/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

How old are you? And I don't really have a schedule, but I have a list of things I set for myself to do each day (which may or may not get done). I also have anxiety and some bipolarism. Writing music usually helps me, but sometimes I start and then think to myself "why bother?" Funnily enough, listening to blues music is also extremely cathartic for me. I was an edgy metalhead most of my life and then started listening to some Albert King and SRV and it was like an epiphany.

Hello Denied.

Normally I wake up at around 1-2pm. If my mother is in the house, I order her to make me a bowl of porridge. Failing that, I'll begrudgingly head down to the kitchen to prepare myself a pot. After my daily bowl of oats, milk and honey, I like to meander over to the back garden where I'll sit on the deck chair for several hours listening to music on my iphone. (Slip Knot, Korn, ABBA, Linkin Park etc.) I enjoy this.

When the sun isn't shining on my glorious Aberdonian seaside cottage, I'll sit by the fire on my chair and play runescape on my lap top. This, and idle browsing of chan websites contines until around 3-4am, where I will the retire to my spacious race car bed.

If I am lucky my mother will prepare for me a dish of haggis, neeps and tatties.

Another factor i neglected to mention was that this daily routin is interuppted by bi weekly excursions to the job centre. I dislike going to the job centre as it involves leaving the house/back garden.

Regards

John

>What I'm wondering are your days usually like? Do you have a schedule?
wake up at lunch time
go to bathroom
eat a chocolate bar and drink some ice tea
check out imageboards, news and crypto currency prices
fire up PS3 and play video games
go on pc and watch anime or movies
go to bed

>If you have mental issues what helps you cope? Just curious
I am socially retarded and clumsy and I only feel at peace when I distract myself and interact with my immediate world the least possible. I am also sensitive to stress

oh my lord OP i am so totally with you on this… i used to only be able to get the tip to my tonsil, but after lurking this board for some time i have been able to overcome my limitations and push it all the way to the esophagus. my bf is very pleased to say the least. just another thank u to all the hikki posters out there for sharing there knowldge :)

>sleeping in until 1pm and sitting on the computer all night
story of my life brudder. Whenever I have the freedom to do so, I do it. I am naturally predestined for this somehow.

>lazy
I am surprised how many people misinterpret our situations as simple laziness.

>How do you con your local dole centre into giving you cutter for fags and alcohol?
I don't understand your slang but I assume you want unemployment bucks. To get them you sign up at your local job center. Then you jump through their hoops and go to courses or trainings and send out applications. When you go to applications you can either be dedicated to find a job or just fuck everything up bombastically. At the beginning they will not bully you but as time goes on they will become more aggressive when it comes to you finding a job.

Your time there will usually be limited to a year or two and if you fail to find a job they will stop paying you and you are officially not unemployed anymore. You will then be unemployable. It can help you to get a diagnose for a medical condition or welfare but to rely on 3rd parties for income is nasty and you will have never ending paranoia of losing your bucks one day. If I were you, I would start a side business in any case. Like buying stuff from somewhere and reselling it on ebay. I do this with video games and trading cards and I earn some pocket money every month on it.

>>3670
That's just a mental-cop out. Is there a difference between a, "fake", emotion and a real one? Being a person whose death would benefit society isn't something to be proud of. Well, whatever gets you through your day I guess.

>>326

what do you mean burden? you are a burden by normie standards. But standards of the society is you are a burden the second you are not contributing anything to others. Its sick altruism that you shouldnt feel bad for ignoring.

w i z a rd

>>3713
No. You got it wrong. You're a burden if you're a burden. If you have enough money to pay for your own living expenses without relying on anybody else, normies wont think badly of you. Hell, they'll probably be jealous. If taxpayers have to take part of their paychecks and give it to you so you can keep buying vidya and consuming the planet's oxygen and limited resources, or your parents have to do it instead, obviously they'll think you're a burden. Even if you just live in the woods and scour for food, they wont they you're a leech unless they're a communist.

>>3714
>normies wont think badly of you. Hell, they'll probably be jealous
One thing doesn't contradict the other though.

>>3715
Huh. yeah. I guess I should have said that not only will they not think badly of you, they might also be jealous. People tend to dislike people who they're jealous of though. Well, they wont think of you as a, "burden", at least.

I'm surprised you can even get a job at that age. Here you will really have to struggle with the HR peeps if you want to get a job at 30 something.

Also I'd like to share how I think about things. I've fucked up many times and screwed up many life changing decisions such as college and shit. Right now I'm still a NEET, sure. But I'm still trying to claw my way out of this hole. In reality, not everyone is a winner. Even if I know I'd end up as a loser, I'd still try to win. Why? Simply put, I see something when people struggle hard to live. I see something when people go out in the streets, selling candies and cigs just so they could have something to eat that night. Or people scrounging on trash to find something of value to sell just so they won't starve. I don't know how to describe this feeling. But I urge you to atleast try and "see things in a different light", in regards to your current situation. Even if you end up as a loser in life and die with nothing on his name, I still believe you should strive your best until the very end. Good luck man.

I want to learn programming just like OP but (and please don't take it as making fun of OP because I'm not) as a 21 year old I feel that I will never be a good programmer because all good programming wizards began to code at 10 or something like that.

>>3631
as a working programmer who did not start at 10 and used to feel the same way this is almost entirely BS and you are fine

learn c OP

The problem with todays work market is that every single company, no matter how shitty it is, wants only the crème de la crème of the work force. They can afford their behaviour today because the work market today is a global one. You cannot find a genius engineer that will work for 15% less pay than average? No problem, put an add in estonia, you will have 50 applicants for this offer in no time.

However, times are not getting hard for us here. Very bad times are ahead of us and I doubt

In Japan, already 39% of the workforce is only part time employed. That means they work 7 hours a day, 6 days a week and earn 3 dollars per hour. Full time employment means you work 12 hours per day for a little more. People who lose their jobs end up homeless very fast because there is no unemployment money or welfare from the government. Young people who earn badly often end up in appartements with up to 8 or 9 other young people in similar situations.

In China, many factories are closing and the labourers who came from rural villages cannot find new work anymore because when you are past age 35 nobody wants you anymore. Many factories are beeing abandonned and rebuilt in cheaper places like Vietnam, Bangladesh and soon Burma. Many of those people are forced to leave the cities and go back to their ancestoral homelands in the villages. Then you have other Chinese who are young but still struggle to survive in cities even with jobs. I watched how one newspaper reporter lives in a bunker/basement and barely can afford the rent. Then one couple that lives in a bungalow with no running water and a shared toilet with 10 other "appartements". Then at the same time, there are ghost cities everywhere beeing built. I always believed that those ghost cities don't belong to anyone but this is wrong. Rich upper middle class people have bought those appartements in the ghost cities and now try to turn a profit on those investments by renting or selling it.

In America you have tent cities on the rise everywhere. Homeless people make up about 1% of the population already. In Silicon valley, rents have become so expensive that even workers from the prestigous tech companies cannot afford to rent and instead live in their cars. This is all happening while about 14% of real estate is not occupied by anyone. Bureau of statistics claims that jobs are in recovery mode but they do not tell you that most of the new jobs beeing created are waiter and bartendePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Having welfare got me a lot of benefits that made school practically free. Still gotta pay for books. It was useful because I am not very good at learning new skills without being shown. It makes me happy just to learn to be productive.

My back has been the biggest challenge in school but luckily my SSI also allows me to have medicaid and medicare. I finally made a resolution to see a doctor and went through a lot of hoops to make myself my own payee so I could get my proof of insurance back (since I lost it) and start a health care plan.

I'm hoping they can get my a chiropractor, maybe physical therapy, or at least some decent pain medecine.

>Just wondering if anybody has any advice for working yourself out of the NEET-hold and becoming a social, or "normal" person again.

Hi P,
I can tell you how I became a more social person: I talked to people and went to events. Any time I hear about an event in my community (any kind of event with the possibility for social interaction), go to the event and talk to the people there! You may have to learn new skills you're unfamiliar with, but that's part of the fun. Realize you are going to make mistakes, but be genuine and sincere. You may be surprised at the number of people in the world who will help you if you are a genuine person who asks for help.

You can also look around to see what events aren't being advertised. Go to your local community college or university and see what events are advertised on the bulletin boards. You can also do this at coffee shops. Additionally, you can walk around town, making a note of every store/building you see. You might be surprised how easy it is to overlook a business or place to socialize until you explicitly look for one.

I have never been a normal person for a single day in my life; I can't help you there.

Sometimes I wish I could have been victim of a disease or accident just to have en excuse for all my failings in life. The older you get, the harder it gets to shoulder all the shame that accumulates over time.

>>3369
>All of that spiritual fucking voodoo shit is just a mental cop-out and crutch for people who can't accept reality. How is some religious ideology going to make somebodies life happier other than brainwashing them into thinking that they are supposed to be content even if their life is shit. You're acting like a typical missionary, preying on people's emotional weakness.

Not at all. I'm speaking from experience. I'm merely suggesting what has worked for me, not pushing anything on anybody, simply informing them of this option. You are welcome to criticize mine and suggest your own, but nobody is going to benefit from what appears to be mere ignorant aggression.

There is no brainwashing. Some call Buddhism a philosophy rather than a religion. You just examine your own actions, views and ideas and see how they bring you stress, dissatisfaction or suffering, and rework them or drop them. Meditation gives you the clarity to find insight into even the smallest things causing you stress. It is similar to your view you mentioned of removing unhappiness to find pleasure. It's very much a path that is your own choice, the teachings are a guide to help you make more informed choices, and are taken on confidence when you see that they make sense or have benefited you, rather than blind faith. If you have any legitimate questions about Buddhism or my own practice, I would be happy to answer.

>>3369
>>3370
Oh yes, I should add that if your main exposure to buddhism has been schools such as Pure Land or Tibetan, then I can very easily see how you could see it as weird voodoo stuff. I don't fully understand those ones myself yet. Theravada on the other hand I have found to be much more down to earth and straightforward.

There is even secular Buddhism if you are really, really repelled by anything that can't be measured by science.

>>3369
I cannot erase my fear of the after life. I don't truly believe in it and I believe that I will cease to exist upon death, but I was raised by extremist parents that had strange beliefs. They ran the home like a church and believed they were the chosen prophets of the apocalypse. They pounded and preached fear tactics and control into my head every day as a child, sending me to sleep every night with screaming tapes of preaching about revelations and the horror and evil of the world which made me experience sleep paralysis every night and gave me an extreme fear of the dark and demons. I have schizophrenia and experience voices/hallucinations that come from "Hell", so I can never get over it. I've already tried committing suicide in that method except with more pills, didn't work. If I had access to a gun I'd have a hole in my head right now. My "Unhappiness" isn't a root that can be chopped, it was my cocoon and my seed.

>>3368
I used to meditate all the time, sometimes all day and night. I didn't use it to solve my problems though, I used it for escapism and built my own fantasy world that I lived in with imaginary friends and family. I had to stop after my parents found out, because they believe that meditating opens a window for demons to enter and possess the body and haunt the house. I was really into it at the time and was still able to find some form of happiness even if it wasn't real. When my parents caught me my dad dragged me by my hair out of bed and forced me face down onto the bathroom floor and tried giving me an exorcism, full with holy water, screaming and punches, treating me like a demon. They will kick me out of the house if they find out I'm doing that again. Their words, "I won't let you do that shit under my roof." When I tried explaining how it was harmless they claimed the computer is possessing me and brainwashing me with sin and shut off my internet for a month. I don't have a door to my room my dad broke it in half so I can't risk trying that again.

>>3374
Are you able to go for strolls or walk around anywhere away from family? Walking meditation is an option, if so. Nobody has to know. You simply focus on your footsteps while looking ahead, ie. left foot up, left foot down, right foot up, right foot down. You can break it up into more detailed movements, too.

I seem to be seeing quite a few people saying their family thinks meditation = demons, lately.

Be making 7 figures a year, married to a 10/10 girl with 3 children, getting pussy on the side especially while on business trips, really nice apartment in a nice city, actually be respected instead of shit on constantly for existing basically.

>>1687
>Art has this habit of attracting people who are broken or just a little off
God, yes. I love it.
Academia as well, in some circles.

>>1547
no kidding you guys if dating is annoying, don't do it. i don't.

i love working?? but i only do so part time. i get bored and restless when i am not.

im still neet losers! check me my mom got me this melon and cut it for me! haha

>>3637
Why stop here? You were being creative a while back in those last few threads.

It's funny how well this connects with another thread where some guy brags about how he improved his life and left neetdom. Thanks for taking the time in your busy schedule to visit here despite the possibility of, "slipping into old habits". Honestly, keep the job, loose the girl. What's the point of some nagging nuisance who probably asks you to buy things and only puts out when she feels like it like she's doing you some kind of inconvenient favor. Your job may take a lot of time, but domestic time is golden and shouldn't be wasted on something that you don't enjoy. Can you seriously see yourself marrying her and being tied down for the decades to come? Imagine if you want a divorce. Think of all the money that will be taken from you.

Sei, could you please ban this edgy, prepubescent faggot from 4chan who doesn't understand the purpose of the /ot/ board?

>Sei, could you please ban this edgy, prepubescent faggot from 4chan who doesn't understand the purpose of the /ot/ board?
This isn't the purpose of /ot/ either, my friend.

>>823
If I had a nickle for every jackass who has already said that. I will have a nice laugh when Trump wins and all of you are still here.

>>826
And I feel very, very sorry for all those unfortunate enough to not have an escape route from the inevitable martial law enforced plutocracy that would emerge from that government.

>>827
I don't know where you people get this from. It seems like 99% of people who hate Trump haven't listened to a word he has said.

"dude weed/college lmao"

contemporary politics is kuso tire anyway, WHO CARES

t. angsty suburb teen from the 90s

i dont know much about uk neets but what do you mean redundant?

what did you major?

>Any tips or suggestions for a UK NEET?

Can you go back to university? Fight hard to graduate from a university. University has helped me greatly; I've met several important mentors and learned a great deal about socialization, fitness, programming, and drawing, just to name a few. I was a NEET in the past and now I have professional programming prospects.

Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend. It took me about two years from when I started attending to become what I consider to be a serious student, and I took summer school. It make take you a shorter or longer time.

>Though I should warn you in advance I am telling you to graduate from a university, not to attend.
This

>>837
Did Economics before dropping out from LSE, too boring and workload was too much, I spent most of my time playing poker online.

I was in a job and they got rid of me because they were losing business so they paid me like £400 an said you're fired with compliments.

Last time I was NEET I lived with my parents and still had Unibux, now I've got barely £200 and the belt is tightening. Signed up for JSAbux tho.. $70 a week..

>>838 I would not mind to but I suppose you hit the nail on the head, I would probably attend and not graduate if I'm being frank. Besides that I couldn't fund the university and neither could my parents, who whilst employed are carrying loads of debt.

I've applied to some jobs… but no luck and when I look in the mirror I don't see much staring back..

>>840
You can definitely go to a university if you are willing to make enough sacrifices. You can eventually get scholarship money in places you wouldn't expect if you are willing to make enough sacrifices.

Another thing I would suggest is studying some skill in your spare time. Any skill will work, but some are much better than others (e.g. it will be easier to find people willing to pay you to program than people willing to pay you to play video games). Then, later, after a few years, (this is the important part) figure out how to sell that skill for money.

I currently run a business selling chess lessons to (the parents of) elementary schoolers. I never thought I would make money from playing chess, and I certainly didn't start playing chess with money in mind, but there it is.

You might be surprised to find out what skills you already have if you look inside yourself and what you can sell. I can't give you any specific formula because I was randomly lucky.

However, I can tell you that you don't need to study any one skill exclusively to sell it. My current work is an amalgamation of varying levels of skill at social networking, social skills, dress sense, willpower, physical fitness and attractiveness, punctuality, marketing, teaching, public speaking, awareness of my surroundings, computer skills (yes, really), design (yes, really), and chess ability.

Some ideas* for A+ skills that you can apply to pretty much anything:
Learning (yes, this is a skill. it is at the top of the list on purpose)
Willpower
Marketing
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