/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

>>6627
i was left alone like you playing vidya since age 3. i guess it was also my fault though. though i remember i could only play for only 1.30 h in the evening. so i think i spent most of my time in my room drawing and playing with lego. I was liked by everyone troughout all my school but i always "kept distance". The only guys i would go further with friendship were the outcasts or the people that were considered weirdos, it's like i was a magnet for troubles.
I had a neighbour as a friend but when it came to going out "playing" i was always trying to avoid that since i can remember. My "outer" friends where in sports and physical stuff which i hated, and i am also allergic to a lot of stuff (also fair of skin and hair and every possible "weak" gene). I guess some people are just born this way?
I'm starting to think that some NEETs are part of an aristocratic descent (not royal high level but just a House or similar) and we just have it on our genes. This is lamarkism thinking (which i got from Nietzsche tbh) but it would explain why some of us resort to (or at least wish to) buy land and live a self sustained life. I am not saying that we are entitled to be this way at all, and we should strive to be self sustaining, but i heard a lot of us feel like we are born in the wrong place. That's also probably why we despise being employees so much.
I'm sure the key is in hating being an employee of someone else for all our life. I was never convinced about the "you're just lazy" explanations for the most part.
Of course, there are other issues as well, but maybe they all stem from this fact?
Anyways, i'm just rambling.

>>8047
Are there many people with bad experiences with religion here? I was brought up in a heavily religious setting too.

>>8150
Are you >>8020? I can provide with some cyb resources if you want to try. Although i only did less than a year, for me minimum wage jobs feel terrible and i would only do one if i lived in some rural place where i am sure the money can suffice and i can eventually grow my own stuff and get some land. That's my probable plan Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>8151
Yeah, I'm the OP, and everyone you replied t0. (except Sei)

Thank you for wanting to help, but I don't live in the US or Europe so I don't know how much CYB could be of help to me. Think I'll just have to deal with my parents from now on and try to get a min. wage job that won't turn me insane.

>>8152
it's okay, i mean "cyb" as in /cyb/ (the board) which means cybersecurity. i have some stuff to get started (which i still have to get into myself):
https://cyberpunk-life.neocities.org/
https://github.com/Hack-with-Github/Awesome-Hacking
https://github.com/sbilly/awesome-security
https://sizeof.cat/links/#security
you just need a laptop, no need to have something powerful. there's the cyb career faq in the first website of these iirc that explains a possible path to get a job in the field
anyways, hope you can resist in there, i know the feeling. just don't get stuck in a wagie job for eternity (difficulty: impossible)

>>8153
Thank you, I will look into everything you send in the morning. Is it actually possible to just get a cybersec job without a degree? I've seen plenty of NEETs do it over the years. Maybe it's possible with COMPTia certs.

>>8154
looks like it is but don't get my word for it. you'll learn script and automation stuff anyway so a sys admin position could also be a thing maybe?
keep me updated!

>>5751
It sucks to have anxiety mixed with poor social skills but you should really try to finish uni. Once you're done with that then just find a job in IT where you don't really have to deal with people in person and you'll be fine.

>>5751
If you're really an IT major then the cutting edge for you would be learning every shell you can possibly learn.

As in, become fluent in Unix and Bash, learn PowerShell, learn how to script in all of those, and try your hand at other CLIs as well, like maybe Cisco IOS or Python scripting.

If you can demonstrate proficiency in these things you're 10x more employable than the average schmuck that only has Windows based certifications or whatever the case is. IT is moving towards automation. Learn programming and scripting.

Sorry for not replying in a long time,I have not really made much progress.I am better though.
Soo,I have managed to go to a total of 3 hours of attendence last semester,no exams done,but I will start going from this new semester,this is the first week,I really plan on going this time!No jobs yet,but the internship period is starting,my university might help me with that.
>>5984
I am from Europe,I don't know how the major definition works but I am at an IT profile for Computer Science.
Do you have any sources from when you started learning?Like some books maybe?I have some myself and found some more but I would like to know what you used yourself.
I just set up Emacs and learned a lot about it,now I will try and learn some programming languages or scripting.I mostly know C++,a little bit of C and Java.
I have not taken actions for my OCD yet,like going to get help from a specialist or anything like that yet!

>>5980
>>5980
I finished uni and I'm a total sperg with zero social skills. Went to class said nothing and came home.

>>5751
hey anon, still here? how are you doing? I'm 20 neet and currently thinking of retrying a CS degree (so i will be 21 when i start). I was wondering how it went for you, hope you are in a better place right now.

>>8136
hmm indeed thats a very interesting view point if i say so myself! you're rigth! we are the same AI, haha good one i love it

>>8133
>>8133

What's your life like??

>>8139
i don't have life

>i see people on the internet, being happy toghether and knowing im alone i cant help but want it too
Overstimulation leads to depression. Its like porn, you see so much of it you get a false sense of how things are in reality and start having negative thoughts that feed more porn consumption. The internet is like an evil spirit that offers up the most amazing images and visions except they are all just tricks and illusions. Its like that evil spirit that lures lost travellers in the forrest and takes them into its world. When your in the forrest, you have to beware of such creatures and not fall for their tricks. That doesn't mean never go for a hike or appreciate their beauty but don't get your head stuck in iydillic images being spoon fed to you by a corporate machine.

Ask yourself, will these things really make me happy or are these images manipulating the primitive lizard-like parts of my brain? You should want friends because you want to be happy or be with another person and genuinely form bonds with people. If you want friends because you want the fantasy life the internet is selling you then your basically suffering from either jealousy or despair and that can lead you down a path of negativity. You begin measuring yourself by what your not and what you never can be and feel like a failure or you resent the world and hate it.

hi, i can relate to you, because i'm still fighting this whole cycle im in, some advice my therapist has told me is that 1.- it is okay to not to everything at the same time in one day, every small thing counts, like taking the trash out, or taking a bath, heck, even cleaning one or more dishes, every small step is still a step.
One thing that helped me become "active" is to put some old shoes that were uncomfy af, and it made my brain to move and do things
my room is still a mess most days, but i do small things like making the bed or opening the window to let some sun and air to flow, and im starting to appreciate those small things.
As to going outside, thing i barely do, unless to visit my therapist and idk, buy meds, i go out walks on mornings or late nights, i hate seeing people, i hate being outside but doing this is making me to adapt more to the outside world.
I hope this text from a random stranger can help you in some way, social interaction is scary, be strong out there

>>4851


>online long distance relationships exist and those isolated in their rooms won't be any less hikki for that.

I mean there could also be a physical relationship of 2 hikkies in a room togheter that dont interact with soceity and other stuff like a single hikki whould and tick all the boxes if we where to count them as one person like not going outside for 6 months and not interacting with others (other than themselfes) . dont know if that counts as hikki or just NEET.

While very unlikely , its a possibility , the most likely way i can think of is hikki meeting hikki online and falling in love then deciding to move in the same room.

I mean hikki is ultimately just a label to describe existing behaviour at the end of the day so it doesnt really matter of someone is labeled a hikki or not because if they still suffer most if not all the symptoms (for example didnt leave the room for 10 months except one time 5 months ago when they needed to buy milk from the store may not be techically hikki because they left the room but still suffer the acute social withdrawl and all that stuff).

>>6488
My ideea was that its a very socially recluse couple , as in:

-spending most of the day and nearly every day confined to home,

-marked and persistent avoidance of social situations, and social relationships, (except for the GF/BF)

-social withdrawal symptoms causing significant functional impairment,

-duration of at least six months, and
no apparent physical or mental etiology to account for the social withdrawal symptoms.

>>4784
If somebody wanted to be a normie they could do it on heyuri or 7chan
I'm glad you think you're that important

I see why this place has cleared out over the late 2010s. Anyway OP did you meet that girl?

>>7615
Your living the life anon.

andrew tate ass post lmao

>>7993
>>7788
It's too late to be having your lolbert Pinochet dickrider phase at your age.

Totally relatable. I hate you OP also, because you're a faggot who doesn't do shit just as anyone else. I hate myself also. My hate is universal and is applied to every entity with the only exception of Providence. I will not allow myself to find fault with Providence. Everything else is subject to my hate. Fuck off.

>>8085
Introverted loser who likes to be inside all day and is into "nerd stuff" and memes. Everybody can be special and in the club!

>>8088
what did it ever mean before that? seems like its more of the same, minus twitter memes and mainstream appeal… (failed normalfags?) maybe hikkis who are hikkis post 2020 are fake hikkis and pre-2020 hikkis are genuine approved hikkis that are worth a lot to collectors on ebay

>>8089
NEETs were people without jobs, school, and training for jobs. Hikkis are shut-ins who seldom leave their house or room.

>>8090
According to Saito's book on Hikikiomori, it almost always starts with school refusal in the teenage years. I agree on the distinction. I think NEET should be an economic term to distinguish people who don't participate in society much, and Hikikiomori is more of a mental issue preventing someone from leaving their house/room, which can have many causes.

>>7863
I hope you don't drop out. It only gets harder and harder to recover the longer you're away from others. Good luck

>>8091
I don't actually have any problem leaving my house/room, I just don't have any friends or money to do anything.

>I lately noticed how little i leave room
on average how long do you go?
>getting scary how much i despise the outside world
if its causing you great distress, id suggest talking to a therapist

glad to hear you feel free somewhere

>>8099 it isn't the same for you ?

>>8100
no it is, but i know some people that feel utterly trapped as hikkis

>>7848
I really apreciate you putting your lessons here, i'm not one to post a lot either, and when i do all i can feel is doubt, i fear what people might think of me, that's because i've always wanted to be seen as smart and the cool guy lol. i'm trying to get into the state of mind of not caring about it, and only minding my own, it's been a bit tough but every day i feel more and more, even if for a few hours, that i'm a real person. i hate most social media sites, popular things just feel like complete garbage to me, and i just don't want to feel bad about it anymore. im just replying because i wouldn't want a post like yours to be left out in the wind, you've poured your heart into it i can really tell, thanks again i wish you the best.

People were posting about this in 2021? Lol, things have only gotten worse in 2024. I know how lame multi-replying is but this is the only thread I have enjoyed reading through in sometime. Please be patient and understanding!
>>6735
You can also use AI to further develop and streamline your interests and hobbies. I find it a great deal of fun just coming up with ways to do so. I hope you're okay.
>>6604
>>6605
We've moved to:
https://wapchan.org/tower/
Be warned, this is, by far, the deadest iteration of magicchan yet.
>>7109
No, I really don't think so. The worst are usually constantly embarassing themselves online while stalked by scum from kiwifarms, already dead, or downloading CP/snuff from somewhere.
>>7871
I'm not 30 yet, but yes, the older guys generally have a more refined stylometry. You almost never see them now compared to years ago.
>>7848
>I find peace in working on myself instead of trying to form connections with random people on a global scale
>maybe being a loser for too long helps you to finally work on yourself and leave behind some parts, hence why neets in online spaces are disappearing.
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I'd love to try visiting any of the sites recommended itt but I don't use a vpn. it felt like lainchan definitely tracked users and logged all sorts of information, or that somehow other users had more access to that kind of information than the average halfchanner ever cared to know, or just couldn't track too easily because of the larger userbase. with smaller sites you risk comfy for "comfy" I think, don't you? is what I'm trying to say. Am I being too paranoid?

>>8073
Not at all. Severeal years ago, I got the wizardchan mods platinum mad because I often called them out on their blatant bullshit. I definitely had a few stalk my presence with a grudge on the site until I left for good.
I'm not active anywhere to warrant such measures but If I was, I definitely would leave much less of a digital footprint.

>>6852
Anyone know who this guy was talking about? I really wanna read those essays…

Nothing annoys me more than seeing normies take the label of neet/hikki as a stand-in for their lack of any discernable inner-substance – they think being a hikikomori is cute and wear it as means of an identity, to seem special as it were. It's demeaning when it happens since – as you've pointed out – it becomes impossible to connect with others in any meaningful way. The experience and subsequent hardships of the condition is lost to the vanity of the crayon-eating masses.

>>8069

like autism, methinks

everybody and their mother just sticks it in their bio to make up for their dreary lack of personality

which, speaking as a full blown retard, really pisses me off

>>8064
"on discord", sorry but genuinely what does this mean? can you search for random people to talk to through tags or something now? how is it that you're running into supposedly so many normies like this that describe themselves like this, I'd want to make actual neet friends too because normalfags are always thinking it's some psychopathic thing to not leave the house but I'm also too afraid to search on my own and haven't tried anything yet, what is it that you're doing so far?

Having some neet friends would be nice

>how long have you been a NEET?
Three or so years.

>reason for you becoming a NEET?
Had full-time job for about five and a half years, then the lockdowns happened, then I lost my job.

>what do you do all day?
Youtube, Minecraft, chatting.

>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
Nothing IRL, just online chatting (mostly on the fediverse but I pop back to image boards every several months or so)

>how often do you get outside, if at all?
Two or three times a week. Mostly to watch my nieces.

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>how long have you been a NEET?
probably 4 or 5 years now
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
i just never went back to school after moving. no high school education means i'm unable to find a job where i live for the most part. i've tried for a while and no places want me. i guess aside from that i'm just not compatible with other people. i'm happier when i'm alone
>what do you do all day?
i like to draw every day, i'm attempting to learn how to compose music and create video games using rpg maker. i do a lot of cleaning and household activities as well as picking up some exercise recently. i think my daily activities are a lot better than what they used to be when i was always around other people
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
only talk to family offline, but even then i still distance from them. i have a few people i talk to online
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
maybe once a month. i want to start going for walks again, stopped initially because i was unnerved by other people
>do you live independently or with parents?
parent and siblings. though i'm getting a lot older and i'll have to move eventually

>how long have you been a NEET?
Since the day I dropped out high school near the end 2016, so 7-8 years now.

>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
Autism and my upbringing: grew up poor, raised by an unstable and neglectful parent, and having my mind and spirit (and my front teeth) broken by the public school hell. Relentless bullying (which turned into regular assaults and beatings from middle school onward) and alienation throughout my entire adolescence lead to me becoming a dysfunctional non-adult who is isolated, and extremely paranoid about others. I don't believe I would've survived another year of HS. Thoughts of ending it still regularly cross my mind when painful memories from school randomly come back, or whenever I'm reminded of just how far behind I am compared to normal healthy people my age (24) and younger.

>what do you do all day?
I lost interest in my hobbies (namely art and gamedev) and did nothing but sleep all day, and lurk various image boards and dead forums from 2017-2020. September 2021 I upgraded from my old laptop to a decent PC with money I had saved from the stimulus checks, and decided to get back into art, learn and get good at 3D art with Blender, and actually create something instead of wasting away. I squandered much of 2022, binging through various games I had missed out on, and did not make as much progress as I had wished. Starting 2023, I decided to play less games and dedicate my time to practicing and grinding away at 2D and 3D art until it's decent enough to post online, get good at animating, and learn a certain game engine I've been wanting to work with. I Feel like I've made good progress over the past year, and have come to realize that I absolutely need to keep myself busy, as to not ruminate over negative thoughts and memories, or engage in self-destructive behavior.

>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
I currently have zero internet friends, no presence on social media, and never had single IRL friend either. My mother and 19 year old brother (who is also a neet and autistic) are usually locked away in their rooms like myself. We only exchange a few words with each other each day, if any. I feel like I'm too broken to connect with anyone anymore, and just not compatible with this society which has devolved into Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19
>how long have you been a NEET?
5-6 years, fuck me
>was there a reason for you becoming a NEET?
It first started when i was going to college then i had a constant panic attack that lasted a month or a couple of weeks. In which i had spent most of my days sleeping then if not having an anxiety attack. It obviously eventually ended in me being kicked out because i wasn't showing up and i just never tried to go back.
>what do you do all day?
I basically waste my life away playing games, I do read once in a while but most things are quite boring or unfun.
>what form of social interaction do you have, online and offline?
Not much i don't have any friends anymore both real life and offline, i mostly just talk to my sibling once in a while. It isn't enough though so i mostly just suffer and endure with playing games.
>how often do you get outside, if at all?
I used to go outside a lot but now it is once in a while when i have a bit of money saved.
>do you live independently or with parents?
With family sadly, holy shit i wrote my life story.

>>8052
i hope the best for you and that your life can get back on track, especially with the 3d blender art. the world is a cruel place.