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 No.2920[Reply]

Hey anons, I'm conducting a survey on NEET/Hikki/Freeters, I was hoping some of you might be willing to try it. (pic unrelated, art by Tadanori Yokoo)

https://goo.gl/forms/mUUH3ddYwgyEg2lz2
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 No.2924

Ally's are just someone who supports NEETs/Hikkis

 No.2926

At least be so kind to update us on the project here if you're making advances or present your results.

 No.2961

Hey Anon, thanks for helping out, so far I'm doing research on the support groups and the need for support among isolated people. Early stages right now, but judging from interviews and the survey results online communities aren't ideal support networks but for those who only have online support they're incredibly important. Whatcha think?

 No.2990

>>2961
Well, yea, most online communities are pretty toxic for anyone, NEET or not. And I don't mean the silly buzzword you'd hear from rainbow haired college girls, but actually toxic. I mean, you don't have to improve yourself if you surround yourself with likeminded people who won't confront you and just filter those who do.

 No.3767

>>2990
Could this be quote of the year?



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 No.3734[Reply]

i feel bad for lurking in a thread like this, so i'll post this to feel better about myself

 No.3735

only quality toast in this bread

 No.3737

>>3735
Just wait til you see my butter spread

 No.3738

What a loaf of bullshit.

 No.3739

Have we started the leavening?

Yes! The bread rises!



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 No.2821[Reply]

As someone who has no "real" friends, my only source of companionship has been online friends. After 2 years or so I fear this group of my "close" friends have all grown tired of me, just as all of my friends in high-school would. I'm more on the quiet and shy side but I try my best to message my friends online everyday, but recently in the past few months they've seemed disinterested in me, not very receptive to me in group chats or in private messages. Eventually some, who I would message everyday have stopped messaging me and even ignoring me most of the time when I message them.

Maybe it's stupid but I feel so worthless as a person, as if I'm not even worth talking to because this happens every time, with every friend group I join. In school I was friendly with everyone, but then I'd realise the people I thought were my best friends were out partying and would make group chats while excluding me.

I got over this and felt alright cutting everyone off and being a NEET/hikki, but I thought I've actually been able to bond with these people online so it hurts especially when I know that this group of people are still messaging and calling each-other daily to play video games without me. There hasn't been any sort of fight between us or anything, so why is it always me that people get tired of? It's not like I'm spergy/edgy/mean to people or anything, so I just struggle to understand it.

Sorry for the rant, just upset and wanted to be able to write about it. Is there anyone else that has/is going through this?
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 No.3728

>disinterested in me
this was the case all my life in middle school. The other kids always called each other to do things but never invited me to any activity unless I organised it myself and called them. At some point I grew tired of this and just gave up. I am just too boring to get others to be interested in me and I do not have the interest anymore to actively seek friends anymore.
I just wanted to say that I can relate to what you must feel like. Never beeing desired like the "cool kids".

I also had online friends from my counter strike source days. It was kind of fun because we had insider jokes and I joined one of their clubs/clans. We were just regulars at the same server. Then I became less active since 2011 and now in my steam friends list you can see tons of people who had their last access to steam over a year ago. They either grew up or died. There are 3 guys left who are regularly online. Nowadays nobody bothers to even send me friend requests anymore but I also have to say that I rarely play anymore.

>this happens every time, with every friend group I join. In school I was friendly with everyone, but then I'd realise the people I thought were my best friends were out partying and would make group chats while excluding me.

I know this feeling and you are not alone. Was with me as well. I realized that I never had real friends. Just people I hung out with. Even the guys who were into my interests (anime, card games) had their other social circles where I was no part of.

>so why is it always me that people get tired of?

I don't know why you are in this situation but I can tell you the reason for mine. It is because I am a boring person. Nobody wants to be around a rain cloud so it is only natural that people would not seek my compagnionship by themselves.

>>2823
this would support my theory about beeing boring
Also, one of the guys from our former clique has contacted me as of lately. I believe he wants or needs something of me and I am soon to find out what it is. He was like this even 10 years ago.

 No.3729

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>>2870
>>2877
I know it's been months since you made this post but any tip or tag to talk with other social retards? And I mean true social retards. I don't watch anime nor play vidya anymore, and my knowledge regarding other topics is pleb tier. Been getting interested in history lately but I'd rather listen than talk. Im not the kind of person to argue endlessly over politics either.

There has to be a group for people with rotten social skills that isn't some meme forum like the social anxiety one.

 No.3730

>>3729
>Le your posting in one
Sorry anon, just getting that tremendously unhelpful answer out of the way before someone says it unironically.

 No.3731

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First step to living an utterly miserable life is giving this much care to how others perceive you. Focus on yourself for a while, everything should be done for your own sake. Companions are nice but you shouldn't have to modify your interests or personality to earb brownie points. You'll end up feeling artificial. It was all a fake facade because you're insecure of who you truly are.

 No.3732

>>3731
>earb
I meant earn



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 No.3721[Reply]

Hi guys, long time neet here, first time poster. I have to say, /hikki/ is a fine board. It's here that I have finally found troubled souls such as myself. In reading these posts, I have realised that I am not alone in my struggle.

It's refreshing to learn that there are other young men and women who enjoy sleeping in until 1pm and sitting on the computer all night. Up until now I thought I was the only person in the world who was so inclined to do this. My therapist kept saying I was being lazy, but I knew that fat sow was wrong.

To kick start a discussion for this thread, I'd like to pose a question: How do you con your local dole centre into giving you cutter for fags and alcohol? My mother is quite keen on that sort of thing, and I would like to secure a steady supply so that I can carry on with my lifestyle. I was thinking of pretending that I had autism or something like that. Seems to be all the rage these days. My mother was watching a show on the netflix related to it.

Anyway please let me know if you have any tactics when dodging the career advisors' interregation techniques.

Regards

John

 No.3722

oh my lord OP i am so totally with you on this… i used to only be able to get the tip to my tonsil, but after lurking this board for some time i have been able to overcome my limitations and push it all the way to the esophagus. my bf is very pleased to say the least. just another thank u to all the hikki posters out there for sharing there knowldge :)

 No.3726

>sleeping in until 1pm and sitting on the computer all night
story of my life brudder. Whenever I have the freedom to do so, I do it. I am naturally predestined for this somehow.

>lazy

I am surprised how many people misinterpret our situations as simple laziness.

>How do you con your local dole centre into giving you cutter for fags and alcohol?

I don't understand your slang but I assume you want unemployment bucks. To get them you sign up at your local job center. Then you jump through their hoops and go to courses or trainings and send out applications. When you go to applications you can either be dedicated to find a job or just fuck everything up bombastically. At the beginning they will not bully you but as time goes on they will become more aggressive when it comes to you finding a job.

Your time there will usually be limited to a year or two and if you fail to find a job they will stop paying you and you are officially not unemployed anymore. You will then be unemployable. It can help you to get a diagnose for a medical condition or welfare but to rely on 3rd parties for income is nasty and you will have never ending paranoia of losing your bucks one day. If I were you, I would start a side business in any case. Like buying stuff from somewhere and reselling it on ebay. I do this with video games and trading cards and I earn some pocket money every month on it.



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 No.326[Reply]

Since the beginning of my NEET status, there's one thing that's always bothered me: the percieved lack of a reason to exist.

I just feel guilty, being such a burden. It wouldn't matter how much those that care of me would be willing to accept it. I really haven't changed since last year, and I'm starting to feel really bad about it.

How do you work through it, fellow NEETs? What do you tell yourself is the reason that you should continue breathing the next day?

I'm not considering suicide, this is simply the most relatable image of Tomoko I found, but I'm definitely not feeling great.
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 No.3677

>>3670
That's just a mental-cop out. Is there a difference between a, "fake", emotion and a real one? Being a person whose death would benefit society isn't something to be proud of. Well, whatever gets you through your day I guess.

 No.3713

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>>326

what do you mean burden? you are a burden by normie standards. But standards of the society is you are a burden the second you are not contributing anything to others. Its sick altruism that you shouldnt feel bad for ignoring.

w i z a rd

 No.3714

>>3713
No. You got it wrong. You're a burden if you're a burden. If you have enough money to pay for your own living expenses without relying on anybody else, normies wont think badly of you. Hell, they'll probably be jealous. If taxpayers have to take part of their paychecks and give it to you so you can keep buying vidya and consuming the planet's oxygen and limited resources, or your parents have to do it instead, obviously they'll think you're a burden. Even if you just live in the woods and scour for food, they wont they you're a leech unless they're a communist.

 No.3715

>>3714
>normies wont think badly of you. Hell, they'll probably be jealous
One thing doesn't contradict the other though.

 No.3716

>>3715
Huh. yeah. I guess I should have said that not only will they not think badly of you, they might also be jealous. People tend to dislike people who they're jealous of though. Well, they wont think of you as a, "burden", at least.



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 No.942[Reply]

Hi there. I've been a struggling NEET for years now.

In the past 6-8 years I have had several entry level jobs lasting between 2-6 months on average.

For 4 years I have been a complete NEET, (aside from a few single courses), because I was hit by a car.

I live with my parents since then, comfortably, but with no hope of meeting new people, finding (and desperately wanting to have) a girlfriend, or feeling a part of any social community that could help me branch out.

I do deal with physical pain (mostly in my back), which can be limiting.

My *MAIN* problem is that I can't think of enough pro's to work myself out of this situation. I'm on Welfare, so I make enough money to feed myself, and I can entertain myself and even learn skills at home comfortably, but I am very alone.

Just wondering if anybody has any advice for working yourself out of the NEET-hold and becoming a social, or "normal" person again.

 No.944

Having welfare got me a lot of benefits that made school practically free. Still gotta pay for books. It was useful because I am not very good at learning new skills without being shown. It makes me happy just to learn to be productive.

My back has been the biggest challenge in school but luckily my SSI also allows me to have medicaid and medicare. I finally made a resolution to see a doctor and went through a lot of hoops to make myself my own payee so I could get my proof of insurance back (since I lost it) and start a health care plan.

I'm hoping they can get my a chiropractor, maybe physical therapy, or at least some decent pain medecine.

 No.945

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>Just wondering if anybody has any advice for working yourself out of the NEET-hold and becoming a social, or "normal" person again.

Hi P,
I can tell you how I became a more social person: I talked to people and went to events. Any time I hear about an event in my community (any kind of event with the possibility for social interaction), go to the event and talk to the people there! You may have to learn new skills you're unfamiliar with, but that's part of the fun. Realize you are going to make mistakes, but be genuine and sincere. You may be surprised at the number of people in the world who will help you if you are a genuine person who asks for help.

You can also look around to see what events aren't being advertised. Go to your local community college or university and see what events are advertised on the bulletin boards. You can also do this at coffee shops. Additionally, you can walk around town, making a note of every store/building you see. You might be surprised how easy it is to overlook a business or place to socialize until you explicitly look for one.

I have never been a normal person for a single day in my life; I can't help you there.

 No.3673

Sometimes I wish I could have been victim of a disease or accident just to have en excuse for all my failings in life. The older you get, the harder it gets to shoulder all the shame that accumulates over time.



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 No.3638[Reply]

Please help me. I am do gay i cant stop buying male prostitutes but only if they are black.. my bank account is in the red my family hates me. IF ONLY I DIDNT BECOME A MEMBER OF GNAA(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

 No.3645

Sei, could you please ban this edgy, prepubescent faggot from 4chan who doesn't understand the purpose of the /ot/ board?

 No.3647

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>Sei, could you please ban this edgy, prepubescent faggot from 4chan who doesn't understand the purpose of the /ot/ board?
This isn't the purpose of /ot/ either, my friend.



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 No.813[Reply]

Who are neets going to vote for in 2016?

Donald Trump is the meme candidate but Bernie is offering free shit which is good for neets like us.
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 No.826

>>823
If I had a nickle for every jackass who has already said that. I will have a nice laugh when Trump wins and all of you are still here.

 No.827

>>826
And I feel very, very sorry for all those unfortunate enough to not have an escape route from the inevitable martial law enforced plutocracy that would emerge from that government.

 No.830

>>827
I don't know where you people get this from. It seems like 99% of people who hate Trump haven't listened to a word he has said.

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 No.930

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"dude weed/college lmao"

contemporary politics is kuso tire anyway, WHO CARES

t. angsty suburb teen from the 90s



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 No.836[Reply]

Hi all,

I posted a few times on the old board several years ago whilst I was NEET after dropping out of uni.

Just recently been made redundant and I am going to go through the NEET lifestyle again.

Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?

Cheers.

 No.837

i dont know much about uk neets but what do you mean redundant?

what did you major?

 No.838

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>Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?

Can you go back to university? Fight hard to graduate from a university. University has helped me greatly; I've met several important mentors and learned a great deal about socialization, fitness, programming, and drawing, just to name a few. I was a NEET in the past and now I have professional programming prospects.

Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend. It took me about two years from when I started attending to become what I consider to be a serious student, and I took summer school. It make take you a shorter or longer time.

 No.839

>Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend.
This

 No.840

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>>837
Did Economics before dropping out from LSE, too boring and workload was too much, I spent most of my time playing poker online.

I was in a job and they got rid of me because they were losing business so they paid me like £400 an said you're fired with compliments.

Last time I was NEET I lived with my parents and still had Unibux, now I've got barely £200 and the belt is tightening. Signed up for JSAbux tho.. $70 a week..

>>838 I would not mind to but I suppose you hit the nail on the head, I would probably attend and not graduate if I'm being frank. Besides that I couldn't fund the university and neither could my parents, who whilst employed are carrying loads of debt.

I've applied to some jobs… but no luck and when I look in the mirror I don't see much staring back..

 No.841

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>>840
You can definitely go to a university if you are willing to make enough sacrifices. You can eventually get scholarship money in places you wouldn't expect if you are willing to make enough sacrifices.

Another thing I would suggest is studying some skill in your spare time. Any skill will work, but some are much better than others (e.g. it will be easier to find people willing to pay you to program than people willing to pay you to play video games). Then, later, after a few years, (this is the important part) figure out how to sell that skill for money.

I currently run a business selling chess lessons to (the parents of) elementary schoolers. I never thought I would make money from playing chess, and I certainly didn't start playing chess with money in mind, but there it is.

You might be surprised to find out what skills you already have if you look inside yourself and what you can sell. I can't give you any specific formula because I was randomly lucky.

However, I can tell you that you don't need to study any one skill exclusively to sell it. My current work is an amalgamation of varying levels of skill at social networking, social skills, dress sense, willpower, physical fitness and attractiveness, punctuality, marketing, teaching, public speaking, awareness of my surroundings, computer skills (yes, really), design (yes, really), and chess ability.

Some ideas* for A+ skills that you can apply to pretty much anything:
Learning (yes, this is a skill. it is at the top of the list on purpose)
Willpower
Marketing
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 No.3096[Reply]

I'm not quite sure what compelled me to post this or what reminded me of this place, but this is the first time I've been on this imageboard in years, perhaps the last time being 2013-2014 as far as I can even remember my time as a hikki. I didn't post very much, and when I did, I made sure not to make a name for myself. I was a hikki for 3 1/2 years, give or take based on what you consider the cut-off between NEET and hikki status. It's been nearly 3 years now since I left that lifestyle and ostensibly cured myself. Not to say I don't still have some mental abnormalities, but they're undetectable, both to myself and to others. I went back to college, graduated with a STEM degree and great grades. I applied for a job a couple weeks ago and am going in for an interview in a few days. I got a gf and lost my virginity last year, and now have a decently large friend group of very normal people that I blend in with completely, and sometimes don't even feel like an outlier around.

I don't mean to bore you with my life story – I just wanted to let you know that it is possible to get better and escape this lifestyle. I won't lie, I sometimes get brief pangs of nostalgia for the days of sleeping 15+ hours a day eating nothing but ramen and wasting all my time on the computer. But I feel okay now. I don't feel afraid, or anxious, or suicidal, or empty, or confused anymore. I feel healthy, I feel comfortable, I feel almost normal. Things can get better. Not just for me, but for you. It's not easy, and I've learned over the years to not try to offer what worked for me as advice, but I just want you all to know that it is possible to get out of this. The world is beautiful unobscured by depression, anxiety, fear, depersonalization, etc. I care about all of you and I want to see you all do good. I won't be sticking around for long – I don't want to reinforce long-dead habits – but I hope one day you can all join me. I love you all. Good luck my friends.
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 No.3184

>>3182
hikki =/= NEET though.

 No.3185

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good for you OP, thanks for remembering us, offering perspective, and letting us share in what for you was victory. i am glad that you achieved your desires.

>no true hikki would ever ____

argumentum ad populum, a purely emotional argument, used in an effort to regulate the hikki/neet community.

>OP's hubris

this deals little with the actual content of the post; given that, according to the sticky, one of the board's primary focuses is advice about "help in escaping the NEET lifestyle," one would think that the input of the ex-NEET/ex-hikki would constitute a valuable contribution to discussion. to the extent that what he wrote is true, his post does offer some degree of perspective on the NEET/hikki experience.

am i wrong?

 No.3354

>>3108
best post on uboachan [SOURCE: 8 yrs lurker]

 No.3355

>>3354
I'm a word smith.

 No.3663

>>3096
I am happy you made it and glad that it turned out so good for you OP. May your happiness be forever for you and your family.



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