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 No.6878[Reply]

I wonder if I'm neet because I was hopelessly depressed and antisocial or I'm hopelessly depressed and antisocial because I always acted like a neet, even as a student.
either way I can't really talk to people anymore, I just have meltdown after meltdown when trying to do so

 No.6883

I feel like some people are just born fucked.

 No.6884

I read somewhere that neuroticism (emotional instability) is genetically predetermined. May explain why some people are more prone to reclusion than others. They were just born weaker.

 No.6885

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>>6884
Modern epigenetics is currently trying to form a working theory around the interplay between how environment affects a person's genetics and then in turn how those genetics affect offspring. The hypothesis posits that environmental conditions which cause a mental state in a person can leave a genetic remnant on that persons genes which are then passed down to their offspring.
Meaning. If a person goes to war, comes back with PTSD, and then has children after having developed PTSD. Their children will in turn have a higher genetic probability of developing PTSD too.
The inverse is also true according to this concept. Namely, that a person who's father has PTSD, and then either fails to develope PTSD themselves, or developes PTSD but then works through it and mostly heals before having children will pass on a more positive genetic probability of developing PTSD to their children. Once you get a few generations down if each family member in a family tree overcomes the condition before having children their children will have virtually no chance of developing the condition barring another extenuating non-genetic environmental cause like a war.
All this means is that when we see people who come from horrible families they are not only environmentally disposed to bad mental health but also genetically disposed to bad mental health and often even intergenerationally disposed. There's a lot working against some people, and sometimes it requires grand environmental interventions to help them, and do to how fucked our cultures are in general this century that is increasingly rare.
The only hope, is that if you do make it out, you are actively removing bad traits from the gene pool. Genes are likely not static even within a person's lifetime despite previous scientific assumptions from the last century. They may be malleable things that change as we change.
Please no one take this as an argument for eugenics, it's not at all. Quite the opposite, empathy may help eliminate genes that are generationally traumatizing humanity. Moreover, people are not static predetermined things. People have a measure of agency to combat predisposed genetic probability and environmental influence too can make a worlds different. It's not some simplistic nature vs nurture, but rather an interplay of all causal interactions that make up a human being whether genetic, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.6888

>>6885
is this how they're planning to make the various heredity-vs-psychometrics infohazards compatible with or complementary toward Personal Responsibility as a concept? because it looks fine on paper but eventually you're going to have to explain why doing chin-ups doesn't make you taller

 No.6889

>>6885
>not some simplistic nature vs nurture, but rather an interplay of all causal interactions that make up a human being whether genetic, environmental, otherwise
In other words, nature vs nurture as described by someone who doesn't understand it
>empathy may help eliminate genes that are generationally traumatizing humanity
2broscience4me



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 No.6788[Reply]

You too can become a home designing hermit simply through playing this game.
Not sure if anyone really wants to take part but I thought it might be fun.

You can download it here: https://ryan-nein.itch.io/hermit-home-designer

It's simple:
1. Start designing
2. Share your designs here as you progress through the game
3. Reply to your own original/previous post so we can neatly see your designing skills

Notes:
- Sometimes creating, moving and deleting items will randomly affect your decor (an item placed above another item might randomly end up beneath it). Keep this in mind and try building slowly.
- The game at the end will allow you to revisit your designs so if you didn't screencap it, it isn't entirely lost.
- Closing the game will however delete all progress so be careful.

not the creator of this game btw, just a hiki who wanted to post and share it.
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 No.6801

>>6799
I have a FLCL poster I printed and put on my wall with tacks and a few "posters" I made myself and some nendoroids. (also got a few bootleg Doraemon figures) Forgot to mention I don't have a daki too sorry about that

 No.6803

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>>6788
I made my actual room irl. I dont think I would want anything more really.

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 No.6838

>>6788
Damn, the dialogue in this game is really good holy shit.



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 No.6625[Reply]

Antisocial makes it seem voluntary. It's not. I turned down a new friend because I'm terrified of social interaction. I hate myself. I wish I could go out but I'm confined to myself and my stupid social anxiety. I couldn't even hold a job for the whole summer because it got to be too much.

 No.6732

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social interactions fucking suck. as a matter of fact, most people fucking suck. after being betrayed by a couple of friends/family and going through 8 horrible jobs despite having a bachelor's degree, i can see why some people are driven to fedpost some victims.

 No.6809

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I gave in and posted somewhere else to add to the conversation and ended up fighting with some idiot and it ruined my day, I hate people so much. From now on I wont speak to anyone ever again and just isolate myself completely.

 No.6836

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>>6625
>I couldn't even hold a job for the whole summer because it got to be too much.
Goddamn, the same thing happened to me. I got a job and I was there for maybe 2-3 weeks before I lost it for missing a shift. Social anxiety, among other things, really screwed me over. And without insurance… fuck

>>6809
>From now on I wont speak to anyone ever again and just isolate myself completely.
I know how that goes, building stuff up like that to protect yourself. But remember that stuff will just let things continue as they are. My advice would be to look for treatment – if you're in the states and don't have insurance there are behavioral resources that can help you get on insurance which can backdate expenses, that's what I'm working on now.

>>6732
Now THIS is Antisocial.



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 No.6830[Reply]

I truly do not believe that my future has any light at all. it's made itself very clear over the years that my parents just don't love me. they don't care or listen to me. They say it's unacceptable for me to ever be a NEET/live in their house much longer. I don't know what i'm going to do next. I deeply resent society and I'm not interested in working or doing studies. i dropped out when i was 16 with no graduation. i turn 19 in february. i'm not good at talking to others in real life nor do i desire it. the thing is i'm very talented at multiple things, and i love making art, i share it online and am also part of online artist communities, it's truly one thing that motivates me to live everyday to create and also to help others. But seeing the state of this world and how people like me are treated, it feels tiresome and neverending. I don't want to waste my potential but i am just not made for this shit. Who ever thought bringing offspring into this shit world [school, work, maybe family, die, repeat] was a good idea? Sorry for the depressing post. I just needed a place to write out these words. I think i just need to isolate myself more and ignore them entirely. It's a waste of energy to talk to them.

 No.6831

OP here, my depression often clouds my thoughts and makes things seem worse than they are. I don't really want to change this lifestyle though,. It's the option that makes the most sense to me. That feels the least difficult while at the same time breaking free from what society expects us to do.

 No.6833

let it all out man

can i see some of your art (:

 No.6834

>>6833
thanks. It's mostly just video collage/music, i don't really feel comfortable with linking my accounts though..
i'm decent at drawing but still trying to get better. Maybe one day i'll get back to this thread and post some.



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 No.4199[Reply]

Any hikkis here figure out a way to make money without leaving your room and going outside??.
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 No.6577

>>4211

Online gambling is a scam. They adjust the odds in real-time so if you are consistently winning, they change the odds so you always lose in succession to lose most of your winnings.

I know this is a FACT because there is a trick to always win 100% of the time at roulette. If you tried it in a physical casino you'd be banned from entering. But when you try it online, the online casino game starts to act very strange.

 No.6578

>>4506

I applied to work with rev but their application form didn't work. There was no certification to pass. It expected me to submit the form with no changes as there was nothing to mark.

 No.6581

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>>6576
>makes bullshit claim
>doesn't elaborate or even say what the title is cause "muh NDA"
so you're either full of shit, or you're full of shit. got it.

 No.6779

weird seeing this thread from 2017 here post-COVID. yes, all computer programming jobs are now fully remote. I haven't left my house for work in 3 years. it's ok

 No.6808

>>6806
you got any experience using this, anon? what's the rate of offered surveys and the (actual, realistic) pay someone can expect to get out of it long term? being told $6.50/hr on the site is cool and all, but it won't really mean much if the average time you invest is too low.



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 No.6626[Reply]

Just left my house after a year, it sucked and now I have to restart my streak.

 No.6633

>>6626
I know how you feel

 No.6638

Hate it when that happens.



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 No.2809[Reply]

Any long-term / no experience NEETs want to share their stories? Or just your existence.

>23

>never had a job
>barely got through school
>haven't left the house in 5 months, haven't left the house for an actual reason in over 2 years
>haven't had a social life in 5 years
>No traumatic past
>no medical issues / disabilities
>not rich / privileged enough to justify or explain it
>not poor / struggling enough to be without internet, food, warmth, privacy

I'm in a really weird and shitty place at the moment. I'm constantly guilty, suicidal, apathetic, angry, scared, lonely, antisocial, bored, tired, and in a state of malaise.

I'm physically and mentally able. I can work, I can think, I can deal with people. Yet I'm a parasite.
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 No.6589

>>6588
I have 'only' autism and I have had pip/esa for 8 years with three reviews. I think the key to communicating your problems is provide copies of diagnosis papers and write to criteria on each point.

 No.6590

>>6589
Yeah, going in with all the information you can is essential. Won't stop them trying to put you in the ESA work related group for shits and giggles, though.

 No.6591

>>6590
It has for me so far. I want to stress that it is *vital* the paperwork is filled out thoroughly, with tons of evidence such as diagnosis papers, reports from psychiatrists/psychologists, any contact with care or related services. It also helps to have involvement with Citizens Advice. On the day of your assessment it's vital you don't mask and must present your difficulties in a bare and truthful way.

It is 60% detailed paperwork evidence, 30% filling in the application paper to tie your difficulties to the criteria and 10% baring all at your face to face (many people make the mistake of dressing up/masking for an 'official' event). Hope that helps.

 No.6596

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I've been told and diagnosed with issues, yet I don't agree with this assessment, for at least 5/6 years ive been a neet/hiki.
For the most part I don't mind it but sometimes it can be a pain, I wish others were able to understand.

 No.6624

I can share and I will share from the perspective of others as I have a poor ability to introspect and deny I have anything wrong with me. Sorry my english

I am NEET and hikikomori for a long time.
Medical issues are many but mental ones.
I am disabled according to the doctors and state so get looked after by people.
I do not desire anything more than this bed and some media to consume.
This includes relationships.

I try to make friend but shy away in the end only to vanish as it is not enjoyable.
Suicide also is something I think of a lot and have material to do so however but scared.
I get confused often about myself and the people around me.

Isolation has made me unable to relate to people even on the internet and in person there is no hope. I understand people but I do not find happy time in what they like.
Many years now on my own with my own thoughts and I do not know myself.

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 No.6530[Reply]

I will die alone.

 No.6532

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We all will

 No.6621

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Can't wait to.



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 No.6594[Reply]

I blocked almost all imageboards, forums, porn sites, discord and youtube from my router, changed the password to a random one hard to type one, and scheduled an email to be sent to myself with the password one mont from now.

For three days I have been cut from using the internet as cheap entertainment. I wonder if I should have cut music streaming sites too.

Seems like I missed blocking this site but it doesn't seem too active anyway so I'm safe.

Manga and books are getting a bit stale. Went through four of each.

I don't know what I'm going to accomplish with this. I'm curious if anyone has done this nosurf/nofap/whatever thing. I don't really care for the outcome.

 No.6595

>>6594
As you i've been fighting with all of the poison that the world of the internet had normalized, i can tell you from my experience that just virtually blocking the websites won't really help at all in the long term. A thing that has really helped me is thinking about my condition as a living and rational human being that has control over his actions, if i fall on watching porn or whatever thing that causes me danger it isn't because some strange possesion that's going over me, it's because i voluntarily wanted do it and i did so, and if i have all the control to do those things that are really hurting me, why can't i do the same for just stop doing it? That thought is something that i've managed to be really present in my mind. Another thing that i suggest you to do is seeking help, go to a psychologist and talk about your problems i can ensure you that will really help. I'm sorry if i didn't explain myself well i ain't a native english speaker. I really hope that you will be clearing your mind and having a good life.

 No.6597

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A month is excessive. Nofap/nosurf don't really work as advertised. I recommend going 2 days without internet first. During that time, you either do something productive or find offline entertainment. What you're looking for is similar to a dopamine detox, only it's a "digital" detox. What difficulty do you want?

a) No Internet (internal network traffic is fine)
b) No Internet, PC, or phone if you have one
c) No screens at all. Only paper media, radio etc. are allowed for entertainment.

As >>6595 alluded to, blocking sites or relying on other external resources won't work as well as your own willpower. You must be able to get to a point where you still have unfettered access but can disconnect at will. At that point, you're using your devices and not the other way around. I stopped using shitcord entirely from mid-March to mid-May this year and it was very calming and empowering. More free time, less pseudo-social urges. Regarding youtube specifically, you can take away 90% of its addictive power by not using the app ever, and only looking at your subscriptions. You can even make RSS feeds out of your subs.

 No.6610

I've taken various internet breaks from a few months to a year. You kinda have to have a solid goal your internet addiction was keeping you from achieving to get real results, otherwise you just feel kind of bored and are likely to come back the same as ever and repeat the same habits.

But maybe after a month of cold turkey you'll see how vapid and dull a lot of the content out there is. Most of it feels so stupid I just cba to look or care. imo even the hardcore digital/dopamine detox stuff is in a similar realm of retarded and still saps up your time. Just think of the internet as a pantry packed full of sweets you know better than to binge on and practice mindfulness. But yeah, sometimes it helps to throw out all the junk at first.



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 No.6442[Reply]

I hate people who glorify pain and suffering and "hard work" at the expense of your own health, free time and happiness. Suffering doesn't make you deep, it's not meaningful, and most importantly it's not necessary. These people brag about working 13 hours a day just so that other people can see how much they can endure. From an outside perspective, they look stupid. If you can find shortcuts, why not try them?

The people who win at life are the ones who know how to enjoy it, and you just know that the martyrs are seething with jealousy. This is where their criticism comes from (mainly about freelancers but also some neets), that they are shallow, that they have it easy, or "why do they make money sitting on their ass while I put in hard work"? Well, tough luck I guess? You're not superior for having a shitty life.
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 No.6480

>>6442
I usually assume you work 13h with shortcuts , smart AND hard.

Also i kinda with i had their willpower so i can do stuff i like and not burn out. A subconcious part of me kinda wants to be like that but it might be because i have the opposite problem of having piss poor willpower/motivation even towards doing stuff i like (burning on hobbies a lot) rather than a desire to work myself to death , could also be soceital glorification of this lifestyle influencing me a bit (you are not immune to propagnda) .

I do recognise its unhealthy tho.

 No.6521

>>6444
> Otherwise all you'll ever know is sitting at home watching anime and being kinda comfy.
And what's wrong with that? That's hardly an argument in favour of suffering.

 No.6522

>>6521
"Kinda" is the key word. You will never discover the real joys of living. It's an existence you could take or leave.

 No.6523

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>>6522
>the real joys of living
Life is only pain. Why be some fake conformist wannabe yuppie when you can embrace the truth and write poetry about death and post it online in a shrine to your pain?

 No.6524

>>6442
I wholeheartedly agree. This is especially present in the field I was thinking about getting into - Computer Science.
It seems everyone there tries to become ultra-productive little code monkeys, spending most of their time doing pointless boring shit.
Even though, I'm somewhat interested in the field itself, this sort of behavior turns me off from it really hard.



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