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 No.8376[View All]

Trans Mega Thread!

So, let's try something here.

Frequently a trans-related topic comes up in a thread here in /hikki/, and the thread will quickly get derailed by malicious comments or by the diversion in topic just taking over. There is clearly a lot of interest in discussing trans topics, as well as a lot of unwelcome interest in shutting them down. But they do tend to take over threads either way. So, while we figure out how to handle this from a moderation standpoint, I am going to make a trans discussion mega thread here to contain such conversations. This might end up being permanent. If you find that a thread makes you want to discuss a trans-related topic, make a post here instead.

Rules 6 and 7 are strictly enforced in this thread, and violations will result in longer bans. However, uncomfortable questions are also allowed within reason.

Also if a trans topic starts to derail a thread from now on we may delete those posts.

Also Sei is trans. So I might make some posts in here as well.

Update 11/04/2024: When the conversation in the trans thread veers into whether transness is even a thing that exists, that will be considered an attempt at derailment. This thread isn't for you. It is specifically a containment thread for people who want to talk about transness from the starting assumption that the topic itself and the kind of identity it discusses is valid. Please keep that in mind.
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 No.8643

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>>8642
deleted post in question

 No.8644

>>8642
>>8643
When an ideology can only exist when information (no matter how relevant or euphemistic is it may be) is being removed, then it isn't stable whatsoever. Oh well, I've said my piece. I'll be back in a month to watch more shenanigans - good luck, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8LTUmHWP0

 No.8645

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>>8644
Forgot to attach the image, it's Hime-chan!

 No.8648

>>8636
i come back three months later and we're already doing jq shit. wowzers

 No.8651

>>8630
old thing le soul new thing le soulless

 No.8652

>>8644
Ah, like how hitler burned medical literature relating to transsexual medicine? that omission seems to me to deem the right wing pretty unstable. Of course, you would hold that hitler was left wing. So there's only so much i can do in the face of your wall of cliches

 No.8653

>>8631
The bedrock of all hate movements is insecurity. If you can convince the insecure that their insecurity is caused by an outgroup, be it jews, trannies, gays, etc. you have yourself traction. But if you address the cause of the insecurity, you prove that it wasn't the outgroup that was the problem, and the movement fizzles out. So if the insecurity is caused by need for a shrink or a counselor or whatever, you would need to remove all outs to fulfilling that need so that you can keep the anger coming.

 No.8654

>>8653
also I have a schizo theory that another reason why they want to deny access to pinkpills is because it makes trannies easier to radicalise. bro you dont have gender dysphoria its your masculinity being undermined by the immigrants bro trust

Also you all need to stop arguing with these dumb cunts. lurkoid transphobes don't have any real arguments and they're either too retarded or too radicalised to realise that. Their hatred of trans doesn't stem from a place of reason or logic that can be argued against, it's just "these people are le different, i do not le like". if this board was around 20 years ago they would be complaining about the gays. If we stop giving these fags traction we can better use the board for actual discussion.

 No.8655

>>8630
>Believe me, I tried to be open-minded before. It never worked, and was a horrible experience at all times.

Holy shit bro are you a fucking Dalek? Are you a powerpuff girls villain? Jesus christ

 No.8656

>>8652
>like how hitler burned medical literature relating to transsexual medicine?
I filtered Google search results about this that were published before 2015 (aka before the woke boom). Surprise surprise, not a single thing was said about this bullshit. The only instance of trannies I could find is the mention of sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld (nice surname) and his cronies trying to advocate for alphabet rights. Not to mention (((Hirschfeld))) himself stated that the gays can only be tolerated and pitied, but never be truly accepted into society. Just like disabled people (his words). The Nahtzees demolished his establishment like everything else at the time.
>>8654
>it's just "these people are le different, i do not le like"
I'm also le different from le others in our le society. Some of us will always keep away from convincing ourselves into thinking we're something that we could never be, and in turn, won't walk in public wearing skirts and putting on a forced high-pitched voice to "pass off". Sanity is declining, slowly but very surely.
>>8655
EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

 No.8657

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>>8656
Lol already echoposting. doesn't take that long does it. I promise you you're not quite as shocking and edgy as you think you are.

>Sanity is declining, slowly but very surely.


And you're one of the special few that's able to see it. Praying you're just an autismo schizoid who got a little lost in the sauce and not an actual /pol/ user, because that way maybe there'll be peace for you someday. Just step outside. I'm not telling you to go hug the next tranny you meet, or even be accepting.All you have to do is talk to some people, make friends with some normies; it might be nice to have some interaction that isn't being stuck inside your own online echo chamber or epically owning the libs or whatever. You seem to know a little bit about doctor who, maybe watch some of that, get into that community. just chill anon. If you hate trans so much maybe it would do you some good to stop letting them live rent free in your head.

 No.8658

>>8657
>I promise you you're not quite as shocking and edgy as you think you are
Being edgy wasn't my goal. Almost everyone who posted on this thread for the sake of being edgy was v& by janny trannies. I'm simply pissed off at how much this site that I used to love can keep getting worse.
>Praying you're just an autismo schizoid who got a little lost in the sauce and not an actual /pol/ user
Welcome to /hikki/, a board chock full of spergs and schizos. Hating a group of mentally ill people who seek validation 24/7 doesn't mean I'm lost in the sauce. People have tried to speak against the owner's bullshit decisions about the site for god knows how long, and none have worked. /q/ might've been put down for good, but this thread is no better of an alternative; it's the worst double down one could possibly pull off. A pinned thread that welcomes you to this board, simply wonderful…
>make friends with some normies; it might be nice to have some interaction that isn't being stuck inside your own online echo chamber
mfw touching grass
Are you a tourist? Or has this place been infested with so many zoomers now, that this is the only advice they can give to a shut-in? Some of us are too fucked to randomly go outside and interact, with a bonus of having no real friends. Ending up a reject more times than I can count is sure as fuck not giving me more hope over time, especially not at this age.
Not that echo chambers are the type of community to let someone speak up, either. They're soulless circlejerks that forbid people of showing a single ounce of identity.
>If you hate trans so much maybe it would do you some good to stop letting them live rent free in your head
I just miss the old Uboachan. Those who keep yapping about how I should leave don't even realize how much it's been ruined even before they joined. Zoomers always defend something they can't even understand

 No.8659

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>>8658
Something something the owner not relating to the original crowd anymore because their life took a different turn and they are the ones paying the bills and having their reputation on the line.

>>8657
You just asked a shut-in to touch grass on a board about the shut-in lifestyle. You surely do stick out like a sore thumb. You know what we do to rude "enlightened" normalfags here, right?

 No.8664

>>8658

>a group of mentally ill people who seek validation 24/7


Is this bait? Surely you realise how hypocritical you sound, what with your constant woe-is-me swooning.

>Some of us are too fucked to randomly go outside and interact, with a bonus of having no real friends. Ending up a reject more times than I can count is sure as fuck not giving me more hope over time, especially not at this age.


Aren't you special. Perhaps having interactions outside of crying about trans on the internet, online or not, could break your feedback loop. I'm not telling you to "touch grass", I'm telling you to stop fetishizing your own loneliness. Who knows, it worked for me. Anyway sorry you're so triggered by the thread. I'm wishing you the best anon, no matter how melodramatic you are, you do seem genuinely quite miserable, and I hope you find a way out soon. Sei doesn't seem to be changing their mind anytime soon, so perhaps you should do something other than stewing.

>>8659
>You know what we do to rude "enlightened" normalfags here, right?

Calling me pretentious then defending the statement

>I just miss the old Uboachan. Those who keep yapping about how I should leave don't even realize how much it's been ruined even before they joined. Zoomers always defend something they can't even understand


is so fucking funny.

Anyway, peace to you both.

 No.8665

This is getting out of hand. Convo here about what to actually do with this thread.

>>>/sugg/4116

That said, whether we keep this thread here or move it to /ot/ or make a board or something:
When the conversation in the trans thread veers into whether transness is even a thing that exists, that will be considered an attempt at derailment. This thread isn't for you. It is specifically a containment thread for people who want to talk about transness from the starting assumption that the topic itself and the kind of identity it discusses is valid. Please keep that in mind.

Let's please get back on topic while we figure out how to best manage it. Mods are paying closer attention again. Apologies for the lapse.

 No.8671

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 No.8672

>>8671
good imagan

 No.8677

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>be me

>used to be a tranny as a youngshit


>gave up because i realised i would never pass without e


>start looking at femboy furry shit porn


>mfw continuous and intesive wet dreams about being a cute pants shitting tgirl/femboy


I'm so cooked. It's over. Is there any hope for me?

 No.8678

>>8677
Somehow i feel like this is meant to be the most horrific thing i have read but it seems normal. But to answer your question i fucking hope so.

 No.8679

>>8678
welp i browsed some 4tran and apparently it's pretty common. if i ever become a passoid maybe i can find someone to do it with me who knows. i get off so bad to shitting myself ffs i want to die

 No.8680

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I am not sure if I am really trans but god my body hair is giving me so much distress, avoiding looking at mirrors as much as possible has helped me a bit but when I look at my arms/legs hair it drives me mad. I really hope laser works well for me or else I might go insane.

 No.8681

>>8677
Ur not a youngshit if you weren't on hrt ever that's just called normal lmao

 No.8682

>>8680
You can also femboytroon, hrt femboys are cute :3

Nair cream might also work

I fucking hate my body hair but i go turboautist trying to get all of it with a razor so ill just wait for hrt tbh

 No.8683

does anyone have any shaving tips for mtf? i have no fucking idea what i'm doing to be honest.

 No.8684

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>>8376
I'm honestly considering just neeting out. I would still want to go for midnight walks/bikerides but maybe that would make me a traitor to the based kino hikki movement. Life is meaningless. My only friends are the faggots my parents use my autismbux to pay off so they can tolerate me. I suck at learning japanese. I'm never going to pass. I want to die. All the days blur together in a never-ending slog of shitty video games and youtube home page refreshes. I can't read anything because I'm too retarded. I feel so ugly all the time. As a little zoomy I was at least too stupid to realise what puberty would do; 8 years later and now I'm so fucking ugly. I want to die. My skin look like shit; there are cold sores all over my chin and my forehead is covered in pimples


I hope somebody rapes me to death in ashitty back alley in my shitty fucking australian surburban hellscape

 No.8686

>>8678
WAHT DO I DO????

 No.8689

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um. i don't know. i'm going through the same problem. except i'd only pass if i took T. and lost even more weight till i'm skeletical. idk what to do. i tried to brush it off and life as a girl but i fucking hate this life. Help

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>>8684
>I would still want to go for midnight walks/bikerides but maybe that would make me a traitor to the based kino hikki movement.
Think about it this way: If living to an ideal "based, hikki lifestyle" is making you miserable, is it really worth pursuing? Do you really care about what imagined hikki posters think of you going on hikes or walking outside? Sometimes you got brush that idealized hikki shit aside, your own personal happiness is much more important. Live for you and what makes you happy, not what imagined anons may think you'll never actually meet. Don't be selfish though, give adequate care to the real people around you who care, but ultimately live for yourself because yourself is going to be the only one who sticks with you for life.

I also think you are catastrophizing a bit too much with the rest of your post and need to learn some postive self-affirmations. I'm sure you aren't as ugly as you think. And if you are? Who cares, what matters to most people, besides shallow cis women, is personality and how much you mesh with theirs. People tend to overrate looks in discussion but in reality, most people are looking for someone who understands them

 No.8707

what do trannies read? (non fiction only please)

 No.8708

>>8707
The Secret by Rhonda Byrne

 No.8709

I really don't understand how people ever thought that yume nikki would stay a male NEET interest forever. Especially for people who play Yume 2kki religiously, like that's not something that the vast majority of men would ever feel interested in if given the same circumstances, in fact most of them would probably think you're a faggot for playing these games.

There's no action, there's no real overarching story, you just wander around looking at things to experience them. Additionally, some of the worlds in these games are very feminine and tend to become notable due to their cute aesthetics. When 2kki's soundtrack started to get popular on Tiktok (shit) is it any wonder why it was mostly women who liked it and used it in edits and whatnot? And is it really so strange when you go to ynoproject and see the chat is mostly made up of tumblr girls? They are not stealing the thing you like, these games always had elements that were attractive to women and LGBTQ+. No shit some fans eventually trooned out because when you leave your imageboard delusions behind, listening to Lotus Waters ost for the 500th time isn't the most gender conforming thing in the world.

If you really wanted the trannies and the faggots to go away then you would have said something about LCDDEM being gay when it released, complained about the worlds Mosenite added to 2kki, gatekept everything… instead those things just made you happy

 No.8711

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>>8709
We live in society.

 No.8715

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>>8709
Anon, are you being retarded on purpose? This is just reinforcing gender stereotypes with a fresh coat of paint on top.

 No.8718

Let's try to keep it somewhat civil and stay on topic please.

 No.8721

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>>8709
>implying that Yume Nikki was always a tranny game

You know trannies didn't exist until like 2015 right? Most cutesy, KyoAni weebshit was always targeted towards adult men, who liked the aesthetic, even in the west. Like I'm not going to go full schizo and say something like "transgenderism is a psyop used to debase communities made up of adult males, with the added effect of generating revenue through surgeries and HRT" or anything like that, but implying that it wasn't grown-ass men who made up the community is just flat-out wrong.

 No.8722

>>505
I have often and intensely had wet dreams in which I am a pants-shitting femboy/tranny. Is there hope for me yet?

 No.8737

>>8715
if society conditions females to like certain things, turns out they'll like those things most of the time. hence tumblr girls etc.

if somebody then possesses a female soul (or set of mental networks for you sciencefags) the societal coding will work on them, helping establish a feedback loop that eventually leads to them trooning out.

literally none of what >>8709 is saying is enforcing gender stereotypes, simply observing their effects.

tldr stop acting as though you're a gender abolitionist and just say you dont like >>8709's argument because it says that trannies ok

 No.8739

>>8721
Its a bit older than 2015. Trannies didn't really become a well known thing until the 70s thanks to changes in social thinking and medicine. I'd say the first trannies showed up around the 1920s but modern day trannies are products of post-modern consumer soceities. Gene editing, biohacking, and advances in surgey will probably create a world where trannies and even gender are no longer a thing. People will be amorphous sexless entities or have sex organs and features from what used to be the two traditional sexes mixed together or other features we don't think are possible right now. Technological change brought trannies into the world and it will replace them with something else.

>>8737
There is no female soul, or whatever science sounding substitute you like. There is no individual outside social coding. Even your emotions and sensations are just social coding. Individuals do not exist.

>>8709
>They are not stealing the thing you like, these games always had elements that were attractive to women and LGBTQ+.
I'm guessing what really upsets people is the tendency to claim things as your own or slot it into a narcisstic narrative e.g. I ran into a person that claimed Ranma 1/2 is actually about "queer representation" and "binaries" blah etc. when its just a silly comedy show. Not saying you can't interpret it that way, but this person basically insists that if you didn't agree with them you're a homophobe and this is what the show objectively means. There was this one documentary I watched where a bunch of gay activists claimed BL is objectifying gay people and tried to blackmail people for liking it when its just romance slop for women and older males. People get annoyed when someone comes along and says "this thing belongs to my tribe and reflects our worldview and if you don't accept that you're wrong" and when LGBT do this they are backed up by the Western liberal media. Its especially annoying when they rip off other people's shit e.g. gays now claiming the poet Rumi was gay and all his poems are about gayness and identity when anyone who's read them in Persian knows they are religious literature.

 No.8740

This thread is going places

 No.8743

>>8742
> Not even sure why this thread is here
Refer to >>>/sugg/4110 for more info. This topic was derailing almost everything else on here. Banning the posters would bring really bad PR. Making them a separate board would bring really bad PR. Everybody seems to enjoy the status quo of "not thinking about it."

On the other side, /hikki/ activity is at long-time high. The rage bait works for once! Even if it's filled with ramble about things I do not care about.

 No.8744

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 No.8746

>>8745
You do not seem very interested in nuanced discussion yourself, judging by how you completely disregard the possibility of biological factors influencing gender dysphoria


I do agree doe… it should be looked at from a bio-psycho-social model but people are too scared of the possibility that social factors may influence it so the only people willing to even discuss it are trad right wing retards who are unable to consider a hypothesis adjacent but different to their own so we have this lame shitstorm where people assume you're talking in bad faith when you wanna talk about social influences

 No.8747

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>>8745
Anon, this thread isn't for debate, that much has been clear by the staff, there is a thread in /sugg/ for that, clear this thread's airspace unless you wanna talk about hormones or something, idk I'm not even trans myself.

Everyone else continue(or should I say start) talking about whatever trans people talk about.

 No.8749

>>8746
>>8747
report them instead of arguing please, debate only strengthens the individuals existing biases.

 No.8754

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>trans thread starts
>trolls start trolling
>trolls get banned
>thread dies

Many such cases!

 No.8755

Why is there an overlap between autistics and trannies? What explains this?

 No.8769

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>>8766
Checked.

 No.8772

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>>8754
is it trolling if it's just calling a group of people untermensch? i dont mean to sound pretentious but i feel like i remember when trolling meant "actually baiting somebody into doing something silly" and not literally just being a dick for shits and giggles

 No.8773

>>8772
it'd likely be viewed as an insult and thus an attempt to derail, which might result in a ban.

 No.8776

>>8773
eh true enough, i;m so tiredf



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