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We are about to have an influx of refugees from the shuttered 8chan, and this is probably inevitable.
However, this is not 8chan, and it's definitely not 4chon.
Participation is welcome, but a sudden sharp increase of alt-right material and garbage posts will not be tolerated.
Please leave your hitlers, seisatsu.pngs, burning crosses, and shitpost floods at the door.
Even on /ot/, we expect some level of quality in our posts. Please familiarize yourselves with our rules and guidelines, and make sure to lurk before posting.
Also, apologies for deleting the /4chon/ refugee thread outright, I overreacted. There's nothing wrong with such a thread as long as it doesn't cause me too much of a headache.
Enjoy your stay and don't be a dick.
-Seisatsu

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 No.190[Reply]

post itt if you are sickly as well as NEET

i got CFS/ME/SEID/whatever docs wanna call it, but basically im too tired to leave the house or even bed most of the time, and its not depression or anything mental

also get mad headaches, nausea, and dizziness from just standing up

also relevant is itt NO BULLYING ALLOWED!!
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 No.5090

>>4719
Welp I overdid it this summer because of my excitement at getting better so now i'm back to how I was 6 months ago. At least I know I can improve now though, just have to pace myself with is what the doctor has been trying to drill into me this whole time. I get very excited doing anything new so it's fucking hard though.

 No.5488

>>5090
improving again, weightlifting and going outside sometimes, and i'm going to go on another trip to visit my grandparents in 2 weeks that should be chill

living with my parents again sucks though get me OUT

 No.5498

woah, other people are like this?! I'm always ill it sucks i do everything to have a good immune system (except exercise) but i'm just always falling apart, rotting inside and imploding. I feel better knowing i'm not alone

 No.5499

>>5498
Yeah feels like you're cursed or something, maybe that's a childish way to put it but that's how it is. People calling you lazy is inevitable and awful though.

 No.5500

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Rest is important



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 No.4545[Reply]

Anybody else here who used to frequent hikkichan?
It's closed now and I feel like I lost my home.
This is the only other place where I can maybe belong..
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 No.5329

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>>5326
that's what hikkis think. when hikkis look down the abyss thinking they've experienced real misery the children in africa look back up at them from below.
leveraging loser dick size isn't a really healthy thing to do
>>5287 is right, a job is a superficial distinction, I could be flipping burgers any time now but I would still be in the same cultural boiling pot
on the other hand, pick an average person working at a fab and give them the pink slip. boom, they're fired. they're a NEET now because they're currently unemployed and they're not looking (let's just say they're getting things straight for the month) for a job
does that mean they're not a normalfag anymmore? even though they very likely still remain a normal ordinary responsible person and hold interests compatible with (the already loose) definition of normalfags

some people say ubuu is filled with normalfags, but you have to realize most people here are in their late 20s - mid 30s now, people got a job and moved on. we just don't glorify (not glorifying =/= hating) feels or NEETdom like some other boards
i miss /n/

 No.5360

Interestingly enough, the creator of the site has been found leaving a comment on this retrospective on the website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8DplmUzAA&t=1s

 No.5414

>>5326
do not think sadness is a competition, very bad idea

 No.5415

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>>5414
That's what I've been thinking… Furthermore, your 'level of sadness' don't really depend on how high your level of life is, how well you're being treated by other people, your social status etc. I mean miserable hikikkomori nobody cares about can be 100 times happier than rich daughter of some politician or something. I think it all depends on your personal view of life and other extremely subjective things.

With that said, how come person who works be less miserable than hikki? Can this person have social anxiety and depression too? Yes, of course he can, and he's forced to act like a productive member of society everyday. Isn't that sad? That's why sadness isn't a competition.

Everyone's sad in their own way and nobody can have a mental capacity to truly understand what other person feel and why is it that way. I think we should treat each other's sadness equally.

 No.5474

I lurked hikkichan for a long time and posted a couple times. I found this site looking for a replacement. I lurked wizchan too but couldn't post because I've had a girlfriend before.

>>4570 sums it up pretty well


Looking at this thread it seems like this board isn't really for hikki / neet users, just for discussion about hikki's from the outside in, so it's not really comparable to hikkichan.

the problem with the 8chan board is that hikki had a separate board for whiners / depression pity parties, and separate boards for interesting topics to discuss. putting them all on the same board is a recipe for disaster because the conversations get choked out by people just there for attention / trolling / screen shotting for reddit / whining / 'advice' / etc.

I may start a new discord-but-with-forced-anonymous chat for hermits / reclusive people instead since it seems there is still no where quite right to go and it's probably time to ditch most of what chan culture has become.



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 No.5353[Reply]

(I hope it's the right board.)

I think I've been followed/stalked for almost a year now. Possibly had one email hacked too, but I deleted immediately. I closed all my social media.

The problem is, I have absolutely no proof. No alerts, viruses or anything suspicious.

I know it's most likely a "problem" I invented myself but I have a few small reasons to believe it.

Did this happen to anyone else? Do you have any advice?
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 No.5431

what was that chatbro link

 No.5432

>>5431
www.niggers.com/1986

 No.5459

>>5353
Don't worry about your stalker, anon. Kick his ass!

 No.5460

>>5459
That's downright insulting. That's like saying "don't be sad" to a person with depression. You think you're cheering him up this way but that's quite the opposite. Judging by OP's story, he has no way to determine even who his stalker is so what do you mean by saying "Kick his ass!"?

 No.5461

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>>5459
>>5460
They've dealt with it already, so either way it doesn't matter~



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 No.5407[Reply]

Has anyone here ever been obsessed with someone for no reason at all? Not in a crush-esque kinda way, just platonic, if that.

For example, I saw someone a while back on a Discord server and they're probably the only person who shares the same interests on the server as I do. I can't get them out of my head and am constantly thinking about doing stuff together. I've got a circle of friends already, but I just feel some sort of a special connection (?) to them. Am I becoming a creep or something?
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 No.5422

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>>5421
Only schizos and manic depressives get my attention, and it's not because i'm worried e about them.

 No.5423

>>5420
This post scares me slightly, since I'm sure your description of him is how I'm perceived and because there are a couple of people who occasionally engage with me just like you described. I interpreted it as pity before, now I'm worried that I've got some kind of "mysteriousness" to them.

 No.5424

>>5423
In the past, I came across that way to some people. For most, it's more likely to be pity. Anon is just too used to stories about quiet people actually being something extraordinary.

 No.5428

>>5423
Yeah. I just have to say: I'm so sorry.

 No.5429

>>5428
Don't be, I'm sure >>5424 is right. I was just being dumb.



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 No.5085[Reply]

I'm going back to school in a few weeks after having been shut in my room for probably 5 years. I dropped out of high school a while back, and even before then my parents took me out of elementary school in favor of homeschooling, since then I've had trouble and barely kept up. I've taken online classes for most of it, but I'm being encouraged to go out and actually attend classes, most because I do want more opportunities out of the house, and my computer is busted.

I'll be taking a high school equivalency thing first before actual college, but the thing is, I have no idea what to expect. I haven't interacted with anyone my own age in real life since I started being homeschooled, so I have no social skills. Additionally, I lack confidence in my own skills and have always struggled. I slacked off a lot and now I'm so behind. I've been trying to study but I don't have experience with a lot of this. Nobody is really helping me, and I can't help but think that, since this is just high school, college will be harder and leave me more drained and depressed than ever before.

No one has even told me what to expect. It's like they just keep dancing around the issue whenever I ask how bad it will be, which isn't helping my anxiety. And I keep stressing out over how much this'll cut into my time and what to do with my life, and hours and weeks and homework and getting high grades. I don't want to just waste any of my time here, but I guess I have to do this if I want to be a functioning member of society and get money. But I just wish someone would help me.

Is it really as bad as I'm thinking? If So, how do I hold out these next few years wasting my life on things I won't ever need to really know without breaking down and killing myself?
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 No.5373

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>>5370
>computer science
Oof, have fun getting interviewed by Rahul. That field's been getting more fucked since y2k, anon.
source: my seasoned cousin who's in between jobs and does consultation calls to get by

 No.5375

>>5373
Anecdotal evidence. I know plenty of people who got good careers as software developers. Don't try to discourage people. I think this board should be about encouraging each other to do well, not telling people that they're going to fail.

 No.5380

>>5375
Anecdotal evidence has value when it comes from an insider. My cousin knows plenty of people in the same situation. Maybe software developers have it better for now than in banks and other type of firms that need an IT department. Companies are certainly looking into outsourcing development though, even if that's not widely implemented right now. I'm not sure how much upward mobility that has anyway. Unrealistic optimism isn't that useful either. I'll ask my cousin about developers.

 No.5394

>>5380
Yeah, he said software developers are also having a harder time, but the biggest issue is getting hired into a senior position. Indians work for less and companies are eager to abuse the work visa system. I don't know what your friends are doing or what their background is, but these problems certainly exist and are getting worse.

 No.5404

>>5370
>>5373
Only the low-tier companies outsource their work to India via HCL/infosys/etc. Most of this work is braindead enterprise CRUD stuff anyway. Startups and reputed firms that need quality devs usually shy away from outsourcing, though that doesn't mean they still don't abuse the visa system. Also most of the people in the field nowadays are asians, and the bar keeps getting higher as more as more people enter the field.

Computer Science is still a fun and practical degree though, and at least for the next ~5 years or so it won't be *impossible* to get a job. I'd suggest not specializing in machine learning though since that bubble is probably going to pop soon.



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 No.5143[Reply]

How does one prevent themselves from becoming hikikomori? Did anyone narrowly avoid it or have any advice for those that they would have liked to give their past selves?


just going to give the tl;dr because nobody would read what I typed
>wasted my time on a degree I don't want a job in
>learned nothing
>anxiety
>depression
>no confidence
>no skills
>co-workers hate me
>ugly and self-conscious about it
>living at home is really appealing right now
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 No.5387

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>>5385

I wasn't even trying to sage the thread to begin with also to respond to your point that's why i said from a more western perspective social and societal pressure exist everywhere anon therefore due to society's social and societal pressures anyone could become a hikikomori regardless of what country they live in but you are correct that in most western countries parents wouldn't enable this behavior and that's why i said while hikikomori do exist outside Japan they are extremely rare and of course i am not proud of it it is not something to be proud of however i just accept the fact that it is who i am. As far as people appropriating the term well wouldn't you get mad too if you were dealing with a psychological problem and people were running around on the internet calling themselves that psychological problem because they think it is a cool new buzzword or an alternative lifestyle which it isn't so i have every right to be offended it literally is no different than someone running around yelling hey everybody i am depressed isn't that cool? hell yeah LOLOL it is disrespectful to those who actually suffer with the condition i have Japanese hikikomori friends and they hate people like you guys because they see it as a form of mocking and disrespect also yes a hikikomori can leave their room to use the bathroom and some do leave the house for necessities or emergencies at night.

 No.5388

>>5387
>hikikomori friends

 No.5389

>>5387
Aside from the rare person who calls himself a "semi-hikki", I don't really see people going around here calling themselves a hikkimori. The board's called /hikki/, but that's pretty much it. Where did you hear this was a site dedicated to that very specific group of people? Where does it claim that? You're making up an issue because you can't handle how this site deals with these types of issues and that the people giving advice don't themselves have said issues, which makes no sense to me. That's what you're really offended by and you said as much in your first post. You're driving this thread off-topic for the sake of bitching about your own personal problems with ubuu and insulting the users. If you don't like it here, fuck off back to your wizchan circlejerk.

 No.5390

>>5389

Almost every single english speaking Neet and hiki community is full os normalfags and people pretending anon.

 No.5391

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Jesus, I thought we already got over this truneet / semihikki ordeal. Truth is, most users here don't really relish in feeling like a loser, if you've inspected the catalog. There are feel threads but most look over to the positive pasture instead of whining about wageslaves. Some are content with what they have and would like to remain on the status quo, and that's fine, we don't give them shit. If you want to discuss bodypillows, onaholes or you just want to vent, that's fine, you can do it here. If you want to incessantly whine in a srs_bsns manner on how jews/females/trannies/niggers/normies are Satan, then maybe Ubuu is not your cup of tea.

Thread is locked as its derailed too far, feel free to start a new thread with the same topic. Anyone that tries to derail future threads under the pretense of NEET/normalfag crusades will be dealt with more harshly from now on.



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 No.5315[Reply]

I'm back to the NEET life after 2 whole years of hard work to replenish my unemployment rights, man it's hard to be a decent NEET these days, this was so hard on me that I am now on anti-depressants…

What do you guys do to earn money and stay at home?
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 No.5327

German?

 No.5330

>>5315
anti-depressants don't work. it's placebo.

 No.5332

>>5327

Nah, I'm French, but yeah I'm in Europe ^^

>>5330

I wouldn't be so sure, it kinda works for me, doesn't solve everything but helps me cope and deal with it more easily which is already a relief.

 No.5334

>>5332
which kind are you on if you dont mind?

 No.5336

>>5334

It's called Fluoxetine, but well it's basically Prozac, I get a pill of 20mg each day since 2 months…



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 No.3241[Reply]

Do you have any unusual aspirations that you did not have outside of NEETdom?

I have been getting some very strange longings to become a street artist. I've even been creating stencils and posters that I will never put up. I guess the optimistic viewpoint is that I've been released from wage slavery and now want to do something real and exciting with my life, but its never going to happen anyway because I'm too scared of the police so I mostly just sleep and kill myself.

I also want to wear a cloak and sword and go on a Hobbit style adventure, but…
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 No.5294

>>5289
Yeah, I have a room and a PC to myself, as well as a graphic tablet on which I practice frequently. But the thing is, whenever I draw something and don't want to show it my family probably thinks I'm drawing porn or some similar suspicious stuff.
By the way, drawing during the night is impossible because they like to check in on me often.

 No.5295

>>5294
>they like to check in on me often
What at night? Unless you're actually a ten year-old that is creepy as fuck and you should ask them to stop. Hell, even if you are ten they should at least knock first.

 No.5297

>>5294
You should draw propaganda for an arbitrary group of extremists. They soon will be glad to find you just working on some dick sketches.
>like to check in on me often
Wtf! Are you on suicide watch?

 No.5298

>>5295
What at night? Unless you're actually a ten year-old that is creepy as fuck and you should ask them to stop. Hell, even if you are ten they should at least knock first.
>>5297
Wtf! Are you on suicide watch?

They think it's normal to check in on your adult kid 24/7. I told them countless times to stop, but nothing has changed. I can't argue with them either because "it's their house and as long as I live here, I'll have to obey their rules".

 No.5299

>>5298
You should focus on moving out first. Or at least pay rent and argue that gives you the right to privacy. Does your door even have a lock?



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 No.5207[Reply]

I don't think I can endure it any longer. Life is just too much of a drag for me.

I stopped going to a therapist almost a year ago because he moved into another office, so the reservations were cleared. There are no other therapists in my town and going somewhere else is just too expensive. I've been trying to call him for several months, but he hasn't responded to me once. Maybe he doesn't want to interact with me anymore since I'm so broken.

My social skills are progressively getting worse. It's so severe that I'm even anxious when I talk to a friend on Discord. Most of the time even the simplest messages contain grammar errors, are unfinished, and sometimes even completely unrelated to previous ones.
As for the real life conversations, they share most of the same problems but it's accompanied by stuttering and similar speech impediments.

I have a crush on a Twitter mutual (yeah, I'm that sad) and I fucking regret it. She's an artist and I really look up to her, so I started to practice my drawing skills for a while so I can get noticed by her, but no one ever even noticed them (the way I draw is shit anyway, so I believe didn't have any chances lol). I replied to like 2 of her tweets with my shitty jokes that she for some reason really liked, or maybe she just pretended so I can feel noticed/respected/whatever. I wanna talk to her but I don't know how. Even a simple thought like DMing her saying "hi" makes my heart beat like a nuclear bomb.

I was never diagnosed with it, nor do I want to self diagnose myself, but there's a high chance that I'm on the Autism spectrum. I have a plenty of similar symptoms to Asperger's and PDD-NOS. The thought of that makes me extremely depressed all the time and I don't wanna exist anymore.

I haven't been suicidal for about 9 months, but the wish to end myself has returned about 2-3 days ago. I'm only 18 and I don't see any glimmers of hope in the distance anymore. Every single day since I graduated highschool exactly 5 months ago I've been doing nothing but laying in bed and playing some shit idle game without any sort of changes in daily routine. I don't even know what I should do anymore.

(sorry for the terrible composition and grammar, i havent written anything serious in a long time)
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 No.5232

> I'll try to message her when/if I gather enough courage.
you are doing it wrong
you need to do this asap or you will forever delay it and say "it is just not the right timing". One day she will dissappear and you will hate yourself forever for not trying. So next time you both are online just do it.
Even if she does not like you, it is worth to get out of your comfort zone and be bold once every now and then.

 No.5244

>>5232
Yeah, I'd go with that. I used to have things I delayed until forever, and they disappeared quickly like snap of the fingers. Drink something for courage if you have to.

 No.5258

OP here again. It's too late for me to message her. She posted an update on Twitter today saying something about her new boyfriend. I can't help but feel extremely guilty since you've told me to message her as soon as possible.

Well, I can't do anything about it so I'll give up. I need to stay away from everyone so I don't get hurt anymore.

 No.5261

>>5258
please be safe op

 No.5276

>>5207
>>5258
Relationships don't mean anything, stop comparing yourself to others. Isolation does wonders for the mind, you can free yourself through it.



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 No.4755[Reply]

Ever consider taking a vow of silence?

Like I get so tired of people calling me stupid or retarded… or just giving me *that* look. It would be so much easier to just shut up forever.
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 No.5236

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>>5234
>it's my college degree
Bad decision Anon. Also, learning how to fake emotions isn't that hard. If psychopaths can do it, so can you.

 No.5237

>>5236
I don't think anybody here is a psychopath.

 No.5239

>>5236
>>5237
NEETs/hikkis tend to have issues like anxiety and depression, right? Aren't psychopaths people who lack empathy or feelings? I think that, in order to be a NEET/hikki, you have to feel emotions too intensely. Social anxiety is caused by thinking about other people's judgments too much. If someone was a psychopath (or maybe I am getting words confused here), they wouldn't care at all what other people think. In fact, that kind of insanity could lead to extremely high confidence.

 No.5241

>>5237
>>5239
He's implying that if a psycho can feign emotions they do not possess, "so can you", not that anybody here is a psychopath.

 No.5271

I want to send my love to all of you anons, and I feel you, as someone who's been bullied in an inescapable setting, and considered this. I recommend writing in a journal, talking to yourself, or if you can, finding one person that you can talk to about random things. Expressing yourself regularly will give you a sense of being a stable, logical, single human being, and other people's behavior doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you. Our minds are beautiful and we were all meant.



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