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 No.6530[Reply]

I will die alone.

 No.6532

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We all will

 No.6621

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Can't wait to.



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 No.6594[Reply]

I blocked almost all imageboards, forums, porn sites, discord and youtube from my router, changed the password to a random one hard to type one, and scheduled an email to be sent to myself with the password one mont from now.

For three days I have been cut from using the internet as cheap entertainment. I wonder if I should have cut music streaming sites too.

Seems like I missed blocking this site but it doesn't seem too active anyway so I'm safe.

Manga and books are getting a bit stale. Went through four of each.

I don't know what I'm going to accomplish with this. I'm curious if anyone has done this nosurf/nofap/whatever thing. I don't really care for the outcome.

 No.6595

>>6594
As you i've been fighting with all of the poison that the world of the internet had normalized, i can tell you from my experience that just virtually blocking the websites won't really help at all in the long term. A thing that has really helped me is thinking about my condition as a living and rational human being that has control over his actions, if i fall on watching porn or whatever thing that causes me danger it isn't because some strange possesion that's going over me, it's because i voluntarily wanted do it and i did so, and if i have all the control to do those things that are really hurting me, why can't i do the same for just stop doing it? That thought is something that i've managed to be really present in my mind. Another thing that i suggest you to do is seeking help, go to a psychologist and talk about your problems i can ensure you that will really help. I'm sorry if i didn't explain myself well i ain't a native english speaker. I really hope that you will be clearing your mind and having a good life.

 No.6597

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A month is excessive. Nofap/nosurf don't really work as advertised. I recommend going 2 days without internet first. During that time, you either do something productive or find offline entertainment. What you're looking for is similar to a dopamine detox, only it's a "digital" detox. What difficulty do you want?

a) No Internet (internal network traffic is fine)
b) No Internet, PC, or phone if you have one
c) No screens at all. Only paper media, radio etc. are allowed for entertainment.

As >>6595 alluded to, blocking sites or relying on other external resources won't work as well as your own willpower. You must be able to get to a point where you still have unfettered access but can disconnect at will. At that point, you're using your devices and not the other way around. I stopped using shitcord entirely from mid-March to mid-May this year and it was very calming and empowering. More free time, less pseudo-social urges. Regarding youtube specifically, you can take away 90% of its addictive power by not using the app ever, and only looking at your subscriptions. You can even make RSS feeds out of your subs.

 No.6610

I've taken various internet breaks from a few months to a year. You kinda have to have a solid goal your internet addiction was keeping you from achieving to get real results, otherwise you just feel kind of bored and are likely to come back the same as ever and repeat the same habits.

But maybe after a month of cold turkey you'll see how vapid and dull a lot of the content out there is. Most of it feels so stupid I just cba to look or care. imo even the hardcore digital/dopamine detox stuff is in a similar realm of retarded and still saps up your time. Just think of the internet as a pantry packed full of sweets you know better than to binge on and practice mindfulness. But yeah, sometimes it helps to throw out all the junk at first.



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 No.5407[Reply]

Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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 No.6473

Every so often I get really horny and watch a lot of porn. I get paranoid about porn being deleted from the internet forever so I save it on my hard drives. Every so often, I stumble on a relatively unknown pornstar who is attractive, but usually retired or mainly only does a bit of modeling and selective paid porn clips on clips4sale or something. I usually get really invested in them and track their social media, and if they aren't active or oddly stopped being active somewhat recently, I try to track down anyone that may know their status. I download as much of their catalog as I can find that is available anywhere online and they don't leave my head for maybe weeks or even months. Especially if they are still silent on social media and that small connection I may feel will be gone.

 No.6475

>>5407
There's a person I've known online for over a year that I wanted to get in touch with in a "I want to be friends with you" way. Recently I started thinking about it again, and for a few weeks I struggled with an urge to message them. Eventually, I cold emailed them a short message, they saw it and I got a response. That got rid of this specific uncertainty and got it off my mind. I wrote multiple drafts before I ended up with the one I sent.

 No.6477

>feel like a creep
>check favorite dead board
>whole ass thread of fags doing the same shit
>feel better

 No.6566

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>>6477
feels good to know you aren't the only fucking dumbass that does shit that may be weird

 No.6571

>>5407
I've fallen in love with someone over the internet who I didn't know what they look like.



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 No.1505[Reply]

I miss the NEET life I had…

> Current life in an apartment with girlfriend

> Have a job

But I'm still not happy. I feel I don't have enough free time. If I'm not working I have too little time left to sit down and actually enjoy a game, and when I don't do that I have to invest time in my relationship, and when I'm not even doing that, I have responsibilities to take care of.

Even if I have a job, I do NOT have money for myself, at all. When I was a NEET all my money and time was only for me, myself, and I. I don`t wanna go to work, I wanna sit down on my ass and make games and play games, but this lifestlye is long gone, no longer available. I regret some life decisions I made, I really, really wish I could still be a NEET.

Best scenario would be: Keeping my gf, become a NEET again, but this is clearly impossible.

Have you ever experienced regret from no longer being a NEET?
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 No.6485

>>1505
You could make your videogame making hobby into a something you get paid for , for example you set up a patreon account for donations.
Its not much money but it could help , maybe could even become a sustainable method of living if you get enought patrons

 No.6529

>>1505
Don't listen to the anons telling you to drop your gf. I've been in a relationship for 2 years now and it's literally the only thing that has prevented me from spiraling even more. The problem isn't her, it's your job. Find a way to work less so you have more time to yourself.

 No.6531

>>1505
>I'm still not happy
There's some root problem you're not adressing.

 No.6559

>>6529
>The problem isn't her, it's your job. Find a way to work less so you have more time to yourself.

He did say best case scenario is become neet and keep GF rather than NEET and drop GF or have or NEET and no GF

 No.6560

>>6559
I felt the need to reiterate I guess because other posters were telling him to drop his girlfriend and I think this is a bad idea.



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 No.6375[Reply]

I am hikikomori and I used to get upset about it but then I tried to overcome agoraphobia and social anxiety only to discover I prefer being by myself.
There is nothing out there for me so I sit inside and listen to music and I feel very tranquil yet suicidal at the same time I think it is peak apathy. I have given up on myself and that is honestly ok with me I see life differently now and am gla I spent near a decade as a hikikoori.
I have had a lot of time to investigate thoughts and the world from reading and experience but have come to understand that there is no understanding and trying to do so will only lead you to the abyss.
Reason leads to pessimism and bleak existential despair because we are human and cannot cognize beyond what we can observe without building on top of many abstractions.
I might die or I might not and none of that matters unless I think it does but I did want to make this post to try encourage some other hikki not to improve as such but really think about everything.
If you do not desire a normalfag life why bother trying to gain one and if you do ask yourself why.
I took a knife to my watch and cut a sliver off as I hope that it may help someone else.
It can always get worse in life that is a certainty but also as the Buddhists say our desires bring us pain however we need to juggle well and not go to any extreme with ascetism and just throw our hands up whilst experiencing the wind brushing against our face and accept it as it is without any other added abstractions.
Mindfulness is important a lot of us we think far too much it causes much of our social anxiety also and it is not bad to think a lot but we have to realize our cognatize skills have become over extended and are useless do you understand what I mean? do you understand what I mean when I say that empiricism can never explain anything beyond an observation of what appears to be and a philosopher can never explain anything beyond a structure built from abstractions which are untestable?
We cannot know and the more you know the more you know that a universal theory or answer to life is out of our hands for it requires understanding every single moving part that exists and we will never know because we are limited that is a theme repeated throughout life.
We could birth a machine with a semblance of consciousness a meta human but no matter how "intelligent" it too would be trapped within the simulacrum from which it was constructPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.6384

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>do you understand what I mean?
Anon… I have to tell you, your post is to deep for my anus

 No.6534

thank you



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 No.6442[Reply]

I hate people who glorify pain and suffering and "hard work" at the expense of your own health, free time and happiness. Suffering doesn't make you deep, it's not meaningful, and most importantly it's not necessary. These people brag about working 13 hours a day just so that other people can see how much they can endure. From an outside perspective, they look stupid. If you can find shortcuts, why not try them?

The people who win at life are the ones who know how to enjoy it, and you just know that the martyrs are seething with jealousy. This is where their criticism comes from (mainly about freelancers but also some neets), that they are shallow, that they have it easy, or "why do they make money sitting on their ass while I put in hard work"? Well, tough luck I guess? You're not superior for having a shitty life.
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 No.6480

>>6442
I usually assume you work 13h with shortcuts , smart AND hard.

Also i kinda with i had their willpower so i can do stuff i like and not burn out. A subconcious part of me kinda wants to be like that but it might be because i have the opposite problem of having piss poor willpower/motivation even towards doing stuff i like (burning on hobbies a lot) rather than a desire to work myself to death , could also be soceital glorification of this lifestyle influencing me a bit (you are not immune to propagnda) .

I do recognise its unhealthy tho.

 No.6521

>>6444
> Otherwise all you'll ever know is sitting at home watching anime and being kinda comfy.
And what's wrong with that? That's hardly an argument in favour of suffering.

 No.6522

>>6521
"Kinda" is the key word. You will never discover the real joys of living. It's an existence you could take or leave.

 No.6523

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>>6522
>the real joys of living
Life is only pain. Why be some fake conformist wannabe yuppie when you can embrace the truth and write poetry about death and post it online in a shrine to your pain?

 No.6524

>>6442
I wholeheartedly agree. This is especially present in the field I was thinking about getting into - Computer Science.
It seems everyone there tries to become ultra-productive little code monkeys, spending most of their time doing pointless boring shit.
Even though, I'm somewhat interested in the field itself, this sort of behavior turns me off from it really hard.



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 No.6062[Reply]

I'm curious, have any refugees from magicchan or /tower/ found their way here?
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 No.6200

>>6172
You're fucking retarded.

 No.6205

>>6169
>>6174
>>6197
Not that anon but we can now be found at https://anon.cafe/tower/ . Hope you guys find this post.

Are any of you the mage with the 2 dogs? It would be nice to see him again

 No.6211

>>6169
You still here, anon?

 No.6500

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>>6211
oh yes, kosmiku warrior raidy here.

relaaaaxxxxxxxx.

 No.6520

>>6062
>>6169
what happened , is magicchan and magichan any different from wizchan where they call women succubi or whatever the fuck

Also looked up wizchan again to see if i remembered it correctly , seems like wizchan is down as well.

Dont know if the term succubus has a negative connotation in the board culture or its a term that carries no bad connotation because its evolved from the term wizard as virgin because women can take away your magic virginity essence (and your "wizard" status) as i havent been on the site, just saw like 2 threads

I have stumbled upon https://incelwiki.com/w/Wizchan somehow

According to the wiki: "Though still part of the incelosphere, the forum is pretty hostile to incels who express that involuntariness"

I can assume succubus is supposed to be some sort of slur



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 No.6231[Reply]

I have failed again it seems that I keep wasting a day away and then starting the work at the last moment, I have tried every reformation but it all makes it go worse I don't know what I can do to fix it, I dunno what gets into me in the day, I have no idea about why I made the decisions I made, what the fuck do I do? what the fuck can I do right now to ensure that I don't fuck up tomorrow morning? it's as if I am a different person, I really have no fucking idea anymore, everything I have tried has failed, I can't fucking give up.

I broke every vow I ever took over the past few years, I lied and lied whenever it was convenient

I was able to stop being a neet but I only ended up making my situation worse, I am trying to cover HS with homeschooling since I dropped out ages ago.

I have no idea what I should do I wish I was convinced in what I was doing but every fibre of my body wants to go back to being a neet, I have to cover up an years syllabus in 2-3 weeks if I don't wanna waste an year.

 No.6312

>>6231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcpGonKvJEI&list=OLAK5uy_ll80T7kcfjh1kSxtIVwBQ2ciISob1Kv0I&index=10

What exactly is keeping you from achieving, anon? Lack of concentration? Laziness? Too much to do?

 No.6506

>>6312
>>6231

From my personal experience social media is a big time sink , think reddit snapchat instagram and tiktok and perhaps even youtube. I whould say youtube is the best out of the aforementioned imo as "entertainment platforms" because you can just put in in the backround while you persue a hobby (ie. drawing) but can still be a big time sink.

And you dont even realise it , you just get from work/school/wakeup/whatever the fuck you where supposed to do then go on social media and start mindlessly scrolling , its more of a reflex/reaction than anything , like if bored then social media , but because you get a steady ammount of dopamine/seretonin you keep browsing , the ammount isnt great , its just enought to make you feel "meh" and most importantly for the owners of the app, its enought to keep you there for the longest ammount of time.

Again , its more of a reflex than an addiction , i have quit reddit by getting the "delayed gratification" plug in , setting a 30 sec timer on reddit every 5 min and it seems to have worked. While i turned to youtube and grindy repetitive videogames/playing them in a grindy repetitive manner/stuff that doesnt require a lot of mental effort.

I whould usually have some sort of withdrawl when i stopped playing videogames (it was just mental: aka bad feelings like apathy) but for reddit nothing changed wherer i was browsing or not. same sensation of apathy. Just the reflex like sensation that comes from time to time by some triggers that i am not aware of (likely boredom triggers it time to time) that is usually fought off by the 30s countdown

TL:DR: Quit social media , its not as hard as you think it is,the delayed gratification plugin is a god send for it.

(Delayed gratification plugin: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/delayed-gratification/ifhndomfnbmggdgodaicfebeggdphlcn?hl=en)



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 No.5331[Reply]

When I have to interact with people, quite often, they will find a way to misinterpret my anxiety. There are many misinterpretations, but they all seem to revolve around the other person involved. They think I must only be anxious because of them, not realizing that people with social anxiety are pretty much always anxious around people, except perhaps around their family members or a small group of friends. But around people they don't know, they will be anxious.

I have been accused of racism for being anxious around non-white people at my college's cafeteria, despite the fact that I get social anxiety around white people too. One time, a female counselor implied that I must be anxious around women, not understanding that I am anxious around men too. People have said thinks like "anon is bad at talking to girls" or "or anon gay?" but I am just bad at talking to people in general. Saying I'm "bad at talking to girls" implies that I'm good at talking to guys, which is not true.

The female counselor I saw sent me to a male counselor in the same counseling office place and I was anxious around him too. He seemed to take it personally and thought it was about him as an individual. Very unprofessional across the board. He also asked me about drugs and alcohol and I told him about my drinking, and so he thought I must be anxious because of drinking too often (it's the opposite: I drink too much to cope with anxiety, not the other way around).

Another time, someone invited me to volunteer at a homeless shelter. I was sleep-deprived and also still had social anxiety, because I always have it, and being in a situation where I had to serve people food and talk to them made it especially bad. The person who invited me implied that I was afraid of homeless people, even though they've seen how I act around other people.

A final example was how I was invited by my friend to spend Thanksgiving with him and his family. They are extremely loud and outgoing and it was a little intimidating with all the questions and being put on the spot a few times. My friend thought I really enjoyed checking my phone, when in reality I was only doing it to avoid making eye contact or to cope with my extreme anxiety.

I don't get the impression that very many people truly understand what I'm going through, and these accusations make it even worse.

Have people ever misinterpreted your mental health issues? If so, what happened?
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 No.6490

>>5341
They do. As a rule, good experiences that are the polar opposite of the bad experiences you've had help healing.

 No.6495

Basically everyone in highschool thought I'm an asshole because I didn't say hello or talked to them. Even a fucking teacher called me out and said I'm a bad person for doing that to my classmates. Like they couldn't even imagine it can be hard for someone to do.

 No.6496

>>6495
Normalfags really have no emotional intelligence

 No.6498

I'm not sure if I had social anxiety because almost everyone stared at me, or the other way around. What the fuck was so interesting about me that they felt the need to stare? I dressed in nondescript single-color clothes, combed my hair like Chad, and walked normally. Or was it that they can tell I'm trying not to make eye contact? They can tell what you're looking at, so maybe they can tell what you're averting your gaze from? Similar to the MC in "Watashi ni Shinasai", my look of terror may have been misinterpreted as a cold glare, minus the glasses.

 No.6499

>>6498
Yeah, it's the body language. Also if you have a "resting face" you're pretty much evil for them.



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 No.4755[Reply]

Ever consider taking a vow of silence?

Like I get so tired of people calling me stupid or retarded… or just giving me *that* look. It would be so much easier to just shut up forever.
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 No.5239

>>5236
>>5237
NEETs/hikkis tend to have issues like anxiety and depression, right? Aren't psychopaths people who lack empathy or feelings? I think that, in order to be a NEET/hikki, you have to feel emotions too intensely. Social anxiety is caused by thinking about other people's judgments too much. If someone was a psychopath (or maybe I am getting words confused here), they wouldn't care at all what other people think. In fact, that kind of insanity could lead to extremely high confidence.

 No.5241

>>5237
>>5239
He's implying that if a psycho can feign emotions they do not possess, "so can you", not that anybody here is a psychopath.

 No.5271

I want to send my love to all of you anons, and I feel you, as someone who's been bullied in an inescapable setting, and considered this. I recommend writing in a journal, talking to yourself, or if you can, finding one person that you can talk to about random things. Expressing yourself regularly will give you a sense of being a stable, logical, single human being, and other people's behavior doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you. Our minds are beautiful and we were all meant.

 No.6491

>>5271
Only the bullied retards like to spout nonsensical and delusional crap like this. You should have been bullied more.

 No.6494

>>6491
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge.



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