/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

I stalk someone I know only from reading some MMO forum and some guy's Twitter because his art is cool, solely because they seem to share my interests but are so out of my reach I would never actually talk to either of them as I am an autistic freak.

Yes. I've met some people who have qualities I wish I had, I tend to copy them/try to be more like a them. If I can't be like them, being around them is good too.

I had multiple obsessions with several girls in the past few years. I would not put them in the platonic category exactly (I've imagined each of them as potential gf), but not romantic either (never met them/exchanged a single word irl).

It got pretty bad when I found a lot of personal info about all of them, which meant I could never approach any without being creepy. It even happened once: I sent a friend request to one, and surprise surprise, she wasn't very happy to be added by someone with a fairly new account, who happens to know her username…

Being a socially fucked up guy with zero skill or knowledge to date someone, I feel like giving up should be the smartest choice. It always ends terribly for me.

At least I've got my 2D girls to partially fill that void

>>8092
>It got pretty bad when I found a lot of personal info about all of them, which meant I could never approach any without being creepy.
My, my, that is painfully relatable. So many times I just couldn't resist and then the info disbalance became irreversible.

The exact same thing happened to me. On Discord too. What made it worse was the fact that it was a university-related server, so I could have reached out and met them in person.

I platonically obsessed hard. To cope, I left the server but I still think about them and the friendship we could have had. I don't have any friends at the moment, but I felt like him and I would have gotten along.

>>8085
Introverted loser who likes to be inside all day and is into "nerd stuff" and memes. Everybody can be special and in the club!

>>8088
what did it ever mean before that? seems like its more of the same, minus twitter memes and mainstream appeal… (failed normalfags?) maybe hikkis who are hikkis post 2020 are fake hikkis and pre-2020 hikkis are genuine approved hikkis that are worth a lot to collectors on ebay

>>8089
NEETs were people without jobs, school, and training for jobs. Hikkis are shut-ins who seldom leave their house or room.

>>8090
According to Saito's book on Hikikiomori, it almost always starts with school refusal in the teenage years. I agree on the distinction. I think NEET should be an economic term to distinguish people who don't participate in society much, and Hikikiomori is more of a mental issue preventing someone from leaving their house/room, which can have many causes.

>>7863
I hope you don't drop out. It only gets harder and harder to recover the longer you're away from others. Good luck

>>8091
I don't actually have any problem leaving my house/room, I just don't have any friends or money to do anything.

>I lately noticed how little i leave room
on average how long do you go?
>getting scary how much i despise the outside world
if its causing you great distress, id suggest talking to a therapist

glad to hear you feel free somewhere

>>8099 it isn't the same for you ?

>>8100
no it is, but i know some people that feel utterly trapped as hikkis

>>7848
I really apreciate you putting your lessons here, i'm not one to post a lot either, and when i do all i can feel is doubt, i fear what people might think of me, that's because i've always wanted to be seen as smart and the cool guy lol. i'm trying to get into the state of mind of not caring about it, and only minding my own, it's been a bit tough but every day i feel more and more, even if for a few hours, that i'm a real person. i hate most social media sites, popular things just feel like complete garbage to me, and i just don't want to feel bad about it anymore. im just replying because i wouldn't want a post like yours to be left out in the wind, you've poured your heart into it i can really tell, thanks again i wish you the best.

People were posting about this in 2021? Lol, things have only gotten worse in 2024. I know how lame multi-replying is but this is the only thread I have enjoyed reading through in sometime. Please be patient and understanding!
>>6735
You can also use AI to further develop and streamline your interests and hobbies. I find it a great deal of fun just coming up with ways to do so. I hope you're okay.
>>6604
>>6605
We've moved to:
https://wapchan.org/tower/
Be warned, this is, by far, the deadest iteration of magicchan yet.
>>7109
No, I really don't think so. The worst are usually constantly embarassing themselves online while stalked by scum from kiwifarms, already dead, or downloading CP/snuff from somewhere.
>>7871
I'm not 30 yet, but yes, the older guys generally have a more refined stylometry. You almost never see them now compared to years ago.
>>7848
>I find peace in working on myself instead of trying to form connections with random people on a global scale
>maybe being a loser for too long helps you to finally work on yourself and leave behind some parts, hence why neets in online spaces are disappearing.
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I'd love to try visiting any of the sites recommended itt but I don't use a vpn. it felt like lainchan definitely tracked users and logged all sorts of information, or that somehow other users had more access to that kind of information than the average halfchanner ever cared to know, or just couldn't track too easily because of the larger userbase. with smaller sites you risk comfy for "comfy" I think, don't you? is what I'm trying to say. Am I being too paranoid?

>>8073
Not at all. Severeal years ago, I got the wizardchan mods platinum mad because I often called them out on their blatant bullshit. I definitely had a few stalk my presence with a grudge on the site until I left for good.
I'm not active anywhere to warrant such measures but If I was, I definitely would leave much less of a digital footprint.

>>6852
Anyone know who this guy was talking about? I really wanna read those essays…

Nothing annoys me more than seeing normies take the label of neet/hikki as a stand-in for their lack of any discernable inner-substance – they think being a hikikomori is cute and wear it as means of an identity, to seem special as it were. It's demeaning when it happens since – as you've pointed out – it becomes impossible to connect with others in any meaningful way. The experience and subsequent hardships of the condition is lost to the vanity of the crayon-eating masses.

>>8069

like autism, methinks

everybody and their mother just sticks it in their bio to make up for their dreary lack of personality

which, speaking as a full blown retard, really pisses me off

>>8064
"on discord", sorry but genuinely what does this mean? can you search for random people to talk to through tags or something now? how is it that you're running into supposedly so many normies like this that describe themselves like this, I'd want to make actual neet friends too because normalfags are always thinking it's some psychopathic thing to not leave the house but I'm also too afraid to search on my own and haven't tried anything yet, what is it that you're doing so far?

Having some neet friends would be nice

>how long have you been a NEET?
Three or so years.

>reason for you becoming a NEET?
Had full-time job for about five and a half years, then the lockdowns happened, then I lost my job.

>what do you do all day?
Youtube, Minecraft, chatting.

>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
Nothing IRL, just online chatting (mostly on the fediverse but I pop back to image boards every several months or so)

>how often do you get outside, if at all?
Two or three times a week. Mostly to watch my nieces.

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>how long have you been a NEET?
probably 4 or 5 years now
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
i just never went back to school after moving. no high school education means i'm unable to find a job where i live for the most part. i've tried for a while and no places want me. i guess aside from that i'm just not compatible with other people. i'm happier when i'm alone
>what do you do all day?
i like to draw every day, i'm attempting to learn how to compose music and create video games using rpg maker. i do a lot of cleaning and household activities as well as picking up some exercise recently. i think my daily activities are a lot better than what they used to be when i was always around other people
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
only talk to family offline, but even then i still distance from them. i have a few people i talk to online
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
maybe once a month. i want to start going for walks again, stopped initially because i was unnerved by other people
>do you live independently or with parents?
parent and siblings. though i'm getting a lot older and i'll have to move eventually

>how long have you been a NEET?
Since the day I dropped out high school near the end 2016, so 7-8 years now.

>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
Autism and my upbringing: grew up poor, raised by an unstable and neglectful parent, and having my mind and spirit (and my front teeth) broken by the public school hell. Relentless bullying (which turned into regular assaults and beatings from middle school onward) and alienation throughout my entire adolescence lead to me becoming a dysfunctional non-adult who is isolated, and extremely paranoid about others. I don't believe I would've survived another year of HS. Thoughts of ending it still regularly cross my mind when painful memories from school randomly come back, or whenever I'm reminded of just how far behind I am compared to normal healthy people my age (24) and younger.

>what do you do all day?
I lost interest in my hobbies (namely art and gamedev) and did nothing but sleep all day, and lurk various image boards and dead forums from 2017-2020. September 2021 I upgraded from my old laptop to a decent PC with money I had saved from the stimulus checks, and decided to get back into art, learn and get good at 3D art with Blender, and actually create something instead of wasting away. I squandered much of 2022, binging through various games I had missed out on, and did not make as much progress as I had wished. Starting 2023, I decided to play less games and dedicate my time to practicing and grinding away at 2D and 3D art until it's decent enough to post online, get good at animating, and learn a certain game engine I've been wanting to work with. I Feel like I've made good progress over the past year, and have come to realize that I absolutely need to keep myself busy, as to not ruminate over negative thoughts and memories, or engage in self-destructive behavior.

>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
I currently have zero internet friends, no presence on social media, and never had single IRL friend either. My mother and 19 year old brother (who is also a neet and autistic) are usually locked away in their rooms like myself. We only exchange a few words with each other each day, if any. I feel like I'm too broken to connect with anyone anymore, and just not compatible with this society which has devolved into Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19
>how long have you been a NEET?
5-6 years, fuck me
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
It first started when i was going to college then i had a constant panic attack that lasted a month or a couple of weeks. In which i had spent most of my days sleeping then if not having an anxiety attack. It obviously eventually ended in me being kicked out because i wasn't showing up and i just never tried to go back.
>what do you do all day?
I basically waste my life away playing games, I do read once in a while but most things are quite boring or unfun.
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
Not much i don't have any friends anymore both real life and offline, i mostly just talk to my sibling once in a while. It isn't enough though so i mostly just suffer and endure with playing games.
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
I used to go outside a lot but now it is once in a while when i have a bit of money saved.
>do you live independently or with parents?
With family sadly, holy shit i wrote my life story.

>>8052
i hope the best for you and that your life can get back on track, especially with the 3d blender art. the world is a cruel place.

>>8012
>im genuinely just not a very pleasant person
Yeah, I can see that.

>>8011
in my experience, spending MORE time by myself once highschool was over actually did wonders for anything I had going on somehow. I finally had the time to actually do what I wanted without having to be as drained and depressed all the time from being forced to do well in something I didn't personally see any benefit from. you just have to keep going, honestly. I actually talk to my own family now, I was extremely anti-social before due to the same sort of anxiety and mental anguish. It's still there but after some years I can somehow just do more things I couldn't now, more often, just more chilled out overall. I hope things get better for you naturally over time too, anon. try to just enjoy the ride

>>8036
Can vouch. Getting out of mandatory schooling was probably the best thing to happen to me. As soon as you're allowed to take things at your own pace, things get a lot easier to process (at least in my experience). I admit it helps if you have some quality of life backup like family able to support you, but the matter is just making it through is probably one of the most important things. I hope things improve, Op. You're doing great.

>>8044
shut the fuck up frogfag, your kind has no power here.

>>8045
I bet you can't even bench your bodyweight, limpwrist

I'm in the same boat. I live in an apartment with three other people since I'm a college student, and sometimes I would rather piss in a cup and dump it later than risk bumping into anyone on the way to the shared bathroom.

When I go to supermarkets, the thought of how many people were required to make all the flooring/ceiling/racks/commodities makes me freak out. I feel like there's a million hands all reaching out at me. It doesn't help that I'm a Muricafag, so of course I feel scummy because the migrant people working the commercial bakeries and packaging machines and whatever are having an infinitesimally more difficult life just for me to be here pissing my pants at the thought of never being able to achieve real isolation.

I can relate. I've had to live with family in a cramped flat for the past 4+ years and it is actually so suffocating to the point that the only time I truly feel like I'm alone is during the middle of the night when everyone else is asleep.

>>7052
They're filming with smartphones.

>>7687
lmao just tell them to stop

opiates

>>8005

This is totally me, I feel so uninterested in just about everything, japanese porn is alright tho LOL

>>7977
>took 30 minutes to write this reply. anyone else do the same thing?
Over the years it's increasingly taken me hours or days to make a single post because I'm afraid of there being something stupid in it that'd aggro angry replies towards me, or that I find it to be lacking substance or sincerity through poor vocabulary and therefore making me look stupid or shallow. With those two factors compounded by depression it locks me up, and for over a year now I can hardly speak to anyone without sounding like I'm mentally challenged or not even finish a single sentence and suffocate on my tongue.

>>8008

Same here. I think it's because socializing is a skill that needs to be worked on and covid/social media fucked my entire ability to form relationships with people. I always feel like someone is going to fuck me over as soon as I trust them. Better to just be fake and don't tell anyone anything. I also feel that most conversations are filled with meaningless stupid shit just to fill the void. >>8008

>>8005

Something very similar to this just happen to me hours ago in a call with friends that ended up boring. Not trying to sound like the last cocacola of the desert, but trying to find someone interesting that don't talk about "normies" (ᵈᵒⁿᵗˡᶦᵏᵉᵗʰᵃᵗᵗᵉʳᵐ) topics or similar feels impossible, to the point that the conversation just die in minutes, with the feeling that you just fool yourself.


>>7977
>even online. just cant hold a conversation for more than 10 messages. took 30 minutes to write this reply. anyone else do the same thing?


Same thing to me. At least it seem is more frecuent that i think.

to be honest the best strategy I found for getting out of this kind of rut everyone’s talking about is getting horrifically obsessed with something. Chances are, you’ll find a community for that thing and be able to go from there without ‘normie’ topics interfering. I’ve got a friend who, if the conversation dies, will IMMEDIATELY start talking about VTubers and it’s honestly a relief because i get to hear about whatever mad shit they’re up to + no one’s asking about the weather or anything. Small talk like that is saved for being stuck in an elevator or a bus being late.

It's all gone. I didn't save it. And now it's gone. It doesn't even feel that unfair, I just don't want to go back.

>>7999
You accept that you have fucked up and think about what needs to change for you not to fuck up but prosper instead. There is not a single silver bullet other than "Get supportive friends."

>>8001
It's Valentine's Day and I'm worried out of my mind, I don't know how bad the repercussions are gonna be. But honestly last night, I just accepted it, and I slept like a baby. It's nice having a somewhat clear mind and being on somewhat solid ground. I've been running around trying to get all these things done, and it just hurting me.

I know it's selfish but I gotta put myself first. Whatever happens happens, Happy Valentine's mates <3

take it a step at a time and stop being gay, one paper isn't gonna be the end of it