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 No.4316[Reply]

My friend was making depressive comments and talking about suicide from over three years ago. We thought it was him trying to get attention, but over time he became more and more serious, until I realized that it wasn't an act. Many of the people who surround him still treat it like he's pretending, but exam season is coming in, and the stress and pessimism is really getting to him. He's recently been talking about staying home because he feels ill, but when he's at home, he plays games until he gets depressed about how much time he's wasted. His parents pressure him about grades, and he's grown an inferiority complex and it's all slowly knawing away at him.
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 No.4331

>>4328
That't mornic. Objects can be refurbished and people are in way as simplistic as onjects.

 No.4332

>>4331
>are in no way as simplistic as objects

 No.4333

>>4331
>>4332
what a mornic thing to say

 No.4334

>>4333
My keyboard isn't working properly right now. That doesn't change the fact that you are an idiot for thinking that people work in the same way as objects.

 No.4343

>>4334
I am not the poster you were debating, you morn



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 No.4184[Reply]

TL;DR Have any of you tried business? If so, what obstacles did you go through, and did it turn out in the end?

I am a NEET with bipolar disorder and possibly autism. I dropped out of high school and got my GED. I went to my local community college and placed into calculus 1. However, once my classes were mostly on campus which was after around 3 quarters I couldn't handle being around people and dropped out. Afterwards I've been doing shit jobs that I've managed only to tolerate max 2 months and that is pushing it. I don't even have my drivers license and I'm like 20. It really fucking sucks. I have great difficulty learning motor skills. I remember I didn't know how to tie my fucking shoes until I was in 6th grade. I am however a little more confident behind the wheel, but not yet to a agreeable level.

Needless to say I'm living with my parents. I do feel somewhat guilty, but after large amounts of self reflection I feel that it isn't worth it. No amount of sulking and pitying is going to change anything. I'm not ashamed of being alive and honestly I couldn't care less if I was homeless. I walked alone in the dark in the middle of winter for like 6 hours just reflecting on my own fears and inhibitions. So what if I die within this moment? So what if society is bigoted and repulsed by eccentrics like us? It is better to go off with a bang than a whimper.

During my time working shit jobs I bought an impressive library of books covering everything from FPGAs, how to write a compiler, to even the internals workings of operating systems. I am very interested in computers and I was thinking of taking toastmaster courses to help me with my non existent social skills. Maybe even getting neetbux for a short while. I really want to roll the dice hard on this one. I am planning on becoming a badass technical contractor, so badass they will be uncompetitive if they choose to pass me up. So that even with my flaws, they are fucked without me.

So, any of you had any success with business? I feel like setting up an LLC and putting myself out there to be optimal. Even if it feels scary inside. Even if it is incredibly irritating and annoying. Even if it is harder than doing the shit jobs I was once doing.

 No.4213

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>>4184

I built two home based businesses - a b&b and a cageless vacation home for dogs. They required little investment (the b&b is also my family house), so the hardest part was actually building up a list of clients. It took time but I got there eventually, and now I can make a decent living with earnings from the two combined. Best part is, I am entirely my own boss, so I can simply turn people down if I can afford it and don't feel like working for a certain period. It goes without saying that, to make something obut of a business like that, you need to have *excellent* people skills, something I was mostly simply born with.

I've been also part timing here and there, mostly to put something in my curriculum that showed I can work under a boss.

 No.4216

>>4184
If you have skills with the hardware you could try flipping computers. I does, however, require upfront purchases and a constant trickle of money for parts. The customers can be rather unfriendly sometimes because they think that you are to blame when they download stuff from every clickbait ad they see on their social media.

Flipping things in general might be a good "soft start" for business. Buy things locally from CL, kijiji, thrift stores, estate sales, people in need of money for rent, etc. Clean the stuff up and sell for profit locally or online. Some practice in good ol' buy low sell high. The best way to learn business is to be in business. This will help with your social skills. Sales is an amazing skill.

If you want a few dollars from your pc, your could look into amazon mturk or clickworker. They allow you to do menial tasks for menial pay (below min wage by a lot).

You may also want to look into amazon KDP and writing some ebooks. Write your book in a normal text editor (they can even be article sized nowadays), upload and convert with their tools, "publish" and wala. They get 30%, you get 70%. It might only get you a few bucks a month per work, but hey, it's something.



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 No.4214[Reply]

I want to go blind. Everything's too overwhelming at this point. Is there a way to go blind without pain? One that doesn't involve stabbing.
If I don't go blind, or become crippled down the legs, I'll kill myself the new year. I hope there is a good way to do this.

 No.4215

I'm sorry, but we can't give you that kind of advice here. Anyone who tried to would be banned. Ask instead how to feel less overwhelmed. Maybe someone has better ideas than yours.



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 No.4174[Reply]

I've been a neet for 4 years, and only recently has a family emergency made me terrified of how i've managed money up to this point. I've always lived in the moment and might have fucked myself over.

So, /hikki/:
-How do you split your neetbucks between savings and day to day living?
-How much recreationally spending money do you allow yourself?
-Do you worry about how easily any day an accident could ruin you? Any other advice?
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 No.4179

>>4178
Same thing here. I save around 50-60% of everything that I make now. Most of what I spend now is on food, gas, and helping my folks. I might buy a new game once a year or so.
Wish I had figured this obvious shit out when I was younger, I was buying all that shit to escape with instead of dealing with the severe dysfunction in my life.

 No.4180

>-How do you split your neetbucks between savings and day to day living?
There are no neetbux. My dad pays for my groceries and I have no other expenses or bills.
>-How much recreationally spending money do you allow yourself?
I usually buy 1-2 $5 steam games a year.
>-Do you worry about how easily any day an accident could ruin you? Any other advice?
I've already had accidents. I just have to deal with them as best I can on my own. I've already had to deal with fainting and cracking my head open completely on my own.

 No.4181

>>4179
my life is basically over already.
I quit my job to go to college which I failed. Finding a job as a dropout is very hard because everyone suspects you of beeing a failure (which I in fact am). I asked myself often why I even continue to exist. Nothing gives me pleasure anymore and I have nothing to look forward to for the future. I thought of getting back into the labour force and save up money so I can retire early but then I will be in the same situation like today, just with more money. I will still have nothing to do and I will still be waiting for death.

Sadly I am too much of a coward to finnish myself off so I wonder how I will end in a few years when my savings run out.

 No.4182

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>How do you split your neetbucks between savings and day to day living?

No NEETbux, I live by a mix of parental support and my small home business. I do have some property to my name, which counts as savings I guess.

>How much recreationally spending money do you allow yourself?


Few hundreds a month, mostly because I can afford it.


>Do you worry about how easily any day an accident could ruin you? Any other advice?


Not particularly, because accidents happen and I think it's pointless living in fear / in function of them.

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>>4174
-cant save anything, living on welfare
-20€ a month
-yes, its frightening



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 No.3736[Reply]

So I've been a hikki NEET since May 2015 or so, but that's gonna change in about 3 weeks.


I know 2 years isn't that much compared to most of you guys, but I'm scared. My already mediocre social skills have probably taken a hit since then, so I don't know how will I react around people etc.

These 2 years have been fun in the end, even though I've hardly done anything relevant at all. But now's time to be a member of society again and I'm not sure I can handle it.

I'll be studying software engineering if anyone's interested.

Has anyone here gone through something similar?
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 No.4014

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>>4011
It's always good to have some backup-money that could get you through a month or two if the worst case scenario occured (like, say, you lose your job or your car breaks down, similiar to that)
But if you got enough money you can try out new things! Go travel or buy books about new topics you don't know much about, just to see if it interests you.

 No.4017

>>4014
I went on a trip to Seattle recently, I felt happy just wandering around the streets. First time I had felt that way in a long time

 No.4029

>>4006
OP here - once again.
Some days I just feel like quitting, I can't really stand dealing with people 5 days a week.

But I also know that I should get used to this since it will be the norm from now on. I'm not sure I miss my NEET days, but deep inside I know I don't want to go back. I do miss having all that free time to just to whatever and not worry about anything, though.

>>3740
For people on a similar situation, try what this poster said. I can't say I'm the most popular guy, but at least I'm not completely alone either.

It's very interesting to hear your stories, please keep them coming.

 No.4150

I've noticed in the first few months of having the job that my bad social skills had taken a hit in the 3 years I'd been NEETing. There were little bits of fairly toxic behavior that I didn't really notice until about a month ago and I decided that I would simply do better.

I'm slightly better socially now and even online I seem to have eliminated a lot of the stuff I was prone to (part of the reason why I decided to start isolating myself in the first place).

The biggest problem I've got now is figuring out what the fuck to go back to school for, and also to figure out how to cut back on some of the bad habbits that I had while a NEET so I can wake up earlier despite having to work until late at night.

 No.4151

>>4150
Do you have any idea of what you want to do, or not do?



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 No.3778[Reply]

Why are people proud of being neet? Why do they boast about being neet?

I've been neet for 7 years and have never been proud of it or thought it was worth telling others about.
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 No.4140

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>>4125
>I believe that politics are relevant here when they're used to justify neetdom. Neetdom is very much relevant to this board.
You would have a point if you were at least discussing politics related to neetdom, but you are just arguing why socialism is shit (and before you shoot me, I agree, it's shit) with other anon who hates the idea that we humans are humans and things never come free. If you are derailing a thread and going completely off topic, and specially with politics, you two would better go discuss this to other place where sperging about the same things again and again ad nauseam isn't a bother the rest of the site (just look at how many people are bitching about it already).
It's not that we don't care about politics, it's that this isn't the best place to discuss them because they're not even in the spirit of this place. Yes, /n/ was always shit, but we had more activity on the past and it didn't matter much. Now, when an autism battle hijacks the front page, it isn't as cool.

 No.4141

I know it sucks that threads are being filled with politics, but its mostly just one guy whos baiting because he got banned from a political board that was linked to from here. The best thing to do wold be to just not respond to him.

 No.4147

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I was never proud of it. Because if i would be someone who insisted on having something to be proud of, then I would not have become a NEET.
If i would be a person that highly values the opinion of other people over his own and therefore prefere to work and to be respektet in society instead of doing what i really want to do, i wouldn't have become a NEET in the first place.

 No.4148

>>4147
>getting up at half past 7
get on my level, my clock bells at 5 am

 No.4149

>>4147
You should be proud of how honest you are with yourself. By the way, what do you like to do anon?



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 No.619[Reply]

Hi, /hikki/. I've been lurking around on here since about 2013 and I really didn't have too much to ask about since I know my more internal problems suck, but they are also more of something that I can fix myself if I try. More to the point I guess, I decided to finally post because I have had my first paying job in three years. It's in retail, and I've been working there since November last year. At first I was relieved to get a paying job, but I learned soon that I just dislike the work and the environment. It's a department store, and I pretty much guard the fitting room area and I have to count the garments that people want to bring in. I'm not a very extroverted person, and I have a few diagnosed mental disorders. Sometimes people come over to try stuff on and they show clear disdain for what I have to do. I still do my job, but I've had many customers act incredibly finicky and rude about me having to check the items they have. Not only that, but some people will complain about things I won't let them do, like not bringing shopping carts into the fitting room even though there is a very noticeable sign that says people can't. I get along with my coworkers well at least, and most of my bosses are also nice. But I'm just tired of dealing with mostly middle aged women in yoga pants with makeup caked onto their faces, complaining about me doing what I'm supposed to do. I've had a breakdown already at work during the holiday time when some bitch refused to let me hand her each garment as I counted them. I used to work at a summer camp as a counselor, working with elementary to middle school aged kids. I got along with most of them and I used to let them watch me draw and I'd give them advice on school and growing up. The camp itself was kind of poorly run though, and when some of the kids got bullied, no one seemed to report it except me. There were also times when other staff were watching stuff on their phones and not interacting with the kids. Despite all that, I actually liked that job more when I look back on it, because I felt useful and that I was helping to contribute to society by inspiring kids to think about their futures and for them to grow up to be good human beings. Now I just feel that I made a mistake accepting my current job. I'm 19 and I still live with my parents. I've talked to my mother about finding another job at an afterschool program or another camp, and leaving my current job on the best terms that I can. She told me that I shouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.636

>>635
Salem? Really? How's it feel to live there, particularly on Halloweens? I almost went last Halloween but decided against it. I just live in one of the bumfuck small towns relatively near Boston.

 No.637

>>636
I live on the outskirts, close to Lynn. I have easy access to downtown via the buses, but around October I typically stay in my house and do stuff by myself. My house and yard are cool I guess, but the surrounding areas are fairly disgusting. I can also see the fucking Walmart sign from my place which doesn't help. The forest areas behind it are nice though. Most of the shops downtown except for the tourist traps are pretty sweet. The harbor is also a nice sight in warmer seasons. People make a big deal out of Halloween because obvious reasons here, but honestly come time for the Fourth it's basically the same but without the costumes. I'd say the best time to go would be the spring or summer.

 No.638

>>636
Oh yeah, and the local comic shop sells some animu stuff but unless you're a basic weeaboo or a hardcore mecha fan, it really could be better. I wish they had Touhou merch, that would be cool.

 No.643

>>638
Th-there's no local comic shop in my town. This place has absolutely nothing except for a decent pizza place.

 No.4112

>>619
dump your mom and do what you see best.

if you really want to work, then I suggest you look for a job (literally any kind of job) that would make you happy. there are online jobs, jobs that require no human contact, and jobs that are a living hell. choose one that you enjoy.



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 No.4048[Reply]

tl;dr Former NEET gets dream job and loses it. Debates bringing evidence of inappropriate behavior to the public. Mainly due to freaking out.

At one point in my life I was total NEET for 5+ years. Mental illness, multiple suicide attempts, and an illness in the family led me to moving back home. I existed as a ghost, only leaving the house to take my family member to the hospital for medical treatments. It wasn't fun at all, but I was able to justify the lack of motivation to do anything as 'doing the right thing' by taking care of said family member.

At around the 5 year mark, my family member passed away. It was a serious emotional trauma but I put off dealing with it by choosing that moment to try my hardest to get a job. I hustled despite my fears and anxieties and managed to get a job. It wasn't something I'd ever wanted to do but it gave me the chance to use work as a drug. It lasted a few years and gradually came around to me quitting because of the mental anguish involved. I did the NEET thing for a year and on a whim tried out a new job.

This job was fucking nuts. It was so demanding and chaotic that it completely consumed me. It was a career field I had never even considered doing in the past. Same with the last job, but as it turns out, I was actually really good at this new job. It wasn't the type of place where my being weird stood out. Everyone there was at least a little weird. In under a year I had been promoted to the highest position possible before becoming an executive. People worked under me and I did everything in my power to lookout for them. This led to me working 80+ hours a week. There was a little burning the candle at both ends but for once in my life I finally felt like I'd found my place in the world. I was exposed to things and places I never would have done firsthand if I was still in NEET mode. I regularly partied with celebrities, saw movies and TV shows months before anyone else, and even developed a close-knit group of friends (most of which were incredibly talented or powerful people).

Then it all came crashing down. Two years into my tenure there, past scandals came out to the public and the job suddenly disappeared. People were harassed, assaulted, or worse. In a matter of weeks I lost the family I had come to discover because of inappropriate actions that happened years before my time there. Unbeknownst to me in my time there I'd gathered quite a bit of information without directlPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.4105

>>4096
If you were the person I was replying to, you didn't answer my question about whether or not you have been to Hollywood. If you have only seen what you have seen on TV of it, you have no idea what you're refuting when I call it a crack house. Also, if you've never been to a crack house, you have no idea what you're refuting.

 No.4107

>>4105
Saying that I don't know what I am talking about or don't have the right to an opinion because I personally haven't been to Hollywood or a crack house does not constitute an argument. It doesn't matter if Hollywood was literally hell on Earth, it still doesn't have to be that way, so my point still stands. Op should not live in fear because the place he enjoys being in is infested with vermin. Come up with something better, or stfu.

 No.4108

>>4107

Let's break down your statement instead of taking it as a whole.

>Saying that I don't know what I am talking about because I've never been to Hollywood


Actually, it completely means that you don't know what you're talking about.

>or don't have the right to an opinion because I personally haven't been to Hollywood


Show me where I said this, please. It's an excellent strawman, but I can't recall saying this.

>or a crack house does not constitute an argument.


The crack house analogy was only to illustrate that Hollywood is not the clean, wholesome, loving, place so full of Dreams and Rainbows that anybody makes it out to be.
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 No.4109

>>4108
Just because I haven't physically been in Hollywood, that doesn't mean shit. I don't see how that is even relevant. You bringing it up as if it is relevant is you telling me that I don't have the right to an opinion, or at least I don't have the right to share it. If you're not saying that, then why try to frame things like I am automatically invalid because of some bullshit criteria that you made up? I'm not defending Hollywood, I am saying that the state of Hollywood should not affect op's decision making. You're telling op to be a coward. People shouldn't only simplemindedly pursuer their self-interest. If op has already decided to come out, don't try to strike doubt in their heart because you personally would choose to play it safe at the expense of your own ideals.

 No.4110

gay larp thread



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 No.4036[Reply]

How can I get autism bux in Australia?
I have been diagnosed with moderate functioning autism professionally. I have the documents that support this that are signed. Not sure what to do from here..
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 No.4040

>>4039
I agree with this wholeheartedly.

 No.4041

People over here just love your type.
https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.rs/
Why don't you introduce yourself? Just make an introduction thread and bask in the love.

 No.4042

>>4041
ED has been terrible for years.

 No.4043

>>4039
>safe space
Didn't know Ubuu was supposed to be a hugbox for libtards.

 No.4044

>>4043
Stop bringing politics into every single part of your life for once. I don't want to hear about that filth and it's completely irrelevant. Not every phrase ever said on the Internet is politics related believe it or not.



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 No.3641[Reply]

Feeling suicidal right now. I have what my doctor calls major clinical depression and I also have some drug addiction. I've been living the neet life this year because I dropped out of school to be on medication. I feel like I'm only going to college in the first place so people don't yell at me.
I don't think I've posted here in years. I'm a wreck right now because one of my friends who has used this site from time to time died of drug overdose recently.
None of my friends seem to like me anymore and everyone I've cared about seems to hate me now. I have no motivation. I feel dead inside. All I want is to not be alone but I can't seem to alleviate that.
I've just been sitting here listening to sad piano music crying for an hour or so. I don't know what to do.
I'm a giant waste of potential no one cares about and I'm only getting older from here.
I can't function without antidepressants anymore. Nonstop suicidal thoughts all day everyday. I got back on them this week because I was going crazy again. I live in constant fear that I'm just going to snap one day. When I'm off my meds I have impulses to kill myself and my brain tells me exactly how to do it. It bothers me that I could end my life in less than a minute at all times.
I really don't know what to do.
I'm probaby never going to kill myself I'm just stuck in a constant state of my mind telling me to.
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 No.3777

>>3776
I posted here sad and than in the very next post I made I made it clear I realized what had happened to me and that I was going to reflect on my behavior. My only regret is not being clear headed on what I was doing until now. If you feel like your volunteered time is wasted it seems like more your issue. I feel like if read properly there is a lot to learn about depression, the human psyche and existence, brought to the front of our minds for discussion.

After thinking things out I don't think people hate me and I don't really hate anyone else. I feel like we are suffering from a cosmic chain of karma where one person is poorly reacting to another person poorly reacting to something else over and over. I seek the truth a lot of the time in order to see things like this.
I don't hate people, I just get overwhelmed a lot. I'm pushing my thoughts in places like this imageboard post in order to uncover the truth about how I really feel and use what I learn from exploring to better myself. A long time ago is that if you don't put any attempt into nurturing your emotions it is going to slowly hurt you as a human being.
Anyway, I have a therapist and they are actively working with me to realize where depression has damaged my thinking patterns and self image. I feel embarrassed to be putting the worst possible version of myself in plain view to be quite frank. If you feel angered as an anonymous blip of energy by this thread I don't know what else to tell you.

 No.3786

>>3777
op here
man i'm a dick
I realize now my spirit has been very hostile to people lately. I just don't know how to work up the courage to turn that part of me off anymore. I'm really afraid of being taken advantage of again.

 No.4021

My mind is back on the subject of depression holes again. It's interesting to witness the effects of my deteriorated mental state when I make an intent of marking my place in the world somewhere such as a messageboard. Where was I at that moment? Why couldn't me in that moment feel the more overall lucid me? What thought mechanisms led me to think this way? Where did I pick these thought mechanisms Up? What do I give to others? That last question is one of the things that bothers me the most about my own depressive episodes. I have an extremely large presence due to the the nature of me being one of intellectual pursuit and awareness. That combined with being someone well studied at expressionism I feel like I can get people to understand the thought mechanisms I am using to think of the things I'm trying to express. Basically I am good at letting people know how I came to my conclusions(although this isn't always true due to the inherent imperfectness of nature, at least that's what I'm going to say for now anyway "don't quote me on anything")

 No.4022

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>>4021
I've got a question for you. You're one of the hikki-phantoms(that's what i'm gonna call people who only post in the hikki board) so you should be able to answer me. Why don't you guys ever post in any other threads, huh? Where were you on Halloween? Anyway, I feel like you're just drowning in your own pseudo-intellectualism. Instead of trying to change you, just brood and write long, overly verbose sentences to ask meaningless questions.
>It's interesting to witness the effects of my deteriorated mental state when I make an intent of marking my place in the world somewhere such as a messageboard.
Get a real hobby and mark the world with something more meaningful. At least write an actual book.
>Where was I at that moment?
Which moment?
>Why couldn't me in that moment feel the more overall lucid me?
Were you on drugs when you wrote this? Stop doing drugs. Depression does not force you to be a drug addict. It may be hard to quit, but depression or not, you should either at least try or be content with your shitty life and not complain about it, or try to improve.
>What thought mechanisms led me to think this way? Where did I pick these thought mechanisms Up?'
By thought mechanisms do you mean thought patterns, or the biological functions that cause thought? the latter can't be, "picked up", so i'm going to guess that you mean the former.
>What do I give to others? That last question is one of the things that bothers me the most about my own depressive episodes.
Care to elaborate on why this bothers you, or on anything at all in a clear way? You probably give them nothing. It is unbelievably arrogant of you to think that you're giving anybody anything by explaining your, "thought mechanisms", and philosophical ideas. This is especially true because of the surplus of philosophical writings that already exist and are better than anything you or I could come up with.
>I have an extremely large presence due to the the nature of me being one of intellectual pursuit and awareness.
No you don't. you have practically no impact on the world just like almost everybody else.
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 No.4023

>>4022
>I've got a question for you. You're one of the hikki-phantoms(that's what i'm gonna call people who only post in the hikki board) so you should be able to answer me. Why don't you guys ever post in any other threads, huh? Where were you on Halloween? Anyway, I feel like you're just drowning in your own pseudo-intellectualism. Instead of trying to change you, just brood and write long, overly verbose sentences to ask meaningless questions.
I have many other posts on this website then just on /hikki/. I guess I'm just posting because yolo?

>Get a real hobby and mark the world with something more meaningful. At least write an actual book.

I'm a writer, message boards are just one of many portals I can access too improve my skills.

>Which moment?

The moment when I posted on this messaeboard, although I guess I'm also trying to sum up the idea of a vague moment of artistic expression and the idea that we can analyze those moments in the future with new eyes.

>Were you on drugs when you wrote this? Stop doing drugs. Depression does not force you to be a drug addict. It may be hard to quit, but depression or not, you should either at least try or be content with your shitty life and not complain about it, or try to improve.


Yea I was on drugs when i wrote this, I took some stuff to undo the damage to my brain that antidepressents did. A vicious cycle I know but I do not plan on taking any more substances from this point

>By thought mechanisms do you mean thought patterns, or the biological functions that cause thought? the latter can't be, "picked up", so i'm going to guess that you mean the former.

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