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 No.5462[Reply]

for a couple months last year, i had someone akin to my own misaki. i didn't know them irl, only talked to them online, but i was going out relatively frequently with their help, they calmed me down and helped me out in many different ways throughout my daily life, not just when i was outside, and i thought maybe it was the road to stopping being a hikikomori. they have some similar issues though, and in march of last year they started isolating themselves from everyone, online and irl (i talk to someone who is friends with them irl). so, for months now, i've been pondering, do i move on or continue waiting? i've been waiting for a long time now, but the extent they went too for me was something i've never had before, and doubt i'll ever have again. changing their sleep schedule to mine, legitimately always there when i needed them, kept me calm and relaxed, understood me and my emotional needs, went to great lengths to cater to my emotional needs, and did a great job at catering to those needs too, did so many things with me and for me, was very loyal, etc.
so, as i said earlier in the post, do i continue waiting or move on? i'm extremely dependent on other people, but that's a whole different thing to explain in itself. due to this extreme dependency, i really cannot see myself making any progress in my life without them, and i've only gotten worse since they've left..

 No.5463

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>>5462
Move on. You have my sympathy and i'm sorry to say this, but that person was as dependent on others as you, possible more so. They were using you as a means of feeling useful and good, kind of like Misaka, sure, but Misaka was somewhat put together despite her issues. Having a sociopathic therapist treating a sociopathic patient is a recipe for disaster and this applies to pretty much every condition. Maybe she wasn't aware of it herself, but that was the underlying motivation behind her actions. Maybe her own life took a turn for the worse or maybe she just lost interest.

You probably wont meet a person who has the same coping mechanism as her: seemingly altruistically helping out social recluses. Being more independent is the only viable solution and I wish you luck with that.

 No.5465

>>5463
i'm not sure how i can become independent though, that's not something i've ever really experienced in my life. do you have any advice on how to be more independent?

 No.5466

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>>5465
You're going to have to set your own goals. I don't know what you want out of life or where you plan on being in the long run. The two things I think everyone should do though is live healthily and be financially independent, which means finding a source of income. You can try finding any job you can get, or you can try to develop marketable skills like translating ability or anything that requires higher education.

You'll need to be able to get yourself to do work and advance towards your goals without the help of other people too. This means self-discipline and holding yourself accountable, which takes training to develop. Eat well, sleep enough, exercise, cut out the things in your life that distract you.

To be independent, you'll have to think for yourself too. This might seem counterintuitive, but you should read more and learn about the world and how other people think. This will give you a basis for your own opinions. Don't just passively agree with people. I don't know what your life circumstances are, but I think anybody can develop these skills with enough persistence. To be completely honest, I don't know how much faith I have in your ability to succeed considering how these are things that even I struggle with to an extent., but it's not my job to believe in you, it's yours.

 No.5509

>>5462
I've cut myself off from most people in my life, and when I get a way to support myself fully, I'll probably cut out the rest.
But part of me wants outside people to bust down these walls and rescue me from myself. Though even if they tried, I think i'd just run away again, or drive them away from me somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKI_MY0Bkw
Maybe your friend is as hopeless or me, or maybe they aren't.



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 No.190[Reply]

post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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 No.5090

>>4719
Welp I overdid it this summer because of my excitement at getting better so now i'm back to how I was 6 months ago. At least I know I can improve now though, just have to pace myself with is what the doctor has been trying to drill into me this whole time. I get very excited doing anything new so it's fucking hard though.

 No.5488

>>5090
improving again, weightlifting and going outside sometimes, and i'm going to go on another trip to visit my grandparents in 2 weeks that should be chill

living with my parents again sucks though get me OUT

 No.5498

woah, other people are like this?! I'm always ill it sucks i do everything to have a good immune system (except exercise) but i'm just always falling apart, rotting inside and imploding. I feel better knowing i'm not alone

 No.5499

>>5498
Yeah feels like you're cursed or something, maybe that's a childish way to put it but that's how it is. People calling you lazy is inevitable and awful though.

 No.5500

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Rest is important



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 No.5245[Reply]

being alone for so long has stunted my ability to talk so much that i can barely construct full sentences in my head, let alone hold a conversation with anyone
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 No.5454

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>>5447
>Normal people suffer when they near someone who suffer.
No, they only superficially care in order to keep up the facade. I doubt they genuinely care about a stranger whom they don't already have an affinity to.

 No.5455

>>5454
Wrong, false. While people can and do bullshit, a lot of the times, they'll actually feel bad in the moment but wont take meaningful action or still give a shit five minutes later.

 No.5456

>>5447
You have a point but I wouldn't say that "suffer" is the right word. Most of the time I do get overwhelmed around people who are in a bad situation, but the decision to care or not is something else. I tend to keep distance especially if I can't help.

 No.5457

>>5453
I respect hikkies as i am hikki too. And i assume problem desribed here is not a simple one like "my girl dont apriciate my football skill"

Profesional help. Do you have emough money for that?

>>5454
The way you look on it depends.

It is a question like "my wife is simulating in the bed what i should feel about it?". Normal person dont give a fuck is it simulation or not. Feel-ish bu normally-egoistic person would thank "wife" because she put an effort to please that person.
But only a depressive one would feels tricked and cheated.

>>5456
Depression is a internal suffering. Watch Sapolsky.

 No.5479

>>5455
> they give a shit five minutes later
They are also aware of this, hence they avoid people, who make them feel bad. Who wouldn't?



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 No.4545[Reply]

Anybody else here who used to frequent hikkichan?
It's closed now and I feel like I lost my home.
This is the only other place where I can maybe belong..
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 No.5329

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>>5326
that's what hikkis think. when hikkis look down the abyss thinking they've experienced real misery the children in africa look back up at them from below.
leveraging loser dick size isn't a really healthy thing to do
>>5287 is right, a job is a superficial distinction, I could be flipping burgers any time now but I would still be in the same cultural boiling pot
on the other hand, pick an average person working at a fab and give them the pink slip. boom, they're fired. they're a NEET now because they're currently unemployed and they're not looking (let's just say they're getting things straight for the month) for a job
does that mean they're not a normalfag anymmore? even though they very likely still remain a normal ordinary responsible person and hold interests compatible with (the already loose) definition of normalfags

some people say ubuu is filled with normalfags, but you have to realize most people here are in their late 20s - mid 30s now, people got a job and moved on. we just don't glorify (not glorifying =/= hating) feels or NEETdom like some other boards
i miss /n/

 No.5360

Interestingly enough, the creator of the site has been found leaving a comment on this retrospective on the website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8DplmUzAA&t=1s

 No.5414

>>5326
do not think sadness is a competition, very bad idea

 No.5415

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>>5414
That's what I've been thinking… Furthermore, your 'level of sadness' don't really depend on how high your level of life is, how well you're being treated by other people, your social status etc. I mean miserable hikikkomori nobody cares about can be 100 times happier than rich daughter of some politician or something. I think it all depends on your personal view of life and other extremely subjective things.

With that said, how come person who works be less miserable than hikki? Can this person have social anxiety and depression too? Yes, of course he can, and he's forced to act like a productive member of society everyday. Isn't that sad? That's why sadness isn't a competition.

Everyone's sad in their own way and nobody can have a mental capacity to truly understand what other person feel and why is it that way. I think we should treat each other's sadness equally.

 No.5474

I lurked hikkichan for a long time and posted a couple times. I found this site looking for a replacement. I lurked wizchan too but couldn't post because I've had a girlfriend before.

>>4570 sums it up pretty well


Looking at this thread it seems like this board isn't really for hikki / neet users, just for discussion about hikki's from the outside in, so it's not really comparable to hikkichan.

the problem with the 8chan board is that hikki had a separate board for whiners / depression pity parties, and separate boards for interesting topics to discuss. putting them all on the same board is a recipe for disaster because the conversations get choked out by people just there for attention / trolling / screen shotting for reddit / whining / 'advice' / etc.

I may start a new discord-but-with-forced-anonymous chat for hermits / reclusive people instead since it seems there is still no where quite right to go and it's probably time to ditch most of what chan culture has become.



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 No.5353[Reply]

(I hope it's the right board.)

I think I've been followed/stalked for almost a year now. Possibly had one email hacked too, but I deleted immediately. I closed all my social media.

The problem is, I have absolutely no proof. No alerts, viruses or anything suspicious.

I know it's most likely a "problem" I invented myself but I have a few small reasons to believe it.

Did this happen to anyone else? Do you have any advice?
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 No.5431

what was that chatbro link

 No.5432

>>5431
www.niggers.com/1986

 No.5459

>>5353
Don't worry about your stalker, anon. Kick his ass!

 No.5460

>>5459
That's downright insulting. That's like saying "don't be sad" to a person with depression. You think you're cheering him up this way but that's quite the opposite. Judging by OP's story, he has no way to determine even who his stalker is so what do you mean by saying "Kick his ass!"?

 No.5461

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>>5459
>>5460
They've dealt with it already, so either way it doesn't matter~



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 No.5407[Reply]

Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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 No.5422

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>>5421
Only schizos and manic depressives get my attention, and it's not because i'm worried e about them.

 No.5423

>>5420
This post scares me slightly, since I'm sure your description of him is how I'm perceived and because there are a couple of people who occasionally engage with me just like you described. I interpreted it as pity before, now I'm worried that I've got some kind of "mysteriousness" to them.

 No.5424

>>5423
In the past, I came across that way to some people. For most, it's more likely to be pity. Anon is just too used to stories about quiet people actually being something extraordinary.

 No.5428

>>5423
Yeah. I just have to say: I'm so sorry.

 No.5429

>>5428
Don't be, I'm sure >>5424 is right. I was just being dumb.



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 No.5128[Reply]

So awhile back I found Infinite Outlaw's video being linked in an interesting links thread on 8chan /hikki/. Since then I've noticed he makes a lot of videos related to the topic and recently has been linking to threads of this board and sometimes using our posts in videos. His most recent video is just a compilation of posts in a thread on here over some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy4CdqcHwQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeCSEeBlLhw
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 No.5401

>>5398
>He also did a video outright saying he's not trans on his second channel???


He never said he wasn't trans he said that he is fine being a guy and no longer identifies as a girl but the feelings aren't completely gone and that there could be a possibility of him relapsing so yes he is a tranny faggot.

 No.5402

>>5401
Well he hasn't relapsed and he seems to have actively trying to change himself. Unlike most of these trans SJWS you dont see them actually trying to change who they are. These are just feelings he had. You realize he was raped right? These feelings dont come out of no where. And it's been months since he made that video. It seems pretty set in stone to me. Either way feelings and thoughts are just that. It's how you act that matters dude. And as far as being trans goes, he doesn't seem to be pushy or act weird about it at all. If you watch his new live stream he actually shits on trans people for needing gender in the first place. That he thinks gender in it of itself is a weak thing to cling to. He seems pretty anti trans to me.

 No.5403

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Oh Tatsuhiro Satou.

 No.5405

well he locked himself out his channel now.

 No.5406

>>5128
>>5405


>well he locked himself out his channel now.


Is he dead?



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 No.5085[Reply]

I'm going back to school in a few weeks after having been shut in my room for probably 5 years. I dropped out of high school a while back, and even before then my parents took me out of elementary school in favor of homeschooling, since then I've had trouble and barely kept up. I've taken online classes for most of it, but I'm being encouraged to go out and actually attend classes, most because I do want more opportunities out of the house, and my computer is busted.

I'll be taking a high school equivalency thing first before actual college, but the thing is, I have no idea what to expect. I haven't interacted with anyone my own age in real life since I started being homeschooled, so I have no social skills. Additionally, I lack confidence in my own skills and have always struggled. I slacked off a lot and now I'm so behind. I've been trying to study but I don't have experience with a lot of this. Nobody is really helping me, and I can't help but think that, since this is just high school, college will be harder and leave me more drained and depressed than ever before.

No one has even told me what to expect. It's like they just keep dancing around the issue whenever I ask how bad it will be, which isn't helping my anxiety. And I keep stressing out over how much this'll cut into my time and what to do with my life, and hours and weeks and homework and getting high grades. I don't want to just waste any of my time here, but I guess I have to do this if I want to be a functioning member of society and get money. But I just wish someone would help me.

Is it really as bad as I'm thinking? If So, how do I hold out these next few years wasting my life on things I won't ever need to really know without breaking down and killing myself?
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 No.5373

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>>5370
>computer science
Oof, have fun getting interviewed by Rahul. That field's been getting more fucked since y2k, anon.
source: my seasoned cousin who's in between jobs and does consultation calls to get by

 No.5375

>>5373
Anecdotal evidence. I know plenty of people who got good careers as software developers. Don't try to discourage people. I think this board should be about encouraging each other to do well, not telling people that they're going to fail.

 No.5380

>>5375
Anecdotal evidence has value when it comes from an insider. My cousin knows plenty of people in the same situation. Maybe software developers have it better for now than in banks and other type of firms that need an IT department. Companies are certainly looking into outsourcing development though, even if that's not widely implemented right now. I'm not sure how much upward mobility that has anyway. Unrealistic optimism isn't that useful either. I'll ask my cousin about developers.

 No.5394

>>5380
Yeah, he said software developers are also having a harder time, but the biggest issue is getting hired into a senior position. Indians work for less and companies are eager to abuse the work visa system. I don't know what your friends are doing or what their background is, but these problems certainly exist and are getting worse.

 No.5404

>>5370
>>5373
Only the low-tier companies outsource their work to India via HCL/infosys/etc. Most of this work is braindead enterprise CRUD stuff anyway. Startups and reputed firms that need quality devs usually shy away from outsourcing, though that doesn't mean they still don't abuse the visa system. Also most of the people in the field nowadays are asians, and the bar keeps getting higher as more as more people enter the field.

Computer Science is still a fun and practical degree though, and at least for the next ~5 years or so it won't be *impossible* to get a job. I'd suggest not specializing in machine learning though since that bubble is probably going to pop soon.



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 No.5143[Reply]

How does one prevent themselves from becoming hikikomori? Did anyone narrowly avoid it or have any advice for those that they would have liked to give their past selves?


just going to give the tl;dr because nobody would read what I typed
>wasted my time on a degree I don't want a job in
>learned nothing
>anxiety
>depression
>no confidence
>no skills
>co-workers hate me
>ugly and self-conscious about it
>living at home is really appealing right now
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 No.5387

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>>5385

I wasn't even trying to sage the thread to begin with also to respond to your point that's why i said from a more western perspective social and societal pressure exist everywhere anon therefore due to society's social and societal pressures anyone could become a hikikomori regardless of what country they live in but you are correct that in most western countries parents wouldn't enable this behavior and that's why i said while hikikomori do exist outside Japan they are extremely rare and of course i am not proud of it it is not something to be proud of however i just accept the fact that it is who i am. As far as people appropriating the term well wouldn't you get mad too if you were dealing with a psychological problem and people were running around on the internet calling themselves that psychological problem because they think it is a cool new buzzword or an alternative lifestyle which it isn't so i have every right to be offended it literally is no different than someone running around yelling hey everybody i am depressed isn't that cool? hell yeah LOLOL it is disrespectful to those who actually suffer with the condition i have Japanese hikikomori friends and they hate people like you guys because they see it as a form of mocking and disrespect also yes a hikikomori can leave their room to use the bathroom and some do leave the house for necessities or emergencies at night.

 No.5388

>>5387
>hikikomori friends

 No.5389

>>5387
Aside from the rare person who calls himself a "semi-hikki", I don't really see people going around here calling themselves a hikkimori. The board's called /hikki/, but that's pretty much it. Where did you hear this was a site dedicated to that very specific group of people? Where does it claim that? You're making up an issue because you can't handle how this site deals with these types of issues and that the people giving advice don't themselves have said issues, which makes no sense to me. That's what you're really offended by and you said as much in your first post. You're driving this thread off-topic for the sake of bitching about your own personal problems with ubuu and insulting the users. If you don't like it here, fuck off back to your wizchan circlejerk.

 No.5390

>>5389

Almost every single english speaking Neet and hiki community is full os normalfags and people pretending anon.

 No.5391

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Jesus, I thought we already got over this truneet / semihikki ordeal. Truth is, most users here don't really relish in feeling like a loser, if you've inspected the catalog. There are feel threads but most look over to the positive pasture instead of whining about wageslaves. Some are content with what they have and would like to remain on the status quo, and that's fine, we don't give them shit. If you want to discuss bodypillows, onaholes or you just want to vent, that's fine, you can do it here. If you want to incessantly whine in a srs_bsns manner on how jews/females/trannies/niggers/normies are Satan, then maybe Ubuu is not your cup of tea.

Thread is locked as its derailed too far, feel free to start a new thread with the same topic. Anyone that tries to derail future threads under the pretense of NEET/normalfag crusades will be dealt with more harshly from now on.



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 No.5315[Reply]

I'm back to the NEET life after 2 whole years of hard work to replenish my unemployment rights, man it's hard to be a decent NEET these days, this was so hard on me that I am now on anti-depressants…

What do you guys do to earn money and stay at home?
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 No.5327

German?

 No.5330

>>5315
anti-depressants don't work. it's placebo.

 No.5332

>>5327

Nah, I'm French, but yeah I'm in Europe ^^

>>5330

I wouldn't be so sure, it kinda works for me, doesn't solve everything but helps me cope and deal with it more easily which is already a relief.

 No.5334

>>5332
which kind are you on if you dont mind?

 No.5336

>>5334

It's called Fluoxetine, but well it's basically Prozac, I get a pill of 20mg each day since 2 months…



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