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Posting works again.

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Who is your favorite NEET Youtuber?
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coco keiki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCtedV-SEg
>5 years ago
I wonder what they are up to now




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Star never changes apparently. Years later and their still caught up in the same controlling manipulative behaviors as before. They don't learn even though they claim to hurting everyone they come into contact with.
Lacks perspective and enables Star.


i saw that stealth edit you did there


what was up with the latest star drama? all i know is he broke up with starman and dotesmite made a now deleted video about it.

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I do not mean on this site but in general where are all the losers hanging out online now because all the imageboards are very slow and any of the bigger platforms are suffocating by censoring controversial opinions driving discussion of those topics away yet where is everyone?

ver the past 5 years it is like nearly every hikikomori realized that online communities for losers were not worth the drama or they killed themselves.
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it's sad because i go to niche communities to escape that kinda thing only to find that's it's actually often even worse lol

This is a really random thought, but it might be interesting if somebody were to make a list of all the different social archetypes. It could be like a reference sheet and whenever you venture into a community you can refer to the list for any type of person like it's a pokedex and it would have info about the archetype and how to approach them


reading this made me really sad
you perfectly described how i've been feeling for years

the internet isn't what it used to be, my home is gone


I don't know anon, I've never truly been online, as far as I can remember my internet and computer experience has always been very lonely : I never got any friends in MMOs, I've never contributed to any kind of project, I've never joined any sort of community or anything, I've just never been anywhere

as for others, I blame discord, twitter, reddit and similar huge platforms that captured all the attention and traffic


i think the true losers generally don't even post online.


No idea. Probably small private IRC/Discord channels.

A lot of imageboards I've seen are overly hostile to new people and people with opinions/thoughts that deviate from the accepted norms there. Aren't proficient in Linux? Only play mainstream games? Do you like "SJW" western cartoons? Only watched a few dozen anime series? Prepare for people to berate you and act like you're some bad guy because you have different interests than them. This kind of thought process permeates tons of communities and its extremely cancerous because the people perpetuating it think there's some kind of "process" or "qualifications" to belong to a particular community when the simple act of using a community makes it yours and you a part of it regardless of how you act or think. An anon might be a /pol/ user, some old man visiting /diy/ once a month, a frequent Reddit user, a spammer, or just a 15 year old boy learning about the world. Such people always believe the community is theirs and that they're without a doubt an integral part of it.
Honestly I can't say there's ever been a single place I've felt deeply attached to. I feel at peace when I'm alone and don't have any kind of attachment to a group of people. The entire world is here for me and I am alone, and I can do whatever I want. I feel like a vagabond on the internet, going from place to place.

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How would you recommend I start promoting myself so I can make money off selling custom art for people?
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Oh, I happen to be an expert on this. It's honestly really fucking easy.

You draw some art, it doesn't even have to be good, make sure to put a recognizable signature to it so people can google you, have a blog or something where the rest of your gallery is, link it to your paypal account or bitcoin wallet or something for people to send donations to.

Again, your art doesn't even have to be masterpieces, but what's important is a certain meme-value that compels someone to save it to their hard drive and later repost it somewhere else. Initially, you will be the one posting your own art in various different high-traffic places until it catches on and becomes viral and your fans are doing your work for you.

Use reverse image search to see who's reposting your shit and where.


Wow, embracing mediocrity. I can't blame you for doing it, but I can't respect you either. If you can, don't live off of commissions op.


Way to insult me dude. It's not mediocrity, read my post again, you can do what you love and not be a prostitute like Shadman who draws porn of spinners and emojis and Donald Trump and whatever, but whatever you draw actually has to be interesting to others to get popular, not just to yourself. One way or another you have to get people to repost it and talk about it.

Nobody owes you anything for spending a lot of time working hard on a piece, it's the value they receive that matters.


Capitalist pigs not welcome here


my oinks are worth more than your wah wahs, new age comm

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Who here has achieved monk-tier hikkidom?
>i have made myself to be a walking wikipedia
>started working out and actually developed muscle
>my level of doucheness has risen to considerable levels
>Turns out looking down on people cures some of the anxiety
I still dont leave my house though, mainly because i dont have reasons to do so, i lost all my "friends" a long time ago and calling them to hang out now would be awkward (i dont even have money to go drinking) and i still get anxious as fuck when im outside (i was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder)
And getting a job still looks impossible


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i forgot to add
>i have elevated my level of english to near native status (expressing myself is still difficult because i dont speak too much with people)
>on my way to learn japanese (those untranslated eroges wont stay out of my reach)


Monk tier hikki-dom is becoming a literal hermit. Come back when you farm your own food, produce your own clothing and transcend mortal desires.


>started working out and actually developed muscle
stopped reading right there


>he got past "monk-tier hikkidom"


try getting on voice chats , be that a videogame voice chat or just some discord VC.

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Oh…good, I still have my trip on hand.

Anyways, I feel like now would be a good time to post what's been going on with me, and ask something of this board. I'm aware I could potentially identify myself by revealing what I've been up to, but oh well. If you find me, you find me. But more to the point: I've become officially, completely disabled and a NEET after several years of successful reintegration into society and getting an Associate of Arts. Some of you might remember me and my medical mysteries. I'm all too chuffed to tell you that they've gotten way worse, to the point where I may now get referred to a geneticist on suspicions of genetic cellular disease. In essence, we fear whatever's going on with me may be something we can't catch with the average level of testing. If it is the disease we're thinking of, it means it's a progressive condition that you can only throw experimental treatments at to slow the progression of, and it's something I would potentially very likely pass on to my kids. My prognosis would be completely unknown and dependent on a lick and a prayer. Not the stuff you successfully hold down a career with.

On the upside, though, I have a good team of people helping me out on it, and I've got a girl I've been seeing that I really enjoy. She's also a disabled NEET, and I think we really see eye to eye on a lot of life priorities. It's really strange. I've had a renewed interest in living and moving forward ever since I fell for her.

However, the point remains that I am back where I was when I started posting here: mostly shut-in, tired, sick, and (allegedly) doing nothing to contribute to society. So I ask this of you all: How many of you have had on-and-off NEETdom? What do you do when you realize you're going to have to become NEET again, whether by life circumstances or your own sanity or whatever? And…well, I'm probably asking this to the wrong people, but how do you keep it together? I don't know how to enjoy my time as a NEET like I once did. It just all feels strange now. Is there any ways to make it easier to accept it?

Apologies if there's already a thread like this that I didn't see, I'm super groggy from my migraine medication.

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Who else here has a positive or at least neutral view/outlook on hikki/neetdom? It seems like most discussion in hikki/neet communities are pessimistic these days and was wondering how many here view their situation positively and possibly discuss the positive side here.

I just don't like people. Being able to stay in my comfy house and relax all day is a godsend. I wouldn't gain anything from waging or moving out. I have a lot more time to myself and I'm way happier than most people I would say.
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let me be your バトー ブッテツ


i will forever be your most utmost servant nantaimori



I have no real life or online friends and am incredibly grateful for my position. Putting up with other people induces unnecessary suffering (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog%27s_dilemma). Moreover, I suspect that having friends can spread conformity/mainstream cultural "memes" in a person.
I assume that it works both ways: The people who are more likely to have friends tend to be more hive minded because they can find people who they can relate to in the first place, and in turn, interacting with others who are laymen makes one gradually become more mainstream/conformist because of the diffusion of those commonplace memes.


>Moreover, I suspect that having friends can spread conformity/mainstream cultural "memes" in a person.
I believe it's related to the automaton like behavior of most people. People absorb input from their environment, filter it through their ego and then react and form beliefs based on that data. If a person discovers this pattern, the environment loses its control over the mind and the true self regains its power.
Having no friends means less input from the world, but thanks to the Internet, it doesn't really make much of a difference these days, as friendless individuals are constantly subjected to outside influences via the Internet.


I wish I could give all of you a hug, seriously
I've been trying to hug my dad at least once each day
Anyways if anyone needs someone to talk to
and we could be penpals
I've been looking at a lot of philosophy lately

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post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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Have a new place now holed up for Corona
Also a gf which is nice although she's very energy sapping makes it hard to pace myself


Recovering from some sort of foot infection thing.
Been on anti-biotics for like 9 days.


Broke up with that girl because my condition couldn't handle
Few girls since haven't been able to handle my condition, just got broken up with
Also since bought a house and started a whole musical collective around my studio with money from my dad
But he's run out of money
And I'm relapsing health wise so moving out to the countryside
I recently was able to play soccer again, but stress recently has gotten me down don't think I can live this life I built for myself in the last year
My best friend I played music with all the time had a mental breakdown with psychosis and moved out to home
2 housemates had covid back to back and we couldn't leave the house

Dunno what the future holds but I guess I'll just be living off rent in the countryside doing fuck all with my cat


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She cute


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Didn't end up moving out stuck it out, times were good over the last couple months although my friend who was living with me blocked me on Instagram ignores me in real life unless we're around other people

Put on a couple gigs with the studio renting out the place for rehearsals not making much money at it though

Also the kicker

I got covid then long covid, in and out of the emergency room, high tailed it back home to America and after the adrenaline puttered out and the codeine I was given ran out I'm left in a huge depression biggest of my life thus far

I'm in the worst state of my life, back ten years in the past can't even cool or go to the grocery store, barely leave the house

The covid fucked my chronic fatigue syndrome so I've no idea how long this will last

Biggest gig of our studio's life happening in April just after my appointment with the chronic fatigue specialist

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I missed out on everything as a kid. I was always left alone by my peers which fucked me up of any social skills in the long run. I still have trouble holding a conversation. Have you guys had any trouble as a kid? This extreme isolation happened from 3rd to 8th grade which was enough to cripple me possibly my whole life. Or what is left of it anyway. Nearly 6 years of my life consisted of going home from school and back. Every day. Never talk with anyone, not even with family. Just me and my thoughts from a young age

I don't want to be like those other anons who just vent out shit here, so I'll ask the question, have you guys went through something similar that had a damaging effect on you? I still feel bits of loneliness from it.

pic unrelated FLCL just makes me feel like shit
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I was the type of kid in school that made an ass out of himself in grades 1-7, which got me a small clique of "friends" that laughed behind my back, save for one dude that forced me to end a growing relationship with a nerdy girl my age because he thought "I was too cool for her and it would ruin our image/friendship". Then as I matured, I became extremely reserved and forced into class with sociopaths and ghetto retards. During my high school years, a lot of fucked up abuse went on (including an event which lead to hospitalization and a permanent ugly scar on my chest and stomach), which lead to a lot of body issues. It was so bad, quitting school was a plausible option. But I manned up and got my diploma. Now I'm just another anon looking for a job that leaves me with enough time to tend to my own hobbies.


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Went through basically the same.
Socially isolated growing up, and the little interactions I did have probably ruined me in the head considering how little I trust to talk even with my parents nowadays. I repressed most of my life and now I have problems remembering and problems being honest in a conversation.
Trust issues I guess, always a feeling I have to please the other person, getting attached too quickly because of a lack of understanding social norm, feeling simultaneously accepted as part of the group and yet thinking they would all be better off without me and won't even notice if I'm gone.

I think I have been better off not socializing. If I can't be alright with myself, I won't be alright with anyone else, and they won't need to bother with me.


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Because of work reasons I was dragged off to internet cafe's at the age of 6 or so,I spent 4-12 hours a day there, everyday(averaging around 8-9 hours a day) until I was 11 and the internet cafe I went to went bankrupt. I actually had a few friends there, but they obviously couldn't be playing in the internet cafe as much as I, and our relationship was more like distant older brothers/little kid than anything else because they were all way older than me, so I spent the vast majority of my time alone. There was only a specific set of games there and because I was too young, and didn't know english or any sites in my native language basically everyday was spent playing the same games over and over again, at some point I started acting like there are various different me's in my head(like a tall one, fat one, etc. all with different opinions and ideas) and I would talk to them, though thankfully that stopped by itself after a few months.

I would almost never talk with my parents, because they woüld always come home past midnight, though I myself would go to sleep extremely late too(like 12pm as a 7 year old, a few years later I would start spending going to sleep only at 4-6am, and only get 4 or so hours of sleep a day because of school and whatnot). Until I was 11 or so I would rarely see my mother, and my relationship with her was extremely bad with her. I would rarely see my older brother too, since he got chased out of the house when I was 5 or so, and I've only seen my older sister 10 times or something my whole life.

At school I actually had a decent social life, several times I had my own little group of 3-4 people that I would lead, and in 4th grade I was the best friend of the class' "chad" so to speak; that same kid introduced me to anime, which basically became my downfall though.

Because my parents were always at work, and because I spent my entire childhood at the internet cafe without being let outside I couldn't navigate the streets at all, and due to that I spent every summer vacation at home with nothing to do, instead of playing with school friends.

At that time(summer vac of 4th grade) I had already learned english well enough to read english subtitles on anime without problem, and my brother had recently given me his PC too, so I started to watch anime on my PC, all the time. But that soon became a coping mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



I hope you're ok.


going through the same shit as you man.
not that it means much coming from some ghost on a forum, but I hope things get less terrible for you.

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just figured out I suffer from this shit, and it really explains a lot of the shit I went through and the hellish state is trapped in now. so I was wondering if any of you anons are suffering from the same shit?

but before it's asked no schizoid personality disorder is not related to schizophrenia.
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While it comes off as just a personality type, there is definitely something going on in the brain that I think qualifies it as a non-disruptive disorder. There are things that I and other people diagnosed share that we have no business sharing due to how different our circumstances were/are. Regardless of time and place, even across continents, cultures and upbringing, we share very specific traits, actions we take/activities we do, and interests. It's not just 'you dont like people but are lonely' as it tends to be portrayed, though that is the core of it.
The issue with mental disorder diagnosis is that it requires the diagnosed disorder to cause negative outcomes. I don't believe SPD causes negative outcomes on it's own. You're far more likely to get a bad life from chronic depression than if you exclusively have SPD. I believe that it's a disorder in the sense that there are wires crossed in the brain that are not meant to be crossed in such a way by default.

I find it hard to describe what exactly I mean about shared traits and what makes it different from a personality type. I'm an examples person my brain works on imagery and comparisons, technical description and writing isn't my strength. If you'd like I could perhaps use myself or characters from media to express how an individual with SPD experiences life in a uniquely different way than both healthy people and those with other mental disorders.


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Just for the record, in order for a set of exhibited experiences or behaviors to be considered a "personality disorder", it isn't even necessarily a prerequisite that the brain be "wired" abnormally. From wikipedia on personality disorders: "Personality disorders (PD) are a class of mental disorders characterized by enduring maladaptive patterns of behavior, cognition, and inner experience, exhibited across many contexts and deviating from those accepted by the individual's culture. These patterns develop early, are inflexible, and are associated with significant distress or disability."

That's an important distinction because, in order for a personality disorder to be diagnosed, all that is required is that you meet the behavioral or experiential criteria laid out (Typically the ones laid out in the ICD or DSM.) It could be, that you meet those criteria, but there isn't necessarily any abnormalities in your brain.

So when you say "I believe that it's a disorder in the sense that there are wires crossed in the brain that are not meant to be crossed in such a way by default.", while this could be the case, and it very well may be the case, it isn't a necessity that it be the case for you to be considered a schizoid. It is actually the personality itself that is the object of the diagnosis, not some abnormality of the brain it indicates. Obviously, PD's aren't pointless diagnosis's, since individuals experiencing them often experience distress as a result. But what about when they don't? Can you even call it a disorder? I'd argue not.
…At least, that's what my infinitesimally small understanding of personality disorders is. I don't really believe anything I say with certainty.

>If you'd like I could perhaps use myself or characters from media to express how an individual with SPD experiences life in a uniquely different way than both healthy people and those with other mental disorders.

I'm interested.


But reading through this, I just realized that I inadvertently made an argument in favor of SPD as a diagnosis.

>Obviously, PD's aren't pointless diagnosis's, since individuals experiencing them often experience distress as a result. But what about when they don't? Can you even call it a disorder? I'd argue not.

If you flip this around, the conclusion becomes "If the set of behaviors or experiences DOES cause distress, then SPD is useful as a diagnosis"


> It is actually the personality itself that is the object of the diagnosis, not some abnormality of the brain it indicates.
Some personality disorders have diagnosis criteria that I would not call personality traits though. Most of them have widely recognized symptoms that aren't part of the diagnosis criteria either, but are seen in pretty much every person with the disorder in question. The name personality disorder is bad I think, the definition itself is far broader than just personality.
The whole field of medical psychology looks like a circus to me though so what do I know lol. I'm no professional.

>I'm interested.

I have two examples. One is from a video game and is the bulk of this text because it requires explanation. The 2nd is a character from a book that I recommend reading or listening to, it's only a few hours long and youtube has plenty of readings. The book is called The Stranger by Albert Camus, it's a good portrayal that represents SPD very well as a whole. It's from the main characters perspective so it gets you inside his mind and how he thinks and views things.

The other character is the Outsider from Dishonored. He doesn't really represent SPD as a whole, but the social/emotional aspects that people would typically see are well represented by him. He lives the perfect schizoid life.

The most obvious part I think is that the Outsider lives within The Void, a world he can shape to his will and is kind of like a dream. When he wants to interact with the real world he can without any issue. This is like the schizoid fantasy that every person with SPD has. Since people with SPD don't have superpowers though retreating into a fantasy life is an unhealthy daydream at best :). It's easy to get so lost in your fantasies you mix up real memories and fantasy ones.

The Outsider also gets to have relationships entirely on his own terms. He appears and disappears on a whim, only interacting with others when he feels like it. He chooses a few favorites to fulfill all his social needs. However, these favorites have no way to contact the Outsider in return.
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Thank you for the analysis. Sounds a bit like what I'm going through.

Not pleasant.

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I've been thinking about this for quite a long time. I'm a hikki and NEET, don't have an education and am disabled. What are some ways I could I get by when/if things go sour, or if I want to leave this lifestyle? I am probably too far gone already, but hopefully one of these can work for you. This topic gets discussed a lot in NEET/hikki communities, but I'm mentioning a lot stuff I don't see listed elsewhere. Don't believe anyone who tells you "bro you have to go out and work a job, sorry, that's life." Fuck that noise! Some of these are fully sustainable, some are risky, just for short-term cash, or a small amount of passive income. Some of these are kind of out there and and may not work well in practice.

(You'll want to read the first reply to this thread for a continuation, the body was way too long.)

>Pornographic artist/developer

Porn artists and porn game developers can make serious money through both commissions and Patreon. The more depraved/niche you're willing to do (gay, furry, scat etc.), the better the pay is. Porn games can also make a lot more money than just doing porn art.

>Boosting people, competitive vidya

I've done this when I was a GM Overwatch player, but I don't play that game anymore. With enough skill and time put in, you could sustain yourself completely with this. Hard part is getting a reputation at the beginning, you need to be patient. Should be smooth sailing from there, as long as major changes to the game don't fuck you up.

>Game cheat developer

Subscription private cheats. You can read and learn a lot about cheat development on forums like UnknownCheats. It's really not that hard; if you know C or C++, you're ready to get started. Cheat development is fun, too. Alternatively, use your undetected private cheat for boosting people more reliably.

>The Amazon affiliate program

This is a little complicated to explain here. It involves creating websites and SEO. You'll want to read this, it actually has some good information, explained better than I ever could: https://old.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/5mzpz6/in_2016_i_made_31615415_via_the_amazon_affiliate/
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How plausible is it for me to make money(preferably about or above 1k$ a month) translating stuff? As you can see, I already know english, my mother tongue too, though I doubt anybody would request a translation of it, and I am currently learning japanese. I'd rather not translate porn games, but I will if there isn't a way for me to earn a living off of translating non-sexual content.
In addition, where and how should I get started, and what language could I learn in the future to make easy translation money?


if you're asking in the first place you're not qualified. nothing is easy.


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What a stupid reply


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