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 No.416[Reply]

I'm sure many of you know this feel:

>Realize you need to go somewhere with your life or everything will end horribly when you least expect it to


>Attempt to get something done


>If not 5 minutes later, you are eventually hit by a varying intense level of depression while attempting to do whatever task you decided, as if by facing your life, you can no longer not face how you are feeling.


>end up going back to the computer to distract yourself from the pain after only getting 1 thing done if you are lucky.


For any former NEETs here, how the fuck did you get past this? I feel the more I force myself to endure the depression the more depressed I get and the harder it is to get shit done, as fucking pretentious edgelordriffic as that unintentionally sounds.

 No.419

I've considered suicide.

There is no "getting past it" when there simply are no fulfilling alternatives.

 No.421

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As a former NEET that put himself into a situation where I have to work now, a very long fucked up story I might make a thread about it one day. Getting something done least for me requires stuff biting at my ass and a sense of severe consequences if I don't do something.

The situation I am in at this very moment requires me to work but I put myself into this situation originally as a trade off to thinking I'd be getting something I want out of it which I no longer will so now I have to work even though I really don't want to and have to suffer through what I put myself into but I'm getting more done in my life than I ever have in 3 years of being a NEET. Getting out of NEETdom isn't sunshine and roses but once your out it's almost impossible to get back into least with my case. In reality I don't care for a paycheck or other aspects of what people call a "normal" life expect one thing which makes me think I was born in the wrong time but I do feel a little bit better that I've come such a long way in one year even for things I do not care for I feel I have more power over my life and other people's lives than I previously thought I had.

Even though I have will and motivation now because of all the bad stuff happening to me, I still get depressed and have the strong urge to end it all. I've never been in so much stress in my life but who knows it might be worth it eventually though my addictions are crushing me along the way and it seems the only thing that gives me hope is my addictions, I realize how fucked up that is but oh well.

tl:dr In short the best way to get something done is to act like or actually have a situation where there will be horrible consequences if you don't do it which for you there might be in the future that you over looked. Fear, envy, wrath and strife have driven people to do many things my advice might come of as irresponsible but in my own life I found that to be the only real thing to make me get anything done well that and my addictions.



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 No.3096[Reply]

I'm not quite sure what compelled me to post this or what reminded me of this place, but this is the first time I've been on this imageboard in years, perhaps the last time being 2013-2014 as far as I can even remember my time as a hikki. I didn't post very much, and when I did, I made sure not to make a name for myself. I was a hikki for 3 1/2 years, give or take based on what you consider the cut-off between NEET and hikki status. It's been nearly 3 years now since I left that lifestyle and ostensibly cured myself. Not to say I don't still have some mental abnormalities, but they're undetectable, both to myself and to others. I went back to college, graduated with a STEM degree and great grades. I applied for a job a couple weeks ago and am going in for an interview in a few days. I got a gf and lost my virginity last year, and now have a decently large friend group of very normal people that I blend in with completely, and sometimes don't even feel like an outlier around.

I don't mean to bore you with my life story – I just wanted to let you know that it is possible to get better and escape this lifestyle. I won't lie, I sometimes get brief pangs of nostalgia for the days of sleeping 15+ hours a day eating nothing but ramen and wasting all my time on the computer. But I feel okay now. I don't feel afraid, or anxious, or suicidal, or empty, or confused anymore. I feel healthy, I feel comfortable, I feel almost normal. Things can get better. Not just for me, but for you. It's not easy, and I've learned over the years to not try to offer what worked for me as advice, but I just want you all to know that it is possible to get out of this. The world is beautiful unobscured by depression, anxiety, fear, depersonalization, etc. I care about all of you and I want to see you all do good. I won't be sticking around for long – I don't want to reinforce long-dead habits – but I hope one day you can all join me. I love you all. Good luck my friends.
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 No.3184

>>3182
hikki =/= NEET though.

 No.3185

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good for you OP, thanks for remembering us, offering perspective, and letting us share in what for you was victory. i am glad that you achieved your desires.

>no true hikki would ever ____

argumentum ad populum, a purely emotional argument, used in an effort to regulate the hikki/neet community.

>OP's hubris

this deals little with the actual content of the post; given that, according to the sticky, one of the board's primary focuses is advice about "help in escaping the NEET lifestyle," one would think that the input of the ex-NEET/ex-hikki would constitute a valuable contribution to discussion. to the extent that what he wrote is true, his post does offer some degree of perspective on the NEET/hikki experience.

am i wrong?

 No.3354

>>3108
best post on uboachan [SOURCE: 8 yrs lurker]

 No.3355

>>3354
I'm a word smith.

 No.3663

>>3096
I am happy you made it and glad that it turned out so good for you OP. May your happiness be forever for you and your family.



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 No.3249[Reply]

Ay /hikki/
15 year old here.
Fuck it I hate everything and I'm tired of everything.
Long story short, I'm gonna become a neet next year.
Any advices?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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 No.3254

go outside and pet a dog kid

 No.3255

This is why condoms exist.

 No.3256

Lurk before posting and don't forget to go to bed early or mom will be mad.

 No.3257

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Can we shitpost in this thread Sei?

 No.3258

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AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaあああああ



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 No.3229[Reply]

hey so i was 3-months Neet at my mothers house until i got kicked out and now im at my jobs and got my current hours cut to just the weekends, i have going around town looking for any 'now hiring' signs to no luck. so my question for right now is what to do to improve my chances of getting hired/finding a job? Do I go to college and wait 4 years? do i go to vocational school to pick up a skill while i wait at college? do i just keep going at customer service/ retail jobs?

 No.3230

The first thing you could do is start writing properly. What do you mean by going to vocational school while waiting at college? If you go to vocational school, you aren't going to be waiting for college. The option you pick depends on where you want to be in life. Do you want a blue, collar job, or do you want a white collar one?

 No.3231

Create things and sell them on etsy or set up a patreon. Target businesses that you would like to work at and find out if they're hiring or willing to take on an apprentice.

 No.3232

>>3230
By vocational school i was talking about picking up a trade and then leaving to go back to college to get a higher paying job maybe do like>>3231says to make money the only thing that i need now is to find a way ti create something and sell it

 No.3233

>>3232
>the only thing that i need now is to find a way ti create something and sell it

So, the entire business, then?



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 No.3190[Reply]

I don't know if this is going to be a poor OP for a thread but I just became homeless and I really don't know what to do. I'm scared.
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 No.3212

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>>3211
I have a friend who pitched a tent in some deep woods for months when they were homeless. They just walked to town for groceries. It's workable, but turns out there are mountain lions so you don't want to go far from your tent. You also need to really know what you're doing to camp in the wild.

Building a house in the wild is technically possible but it could be discovered eventually. If you're in the US though and want to camp in the woods, look to the Bureau of Land Management's website for a map of areas falling under their jurisdiction. These areas, as I understand, are legal for anyone to camp in at any time as long as they don't build structures.

Really though do your research and do it well before going out deep. You should also do some test runs in less deep areas first to iron out any issues with your plans.

Also since OP has friends they should definitely try staying with friends before staying in the woods.

 No.3213

>>3210
That's a false analogy. Tell me how many people you've seen going to jail for downloading a movie and how many went for taking over a place and making an illegal house on it.

 No.3220

Ask about it on lainchan, they've got some radical homeless people there.

 No.3227

>>3212
Yes I've stayed with friends for the past few nights since I originally got kicked out of my place. My parents said I could come back but fuck that place. Right now I am talking to some people who are saying that they will bounce me around rooms at their college. There is also a wooded area nearby that I think I could feasibly sleep in need be, but I will have to check it out to make sure. The location is also PERFECT for finding work as it is literally right next door to a mall, and various other shopping plaza's.

My plan right now is to save up some money to get my own place, all the while looking for ways to make money online or through some sort of trade that would allow me to travel. Who knows if that will actually work though.

 No.3228

>>3190
I dunno if there are in USA too, but i live in Italy and we have a bunch of left-wing movements that help homeless people (not bums, usually immigrees or "normal" people who lost work or are in a similar situation to yours) to occupy places in cities like unused officies or similar, you can ask them! Sometimes the owner manages to make the police to make occupants leave, but this doesn't happen so often. Living conditions are almost the same as owned house ones, and you can have electricity and water because activists knows how to stealthy interlace with state distibution system. I can confirm cause i have friends living in occupied places. You can occupy houses even without those organisation's help, i know people who did it, but it is more complex and you have to be more than a single person, obviously.



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 No.3139[Reply]

tl;dr turning 20, was a neet starting 2013, got a taste of the good life last year, things fell out; lost job and got arrested, have no good job credentials and I'm losing my mind again living like a hikki in the middle of nowhere

First post here, bear with me. Let me start by saying I turn 20 in three days, and I live a few miles into the countryside next to a big city. Before July of last year, I was a NEET since my parents pulled me out of my junior year of high school. I got a job at Home Depot starting October of 2015 but my life was mostly restricted to work and homelife at that point. I tried networking with my coworkers but alas, it didn't go very far. I still don't have my driver's license, and HS homeschooling failed so no diploma. A bad weed experience and a bad DXM experience coupled with depression lead to some of the worst depersonalization I think I would ever experience and life was generally a depressing, chaotic mindfuck until midsummer last year.
Around July of last year, I started working out. I would also loiter in some public places like vape shops, and met my most recent best friend. I met some more people, some good, some bad like a few methheads and my ex gf, but overall I had a circle going. I was working out here and there still, was around friends and acquaintances, and even had a party here and there. I went over a year without playing any video games, got a tattoo, was meeting new people, unintentionally started NoFap, lost a lot of weight, smoked a lot of kush with good experiences, lost my virginity, got taken places like different cities by my circle, and while I lost my job due to the hecticness of my social life, I was constantly up to something and generally felt better and enjoyed life's adventures.
However, things started to crash around the beginning of the new year. Me and gf broke up, (not exactly anything bad tho kek) had a falling out at that time with my best friend, another good friend moved out of the city, and being jobless, I was left more or less broke. (I'd work temp work for some pocket cash here and there, but it's a pain in the ass to get on location and I was always left with less than $80 on any day.) I tried going back to school to give me something to do, but was arrested 3 weeks later after buying weed from someone there like an idiot, and was sent to alternative HS after I got out of jail on bail. The location was quite too far, and while I opted for a bus, the pickup time was wayPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.3164

>>3163
Thought I should mention I work as a computer programmer. I spent several years of my life to get here and now I almost want to work at pizza hut

 No.3165

>>3164
Actually I have no idea what my point is. What the fuck are my problems?

 No.3166

>>3165
I am an idiot

 No.3167

>>3163
It's gotten to the point (at least in the USA) where the costs outweigh the benefits. There are better avenues to progress to high income levels without the horrendous debt burden. It's only really worth it if you have someone else footing the bill (through contacts, grants, or scholarships, never fukken loans; those will ream you 50x over)

 No.3168

>>3159
Step one would probably be to get a minimum wage job somewhere until you can afford transportation. If you're living at home and don't really have rent/bills to pay, that's not as far out there as it seems. Even part time minimum wage would net you (provided you're in the US) at least $500/month, which would give you a decent down payment in about 6 months if you were putting some of it towards personal needs and food etc. Always test drive, and avoid "buy here pay here" scam lots. Might help to call up some local mechanics and see if any have specials where they'll look over a vehicle you're looking at, let you know what's going to need fixed or replaced in the short term, and give you fuel to use in bartering down the price. Usually you can get a dealer to take enough off after that to where it pays for itself, and it would steer you clear of any lemons. Then, it's simply fuel and routine oil changes, keeping a couple hundred in the bank in case of emergency repairs.

Once you have a car, you'd be able to expand your job search greatly and move up to something that pays better. A good start is call center work or data entry work, they don't require any advanced degrees, you can get full time of better-than-min-wage (tho not great, usually between $10 and $12/hr) with benefits, and network out from there to move up.

Source: School of Fukken' Hard Knocks



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 No.3123[Reply]

I'm no longer a NEET/Hikki after about 2/3 years and time began flowing completely different for me. Everyone said when you're at work and it's busy time flies but that's the opposite. It's like time is in a stand still. What feels like 40 minutes it only 5.

In general time feels so much longer now that I have things I have to do. An hour feels so long while I'm getting ready for work. I'm always early because of it. As a NEET everyday sort of blurred together and time went by extremely fast even when I mostly sat around doing nothing all day.

Does anyone else have something similar happen? It's been jarring for me since I thought I'd have no time to myself but now I can barely get through that time.

 No.3124

>>3123
I 100% know what you mean. I was a hikki for longer than I've been out of it, but all the years I spent as a hikki feel like probably 1/30th the time that I've been out of it. It was a really jarring transition because, when I was a hikki, time felt normal if not kind of blurry and mundane. But after maybe a month of having a job I noticed that my memory of all those years got extremely blurry and what felt like a few years suddenly felt like maybe a year at the most, and the longer time went on the shorter my time as a hikki seemed. My guess is that the life of a NEET/hikki has so little mental and physical stimulation, your memory only has so much to work with to form memories, which would also explain why time seemed so blurry and monotonous too.



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 No.3085[Reply]

i'm looking for some perspective, as i'm not really sure where my life will be going.

i am about to enter for-real neetdom for the first time in my life, but i know my parents will not let that be the case for long. i don't want to get too detailed, mostly because a lot of it isn't relevant, but my relationship with my parents got really fucky when i first hit puberty. i couldn't explain why i was feeling the way i was, so i would lock myself in my room and shut them out. they didn't understand what was happening, some bad stuff happened over time, but after 3 years of constant fighting they gave up on me.

they still don't understand why i am the way i am, which is my fault for never letting them. thanks to something that happened during the years when we were fighting pretty much any sense of trust i had in people in real life was shattered. but i am about to drop out of college, i've never worked before, and i can't drive. they don't understand that i'm not exactly doing the best mentally, they've always thought of me as lazy. because of this they'll want me to get my shit together, but i genuinely don't feel like i can.

i guess my question is whether or not i should show them that i am not well. i don't think a shrink would have anything worthwhile to offer me, but i think going though all the bullshit get better type stuff would be infinitely better than continuing on day to day ready to fucking blow my brains out. i'm not exactly sure how i would muster up the courage/design a situation to show them i am currently not fit to live a "normal" life, and, beyond that, i don't know if they would believe me or care. right before my parents completely gave up on my i told my mom that i wanted to die and that i think seeing someone would be good for me, which was pretty much the only insight i gave her into how i was feeling. she told me to take a shower and "just cheer up."

it's feels like a bit of a miracle that i haven't had a serious break down or anything like that, but i don't think i can keep existing this way.

does your family know how you feel? do they accept it?

 No.3088

I can't really give much exact advice, because health service costs (or lack of) change per country, people's parents are different, etc.

Assuming it's not pointlessly expensive, I'd recommend going to your doctor alone and explaining things to them. In this country, at least, they may be able to refer you to a psychologist/psychiatrist (can be free, at least over here). They may not necessarily be much help, and I'd heavily recommend against starting on any medications unless you cannot even begin to understand and remove what's causing you problems, but doing such and then informing your parents would, in many situations I believe, be enough to make them begin to realize how serious you are about this. From there, you could begin (again, depending on country) to get into a welfare system for the time being.

I was in a pretty similar situation when I dropped out of university. The thing I went there to learn ended up not being something I was really interested in enough to go through several more years of study, tests and a heavily flawed education system. So I just stopped going to classes and wandered around the campus instead, then eventually dropped out. It all went a lot easier than you'd think. From there, if you mend things with family (you don't have to be doing this for them or anything, it's quite fine to see it as for your own peace and comfortable living conditions) and take a break from stressful life, you'll gradually become more open to doing things and may find something you'd be happy to study or do for a job. That is, on the condition that you keep an open mind, and don't develop aversions to those things, which it seems many of the longer-term NEETs tend to. Basically, enjoy the NEETlife, but don't feel anger, resentment or depression for the "outside" world. That was what held me back for the longest. If that sounds or becomes something that's difficult for you to do, meditate every day. I'd be happy to give advice on this, if you'd like. It's easily the single most effective path towards an open mind, willpower, control of your emotions, and the complete destruction of suffering. I learned that a breakdown, if handled well, is a chance to purge what you've learned is harmful for you and completely start over.

Finding a community of online friends can be helpful to some, but finding satisfaction in solitude is also helpful and without the clinging and trust and other emotional risks that come from depending oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.2927[Reply]

If you have add or are impulsive and you feel that is holding you back from starting to look for a job, take medication. (I took Concerta personally)

Improve yourself. YOUR GOAL AS A NEET IS TO MAKE YOUR BODY AS HEALTHY LOOKING AS POSSIBLE. The point is that self betterment improves confidence and lessens your social anxiety lessens. Trust what I say.

Keep your skin clean by exfoliating (I use baking soda and water) and then moisturize everyday TWICE.

If you are overweight, eat less (no high calorie foods). Exercise focusing on high repetitions and drink a lot of water to fill your stomach.


If you are underweight and a girl, you are in the clear, it's a good thing. (As long as it isn't anorexia or something, I personally don't have much help for that)

If you are underweight and a guy, like myself, drink whole milk (half a gallon a day, or a full gallon if you are serious about gaining weight) for a couple months on top of your existing diet. And 2-3 full meals a day. I personally recommend getting a big bag of white rice and stock up on chicken breasts. Do pushups and squats everyday and get into lifting.

I focuse here on nutrition because that is that core of your mental health and physical health. It will makes you think better and look healthier. Combine this with exercise and your social anxiety problems will fade away as you notice improvements. Soon you will put your struggles behind you and be laughing as your confidence starts a positive feedback loop.

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 No.3055

>>3053
>The problem was anon having such a big problem other people’s idea of attractiveness.

Which is why I pointed out his lack of tact. He could have easily just left it at, "I prefer thicc gurls" and been respectful but why really entertain someone who doesn't actually other's ideas of attractiveness.

 No.3056

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>Everybody having an argument against a frogposter
Even if you are underweight and considered "attractive", that's not healthy nor healthy looking, you'll look like a gnome.

Now let's go back to talking about how people are judged by their genitals.

 No.3072

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the level of ignorance in this thread is staggering

 No.3073

>>3072
Enlighten us, Sensei.

 No.3074

>>3072
Care to elaborate?



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 No.971[Reply]

Hey /n/, gotta wonder has anything good happened to y'all lately? Could be as minor as remembering a funny event from a manga or something huge. I'm curious.
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 No.1105

>>1103
I just emailed you because I cant figure out which one is you.

 No.1109

>>1105
Sent request on skype.

 No.3009

my dog died this morning

 No.3018

>>3009
…and that's a positive thing?

 No.3065

In order to keep my family closer together, I've recently started to enforce a rule that prohibits computers in the bedroom and started to make a family computer room where everyone has their computers at.

I've already moved one of my computers over and so has two other family members. All I know is that kids shouldn't have such unrestricted access to computers (especially the internet) and even adults shouldn't be locked up in their rooms. That much I know I can work on for my own kids if I have them.

Plus my family IT work is massively simplified. I might even just rewire my cables so I can move the router and modem closer to the computer room.



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