainwashing. Some call Buddhism a philosophy rather than a religion. You just examine your own actions, views and ideas and see how they bring you stress, dissatisfaction or suffering, and rework them or drop them. Meditation gives you the clarity to find insight into even the smallest things causing you stress. It is similar to your view you mentioned of removing unhappiness to find pleasure. It's very much a path that is your own choice, the teachings are a guide to help you make more informed choices, and are taken on confidence when you see that they make sense or have benefited you, rather than blind faith. If you have any legitimate questions about Buddhism or my own practice, I would be happy to answer.


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Oh yes, I should add that if your main exposure to buddhism has been schools such as Pure Land or Tibetan, then I can very easily see how you could see it as weird voodoo stuff. I don't fully understand those ones myself yet. Theravada on the other hand I have found to be much more down to earth and straightforward.

There is even secular Buddhism if you are really, really repelled by anything that can't be measured by science.


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I cannot erase my fear of the after life. I don't truly believe in it and I believe that I will cease to exist upon death, but I was raised by extremist parents that had strange beliefs. They ran the home like a church and believed they were the chosen prophets of the apocalypse. They pounded and preached fear tactics and control into my head every day as a child, sending me to sleep every night with screaming tapes of preaching about revelations and the horror and evil of the world which made me experience sleep paralysis every night and gave me an extreme fear of the dark and demons. I have schizophrenia and experience voices/hallucinations that come from "Hell", so I can never get over it. I've already tried committing suicide in that method except with more pills, didn't work. If I had access to a gun I'd have a hole in my head right now. My "Unhappiness" isn't a root that can be chopped, it was my cocoon and my seed.

I used to meditate all the time, sometimes all day and night. I didn't use it to solve my problems though, I used it for escapism and built my own fantasy world that I lived in with imaginary friends and family. I had to stop after my parents found out, because they believe that meditating opens a window for demons to enter and possess the body and haunt the house. I was really into it at the time and was still able to find some form of happiness even if it wasn't real. When my parents caught me my dad dragged me by my hair out of bed and forced me face down onto the bathroom floor and tried giving me an exorcism, full with holy water, screaming and punches, treating me like a demon. They will kick me out of the house if they find out I'm doing that again. Their words, "I won't let you do that shit under my roof." When I tried explaining how it was harmless they claimed the computer is possessing me and brainwashing me with sin and shut off my internet for a month. I don't have a door to my room my dad broke it in half so I can't risk trying that again.


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Are you able to go for strolls or walk around anywhere away from family? Walking meditation is an option, if so. Nobody has to know. You simply focus on your footsteps while looking ahead, ie. left foot up, left foot down, right foot up, right foot down. You can break it up into more detailed movements, too.

I seem to be seeing quite a few people saying their family thinks meditation = demons, lately.


Be making 7 figures a year, married to a 10/10 girl with 3 children, getting pussy on the side especially while on business trips, really nice apartment in a nice city, actually be respected instead of shit on constantly for existing basically.

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If I'm successful financially, I think I might create a NEET house, as a safe space where NEETs can move out of their parents house, become a virtuoso of what they're passionate about, and/or be counseled on how to actually succeed at life. Eventually though, they will have to either use what they've learned to get a job and move out, or contribute to the household (I suspect it'd mostly be the later, since it's the safer option).

What do you think? Can someone learn to not be a leech on society in an environment like this, or would this inevitably reinforce their dependence on others? Would you be comfortable moving to such a place full of NEET strangers, even if shit hit the fan?
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>>1843 here. Well, the whole thing would kinda be an interview process.

Want to make sure we have someone that jives with the small community and whatnot.
Also, want to make sure there are no major self destructive habits or…potential law enforcement issues.

I am in a position where…if things work out and we find someone that is genuine about the work and wanting to be a contributing part, I would not be above ensuring that this person is able to get to us if need be.

Call it a bleeding heart complex…but, I've stood by too many times in life while bad shit was going down; can't live doing that any longer.

Also, I'm an amazing cook–even vegetarian if you so choose–so I'd be doing all the dinner cooking on weekdays, and all the meals on weekends.

Just keep in touch on here or if, you're interested, we can strike up a conversation. I'm always up for meeting new peeps.


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I was thinking of doing something like this as well op. It will take me a couple years to get enough money, and honestly I'm not sure if anyone would go for it or not.

But I feel like it would be good to try. Many NEETs on imageboards have become my closest friends, and they and people like them don't deserve to live in bad homes.


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>>2420 here. Sorry for the delayed response and thank you so much for your offer. Did you have a good holiday?

As much as I'd love to join your community… I have a few commitments that I need to follow up on. If the offer is still on the table in two years or so, though, I'd be happy to take you up on it.

>Just keep in touch on here or if, you're interested, we can strike up a conversation

I'd like that a lot, Anon.

In any case, good luck!


Any updates on this?


And how do you find friends in here? I've been browsing imageboards for a while and I've never made any friends. I think that's mostly because I'm just a lurker.

discord: i want to die xd #1323

IF you have any nice server or just want to talk add me.

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I miss the NEET life I had…

> Current life in an apartment with girlfriend

> Have a job

But I'm still not happy. I feel I don't have enough free time. If I'm not working I have too little time left to sit down and actually enjoy a game, and when I don't do that I have to invest time in my relationship, and when I'm not even doing that, I have responsibilities to take care of.

Even if I have a job, I do NOT have money for myself, at all. When I was a NEET all my money and time was only for me, myself, and I. I don`t wanna go to work, I wanna sit down on my ass and make games and play games, but this lifestlye is long gone, no longer available. I regret some life decisions I made, I really, really wish I could still be a NEET.

Best scenario would be: Keeping my gf, become a NEET again, but this is clearly impossible.

Have you ever experienced regret from no longer being a NEET?
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>Art has this habit of attracting people who are broken or just a little off
God, yes. I love it.
Academia as well, in some circles.


no kidding you guys if dating is annoying, don't do it. i don't.

i love working?? but i only do so part time. i get bored and restless when i am not.


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im still neet losers! check me my mom got me this melon and cut it for me! haha


Why stop here? You were being creative a while back in those last few threads.


It's funny how well this connects with another thread where some guy brags about how he improved his life and left neetdom. Thanks for taking the time in your busy schedule to visit here despite the possibility of, "slipping into old habits". Honestly, keep the job, loose the girl. What's the point of some nagging nuisance who probably asks you to buy things and only puts out when she feels like it like she's doing you some kind of inconvenient favor. Your job may take a lot of time, but domestic time is golden and shouldn't be wasted on something that you don't enjoy. Can you seriously see yourself marrying her and being tied down for the decades to come? Imagine if you want a divorce. Think of all the money that will be taken from you.

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Please help me. I am do gay i cant stop buying male prostitutes but only if they are black.. my bank account is in the red my family hates me. IF ONLY I DIDNT BECOME A MEMBER OF GNAA(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)


Sei, could you please ban this edgy, prepubescent faggot from 4chan who doesn't understand the purpose of the /ot/ board?


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>Sei, could you please ban this edgy, prepubescent faggot from 4chan who doesn't understand the purpose of the /ot/ board?
This isn't the purpose of /ot/ either, my friend.

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Who are neets going to vote for in 2016?

Donald Trump is the meme candidate but Bernie is offering free shit which is good for neets like us.
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If I had a nickle for every jackass who has already said that. I will have a nice laugh when Trump wins and all of you are still here.


And I feel very, very sorry for all those unfortunate enough to not have an escape route from the inevitable martial law enforced plutocracy that would emerge from that government.


I don't know where you people get this from. It seems like 99% of people who hate Trump haven't listened to a word he has said.


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"dude weed/college lmao"

contemporary politics is kuso tire anyway, WHO CARES

t. angsty suburb teen from the 90s

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Hello, /hikki/.

For 2 years now, I've only went out the house for school, and even with school I don't hang out with people.

You see, I moved far away from my best friend. We were closer than peas in a pod, practically glued to each other.
We'd explore the city, have trips to the mall and explore abandoned areas in our school district.

Unfortunately, we had a falling out since I was an immature freshman, and took her for granted. I belittled her art skills and made fun of her obsession with a show. We made up, but I always felt guilty, she assured me I was alright, but due to circumstances that I can't share, I had to skip our exams, leave and move upstate, and never see her again.

Now, I've moved from Louisiana to New York, and 3rd-year high school bore no friendships for me, since I had so much regrets with how I treated her.
I couldn't be close to someone else after her, and I'd like some advice from you.
Please leave advice, Ubuu. I desperately need it.
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Thanks! That means a lot to me, actually. I appreciate your words ;w;

You're right.
I did need time to myself. I've been having delusions of having the 'perfect friendship' that you see on anime and TV, since I remembered our friendship is a weird, warped way. I can't even remember how I said goodbye, I only remember the thoughts that I've lost the only person who cared for me. I already cleared those thoughts away, but damn, those were terrible…

Reading the first post again, I sound like I'm looking for an ex-girlfriend or something. That's… Not at all good. If she read this, she'd be totally creeped out.
A new hobby is what I need.

What you've shared to me is wonderful, and will help me a lot. Thanks for the advice!


man you even write like an underage fag(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)




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If you're friend really would be creeped out by your genuine feelings than your relationship really did suck. People are awful. Also I can smell the adolescence bleeding from your posts about something as petty as losing a shit friend. Can't blame the young for acting it though.

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Hi all,

I posted a few times on the old board several years ago whilst I was NEET after dropping out of uni.

Just recently been made redundant and I am going to go through the NEET lifestyle again.

Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?



i dont know much about uk neets but what do you mean redundant?

what did you major?


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>Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?

Can you go back to university? Fight hard to graduate from a university. University has helped me greatly; I've met several important mentors and learned a great deal about socialization, fitness, programming, and drawing, just to name a few. I was a NEET in the past and now I have professional programming prospects.

Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend. It took me about two years from when I started attending to become what I consider to be a serious student, and I took summer school. It make take you a shorter or longer time.


>Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend.


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Did Economics before dropping out from LSE, too boring and workload was too much, I spent most of my time playing poker online.

I was in a job and they got rid of me because they were losing business so they paid me like £400 an said you're fired with compliments.

Last time I was NEET I lived with my parents and still had Unibux, now I've got barely £200 and the belt is tightening. Signed up for JSAbux tho.. $70 a week..

>>838 I would not mind to but I suppose you hit the nail on the head, I would probably attend and not graduate if I'm being frank. Besides that I couldn't fund the university and neither could my parents, who whilst employed are carrying loads of debt.

I've applied to some jobs… but no luck and when I look in the mirror I don't see much staring back..


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You can definitely go to a university if you are willing to make enough sacrifices. You can eventually get scholarship money in places you wouldn't expect if you are willing to make enough sacrifices.

Another thing I would suggest is studying some skill in your spare time. Any skill will work, but some are much better than others (e.g. it will be easier to find people willing to pay you to program than people willing to pay you to play video games). Then, later, after a few years, (this is the important part) figure out how to sell that skill for money.

I currently run a business selling chess lessons to (the parents of) elementary schoolers. I never thought I would make money from playing chess, and I certainly didn't start playing chess with money in mind, but there it is.

You might be surprised to find out what skills you already have if you look inside yourself and what you can sell. I can't give you any specific formula because I was randomly lucky.

However, I can tell you that you don't need to study any one skill exclusively to sell it. My current work is an amalgamation of varying levels of skill at social networking, social skills, dress sense, willpower, physical fitness and attractiveness, punctuality, marketing, teaching, public speaking, awareness of my surroundings, computer skills (yes, really), design (yes, really), and chess ability.

Some ideas* for A+ skills that you can apply to pretty much anything:
Learning (yes, this is a skill. it is at the top of the list on purpose)
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Hello everybody, I just find this forum. It's been almost a year since I became a NEET. I tried for a few months to go to college but it did not work. I wonder what people like me think about the future. Do you think we can go on like this forever? Well, I have no ambition, and I think things will never change. Do you wanna change?
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I've been NEET for almost two years. I've realized that I'm completely terrified of people in almost every way. I keep applying to jobs because my family wants me to do something. But I got hired for one, wasn't told of a schedule change before my first day, and then decided they didn't respect me enough and I'd probably have a bad time there. So I walked away from that opportunity. I applied for another job and I'm supposed to call someone back today. I don't think I can. I don't think I can work. I don't know what to do anymore.

So yes, I would like to change. I just want to be happy and not feel ashamed of being a loser. I want money so I can take care of myself. But if I could be NEET forever I would, because less people can hurt me if I stay away from them.

Thanks for reading, I needed to vent some frustration.


Call them. You can do it. Don’t let your fears get the best of you. If it doesn’t go well you can just leave and try something else. I assure you that you will feel better after calling than if you didn’t.

I was exactly like you before, so alike that it hurts to read your post. Also a neet for two years. I used to believe working wasn’t for me, that I would be embarrassing awful at all the tasks and schedules, and just thinking of having to deal with people I didn’t knew scared me so much. Some months ago I finally got tired of feeling like shit and accepted to work on an acquaintance’s office. I was overwhelmed at first. I didn’t even have the courage to answer the phones for a long time, and would stutter when talking to people. Faced so many embarrassing situations. I eventually got used to it, gained experience, and started to be able to chill my insecurities. I still do embarrassing things sometimes but I have learned not to worry about it so much. The experience changed me, and I can even say this change affected other areas of my life for the better.

Just do your best to overcome the challenges you’ll face at work, and don’t feel intimidated when things go wrong. You already have motivation so use it to push yourself into doing what you want. I won’t lie, it will take some time to learn what to do and how to deal with your negative thoughts and feelings. Keep your perseverance at high. Even if you end up sucking at the job, remember you still gained some experience with it and you are now ready to do even better at your next one. I wish you good luck, anon. If I managed to do it, you can too.


Please call them. The best you can do is the best you can do. The best you can do changes when you make a mistake. If you don't call them, you won't learn how to do better.

>But if I could be NEET forever I would, because less people can hurt me if I stay away from them.

I used to be a NEET for a while for this very reason.

Now it's been a few years.

Now I think, "less people can love me if I stay away from them."


It takes a toll on one's mind and body not to do anything for an extended amount of time.
Long story short, I had an incident one time when I went outside. A life changing, broken bones sort of incident. And it made me fucking paranoid to go outside again. I just want to stay inside constantly, but fuck, I also want to enjoy life. I don't want to be a miserable douchebag with no aspirations, I want to enjoy myself.
However, I'm literally scared of everything. So back to feeling shit and being a NEET I go.

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I'm sure many of you know this feel:

>Realize you need to go somewhere with your life or everything will end horribly when you least expect it to

>Attempt to get something done

>If not 5 minutes later, you are eventually hit by a varying intense level of depression while attempting to do whatever task you decided, as if by facing your life, you can no longer not face how you are feeling.

>end up going back to the computer to distract yourself from the pain after only getting 1 thing done if you are lucky.

For any former NEETs here, how the fuck did you get past this? I feel the more I force myself to endure the depression the more depressed I get and the harder it is to get shit done, as fucking pretentious edgelordriffic as that unintentionally sounds.


I've considered suicide.

There is no "getting past it" when there simply are no fulfilling alternatives.


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As a former NEET that put himself into a situation where I have to work now, a very long fucked up story I might make a thread about it one day. Getting something done least for me requires stuff biting at my ass and a sense of severe consequences if I don't do something.

The situation I am in at this very moment requires me to work but I put myself into this situation originally as a trade off to thinking I'd be getting something I want out of it which I no longer will so now I have to work even though I really don't want to and have to suffer through what I put myself into but I'm getting more done in my life than I ever have in 3 years of being a NEET. Getting out of NEETdom isn't sunshine and roses but once your out it's almost impossible to get back into least with my case. In reality I don't care for a paycheck or other aspects of what people call a "normal" life expect one thing which makes me think I was born in the wrong time but I do feel a little bit better that I've come such a long way in one year even for things I do not care for I feel I have more power over my life and other people's lives than I previously thought I had.

Even though I have will and motivation now because of all the bad stuff happening to me, I still get depressed and have the strong urge to end it all. I've never been in so much stress in my life but who knows it might be worth it eventually though my addictions are crushing me along the way and it seems the only thing that gives me hope is my addictions, I realize how fucked up that is but oh well.

tl:dr In short the best way to get something done is to act like or actually have a situation where there will be horrible consequences if you don't do it which for you there might be in the future that you over looked. Fear, envy, wrath and strife have driven people to do many things my advice might come of as irresponsible but in my own life I found that to be the only real thing to make me get anything done well that and my addictions.

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I'm not quite sure what compelled me to post this or what reminded me of this place, but this is the first time I've been on this imageboard in years, perhaps the last time being 2013-2014 as far as I can even remember my time as a hikki. I didn't post very much, and when I did, I made sure not to make a name for myself. I was a hikki for 3 1/2 years, give or take based on what you consider the cut-off between NEET and hikki status. It's been nearly 3 years now since I left that lifestyle and ostensibly cured myself. Not to say I don't still have some mental abnormalities, but they're undetectable, both to myself and to others. I went back to college, graduated with a STEM degree and great grades. I applied for a job a couple weeks ago and am going in for an interview in a few days. I got a gf and lost my virginity last year, and now have a decently large friend group of very normal people that I blend in with completely, and sometimes don't even feel like an outlier around.

I don't mean to bore you with my life story – I just wanted to let you know that it is possible to get better and escape this lifestyle. I won't lie, I sometimes get brief pangs of nostalgia for the days of sleeping 15+ hours a day eating nothing but ramen and wasting all my time on the computer. But I feel okay now. I don't feel afraid, or anxious, or suicidal, or empty, or confused anymore. I feel healthy, I feel comfortable, I feel almost normal. Things can get better. Not just for me, but for you. It's not easy, and I've learned over the years to not try to offer what worked for me as advice, but I just want you all to know that it is possible to get out of this. The world is beautiful unobscured by depression, anxiety, fear, depersonalization, etc. I care about all of you and I want to see you all do good. I won't be sticking around for long – I don't want to reinforce long-dead habits – but I hope one day you can all join me. I love you all. Good luck my friends.
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hikki =/= NEET though.


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good for you OP, thanks for remembering us, offering perspective, and letting us share in what for you was victory. i am glad that you achieved your desires.

>no true hikki would ever ____

argumentum ad populum, a purely emotional argument, used in an effort to regulate the hikki/neet community.

>OP's hubris

this deals little with the actual content of the post; given that, according to the sticky, one of the board's primary focuses is advice about "help in escaping the NEET lifestyle," one would think that the input of the ex-NEET/ex-hikki would constitute a valuable contribution to discussion. to the extent that what he wrote is true, his post does offer some degree of perspective on the NEET/hikki experience.

am i wrong?


best post on uboachan [SOURCE: 8 yrs lurker]


I'm a word smith.


I am happy you made it and glad that it turned out so good for you OP. May your happiness be forever for you and your family.

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