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Antisocial makes it seem voluntary. It's not. I turned down a new friend because I'm terrified of social interaction. I hate myself. I wish I could go out but I'm confined to myself and my stupid social anxiety. I couldn't even hold a job for the whole summer because it got to be too much.


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social interactions fucking suck. as a matter of fact, most people fucking suck. after being betrayed by a couple of friends/family and going through 8 horrible jobs despite having a bachelor's degree, i can see why some people are driven to fedpost some victims.


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I gave in and posted somewhere else to add to the conversation and ended up fighting with some idiot and it ruined my day, I hate people so much. From now on I wont speak to anyone ever again and just isolate myself completely.


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>I couldn't even hold a job for the whole summer because it got to be too much.
Goddamn, the same thing happened to me. I got a job and I was there for maybe 2-3 weeks before I lost it for missing a shift. Social anxiety, among other things, really screwed me over. And without insurance… fuck

>From now on I wont speak to anyone ever again and just isolate myself completely.
I know how that goes, building stuff up like that to protect yourself. But remember that stuff will just let things continue as they are. My advice would be to look for treatment – if you're in the states and don't have insurance there are behavioral resources that can help you get on insurance which can backdate expenses, that's what I'm working on now.

Now THIS is Antisocial.

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I truly do not believe that my future has any light at all. it's made itself very clear over the years that my parents just don't love me. they don't care or listen to me. They say it's unacceptable for me to ever be a NEET/live in their house much longer. I don't know what i'm going to do next. I deeply resent society and I'm not interested in working or doing studies. i dropped out when i was 16 with no graduation. i turn 19 in february. i'm not good at talking to others in real life nor do i desire it. the thing is i'm very talented at multiple things, and i love making art, i share it online and am also part of online artist communities, it's truly one thing that motivates me to live everyday to create and also to help others. But seeing the state of this world and how people like me are treated, it feels tiresome and neverending. I don't want to waste my potential but i am just not made for this shit. Who ever thought bringing offspring into this shit world [school, work, maybe family, die, repeat] was a good idea? Sorry for the depressing post. I just needed a place to write out these words. I think i just need to isolate myself more and ignore them entirely. It's a waste of energy to talk to them.


OP here, my depression often clouds my thoughts and makes things seem worse than they are. I don't really want to change this lifestyle though,. It's the option that makes the most sense to me. That feels the least difficult while at the same time breaking free from what society expects us to do.


let it all out man

can i see some of your art (:


thanks. It's mostly just video collage/music, i don't really feel comfortable with linking my accounts though..
i'm decent at drawing but still trying to get better. Maybe one day i'll get back to this thread and post some.

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Any hikkis here figure out a way to make money without leaving your room and going outside??.
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Online gambling is a scam. They adjust the odds in real-time so if you are consistently winning, they change the odds so you always lose in succession to lose most of your winnings.

I know this is a FACT because there is a trick to always win 100% of the time at roulette. If you tried it in a physical casino you'd be banned from entering. But when you try it online, the online casino game starts to act very strange.



I applied to work with rev but their application form didn't work. There was no certification to pass. It expected me to submit the form with no changes as there was nothing to mark.


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>makes bullshit claim
>doesn't elaborate or even say what the title is cause "muh NDA"
so you're either full of shit, or you're full of shit. got it.


weird seeing this thread from 2017 here post-COVID. yes, all computer programming jobs are now fully remote. I haven't left my house for work in 3 years. it's ok


you got any experience using this, anon? what's the rate of offered surveys and the (actual, realistic) pay someone can expect to get out of it long term? being told $6.50/hr on the site is cool and all, but it won't really mean much if the average time you invest is too low.

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If I'm successful financially, I think I might create a NEET house, as a safe space where NEETs can move out of their parents house, become a virtuoso of what they're passionate about, and/or be counseled on how to actually succeed at life. Eventually though, they will have to either use what they've learned to get a job and move out, or contribute to the household (I suspect it'd mostly be the later, since it's the safer option).

What do you think? Can someone learn to not be a leech on society in an environment like this, or would this inevitably reinforce their dependence on others? Would you be comfortable moving to such a place full of NEET strangers, even if shit hit the fan?
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easy, just ask for a little bit of money a month, say 100$, from what people are talking online, there are a lot of adults living with their parents, and guess they would be glad to send their 30 year old off to some kind of shared flat


That would be wonderful OP, I'm trapped with my parents in an isolated shithole town and I hate it. If I had somewhere I could fly to and never go back I would be so much happier.


>isolated shithole town
Sounds comfy. I live in a big city and I'm miserable. I wish I could move to some bumfuck hick town and live in some cabin in the woods away from society


living alone in privacy somewhere in the woods sounds cozy but the thought of needing a ride every time to go to town for groceries or necessities kills the neet. Comfy without having to run into people but also within walkable distance to stores is a good balance to me personally


I'd take advantage of your generosity anon, 99% of us would because we wouldn't be able to help it. You can't just stick a bunch of dysfunctional people in halfway home and expect meaningful things to come of it. If I'm a depressed, reclusive chud and my roomies are depressed, reclusive chuds, it's going to turn into a game where we inevitably avoid one another as often as possible because none of us want to roll the dice with burdensome social interactions.

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I used to post here before but stopped after living a normal lifestyle, for a while atleast. I got fired and I've been jobless for like months now. My previous motivation to work on my personal projects and illustrations have all since diminished. I feel only apathy when playing games or watching stuff like I used to enjoy. Nowadays I just constantly press f5 on various image boards to pass time and listen to songs I've heard countless of times before already. Then I remembered this place and feel like I should share this here.

Please feel free to share your current situation here so we can feel alone togehter or some gay shit.
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>I just spent all this time over an ancient discussion
Now I feel like a silent therapist of sorts, like that midget in the willy wonka movie.

Basically, what >>4025 says. Chill out.
When I realized things weren't going anywhere I stepped out the topic. My posting on the conversation wasn't so much a complaint but just a "This is my case and things don't necessarily have to be the way you guys think". Then it was dismissed and the point derailed into a topic I had no problems with. No need to worry about it so much, I've been on imageboards long enough to engage in many retarded discussions of every sort, so it's not like it killed me inside or anything like that.

>Now maybe you are a lot more social now, in which case, the discussion no longer applies. Maybe you are satisfied with just a shallow social circle and a daily grind that is littered with small distractions like vidya games and anime, but that just sounds like settling to me. Forget having sex and getting a girlfriend, or using your own example, owning a tank for that matter, your general attitude is what worried me and wanted to help you.

Some time when I was a pre-teen (maybe slightly before, I can't tell), I realized there was a gap between me and most of the people I knew. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean I was a special snowflake of some sorts, it's just that I couldn't understand people and I felt like they were at the other side of a deep chasm. I engaged on my own interests while neglecting socialization and I came to appreciate my time in solitude, where I could do as I pleased. I've grown up practically living like this, so now that I actually know some people who happen to share those interests I simply talk them out and engage in the socialization I neglected for all these years, since these people happen to have one of their feet on this side of the chasm.
I still have some little problems, yes; for example, I notice I change when around people, I tend to do very silly jokes and put on a childish attitude for the sake of joking, and sometimes I don't like how I act. Some part of me inside is calling me out for being too extrovert. But I don't think that is bad at all, it's just that it's new, and my brain is too overwhelmed with all the new activity. Old habits are hard to break, after all, and years jokiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>Stop belittling yourself
One habit I want to break, my early rants used to be in that belittling style.

>excessively apologetic

Ugh, that's what I wanted to avoid. I recently decided that I was just going to be apologetically me, because in general I'm not a bad person so why the fuck am I saying sorry a thousand times a day?

>Chill out.
Completely unrelated to rest of the post, but I'm pretty calm now. Slept way better knowing I was more concise with my point and of course was much more honest and upfront. That said, long emotional spiels like that are why I make private journals for me to bitch and be as nonsensical or whatever if need be. Then I think way clearer.

>A solution solves a problem. What is the problem you see here, exactly? Neglecting parts of life people generally agree are needed for finding happiness? Disregarding experiences because they don't really tingle enough inside me? I'm honestly interested.

A little of both I guess, but those kinda goes back to the to fact that if I feel that someone is being indifferent to something that is somewhat important because I at this point in time, I feel that my indifference to a number of things messed up certain elements of my life. Plus, I feel like if I'm not improving in some way, then I'm just stagnating. So if I see that in someone, I really hope they at least make baby steps for a better life. But it's more than just you though, in real life I have a younger brother making similar mistakes I made. Of course, he won't listen to anybody, I didn't mention that because, not relevant but I guess it kinda is since it relates to how I view problems. Indifference and the regret or problems that often come from is just something I see in myself and other people and it annoys me.


My job training starts soon. I had to get a job eventually but I really just want to curl up in a ball and stay in my room.

I haven't released anything yet, sorry. What I'm hoping to make someday is a cute low poly game packed full of dreams which I've had over the course of my life. Even after such a long time I can still remember a lot of them to varying degrees.

So far I have character designs and some rudimentary location sketches and a massive rough draft map linking the areas together. My biggest hurdle which I have yet to overcome is that I have no idea how to "accurately" fill up explorable areas of locations which I never went to when I was dreaming. I was originally hoping it would be 100% dream content with no filler/made up content just for the game, but since that won't be possible I'll just have to figure something else out and deal with it.

Once I seriously start making progress I'll most likely talk about it here.


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im learning several programming languages. i want to be able to read and write basic things in practically all languages there are, i am studying 12 languages more in depth because i like their paradigms syntax niche uses etc a lot, and a final language as my swiss army knife with all its libraries etc.
next year ill go to an university and get a bs in applied math with a minors in pure. ill be taking a lot of electives. classes from neural networks, bayesian inference and ai to information, model and automata theories to algebraic topology and differential geometry to algorithms II and algebraic graph theory, i think its a really cool course.
then ill get a ms in cryptography and a phd in information security. during my ms im planning to focus almost exclusively on cryptology so i can be very good at it. then learn more practical things during my phd, and other things i didnt get to learn before then.
also im learning 4 human languages. maybe ill pick a couple more with time depending on my progress.
im addicted to studying, i spend all day reading, when i wake up i hurry to my computer to read pdfs, when i go to bed i think about what i learned today until i fall asleep. i dont do anything else anymore, i dont watch anime or read manga or play games or masturbate or listen to music. every day is reading all alone. this will be my life for 10 or so years. its an extremely frugal and repetitive lifestyle, i eat the exact same meals every single day. like grinding in a rpg.
i had a very agonizing first two decades of life, in the past couple of years ive experienced more things than in my whole life before, im experiencing a lot of things for the first time, its like im just born. im finally free to be myself. the best years of life are gone, if i could start over id have gotten into computers as early as possible and do nothing but study and study every day like im doing now. its like living the childhood i didnt get to live. i dont think theres a point in even trying anymore, i have no expectations of success but im doing it anyways. im extremely happy. my life is a mess and im against overwhelming odds but if everything is up to me then i think im going to make it and ill be really outstanding at what i do.
and i want to never again talk to anyone. i want to spend the rest of my life all alone with computers.


I've gone full schizo but I refuse to seek medical help because I'm scared. I think I might have some kind of disorder where psychosis is the major symptom. Could be worse, though.

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post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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I relapsed health wise and my dad is here minding me but I'm still doing pretty well

The 1 bedroom flat is fucking terrible but it'll do until a few months when I get a new place

Making lots of music now



Have a new place now holed up for Corona
Also a gf which is nice although she's very energy sapping makes it hard to pace myself


Recovering from some sort of foot infection thing.
Been on anti-biotics for like 9 days.


Broke up with that girl because my condition couldn't handle
Few girls since haven't been able to handle my condition, just got broken up with
Also since bought a house and started a whole musical collective around my studio with money from my dad
But he's run out of money
And I'm relapsing health wise so moving out to the countryside
I recently was able to play soccer again, but stress recently has gotten me down don't think I can live this life I built for myself in the last year
My best friend I played music with all the time had a mental breakdown with psychosis and moved out to home
2 housemates had covid back to back and we couldn't leave the house

Dunno what the future holds but I guess I'll just be living off rent in the countryside doing fuck all with my cat


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She cute

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I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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Thanks anon!


it's already the second time i try to learn about seo, building sites, affiliates etc. and i'm almost giving up, it's all so confusing, everyone tries to be as vague as possible to avoid competition, every time i find a post explaining something it's always for people that are already running a site and is full of technical jargons.
obviously googling it is useless because of all the people trying to sell you their courses and services


Damn that's pretty disappointing. I was worried about the tax evasion part, figured you could just use crypto but I don't know much about that area. I will probably look into cheat dev for fun anyway, I guess not for a living though. Thanks anon.


It sounds like you know a thing or two about porn commissions. I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to get into the business?

Back in 2019, I advertised that I was willing to do things like same size vore, dacryphilia or loli art but no one responded (even though I had about 48 followers on Instagram who followed me even when I posted ecchi art). I'm on places like Newgrounds and DeviantArt but still no one is interested in my shit!

Like, what the fuck?! I thought porn commissions were super easy to do? And I'm not even against doing porn commissions because I have some weird ass fetishes that I could capitalize on, but nothing seems to be happening!


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I'm not that anon, but I think the dynamics of the commission market have changed a lot over the years. People are more likely to commission people they know and artists recommended to them by friends. There's also a social aspect to it. There's a big chunk of commissioners who enjoy watching their commissions be drawn on stream, although not all are like this.

The days of just posting porn and getting a flood in your inbox are over, now that it has become less taboo and more artists are willing to do it. Even in the hay days, having 48 followers wasn't really enough, especially on non-porn sites. Also since there's more competition now, your style, content and characters have to be really unique. Being good at drawing is not enough though. To grow your following you need to engage with other artists and your fans as much as possible, chatting and possibly doing requests, collabs and trades.

Most people use Discord now to socialize. Talk to your commissioners and get to know where they like to hang out. People with different fetishes tend to have very different hobbies so I can't really tell you where to look. Websites have become a waste of time though unless you're getting your dick sucked by the algorithm. I just upload my stuff to imageboorus and share it where people are actively sharing art and talking to each other because that's where people are actually finding stuff. Search for what you're drawing into Yandex Images and Google and see what sites come up. Why isn't your art on those sites? Newgrounds is a hole in the wall and DeviantArt has been long dead. They rarely come up in search results.

If you have other skills, that's also a good way to grab people's attention, such as making a game, comic, channel, streaming or using AI to do something new people haven't seen before. At the end of the day, it's not the porn that's really important it's being a parasocial entertainer people enjoy being around.

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How do you make online friends? Where did you meet yours? I'm so fucking lonely. I figured out I could ask here because none of you are going to give me shit advice like "go outside."
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Word. This reply's really good. The best people I know online are from small-ish tightknit communities.

& don't be shy as well


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Discord being spyware is one major issue. There are alternatives, but people just don't use them for some reason. I also don't like the idea of talking to groups in general. Who do I talk to? If it's dead and no one is there, what do I say? And if there are too many people around, it's not really possible to have a great discussion. I tend to prefer responding to people, but even if there are only a couple of people talking, I don't want to join a conversation that other people are having and potentially get in their way. In general, imageboards are what I like the most, but we never exchange contact information even when a good discussion does happen. The internet really feels kinda hopeless. It never leads anywhere.

Someone did get me to use Discord (after a conversation, so I had to be convinced, and to me trying to make someone use something else feels rude) and then "ghosted" me, as the kids say (and I used it in a browser with a good VPN and generally tried to keep it from being too invasive), and I was desperate enough to try a couple of groups, but it just didn't work and I couldn't talk. Gave up after joining a small group and a message loudly announced that I joined. Made me panic and quit everything and never try again. Real time online communication makes me too nervous. This is one aspect of myself that I definitely hate. For talking to complete strangers that I know nothing about, it's too much. In a way, it's scarier than real life and I can't contain my spaghetti, it immediately explodes out of my pockets.

Maybe I should play RuneScape. I actually never played it, which is strange because I played MMOs way too much in the past (and I certainly regret that now). Somehow never played one of the more popular ones, very strange. Kinda scared, though, because I may end up spending too much time on it. When I did play MMOs, I was really bad at interacting with people. Couldn't do anything that required collaboration. Still, I did talk to some people, though I never initiated the first interaction.


Almost the same for me, only difference is that it was on Skype and not Discord.
I honestly think that I am still chasing that feeling of belonging, comfort and intimacy. I miss those people, they were the best friends I ever had. We talked about everything with each other, did a lot of stuff together and helped each other out a lot. We even met once irl.
Whatever they do now and wherever they are now, I wish them only the best.
I miss them and the places I visited in the past, often I think about them.
I have to be honest and admit I am longing for things that are gone and won't come back. The reason why I am still on the Internet… I know nothing else and have the silly hope I will one day meet people I like again and a place I call home.
I actually met those people that I mentioned above on an imageboard and we got together because I dropped my contact information. Maybe just risk doing it, I doubt that on places like Uboa something bad follows.


My post made me think more about this matter and I think what I truly search is the cirklewanking I had with the few people I mentioned.
The playful teasing and shitposting, paired with the occasional serious talk about something. Exchanging opinions about stuff we watched and played, being just able to life my interests. Just having friends that are likeminded and there for you.
I am honestly afraid finding out if I would be satisfied again if I met new people that I get along with. I have changed, feeling more tired, more jaded, more burned out. I am afraid to get what I am chasing and finding out it isn't fulfilling anymore. That the magic is gone or separation regarding online and irl is getting to me now.
I wonder if I ever stumble upon a website again that makes me feeling fond of it or if the Internet just got stale for me. But what else is there for me except the Internet? There is nothing and no one else around, I cling desperately to it and I am afraid it won't be what I need nor want.


How do you look for communities? How do you find small groups? Uboachan discord is fucking humongous

I have much better luck on tiny discords (like under 100 members), but it's near impossible to find them. I feel like I could have some success if I just had opportunities to interact with people but it seems nonexistent unless you already have friends to invite you to servers and shit.

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do any of you fantasize about the end of the world? even when I lose interest in all my other hobbies prepping and homesteading remain really alluring, something about imagining a scenario where I have control over my life.


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yeah i do, ive known about what the next decade will bring for some time now. though i dont have the mental capacity and motivation to actually prep or do something about it so im just waiting to die the next 5 years or so


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often. i think it's just a way to justify failing/dying. if it's not "my fault", i'm absolved of all guilt, as opposed to my current ugly spiral (and it's inevitable ending) being totally on me.


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Yeah, especially when my depression gets wild. I can't stop thinking about how humanity is always walking towards it's own destruction (and I kinda hope that the end comes soon enough so I can leave this place without hurting the few people that I have by my side)

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Is anyone else sad when their posts get no replies? I don't mean here but on bigger sites. I'm kinda lonely.
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My empathy has been activated and I feel the need to respond to every post in this thread. This is making me feel actual pain. I must contain it and only reply to what I immediately read, and not read too much, or I won't have the time to do anything before sleeping. Do not apply that logic to me, I understand that people can't reply to everything and aren't always in the mood to do so, and then just forget about it. Please kill me and end my suffering.

Or not enough, since replying to older messages feels kinda weird. Very unbalanced. Either too much, so you can't have a good discussion, or nothing at all to talk about. And how do you start a discussion? Who do you talk to? Everyone? That's kinda weird. And even if you do talk to one person, isn't it awkward to know what everyone can read what you're saying? I don't know, I never liked being around groups of people in real life, and online it's not really better.

My posts tend to be longer and more detailed than most. Most of them are responses to other posts, and I tend to respond to anyone that responds to me as long as I have something to say, so in a way, it's good when I don't get a response, because someone will have to end the discussion and it typically won't be me unless there is really nothing else to be said.

I can pretty much only commonly relate to people on dead imageboards. There are not that many people that I talked to in the past that enjoyed interacting with enough to clearly and fondly remember, but almost all of those have been on imageboards. Occasionally comments somewhere else, but that only happened a couple of times.

Sometimes what people say can be overwhelming, and responding can be difficult. I know that I struggled with that before. Especially when people say a bunch of truly horrible things, I can struggle to even know how to react appropriately. I'm sure that I made other people feel the same in the past. I could tell.

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>Sometimes what people say can be overwhelming, and responding can be difficult. I know that I struggled with that before. Especially when people say a bunch of truly horrible things, I can struggle to even know how to react appropriately. I'm sure that I made other people feel the same in the past. I could tell.
I relate and really feel what you're saying since this just happened to me yesterday. I tried to interact with people outside of what I'd usually browse, on an 8gag spinoff to see if it was any good, but they were pretty hostile. Maybe it was because I tried to make a random rambling post to fit in, but yeah I feel like I am just failing really hard at trying to branch out because deep inside most people on imageboards look down on people who aren't the regular kind that they expect. I wish I understood people, even those who I think would get me. Honestly I wish there was a better alternative besides imageboards but there just isn't.


>person asks something
>I and another person reply
>OP only talks to the other person
sounds like real life.


Seems that way. I can only relate to a few people in boards like this and for the most part that's about it because I guess I'm too weird, but it never goes beyond that because leaving contact information at all feels like pressuring people too much, so I have never done it.


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>I wish I understood people, even those who I think would get me

Relate to this a lot. I think that's what makes finding places I can interact in so special for me, though: I feel somewhat more understood, and like I can understand more. Maybe it's just because of the similar pains we find ourselves going through that many of us find boards like this more welcoming.

I tend to get worked up about this, as well. Sometimes, it makes me wonder if the way I speak/type makes me seem like either a stuffy arsehole who is impossible to talk to, or just a total retard, even if the actual content of what I say is the same as another person.

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