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 No.836[Reply]

Hi all,

I posted a few times on the old board several years ago whilst I was NEET after dropping out of uni.

Just recently been made redundant and I am going to go through the NEET lifestyle again.

Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?

Cheers.

 No.837

i dont know much about uk neets but what do you mean redundant?

what did you major?

 No.838

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>Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?

Can you go back to university? Fight hard to graduate from a university. University has helped me greatly; I've met several important mentors and learned a great deal about socialization, fitness, programming, and drawing, just to name a few. I was a NEET in the past and now I have professional programming prospects.

Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend. It took me about two years from when I started attending to become what I consider to be a serious student, and I took summer school. It make take you a shorter or longer time.

 No.839

>Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend.
This

 No.840

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>>837
Did Economics before dropping out from LSE, too boring and workload was too much, I spent most of my time playing poker online.

I was in a job and they got rid of me because they were losing business so they paid me like £400 an said you're fired with compliments.

Last time I was NEET I lived with my parents and still had Unibux, now I've got barely £200 and the belt is tightening. Signed up for JSAbux tho.. $70 a week..

>>838 I would not mind to but I suppose you hit the nail on the head, I would probably attend and not graduate if I'm being frank. Besides that I couldn't fund the university and neither could my parents, who whilst employed are carrying loads of debt.

I've applied to some jobs… but no luck and when I look in the mirror I don't see much staring back..

 No.841

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>>840
You can definitely go to a university if you are willing to make enough sacrifices. You can eventually get scholarship money in places you wouldn't expect if you are willing to make enough sacrifices.

Another thing I would suggest is studying some skill in your spare time. Any skill will work, but some are much better than others (e.g. it will be easier to find people willing to pay you to program than people willing to pay you to play video games). Then, later, after a few years, (this is the important part) figure out how to sell that skill for money.

I currently run a business selling chess lessons to (the parents of) elementary schoolers. I never thought I would make money from playing chess, and I certainly didn't start playing chess with money in mind, but there it is.

You might be surprised to find out what skills you already have if you look inside yourself and what you can sell. I can't give you any specific formula because I was randomly lucky.

However, I can tell you that you don't need to study any one skill exclusively to sell it. My current work is an amalgamation of varying levels of skill at social networking, social skills, dress sense, willpower, physical fitness and attractiveness, punctuality, marketing, teaching, public speaking, awareness of my surroundings, computer skills (yes, really), design (yes, really), and chess ability.

Some ideas* for A+ skills that you can apply to pretty much anything:
Learning (yes, this is a skill. it is at the top of the list on purpose)
Willpower
Marketing
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 No.249[Reply]

Hello everybody, I just find this forum. It's been almost a year since I became a NEET. I tried for a few months to go to college but it did not work. I wonder what people like me think about the future. Do you think we can go on like this forever? Well, I have no ambition, and I think things will never change. Do you wanna change?
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 No.669

>>666
ありがとう悪魔さま

 No.788

I've been NEET for almost two years. I've realized that I'm completely terrified of people in almost every way. I keep applying to jobs because my family wants me to do something. But I got hired for one, wasn't told of a schedule change before my first day, and then decided they didn't respect me enough and I'd probably have a bad time there. So I walked away from that opportunity. I applied for another job and I'm supposed to call someone back today. I don't think I can. I don't think I can work. I don't know what to do anymore.

So yes, I would like to change. I just want to be happy and not feel ashamed of being a loser. I want money so I can take care of myself. But if I could be NEET forever I would, because less people can hurt me if I stay away from them.

Thanks for reading, I needed to vent some frustration.

 No.789

>>788
Call them. You can do it. Don’t let your fears get the best of you. If it doesn’t go well you can just leave and try something else. I assure you that you will feel better after calling than if you didn’t.

I was exactly like you before, so alike that it hurts to read your post. Also a neet for two years. I used to believe working wasn’t for me, that I would be embarrassing awful at all the tasks and schedules, and just thinking of having to deal with people I didn’t knew scared me so much. Some months ago I finally got tired of feeling like shit and accepted to work on an acquaintance’s office. I was overwhelmed at first. I didn’t even have the courage to answer the phones for a long time, and would stutter when talking to people. Faced so many embarrassing situations. I eventually got used to it, gained experience, and started to be able to chill my insecurities. I still do embarrassing things sometimes but I have learned not to worry about it so much. The experience changed me, and I can even say this change affected other areas of my life for the better.

Just do your best to overcome the challenges you’ll face at work, and don’t feel intimidated when things go wrong. You already have motivation so use it to push yourself into doing what you want. I won’t lie, it will take some time to learn what to do and how to deal with your negative thoughts and feelings. Keep your perseverance at high. Even if you end up sucking at the job, remember you still gained some experience with it and you are now ready to do even better at your next one. I wish you good luck, anon. If I managed to do it, you can too.

 No.790

>>788
Please call them. The best you can do is the best you can do. The best you can do changes when you make a mistake. If you don't call them, you won't learn how to do better.

>But if I could be NEET forever I would, because less people can hurt me if I stay away from them.

I used to be a NEET for a while for this very reason.

Now it's been a few years.

Now I think, "less people can love me if I stay away from them."

 No.791

It takes a toll on one's mind and body not to do anything for an extended amount of time.
Long story short, I had an incident one time when I went outside. A life changing, broken bones sort of incident. And it made me fucking paranoid to go outside again. I just want to stay inside constantly, but fuck, I also want to enjoy life. I don't want to be a miserable douchebag with no aspirations, I want to enjoy myself.
However, I'm literally scared of everything. So back to feeling shit and being a NEET I go.



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 No.416[Reply]

I'm sure many of you know this feel:

>Realize you need to go somewhere with your life or everything will end horribly when you least expect it to


>Attempt to get something done


>If not 5 minutes later, you are eventually hit by a varying intense level of depression while attempting to do whatever task you decided, as if by facing your life, you can no longer not face how you are feeling.


>end up going back to the computer to distract yourself from the pain after only getting 1 thing done if you are lucky.


For any former NEETs here, how the fuck did you get past this? I feel the more I force myself to endure the depression the more depressed I get and the harder it is to get shit done, as fucking pretentious edgelordriffic as that unintentionally sounds.

 No.419

I've considered suicide.

There is no "getting past it" when there simply are no fulfilling alternatives.

 No.421

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As a former NEET that put himself into a situation where I have to work now, a very long fucked up story I might make a thread about it one day. Getting something done least for me requires stuff biting at my ass and a sense of severe consequences if I don't do something.

The situation I am in at this very moment requires me to work but I put myself into this situation originally as a trade off to thinking I'd be getting something I want out of it which I no longer will so now I have to work even though I really don't want to and have to suffer through what I put myself into but I'm getting more done in my life than I ever have in 3 years of being a NEET. Getting out of NEETdom isn't sunshine and roses but once your out it's almost impossible to get back into least with my case. In reality I don't care for a paycheck or other aspects of what people call a "normal" life expect one thing which makes me think I was born in the wrong time but I do feel a little bit better that I've come such a long way in one year even for things I do not care for I feel I have more power over my life and other people's lives than I previously thought I had.

Even though I have will and motivation now because of all the bad stuff happening to me, I still get depressed and have the strong urge to end it all. I've never been in so much stress in my life but who knows it might be worth it eventually though my addictions are crushing me along the way and it seems the only thing that gives me hope is my addictions, I realize how fucked up that is but oh well.

tl:dr In short the best way to get something done is to act like or actually have a situation where there will be horrible consequences if you don't do it which for you there might be in the future that you over looked. Fear, envy, wrath and strife have driven people to do many things my advice might come of as irresponsible but in my own life I found that to be the only real thing to make me get anything done well that and my addictions.



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 No.3276[Reply]

Life story time
>Be 7 years ago
>18
>Have pretty OK life in front of me
>Suddenly start losing all motivation and sleeping more and more
>Be NEET for 3 years
>Finally get a part time job (cashier, though boss had me doing everything in the store)
>Start going to doctor thinking I was depressed
>2 years, 8 months of therapy, 25 different medications, $26,000 (after insurance) in doctor bills later
>At this point sleeping 16 hours a day and working the rest
>Occasionally dozing off during work and even while driving
>Doctor finally gives me CFS/ME diagnosis
>Tells me there's no treatment
>Gives me prescriptions for Adderall, Vyvanse, Concerta, Ritalin & Desoxyn
>They work great for a couple days before losing all effectiveness (even at max dose), takes over a month for tolerance to get back down
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 No.3335

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>>3326
It's far easier than you might be thinking it is. To start, all you have to do is just sit down and watch your breathing. That's all. You can have your eyes closed, or open if you're feeling sleepy.

Then all you do is keep watching the breath as it goes in and out. If you get distracted, you simply let go of the distraction and go back to the breath. The distracted mind is what you usually have, and it tires you out and gives you headaches. When you're only using your mind for the breath and letting go of everything else, the amount of energy you save and energy you GAIN is amazing. If a sense, in terms of whether to meditate or not, it's easier to meditate.

You're not sitting there striving for something. You're learning peacefulness, concentration and contentment by discovering what causes you even the most minute stress and how to notice and let go of it. Then as you progress further, those peaceful feelings just naturally intensify into complete bliss and ease.

http://www.dhammaloka.org.au/files/pdf/Ajahn_Brahm-Mindfulness_Bliss_and_Beyond-Chapters1-4.pdf
Here's the first few chapters of a very accessible beginner's guide to breath meditation.

http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writings/EachAndEveryBreath_v130123.pdf
And here's a more in depth one if anybody's interested.

 No.3360

OP here, quick update. Looks like my hopes came true sooner than I thought. My parents have told me to be gone by Saturday. So, I'm going to see how long I can make it living in the mountains.

Best of luck to all of you & good night.

 No.3362

>>3360
Oh shit, dude. Your parents are really going to kick you out for a medical condition? Look, buddy, find a relative or something. Don't you have any cousins or grandparents whose house you could stay at? Any friends who would be willing to take you in? Contact everybody you know. If worst comes to worse and you have to live in the mountains, do as much research as possible on how to not die out there. In the woods, a shelter does not mean house, it means place to sleep. There's my bit of advice when it comes to that. Man, that's really shitty. Don't drink still water, boil it first using rocks and a fire. I don't know how useful, it would be, but maybe this guy's videos can help?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA
There's annotations that can be enabled for more in-depth instructions. Ask if they'll give you at least a bit of money. Maybe you could use it to buy books on this stuff. Check back here often to see what other people have to say. There's still a chance that your parents will pussy out and let you stay.

 No.3363

Wow, you're fucked.

 No.3365

>>3360
Where are you located anon? I may be able to give you more specific advice depending on where you are located



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 No.3096[Reply]

I'm not quite sure what compelled me to post this or what reminded me of this place, but this is the first time I've been on this imageboard in years, perhaps the last time being 2013-2014 as far as I can even remember my time as a hikki. I didn't post very much, and when I did, I made sure not to make a name for myself. I was a hikki for 3 1/2 years, give or take based on what you consider the cut-off between NEET and hikki status. It's been nearly 3 years now since I left that lifestyle and ostensibly cured myself. Not to say I don't still have some mental abnormalities, but they're undetectable, both to myself and to others. I went back to college, graduated with a STEM degree and great grades. I applied for a job a couple weeks ago and am going in for an interview in a few days. I got a gf and lost my virginity last year, and now have a decently large friend group of very normal people that I blend in with completely, and sometimes don't even feel like an outlier around.

I don't mean to bore you with my life story – I just wanted to let you know that it is possible to get better and escape this lifestyle. I won't lie, I sometimes get brief pangs of nostalgia for the days of sleeping 15+ hours a day eating nothing but ramen and wasting all my time on the computer. But I feel okay now. I don't feel afraid, or anxious, or suicidal, or empty, or confused anymore. I feel healthy, I feel comfortable, I feel almost normal. Things can get better. Not just for me, but for you. It's not easy, and I've learned over the years to not try to offer what worked for me as advice, but I just want you all to know that it is possible to get out of this. The world is beautiful unobscured by depression, anxiety, fear, depersonalization, etc. I care about all of you and I want to see you all do good. I won't be sticking around for long – I don't want to reinforce long-dead habits – but I hope one day you can all join me. I love you all. Good luck my friends.
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 No.3184

>>3182
hikki =/= NEET though.

 No.3185

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good for you OP, thanks for remembering us, offering perspective, and letting us share in what for you was victory. i am glad that you achieved your desires.

>no true hikki would ever ____

argumentum ad populum, a purely emotional argument, used in an effort to regulate the hikki/neet community.

>OP's hubris

this deals little with the actual content of the post; given that, according to the sticky, one of the board's primary focuses is advice about "help in escaping the NEET lifestyle," one would think that the input of the ex-NEET/ex-hikki would constitute a valuable contribution to discussion. to the extent that what he wrote is true, his post does offer some degree of perspective on the NEET/hikki experience.

am i wrong?

 No.3354

>>3108
best post on uboachan [SOURCE: 8 yrs lurker]

 No.3355

>>3354
I'm a word smith.

 No.3663

>>3096
I am happy you made it and glad that it turned out so good for you OP. May your happiness be forever for you and your family.



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 No.3249[Reply]

Ay /hikki/
15 year old here.
Fuck it I hate everything and I'm tired of everything.
Long story short, I'm gonna become a neet next year.
Any advices?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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 No.3254

go outside and pet a dog kid

 No.3255

This is why condoms exist.

 No.3256

Lurk before posting and don't forget to go to bed early or mom will be mad.

 No.3257

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Can we shitpost in this thread Sei?

 No.3258

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AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaあああああ



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 No.3229[Reply]

hey so i was 3-months Neet at my mothers house until i got kicked out and now im at my jobs and got my current hours cut to just the weekends, i have going around town looking for any 'now hiring' signs to no luck. so my question for right now is what to do to improve my chances of getting hired/finding a job? Do I go to college and wait 4 years? do i go to vocational school to pick up a skill while i wait at college? do i just keep going at customer service/ retail jobs?

 No.3230

The first thing you could do is start writing properly. What do you mean by going to vocational school while waiting at college? If you go to vocational school, you aren't going to be waiting for college. The option you pick depends on where you want to be in life. Do you want a blue, collar job, or do you want a white collar one?

 No.3231

Create things and sell them on etsy or set up a patreon. Target businesses that you would like to work at and find out if they're hiring or willing to take on an apprentice.

 No.3232

>>3230
By vocational school i was talking about picking up a trade and then leaving to go back to college to get a higher paying job maybe do like>>3231says to make money the only thing that i need now is to find a way ti create something and sell it

 No.3233

>>3232
>the only thing that i need now is to find a way ti create something and sell it

So, the entire business, then?



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 No.3190[Reply]

I don't know if this is going to be a poor OP for a thread but I just became homeless and I really don't know what to do. I'm scared.
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 No.3212

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>>3211
I have a friend who pitched a tent in some deep woods for months when they were homeless. They just walked to town for groceries. It's workable, but turns out there are mountain lions so you don't want to go far from your tent. You also need to really know what you're doing to camp in the wild.

Building a house in the wild is technically possible but it could be discovered eventually. If you're in the US though and want to camp in the woods, look to the Bureau of Land Management's website for a map of areas falling under their jurisdiction. These areas, as I understand, are legal for anyone to camp in at any time as long as they don't build structures.

Really though do your research and do it well before going out deep. You should also do some test runs in less deep areas first to iron out any issues with your plans.

Also since OP has friends they should definitely try staying with friends before staying in the woods.

 No.3213

>>3210
That's a false analogy. Tell me how many people you've seen going to jail for downloading a movie and how many went for taking over a place and making an illegal house on it.

 No.3220

Ask about it on lainchan, they've got some radical homeless people there.

 No.3227

>>3212
Yes I've stayed with friends for the past few nights since I originally got kicked out of my place. My parents said I could come back but fuck that place. Right now I am talking to some people who are saying that they will bounce me around rooms at their college. There is also a wooded area nearby that I think I could feasibly sleep in need be, but I will have to check it out to make sure. The location is also PERFECT for finding work as it is literally right next door to a mall, and various other shopping plaza's.

My plan right now is to save up some money to get my own place, all the while looking for ways to make money online or through some sort of trade that would allow me to travel. Who knows if that will actually work though.

 No.3228

>>3190
I dunno if there are in USA too, but i live in Italy and we have a bunch of left-wing movements that help homeless people (not bums, usually immigrees or "normal" people who lost work or are in a similar situation to yours) to occupy places in cities like unused officies or similar, you can ask them! Sometimes the owner manages to make the police to make occupants leave, but this doesn't happen so often. Living conditions are almost the same as owned house ones, and you can have electricity and water because activists knows how to stealthy interlace with state distibution system. I can confirm cause i have friends living in occupied places. You can occupy houses even without those organisation's help, i know people who did it, but it is more complex and you have to be more than a single person, obviously.



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 No.3139[Reply]

tl;dr turning 20, was a neet starting 2013, got a taste of the good life last year, things fell out; lost job and got arrested, have no good job credentials and I'm losing my mind again living like a hikki in the middle of nowhere

First post here, bear with me. Let me start by saying I turn 20 in three days, and I live a few miles into the countryside next to a big city. Before July of last year, I was a NEET since my parents pulled me out of my junior year of high school. I got a job at Home Depot starting October of 2015 but my life was mostly restricted to work and homelife at that point. I tried networking with my coworkers but alas, it didn't go very far. I still don't have my driver's license, and HS homeschooling failed so no diploma. A bad weed experience and a bad DXM experience coupled with depression lead to some of the worst depersonalization I think I would ever experience and life was generally a depressing, chaotic mindfuck until midsummer last year.
Around July of last year, I started working out. I would also loiter in some public places like vape shops, and met my most recent best friend. I met some more people, some good, some bad like a few methheads and my ex gf, but overall I had a circle going. I was working out here and there still, was around friends and acquaintances, and even had a party here and there. I went over a year without playing any video games, got a tattoo, was meeting new people, unintentionally started NoFap, lost a lot of weight, smoked a lot of kush with good experiences, lost my virginity, got taken places like different cities by my circle, and while I lost my job due to the hecticness of my social life, I was constantly up to something and generally felt better and enjoyed life's adventures.
However, things started to crash around the beginning of the new year. Me and gf broke up, (not exactly anything bad tho kek) had a falling out at that time with my best friend, another good friend moved out of the city, and being jobless, I was left more or less broke. (I'd work temp work for some pocket cash here and there, but it's a pain in the ass to get on location and I was always left with less than $80 on any day.) I tried going back to school to give me something to do, but was arrested 3 weeks later after buying weed from someone there like an idiot, and was sent to alternative HS after I got out of jail on bail. The location was quite too far, and while I opted for a bus, the pickup time was wayPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.3164

>>3163
Thought I should mention I work as a computer programmer. I spent several years of my life to get here and now I almost want to work at pizza hut

 No.3165

>>3164
Actually I have no idea what my point is. What the fuck are my problems?

 No.3166

>>3165
I am an idiot

 No.3167

>>3163
It's gotten to the point (at least in the USA) where the costs outweigh the benefits. There are better avenues to progress to high income levels without the horrendous debt burden. It's only really worth it if you have someone else footing the bill (through contacts, grants, or scholarships, never fukken loans; those will ream you 50x over)

 No.3168

>>3159
Step one would probably be to get a minimum wage job somewhere until you can afford transportation. If you're living at home and don't really have rent/bills to pay, that's not as far out there as it seems. Even part time minimum wage would net you (provided you're in the US) at least $500/month, which would give you a decent down payment in about 6 months if you were putting some of it towards personal needs and food etc. Always test drive, and avoid "buy here pay here" scam lots. Might help to call up some local mechanics and see if any have specials where they'll look over a vehicle you're looking at, let you know what's going to need fixed or replaced in the short term, and give you fuel to use in bartering down the price. Usually you can get a dealer to take enough off after that to where it pays for itself, and it would steer you clear of any lemons. Then, it's simply fuel and routine oil changes, keeping a couple hundred in the bank in case of emergency repairs.

Once you have a car, you'd be able to expand your job search greatly and move up to something that pays better. A good start is call center work or data entry work, they don't require any advanced degrees, you can get full time of better-than-min-wage (tho not great, usually between $10 and $12/hr) with benefits, and network out from there to move up.

Source: School of Fukken' Hard Knocks



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 No.3123[Reply]

I'm no longer a NEET/Hikki after about 2/3 years and time began flowing completely different for me. Everyone said when you're at work and it's busy time flies but that's the opposite. It's like time is in a stand still. What feels like 40 minutes it only 5.

In general time feels so much longer now that I have things I have to do. An hour feels so long while I'm getting ready for work. I'm always early because of it. As a NEET everyday sort of blurred together and time went by extremely fast even when I mostly sat around doing nothing all day.

Does anyone else have something similar happen? It's been jarring for me since I thought I'd have no time to myself but now I can barely get through that time.

 No.3124

>>3123
I 100% know what you mean. I was a hikki for longer than I've been out of it, but all the years I spent as a hikki feel like probably 1/30th the time that I've been out of it. It was a really jarring transition because, when I was a hikki, time felt normal if not kind of blurry and mundane. But after maybe a month of having a job I noticed that my memory of all those years got extremely blurry and what felt like a few years suddenly felt like maybe a year at the most, and the longer time went on the shorter my time as a hikki seemed. My guess is that the life of a NEET/hikki has so little mental and physical stimulation, your memory only has so much to work with to form memories, which would also explain why time seemed so blurry and monotonous too.



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