/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

>>5294
You should draw propaganda for an arbitrary group of extremists. They soon will be glad to find you just working on some dick sketches.
>like to check in on me often
Wtf! Are you on suicide watch?

>>5295
What at night? Unless you're actually a ten year-old that is creepy as fuck and you should ask them to stop. Hell, even if you are ten they should at least knock first.
>>5297
Wtf! Are you on suicide watch?

They think it's normal to check in on your adult kid 24/7. I told them countless times to stop, but nothing has changed. I can't argue with them either because "it's their house and as long as I live here, I'll have to obey their rules".

>>5298
You should focus on moving out first. Or at least pay rent and argue that gives you the right to privacy. Does your door even have a lock?

>>5298

If your door doesn't have a lock, install one. The peace of mind of having a lock on your door, just for privacy's sake, is incredible.

>>5774
>have lock
>parents just bang their body into the door like retards
(im not the anon you were talking to)
Most of the time it's nothing urgent, they just want to harass me

I don't understand why you need IRL friends when you have the internet…

Understanding your relationship with your friends is about as fun as sliding you're cock into a zebra

I dunno man. I'm in a similar situation. Conversations online aren't visceral enough for me. My own company is the same old. I have seen that the best things in my life ultimately happen from being in the presence of others.

I have intestinal issues, whenever I eat I have to lie down because of the pain. Great thing to have in addition to depression.

I'm starting to have issues with high iron, high cholesterol, high sugar, chest pains, breathing problems, fatigue, and insomnia. It doesn't help that I have plenty of mental problems. I've tried to go to a therapist before but I always freak out and can't handle it. I wouldn't go out of the house even to a doctor's appointment until recently which is literally the only place I go when I leave the house. It's been this way for about two years now. I've been trying to eat better in terms of my diet. I cut soda, have been eating more fruits as well as vegetables, and decreased eating red meat. I've been having a problem drinking more coffee now though in place of not drinking soda though. But I've had insomnia problems LONG before I even touched a cup of coffee. Ironically sometimes after drinking a cup of coffee and having a long piss session afterwards it'll put me right to sleep. Funny how coffee puts me to sleep sometimes and melatonin keeps me up for days.

>>5820
I relapsed health wise and my dad is here minding me but I'm still doing pretty well

The 1 bedroom flat is fucking terrible but it'll do until a few months when I get a new place

Making lots of music now

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZhAMBSw4tefCr8w0QuEZ0bi-uNcDVie_/view?usp=drivesdk

>>6040
Have a new place now holed up for Corona
Also a gf which is nice although she's very energy sapping makes it hard to pace myself

Recovering from some sort of foot infection thing.
Been on anti-biotics for like 9 days.

>>6142
Here's someone who's never experienced ego death.

>>6143

here's another lol

>>6147
and another one

Ego death can be euphoric, but it's not the same as euphoria. It's the complete loss of the sense of self caused by total suppression of short-term and long-term memory access. During ego death you observe the world around you without any concept of your past or identity. It's a very bizarre feeling. The euphoria comes from the total abandonment of your usual mental and emotional burdens during the experience, and it can be very inspiring in retrospect.

Maybe your soul expired…

>>6151
you can do that kind of thing through practicing meditation , no need for drugs

In OP's story he's clearly just chasing the purple dragon

As a former NEET that put himself into a situation where I have to work now, a very long fucked up story I might make a thread about it one day. Getting something done least for me requires stuff biting at my ass and a sense of severe consequences if I don't do something.

The situation I am in at this very moment requires me to work but I put myself into this situation originally as a trade off to thinking I'd be getting something I want out of it which I no longer will so now I have to work even though I really don't want to and have to suffer through what I put myself into but I'm getting more done in my life than I ever have in 3 years of being a NEET. Getting out of NEETdom isn't sunshine and roses but once your out it's almost impossible to get back into least with my case. In reality I don't care for a paycheck or other aspects of what people call a "normal" life expect one thing which makes me think I was born in the wrong time but I do feel a little bit better that I've come such a long way in one year even for things I do not care for I feel I have more power over my life and other people's lives than I previously thought I had.

Even though I have will and motivation now because of all the bad stuff happening to me, I still get depressed and have the strong urge to end it all. I've never been in so much stress in my life but who knows it might be worth it eventually though my addictions are crushing me along the way and it seems the only thing that gives me hope is my addictions, I realize how fucked up that is but oh well.

tl:dr In short the best way to get something done is to act like or actually have a situation where there will be horrible consequences if you don't do it which for you there might be in the future that you over looked. Fear, envy, wrath and strife have driven people to do many things my advice might come of as irresponsible but in my own life I found that to be the only real thing to make me get anything done well that and my addictions.

>>421
>three years
casual

>>416
It's four years later but seriously the point of being a neet is that you simply didn't fit into society. If you stop being a neet you never should have been in the first place. It's called being disabled.

>>416
I know what you mean. For a long time I've been in a state where I allowed others to make decisions for me because I wouldn't take action. But this one time things got really bad and I almost lost my life. I'm not gonna go into the details, but basically by putting my trust in others I nearly died in a really stupid way. It wasn't just their fault but mine as well for not being proactive.

>unemployment elitism
effin right

>>6098
u aint wrong anon, u aint wrong

I'm very sorry that you're in that situation, OP.

Personally I would never go for the rope unless I thought that without doing so I might end up in a situation where I wouldn't even have the option - for example, I might consciously consider the rope IF I was facing some sort of awful disease that might render me unable to make the decision and execute it at some point. I don't think there's any shame in choosing to exit, and I don't think you have anything to worry about as I believe in a resurrection of the dead, so you'll just wake up afterwards, but it's a really horrible decision to even consider, and so long as you're alive I guess there is always at least some hope that things will improve, and at least some hope to find some sort of happiness or meaning.

I think, so long as you're not suggesting damaging yourself first in order to be able to get it, that you should at least try for the SSI, though you'd have to consider the possible consequences of doing so for yourself (sorry I don't know much about the US system). I know from my own experience on NEETbux that it can be very hard to escape that situation once you've been in in long enough, and my situation has been very bad at points - but then again, I'm not sure the alternative was any better, if I'd continued working I'm sure that right now I'd just have wasted vastly more time serving other people, rather than at least having some time to myself as a NEET (even if in the end, my family stole vast amounts of it during that that time).

I don't think there's any shame in doing the sugardaddy thing so long as you don't actually have sex. If you can find someone willing to pay you to see photos or videos or something, it may not be ideal - but considering the amount of humiliation and subjugation involved in 'normal' wageslavery, I'm not sure that it's any worse. I don't see it as exploitation in either direction, but it's absolutely disgusting that people might have to reduce themselves to that rather than get support from 'society'. People in general should be ashamed for allowing such a situation to exist.

Maybe if you find a way to subsist for now, you'll eventually at least inherit your parents house if they own it? I see it as your parents having a moral obligation to support you, no matter how old, considering they brought you into the world and are responsible for your upbringing, so it's pretty terrible of them to want to toss you out. Is there Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

updating, still alive but not well.

however this virus turned out to be a blessing in disguise for me in a variety of ways

1. my folks actually care about me and wont kick me out in the middle of a pandemic
2. everyone around me now is living my lifestyle so im understood a bit better by some
3. im not able to get a job during all of this

but, shit still aint great or even good in the slightest.

unemployment benefits in my state is taking forever to come through, i havent gotten a stimulus check either, and im still waiting to hear back about disability / SSI shit so while i am "safe" to stay and be more of myself, im still not in any better of a financial situation.

its stressing me out and while i dont feel as bad as i did at the start of this, it's still hurting and terrible in my eyes and if anything i am believing the second this pandemic ends, i might just have to give it all up and just do it already.

for as much as i talk about this 'an hero', ill be honest and say i still fear it and still am pushed to keep going by some natural instinct to stay alive. say what u will about being over-dramatic and being being a fucking special snowflake pussy, but thats just the point, i am that shit and right now im still considering adding myself to the suicide rate of people like me.
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Lots of people get SSI $700 a month
Some people get SSDI $1,000 month
If a parent is dead you could get Survivor Benefits $1,400

>admin please do not lock this thread
damn, look at this guy knowing the admins intended culture

Institutions already alienate us, why should we care for their rigid definitions? I think there is a difference between NEET and Hiki but the Hikis themselves should define this. Considering the complexity and variation of humans at large I'd imagine there are gradients of hikikomori. I don't know where that line is between hiki and NEET but a ridged adherence to strict definitions only creates walled gardens, at least with things like this. Discussing what a hiki is isn't the same as something more concrete like physics.

>>6136
>I think there is a difference between NEET and Hiki

The only difference is one can be social while not contributing to society the other is isolated completely or nearly completely here is some more interesting info i found on some Japanese websites regarding hikikomori.

From Japanese Wikipedia.

引きこもり（引き籠もり[1]、ひきこもり、英語表記 hikikomori[2]）とは、仕事や学校に行けず家に籠り、家族以外とほとんど交流がない人の状況を指す。現時点では、日本の厚生労働省はこうした状態が6か月以上続いた場合を定義としている

Acute Social Withdrawal (Withdrawal [1], Withdrawal English notation Hikikomori [2]) refers to the situation where people cannot go to work or school, stay at home, and have little interaction with their family. At present, the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare defines these conditions as having lasted for more than six months.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/引きこもり


引きこもりの定義と全国の引きこもりに関するデータ
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NEET The acronym for (Not In Education Employment Or Training) The acronym NEET refers to those who have given up and refuse to attend school work or vocational training

Freeter フリーター

Japan's word to describe those who work part-time jobs with low pay and have a hard time earning a living.

Hikikomori 引きこもり

Hikikomori is a Japanese term when translated into English it means pulling inward being confined (Acute social withdrawal) it is Japan's word to describe those who have isolated themselves in their parents house refuse to attend school or work and stay in their bedrooms for very long periods at a time due to social and cultural reasons related to Japanese society (Generally 6 months)

Unemployed Person

A unemployed person is someone who is temporarily unemployed but still seeking out employment looking for a job and is willing to work

Self-Employed Person
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just try to catch up*

>>6127
Plenty of people either do those things because they want to, or because they think they can find additional social acceptance for having done them (which is really just another way of saying they want to do them). If wanting to do them doesn't apply to you, then don't. But understand what frequently befalls those who choose not to do those things.

I was a loser a few months ago. I'm still a loser, but now I can play the piano at a very bad grade 2, draw very poorly, and just about understand Japanese spoken by a small child.
Still, I'd recommend it, especially if you're a NEET like I am, since you'll be doing something with your time. I started doing these because I wanted to.
My regret is not starting earlier, since I'd be way more proficient than I am now, and probably enjoying it more since I won't have the frustrations that come with being inept at things.

I'm looking for a place like mentioned too. All I have is a small twitter circle of people but something like a discord does sound kind of tempting.

Penpal sites

Try smaller discords, facebook groups, forums, etc. It's also good to look for communities centered around something that interests you, so you already know what topics to break the ice with when starting a conversation.

These "plz direct me to obscure net circles" threads are always awful, but are there seriously people recommending facebook groups? Listen anonymous; every single hangout on the internet revolves around hobbies. You can browse forums dedicated to knitting cute sweaters, to finding torrent groups willing to share the most FUBR fetish porn vids. Think to yourself what activity on the internet do you partake in the most. If you like saving pictures of anime girls you found on pixiv, *insert imageboard community* exists for that. Despite what some people might tell you, forums and IRC haven't been taken over by reddit or anything of the sort.
>anyone have tips for making friends while being a hikki
For the record, people that "want to be friends on the internet" will want to mic chat with you or pressure you into doing things for them. They want friends that have a skill set. If you don't have any real skills like drawing, music or programming, for example, then they'll probably ghost you or kick you from whatever group you share.

>>6125
Well personally I like browsing the sanctionedsuicide forums but I don't know if it counts as a hobby or not.

yeah.
i've been following the same group of writers for three years across tumblrs, across twitters, across chatzy, but they're growing steadily more secretive with their writing, (e.g. you have to submit a few pieces of your own to gain access to their discord channels or whatever). it's somewhat stressful but i guess i've gotta move on/keep what i have on me and get rolling

>>5811
I never really imagined creating a real friendship back when I had internet friends but I did daydream a lot about meeting them in public and having quick conversation, I actually rehearsed some lines and had imaginary conversations with myself as practice in case if that happened, even though I knew none lived anywhere near me.

That's called love.

>>5407
>Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.
When I was younger, I used to hero-worship internet friends and obsessively check for new things they'd post to forums. It would always be one person at a time. Thankfully, I don't think I ever made it obvious to them, and I stopped doing it.

>>5407
Very relatable, especially when I was younger. There have been figures on the internet with many niche hobbies that I've shared. When I was obsessed with these types of people, I eventually found alt accounts which were very easy to find. Of course those alts eventually lead to me finding their telegram handles, their steam, which directed to me finding their friends, which then lead to me finding even more about them. It was very embarrassing each time when I had to cut ties with all of these seemingly likeminded individuals on the net, because they thought I was some guy trying to "fuck up their life" by knowing all of this shit that was readily available online. There was only one special case where that didnt happen and I still talk to him today; but even then, when I archived and reup'd stuff he used to post online, he also got creeped out, but doesnt seem to care now