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 No.2920[Reply]

Hey anons, I'm conducting a survey on NEET/Hikki/Freeters, I was hoping some of you might be willing to try it. (pic unrelated, art by Tadanori Yokoo)

https://goo.gl/forms/mUUH3ddYwgyEg2lz2
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 No.2924

Ally's are just someone who supports NEETs/Hikkis

 No.2926

At least be so kind to update us on the project here if you're making advances or present your results.

 No.2961

Hey Anon, thanks for helping out, so far I'm doing research on the support groups and the need for support among isolated people. Early stages right now, but judging from interviews and the survey results online communities aren't ideal support networks but for those who only have online support they're incredibly important. Whatcha think?

 No.2990

>>2961
Well, yea, most online communities are pretty toxic for anyone, NEET or not. And I don't mean the silly buzzword you'd hear from rainbow haired college girls, but actually toxic. I mean, you don't have to improve yourself if you surround yourself with likeminded people who won't confront you and just filter those who do.

 No.3767

>>2990
Could this be quote of the year?



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 No.3734[Reply]

i feel bad for lurking in a thread like this, so i'll post this to feel better about myself

 No.3735

only quality toast in this bread

 No.3737

>>3735
Just wait til you see my butter spread

 No.3738

What a loaf of bullshit.

 No.3739

Have we started the leavening?

Yes! The bread rises!



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 No.3696[Reply]

Do you ever feel like you're passively observing your life, or that the physical world is no more real than the virtual one or the one in your head? Do you ever forget the meanings of the subjective or abstract, or stop understanding the purpose of normal human actions like saying words or putting food in themselves?
Is there anything specific that caused this for you? How long does it go on for, and how often does it happen? I remember a while back I nearly got hit by a car because it happened when I was in the middle of the road and I just stopped moving.
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 No.3705

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1) - If you feel so detached from life, how come you feel interested in doing anything minimally related to entertainment, namely browsing imageboards and even posting threads such as this? How come you feel interest in knowing what other people think about this/if they're experiencing something similar?
2) - Supposing I'm a person with extreme feelings of detachment, what makes you think I'd be willing to actually post, or even interact at all with others through threads such as this?

 No.3706

>>3705
Its not constant, it usually only happens for a few minutes at a time for me.

>>3703
?

 No.3708

>>3703
I feel really disassociated and I am starting a small business

 No.3709

>>3705
When you don't like or are worried about part of yourself, you will naturally want to be understood and reassured by people who can understand you. No matter how dissociated you may be, everybody craves validation. "Yes op, I feel like this ALL the time. Would you like to start sucking each other's cocks to feel better", is what every single person on the planet wants to be told.

 No.3733

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I have some experience with dissociation, depersonalization and derealization. I've always had brief moments of them in the past and apparently most people do. It is an alien state. You control your body like a puppeteer, everything looks like a documentary of your life, the world is distant. Nowadays I get those feelings during great exhaustion, at the station, after days of the same routine or in wide open places, even stronger when the area is artificial and empty.



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 No.2821[Reply]

As someone who has no "real" friends, my only source of companionship has been online friends. After 2 years or so I fear this group of my "close" friends have all grown tired of me, just as all of my friends in high-school would. I'm more on the quiet and shy side but I try my best to message my friends online everyday, but recently in the past few months they've seemed disinterested in me, not very receptive to me in group chats or in private messages. Eventually some, who I would message everyday have stopped messaging me and even ignoring me most of the time when I message them.

Maybe it's stupid but I feel so worthless as a person, as if I'm not even worth talking to because this happens every time, with every friend group I join. In school I was friendly with everyone, but then I'd realise the people I thought were my best friends were out partying and would make group chats while excluding me.

I got over this and felt alright cutting everyone off and being a NEET/hikki, but I thought I've actually been able to bond with these people online so it hurts especially when I know that this group of people are still messaging and calling each-other daily to play video games without me. There hasn't been any sort of fight between us or anything, so why is it always me that people get tired of? It's not like I'm spergy/edgy/mean to people or anything, so I just struggle to understand it.

Sorry for the rant, just upset and wanted to be able to write about it. Is there anyone else that has/is going through this?
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 No.3728

>disinterested in me
this was the case all my life in middle school. The other kids always called each other to do things but never invited me to any activity unless I organised it myself and called them. At some point I grew tired of this and just gave up. I am just too boring to get others to be interested in me and I do not have the interest anymore to actively seek friends anymore.
I just wanted to say that I can relate to what you must feel like. Never beeing desired like the "cool kids".

I also had online friends from my counter strike source days. It was kind of fun because we had insider jokes and I joined one of their clubs/clans. We were just regulars at the same server. Then I became less active since 2011 and now in my steam friends list you can see tons of people who had their last access to steam over a year ago. They either grew up or died. There are 3 guys left who are regularly online. Nowadays nobody bothers to even send me friend requests anymore but I also have to say that I rarely play anymore.

>this happens every time, with every friend group I join. In school I was friendly with everyone, but then I'd realise the people I thought were my best friends were out partying and would make group chats while excluding me.

I know this feeling and you are not alone. Was with me as well. I realized that I never had real friends. Just people I hung out with. Even the guys who were into my interests (anime, card games) had their other social circles where I was no part of.

>so why is it always me that people get tired of?

I don't know why you are in this situation but I can tell you the reason for mine. It is because I am a boring person. Nobody wants to be around a rain cloud so it is only natural that people would not seek my compagnionship by themselves.

>>2823
this would support my theory about beeing boring
Also, one of the guys from our former clique has contacted me as of lately. I believe he wants or needs something of me and I am soon to find out what it is. He was like this even 10 years ago.

 No.3729

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>>2870
>>2877
I know it's been months since you made this post but any tip or tag to talk with other social retards? And I mean true social retards. I don't watch anime nor play vidya anymore, and my knowledge regarding other topics is pleb tier. Been getting interested in history lately but I'd rather listen than talk. Im not the kind of person to argue endlessly over politics either.

There has to be a group for people with rotten social skills that isn't some meme forum like the social anxiety one.

 No.3730

>>3729
>Le your posting in one
Sorry anon, just getting that tremendously unhelpful answer out of the way before someone says it unironically.

 No.3731

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First step to living an utterly miserable life is giving this much care to how others perceive you. Focus on yourself for a while, everything should be done for your own sake. Companions are nice but you shouldn't have to modify your interests or personality to earb brownie points. You'll end up feeling artificial. It was all a fake facade because you're insecure of who you truly are.

 No.3732

>>3731
>earb
I meant earn



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 No.2799[Reply]

I guess I've been a "Hikikomori" since about about December, after having a constant struggle with my anxiety and depression which led to me dropping out of school, I'm currently looking for a job but for the past months have pretty much been a NEET. What I'm wondering are your days usually like? Do you have a schedule? If you have mental issues what helps you cope? Just curious

 No.2801

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How old are you? And I don't really have a schedule, but I have a list of things I set for myself to do each day (which may or may not get done). I also have anxiety and some bipolarism. Writing music usually helps me, but sometimes I start and then think to myself "why bother?" Funnily enough, listening to blues music is also extremely cathartic for me. I was an edgy metalhead most of my life and then started listening to some Albert King and SRV and it was like an epiphany.

 No.3723

Hello Denied.

Normally I wake up at around 1-2pm. If my mother is in the house, I order her to make me a bowl of porridge. Failing that, I'll begrudgingly head down to the kitchen to prepare myself a pot. After my daily bowl of oats, milk and honey, I like to meander over to the back garden where I'll sit on the deck chair for several hours listening to music on my iphone. (Slip Knot, Korn, ABBA, Linkin Park etc.) I enjoy this.

When the sun isn't shining on my glorious Aberdonian seaside cottage, I'll sit by the fire on my chair and play runescape on my lap top. This, and idle browsing of chan websites contines until around 3-4am, where I will the retire to my spacious race car bed.

If I am lucky my mother will prepare for me a dish of haggis, neeps and tatties.

Another factor i neglected to mention was that this daily routin is interuppted by bi weekly excursions to the job centre. I dislike going to the job centre as it involves leaving the house/back garden.

Regards

John

 No.3727

>What I'm wondering are your days usually like? Do you have a schedule?
wake up at lunch time
go to bathroom
eat a chocolate bar and drink some ice tea
check out imageboards, news and crypto currency prices
fire up PS3 and play video games
go on pc and watch anime or movies
go to bed

>If you have mental issues what helps you cope? Just curious

I am socially retarded and clumsy and I only feel at peace when I distract myself and interact with my immediate world the least possible. I am also sensitive to stress



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 No.3721[Reply]

Hi guys, long time neet here, first time poster. I have to say, /hikki/ is a fine board. It's here that I have finally found troubled souls such as myself. In reading these posts, I have realised that I am not alone in my struggle.

It's refreshing to learn that there are other young men and women who enjoy sleeping in until 1pm and sitting on the computer all night. Up until now I thought I was the only person in the world who was so inclined to do this. My therapist kept saying I was being lazy, but I knew that fat sow was wrong.

To kick start a discussion for this thread, I'd like to pose a question: How do you con your local dole centre into giving you cutter for fags and alcohol? My mother is quite keen on that sort of thing, and I would like to secure a steady supply so that I can carry on with my lifestyle. I was thinking of pretending that I had autism or something like that. Seems to be all the rage these days. My mother was watching a show on the netflix related to it.

Anyway please let me know if you have any tactics when dodging the career advisors' interregation techniques.

Regards

John

 No.3722

oh my lord OP i am so totally with you on this… i used to only be able to get the tip to my tonsil, but after lurking this board for some time i have been able to overcome my limitations and push it all the way to the esophagus. my bf is very pleased to say the least. just another thank u to all the hikki posters out there for sharing there knowldge :)

 No.3726

>sleeping in until 1pm and sitting on the computer all night
story of my life brudder. Whenever I have the freedom to do so, I do it. I am naturally predestined for this somehow.

>lazy

I am surprised how many people misinterpret our situations as simple laziness.

>How do you con your local dole centre into giving you cutter for fags and alcohol?

I don't understand your slang but I assume you want unemployment bucks. To get them you sign up at your local job center. Then you jump through their hoops and go to courses or trainings and send out applications. When you go to applications you can either be dedicated to find a job or just fuck everything up bombastically. At the beginning they will not bully you but as time goes on they will become more aggressive when it comes to you finding a job.

Your time there will usually be limited to a year or two and if you fail to find a job they will stop paying you and you are officially not unemployed anymore. You will then be unemployable. It can help you to get a diagnose for a medical condition or welfare but to rely on 3rd parties for income is nasty and you will have never ending paranoia of losing your bucks one day. If I were you, I would start a side business in any case. Like buying stuff from somewhere and reselling it on ebay. I do this with video games and trading cards and I earn some pocket money every month on it.



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 No.326[Reply]

Since the beginning of my NEET status, there's one thing that's always bothered me: the percieved lack of a reason to exist.

I just feel guilty, being such a burden. It wouldn't matter how much those that care of me would be willing to accept it. I really haven't changed since last year, and I'm starting to feel really bad about it.

How do you work through it, fellow NEETs? What do you tell yourself is the reason that you should continue breathing the next day?

I'm not considering suicide, this is simply the most relatable image of Tomoko I found, but I'm definitely not feeling great.
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 No.3677

>>3670
That's just a mental-cop out. Is there a difference between a, "fake", emotion and a real one? Being a person whose death would benefit society isn't something to be proud of. Well, whatever gets you through your day I guess.

 No.3713

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>>326

what do you mean burden? you are a burden by normie standards. But standards of the society is you are a burden the second you are not contributing anything to others. Its sick altruism that you shouldnt feel bad for ignoring.

w i z a rd

 No.3714

>>3713
No. You got it wrong. You're a burden if you're a burden. If you have enough money to pay for your own living expenses without relying on anybody else, normies wont think badly of you. Hell, they'll probably be jealous. If taxpayers have to take part of their paychecks and give it to you so you can keep buying vidya and consuming the planet's oxygen and limited resources, or your parents have to do it instead, obviously they'll think you're a burden. Even if you just live in the woods and scour for food, they wont they you're a leech unless they're a communist.

 No.3715

>>3714
>normies wont think badly of you. Hell, they'll probably be jealous
One thing doesn't contradict the other though.

 No.3716

>>3715
Huh. yeah. I guess I should have said that not only will they not think badly of you, they might also be jealous. People tend to dislike people who they're jealous of though. Well, they wont think of you as a, "burden", at least.



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 No.3622[Reply]

Yoo

Im a neet too, a neet for many many years

I dont like to whine, not fond of self piety as its painfull and dangerous

Im prety good at avoiding reality with games, animes and random interests I cant keep for longer than a week

Life sucks but I cant fuck my family over with suicide. They arent the best but I cant do that.

Im 36 and despite being intelligent and talented with words , I have no skills, no degrees and no experience.

Nowadays ive been more and more unable to block reality as the rope is slowly tightened around my neck. Despair is starting to settle in and im looking for a way out of this shit.

Good thing is my parents might last for a few years and I can still train myself and try to get a job even when im so old.
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 No.3629

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I'm surprised you can even get a job at that age. Here you will really have to struggle with the HR peeps if you want to get a job at 30 something.

Also I'd like to share how I think about things. I've fucked up many times and screwed up many life changing decisions such as college and shit. Right now I'm still a NEET, sure. But I'm still trying to claw my way out of this hole. In reality, not everyone is a winner. Even if I know I'd end up as a loser, I'd still try to win. Why? Simply put, I see something when people struggle hard to live. I see something when people go out in the streets, selling candies and cigs just so they could have something to eat that night. Or people scrounging on trash to find something of value to sell just so they won't starve. I don't know how to describe this feeling. But I urge you to atleast try and "see things in a different light", in regards to your current situation. Even if you end up as a loser in life and die with nothing on his name, I still believe you should strive your best until the very end. Good luck man.

 No.3631

I want to learn programming just like OP but (and please don't take it as making fun of OP because I'm not) as a 21 year old I feel that I will never be a good programmer because all good programming wizards began to code at 10 or something like that.

 No.3632

>>3631
as a working programmer who did not start at 10 and used to feel the same way this is almost entirely BS and you are fine

 No.3633

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learn c OP

 No.3674

The problem with todays work market is that every single company, no matter how shitty it is, wants only the crème de la crème of the work force. They can afford their behaviour today because the work market today is a global one. You cannot find a genius engineer that will work for 15% less pay than average? No problem, put an add in estonia, you will have 50 applicants for this offer in no time.

However, times are not getting hard for us here. Very bad times are ahead of us and I doubt

In Japan, already 39% of the workforce is only part time employed. That means they work 7 hours a day, 6 days a week and earn 3 dollars per hour. Full time employment means you work 12 hours per day for a little more. People who lose their jobs end up homeless very fast because there is no unemployment money or welfare from the government. Young people who earn badly often end up in appartements with up to 8 or 9 other young people in similar situations.

In China, many factories are closing and the labourers who came from rural villages cannot find new work anymore because when you are past age 35 nobody wants you anymore. Many factories are beeing abandonned and rebuilt in cheaper places like Vietnam, Bangladesh and soon Burma. Many of those people are forced to leave the cities and go back to their ancestoral homelands in the villages. Then you have other Chinese who are young but still struggle to survive in cities even with jobs. I watched how one newspaper reporter lives in a bunker/basement and barely can afford the rent. Then one couple that lives in a bungalow with no running water and a shared toilet with 10 other "appartements". Then at the same time, there are ghost cities everywhere beeing built. I always believed that those ghost cities don't belong to anyone but this is wrong. Rich upper middle class people have bought those appartements in the ghost cities and now try to turn a profit on those investments by renting or selling it.

In America you have tent cities on the rise everywhere. Homeless people make up about 1% of the population already. In Silicon valley, rents have become so expensive that even workers from the prestigous tech companies cannot afford to rent and instead live in their cars. This is all happening while about 14% of real estate is not occupied by anyone. Bureau of statistics claims that jobs are in recovery mode but they do not tell you that most of the new jobs beeing created are waiter and bartendePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.942[Reply]

Hi there. I've been a struggling NEET for years now.

In the past 6-8 years I have had several entry level jobs lasting between 2-6 months on average.

For 4 years I have been a complete NEET, (aside from a few single courses), because I was hit by a car.

I live with my parents since then, comfortably, but with no hope of meeting new people, finding (and desperately wanting to have) a girlfriend, or feeling a part of any social community that could help me branch out.

I do deal with physical pain (mostly in my back), which can be limiting.

My *MAIN* problem is that I can't think of enough pro's to work myself out of this situation. I'm on Welfare, so I make enough money to feed myself, and I can entertain myself and even learn skills at home comfortably, but I am very alone.

Just wondering if anybody has any advice for working yourself out of the NEET-hold and becoming a social, or "normal" person again.

 No.944

Having welfare got me a lot of benefits that made school practically free. Still gotta pay for books. It was useful because I am not very good at learning new skills without being shown. It makes me happy just to learn to be productive.

My back has been the biggest challenge in school but luckily my SSI also allows me to have medicaid and medicare. I finally made a resolution to see a doctor and went through a lot of hoops to make myself my own payee so I could get my proof of insurance back (since I lost it) and start a health care plan.

I'm hoping they can get my a chiropractor, maybe physical therapy, or at least some decent pain medecine.

 No.945

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>Just wondering if anybody has any advice for working yourself out of the NEET-hold and becoming a social, or "normal" person again.

Hi P,
I can tell you how I became a more social person: I talked to people and went to events. Any time I hear about an event in my community (any kind of event with the possibility for social interaction), go to the event and talk to the people there! You may have to learn new skills you're unfamiliar with, but that's part of the fun. Realize you are going to make mistakes, but be genuine and sincere. You may be surprised at the number of people in the world who will help you if you are a genuine person who asks for help.

You can also look around to see what events aren't being advertised. Go to your local community college or university and see what events are advertised on the bulletin boards. You can also do this at coffee shops. Additionally, you can walk around town, making a note of every store/building you see. You might be surprised how easy it is to overlook a business or place to socialize until you explicitly look for one.

I have never been a normal person for a single day in my life; I can't help you there.

 No.3673

Sometimes I wish I could have been victim of a disease or accident just to have en excuse for all my failings in life. The older you get, the harder it gets to shoulder all the shame that accumulates over time.



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 No.19[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

hi /n/, im curious about the NEETdom and wondering if you could answer some questions?

how long have you been a NEET?
was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
what do you do all day?
what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
how often do you get outside, if at all?
do you live independently or with parents?
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 No.3644

>>3640
You still don't have a proper college education and you still don't make enough money to support yourself. I don't get why you're acting like i'm insulting you. It's a fact that despite being an adult, you are not financially independent. How many paintings would it take to pay for a private college? You'll be eighty by the time you get to that number, and by that point no company will hire you. Take a bank loan.

 No.3658

16 years NEET, im 38

rocky mtn spotted fever as a infant (13mo) has caused bad motion control in my legs and constant nerve pain. injury , death of wife

i garden, try to walk often (took years to start enjoying the out of doors) play games, read, try to be creative including making boardgames and d&d (im a dm). i break down old electronics and harvest metals as well as pc or tablet repair. electronics once was a hobby is now a major source of my income. i have a good friend that owns a board game store and a chain of game stores so i can get work at his warehouses under the table, super flexible hours and the fact he is a friend is the only reason i can do it.

i have hardly any social activity. i had to drop most of my friends since they are on drugs. my d&d group is a ggood social/creative outlet and i still have a few close friends . i dont date ( since my son lost his mother i am a large part of his personal identity. so i stay single until he is older and its healthy for him.) also i dont experience the full range of human emotion anymore. so i dont experience boredom. my 11 year old son with me at home all day. so we play alot of multiplayer games together.

i force myself top go out and walk my dog and do simple gardening , paint the house. constantly cleaning the house .. if i dont move around or exercise at all my anxiety peaks from stress induced by nerve pain.

i own my own home, i also get death benefits from my wifes death. Thank god i live in a capitalistic country and can make money instead of living off others. that provides me with self value and esteem. im white and male so i dont get hardly the same income benefits as a minority with social programs. at first i didnt make any money and was a drain on my countryman and family. over the last 8 years i have really worked hard to change that and my depression has lifted to normal levels!

 No.3661

good luck paying back those student loans, bank shill

 No.3662

>how long have you been a NEET?
since 2010
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
grad highschool in 2010
had to stop working because of allergies from nose-hairs bugging me. my hair brows very fast and thick.
>what do you do all day?
sleep for 9 - 14hours
look at porn for an hour/bathroom stuff every morning
leave aimp/discord/steam running while reading chans/doing things from backlog
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
chans/discord/steam
family members
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
every 2weeks for food trips
>do you live independently or with parents?
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 No.3671

>>3614
> how can you survive independently while NEET?

I get money from the government.



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