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I have been training my body in preparation for the upcoming war, but taking into account the fact that there is drone warfare now, cyber warfare, psychological warfare, spiritual warfare, chemical warfare and biological warfare, i have found my feeble efforts to train my body a little bit lacking, yet i'm slowly getting used to every single one of these attacks, i'm now continuing to push on my current objective, all the while embracing my former self for allowing myself to waste so much time, also, it seems the rift between me and women is getting bigger as well.
I have been training my body in preparation for the upcoming war, but taking into account the fact that there is drone warfare now, cyber warfare, psychological warfare, spiritual warfare, chemical warfare and biological warfare, i have found my feeble efforts to train my body a little bit lacking, yet i'm slowly getting used to every single one of these attacks, i'm now continuing to push on my current objective, all the while embracing my former self for allowing myself to waste so much time, also, it seems the rift between me and women is getting bigger as well.
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I feel so miserable every time I am not playing games or watching movies/anime/etc. or otherwise escaping into my hobbies. I can't stand the real world. There is nothing to look forward to and I am tired of good things only coming to me if I set out and claim them on my own. None of this work feels worth it. All my effort is wasted. I hate coming home everyday from my job, which I loathe, to nothing being done. No love at home. The dishes are piled up, the trash is overflowing, nobody's cleaned the litterbox, there's nothing to eat. Just coming home from work to more work. Nobody to share anything I enjoy with. No one to help me out or encourage me or lighten the burden and make things bearable. I'm just alone always. Feels like everything just gets worse and worse. I can hardly stand other people. I wish I could. My life feels so pointless. I feel so bitter and disenchanted constantly. I have no real reason to. I have it easier than so many other people. Yet I hate it. I'm sorry for this stupid, whiny post.
I feel so miserable every time I am not playing games or watching movies/anime/etc. or otherwise escaping into my hobbies. I can't stand the real world. There is nothing to look forward to and I am tired of good things only coming to me if I set out and claim them on my own. None of this work feels worth it. All my effort is wasted. I hate coming home everyday from my job, which I loathe, to nothing being done. No love at home. The dishes are piled up, the trash is overflowing, nobody's cleaned the litterbox, there's nothing to eat. Just coming home from work to more work. Nobody to share anything I enjoy with. No one to help me out or encourage me or lighten the burden and make things bearable. I'm just alone always. Feels like everything just gets worse and worse. I can hardly stand other people. I wish I could. My life feels so pointless. I feel so bitter and disenchanted constantly. I have no real reason to. I have it easier than so many other people. Yet I hate it. I'm sorry for this stupid, whiny post.
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I know what I should do, I should get on a train and disappear into the world. But I don't have the cruelty to do that to them and I'll never muster it just by sitting here thinking.
Let's you and me learn what it's like to ride a train alone.
Parents who don't want you to be independent
Who else is in this situation? Or maybe you used to be, but you got out? I'd really like your story if you did. This is the recovery board so let's help each other and formulate escape plans. If you like you can use this thread to share lessons/tutorials our parents didn't teach us too.I know what I should do, I should get on a train and disappear into the world. But I don't have the cruelty to do that to them and I'll never muster it just by sitting here thinking.
Let's you and me learn what it's like to ride a train alone.
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I have a few friends and people I'm close to from those days (10 years ago now) who have not changed or even refuse to change, and it's just frustrating? Like, you did all this work to pull yourself up and out of that situation and they begin to treat you with resentment for doing that while they couldn't and you in turn start to resent them for not putting in the same effort you did?
Dealing with NEETs as an ex-NEET
Does anyone else who escaped being a NEET struggle to deal with NEETs now?I have a few friends and people I'm close to from those days (10 years ago now) who have not changed or even refuse to change, and it's just frustrating? Like, you did all this work to pull yourself up and out of that situation and they begin to treat you with resentment for doing that while they couldn't and you in turn start to resent them for not putting in the same effort you did?
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Ex-NEET/Hiki general thread, how long has it been since you got out of it? What are you working on right now? Do you feel like going back to that life sometimes?
I got a job and started going outside 6 years ago, after 2 years of being isolated completely, sometimes I feel tempted of just staying at home playing videogames all day, or to stay in bed doing absolutely nothing, I am still depressed, recently something bad happened, and I felt the need of going back to those habits, close my social media and be a full time anon again.
An important part of my recovery was the people around me, and volunteering at hospitals and hostels for the bed, working still feels kind of weird though.
Now I work as a programmer and web designer, not the best job for someone like me, but it's what I learned to do.
It's hard, but like an anon told me here, if I got out of that mentality once, I can do it again, and so can you.
Ex-NEET/Hiki general thread, how long has it been since you got out of it? What are you working on right now? Do you feel like going back to that life sometimes?
I got a job and started going outside 6 years ago, after 2 years of being isolated completely, sometimes I feel tempted of just staying at home playing videogames all day, or to stay in bed doing absolutely nothing, I am still depressed, recently something bad happened, and I felt the need of going back to those habits, close my social media and be a full time anon again.
An important part of my recovery was the people around me, and volunteering at hospitals and hostels for the bed, working still feels kind of weird though.
Now I work as a programmer and web designer, not the best job for someone like me, but it's what I learned to do.
It's hard, but like an anon told me here, if I got out of that mentality once, I can do it again, and so can you.
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I spent a few months putting together the best applications I could, but made the mistake of aiming too high and only applying for a few difficult to get in to universities. So far I've heard back from 2 of the places I applied, both were rejections, and I'm not feeling too confident about the other 3.
Right now I'm panicking, because it's become abundantly clear that I've wasted the last 8 months and several hundred dollars doing basically nothing. I told myself I'd get an article written but I've been completely unable to get anything done because of all the uncertainty.
In a last-ditch effort, I'm putting together a PhD application to send to places that are still accepting applicants and might be able to supervise it. But, again, I'm not too hopeful about this.
I really do not know what to do if this doesn't pan out. I can't find any jobs that I'm not either over or under qualified for.
Someone suggested I become an assistant language teacher, but I am not comfortable at all with living alone somewhere where I don't speak the language after being a recluse for over a year.
Aimed too high and wasted 8 months
Since I graduated from University in June I've been planning on going back to do a Master's or a PhD. For what it's worth, I graduated with (I think) the highest grade of my year from a pretty bad university, but I also did a community-related EC and was the recipient of a research scholarship in my second year.I spent a few months putting together the best applications I could, but made the mistake of aiming too high and only applying for a few difficult to get in to universities. So far I've heard back from 2 of the places I applied, both were rejections, and I'm not feeling too confident about the other 3.
Right now I'm panicking, because it's become abundantly clear that I've wasted the last 8 months and several hundred dollars doing basically nothing. I told myself I'd get an article written but I've been completely unable to get anything done because of all the uncertainty.
In a last-ditch effort, I'm putting together a PhD application to send to places that are still accepting applicants and might be able to supervise it. But, again, I'm not too hopeful about this.
I really do not know what to do if this doesn't pan out. I can't find any jobs that I'm not either over or under qualified for.
Someone suggested I become an assistant language teacher, but I am not comfortable at all with living alone somewhere where I don't speak the language after being a recluse for over a year.
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Did anyone else escape NEET life and now just finds it even more lonely and isolating? I honestly haven't posted here or on any other chans in years. After nearly decade of being a NEET from 16 to 24, I did manage to get my life together. I have a job and am in a good university working towards my PHD, I'm what people would consider a "success" in that regards but its just lonely.
I can't relate to normal people, they don't have the same shared experience of growing up a NEET and being fucked in the head for so long. I can't make any connection with these people that has any meaning beyond the superficial. Meanwhile internet culture has completely left me behind and is weird and foreign to me, and honestly not interested in getting involved in most of whatever people are angry about.
I miss those days of feeling connected to others through the screen. At least I had others who understood back then.
Did anyone else escape NEET life and now just finds it even more lonely and isolating? I honestly haven't posted here or on any other chans in years. After nearly decade of being a NEET from 16 to 24, I did manage to get my life together. I have a job and am in a good university working towards my PHD, I'm what people would consider a "success" in that regards but its just lonely.
I can't relate to normal people, they don't have the same shared experience of growing up a NEET and being fucked in the head for so long. I can't make any connection with these people that has any meaning beyond the superficial. Meanwhile internet culture has completely left me behind and is weird and foreign to me, and honestly not interested in getting involved in most of whatever people are angry about.
I miss those days of feeling connected to others through the screen. At least I had others who understood back then.
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i feel pretty fortunate to end up working with a bunch of people who are also really introverted, some still living at home. i would not be surprised if some of them had spent some time as a NEET during or after covid.
i know that part of the reason i never feel fully accepted by others is because i come off as totally unapproachable. i don't know how to change this. without this false protective shell i think i'd feel too vulnerable to even get out of bed every day. has anyone been able to break through this, and feel themselves around others?
working men
i fixed two computers at work today. it's something i would have only known how to fix because i spent so much time staying inside and toying with random settings on my computer for most of my life. what normie would have deduced that the hardware acceleration was turned off for the web browser?i feel pretty fortunate to end up working with a bunch of people who are also really introverted, some still living at home. i would not be surprised if some of them had spent some time as a NEET during or after covid.
i know that part of the reason i never feel fully accepted by others is because i come off as totally unapproachable. i don't know how to change this. without this false protective shell i think i'd feel too vulnerable to even get out of bed every day. has anyone been able to break through this, and feel themselves around others?
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They are very effective in people with ruminating anxiety and neurotic fixations, not people with anhedonia from losing their job or partner or whatever. The success rate vs. placebo is like 20% in this population compared to like 3% for everyone else, what works for the majority is something that stimulates glutamate receptors a la ketamine
The reason they're the first line treatment for everyone is because rich people are neurotic and they were most likely to get them when they came out
Observations on depression treatments
I think it's deeply ironic that the kind of person who overanalyses things and is less likely to take SSRIs because of reported inefficacy and withdrawal symptoms is the exact kind of person who should be taking SSRIsThey are very effective in people with ruminating anxiety and neurotic fixations, not people with anhedonia from losing their job or partner or whatever. The success rate vs. placebo is like 20% in this population compared to like 3% for everyone else, what works for the majority is something that stimulates glutamate receptors a la ketamine
The reason they're the first line treatment for everyone is because rich people are neurotic and they were most likely to get them when they came out
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Can you share some positive improvements that have happened in your life recently? Personally I am working on getting more professional help for my issues and it's working out well. I'd love to hear some positivity of you people.
A little thread / sharing
Hello lovely people, I just wanted to make this thread to remind you that it's all going to be OK.Can you share some positive improvements that have happened in your life recently? Personally I am working on getting more professional help for my issues and it's working out well. I'd love to hear some positivity of you people.
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Why does everyone want a job and social life in the city you live? Is your home not a trap for the greater world or a greater prison??
I enjoy aspects of the city but as someone who has had many jobs, relationships, and social groups, successfully and then bored of them, or sabotaged for some sense of freedom that I time and time again find blocked in…. I want to be free of the very world I logically hide from in the only domain of autonomy available to me…
Are YOU seeking respite from a world you know is hostile to you, or are you just learning what it is to live?? I know many here are reentering the world rather than just starting but I am curious about this….
Honest
Why does everyone want a job and social life in the city you live? Is your home not a trap for the greater world or a greater prison??
I enjoy aspects of the city but as someone who has had many jobs, relationships, and social groups, successfully and then bored of them, or sabotaged for some sense of freedom that I time and time again find blocked in…. I want to be free of the very world I logically hide from in the only domain of autonomy available to me…
Are YOU seeking respite from a world you know is hostile to you, or are you just learning what it is to live?? I know many here are reentering the world rather than just starting but I am curious about this….
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I'm a 20 year old compsci major at a good university. I did my first year at community college and transferred to the university this year. I'm on winter break right now, and I go back to school tomorrow.
I know that there's a lot for me to be grateful for but I'm still unhappy and have been ever since leaving high school, and honestly before then too. It feels like despite having loving parents and despite never having any real traumas I'm still such a weak and ungrateful person. Reading the struggles on this board and /neet/ kind of make me realize how lucky I am in terms of finances and health. But realizing that doesn't really provoke any sort of true gratefulness or relief in me.
In fact, I've been thinking that if God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers then I must have such a weak and ugly soul to have the abundances I do and still hate my life this much, and that because of the weakness and ugliness of my soul I'm eventually destined for hell. I don't know if any christanons can relate. I think about God a lot, read the Bible, and consider myself Christian but not saved yet.
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2025 college anxieties and general gay complaining
Hey everybody, I hope you all had happy holidays. Remembered this board while playing through .flow again. I've never been a NEET but I sorta became one during my first semester of college and I think prolonged NEETdom may be in my future if nothing changes.I'm a 20 year old compsci major at a good university. I did my first year at community college and transferred to the university this year. I'm on winter break right now, and I go back to school tomorrow.
I know that there's a lot for me to be grateful for but I'm still unhappy and have been ever since leaving high school, and honestly before then too. It feels like despite having loving parents and despite never having any real traumas I'm still such a weak and ungrateful person. Reading the struggles on this board and /neet/ kind of make me realize how lucky I am in terms of finances and health. But realizing that doesn't really provoke any sort of true gratefulness or relief in me.
In fact, I've been thinking that if God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers then I must have such a weak and ugly soul to have the abundances I do and still hate my life this much, and that because of the weakness and ugliness of my soul I'm eventually destined for hell. I don't know if any christanons can relate. I think about God a lot, read the Bible, and consider myself Christian but not saved yet.
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jobs are scary
happy new year /rec/, ive been a depressed neet for almost a year and its finally caught up with me. not only am i out of savings but my dad lost his job so now i have to cut my bed rotting time short and "lock in". im looking for advice on how to do interviews and pretty much how to conduct myself like a human being. tips on how to get over phone anxiety would be greatly appriciated as well considering im likely working as a receptionist
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>you're the only one here
it's 2024 already
>you're the only one here
it's 2024 already
R: 7 / I: 3
Never went to college; always wanted to go for animation or illustration.
No sleeping
and if I do there's nightmares, and i try blocking them out..but it's also making it hard to find work. I have lost interest in a lot of things in life lately too.Never went to college; always wanted to go for animation or illustration.
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but in this whole time i still very rarely was able to leave the house by myself. i always need someone of trust with me. i don't even go to the supermarket. i don't go to the bakery in front of my house if i'm alone.
but despite getting better, i'm falling back into hikkikomori lately. now i refuse to go out even if there's someone with me. even if i use uber. even though i have means of self defense. i won't even stand on the gate. i can't. i don't leave the house and barely leave my room. psychosis is coming back.
how do i actually recover? i feel like i was just forcing myself and pretending to be better and that has backfired now. this has started ten years ago, and i'm young. ten years is a considerable portion of my lifetime
can i ever leave my house without anxieties?
i am an ex-hikki. i am still unemployed but i am looking for a job. i have recovered immensely after years of reclusion. now i finally go out often, socialize, i even go to parties.but in this whole time i still very rarely was able to leave the house by myself. i always need someone of trust with me. i don't even go to the supermarket. i don't go to the bakery in front of my house if i'm alone.
but despite getting better, i'm falling back into hikkikomori lately. now i refuse to go out even if there's someone with me. even if i use uber. even though i have means of self defense. i won't even stand on the gate. i can't. i don't leave the house and barely leave my room. psychosis is coming back.
how do i actually recover? i feel like i was just forcing myself and pretending to be better and that has backfired now. this has started ten years ago, and i'm young. ten years is a considerable portion of my lifetime
R: 4 / I: 1
Progress is slow and escaping is hell
I got a job working at McDonald's about 2 months ago, it was the first place to accept me. Majority of the people I work with are highschoolers and the few that aren't seem to have their own clique/ingroup at work, it also doesn't help that I'm autistic. I'm pretty sure my roster manager hates me, I barely work any hours and I don't get paid that much. I'd like to be able to afford to move and save up for some luxuries that I don't have (PC namely) but I get paid breadcrumbs. Why is everything so hard? I just escaped being a neet fulltime to be a neet mostly fulltime and get reminded how autistic and lonely I am at work.
R: 67 / I: 48
For five years I've been slowly decaying: I've lost my health, dropped University, twice, and my relationships with my family is in shatters. Also what bothers me is that people I knew (I don't have any contacts left) now have good jobs, some of them their own families, while I still simply just run away from all problems I encounter.
I tried to do something with it so many times, but it never really worked out. I'm not sure whether anything can be done now, but I can try one more time.
To change the pace I will go to a local library tomorrow, so I can be closer to other people, will spend some time learning (or doing) something actually useful and will try to build up courage to make up with my family.
For five years I've been slowly decaying: I've lost my health, dropped University, twice, and my relationships with my family is in shatters. Also what bothers me is that people I knew (I don't have any contacts left) now have good jobs, some of them their own families, while I still simply just run away from all problems I encounter.
I tried to do something with it so many times, but it never really worked out. I'm not sure whether anything can be done now, but I can try one more time.
To change the pace I will go to a local library tomorrow, so I can be closer to other people, will spend some time learning (or doing) something actually useful and will try to build up courage to make up with my family.
R: 55 / I: 16
Just got a job today. I'm probably going to quit or get fired again, but, let's see how this goes
I will try to keep this thread up as a "journal" in hopes of helping or motivation another anon to do as I did today
Just got a job today. I'm probably going to quit or get fired again, but, let's see how this goes
I will try to keep this thread up as a "journal" in hopes of helping or motivation another anon to do as I did today
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My issue is is that I use the computer too much, and I've been using it for 10+ hours a day nearly every day for the past 6 years. I've been a NEET and a hikki for most of that time, and I really really hate that I do that. I feel like I've not grown much as a person, and I feel as though I've become boring and hollow and skill-less as a direct result of my overuse of the internet/computer. I rarely do anything I can feel proud of, and the anxiety of having wasted my life permeates every waking second. I have terrible time management skills. Currently, I'm doing a course thats the equivalent of highschool in my country as I dropped out after completing year 10 due to issues around social anxiety and depression. I'm only just barely managing to pass because I wait until the last second to do anything, and I'm terrified I've permanently fucked my brain through habitual overuse of the computer. I'm currently 21. I'm also scared I'll never be able to learn the social skills needed to make close friends, which is absolutely terrifying, as my main motivation for getting out of neet-dom the past few years has been deep loneliness.
I'm sorry for throwing a pity-party, I really want to be proud of myself and turn myself into someone I can be happy being. I'd really love to hear from someone else who has dealt with a similar-ish issue (and hopefully solved it!), I've been feeling a lot of self doubt and fear recently, and I'd love to find someone to relate to. If this post is too self centered and just shitting up the board, feel free to delete it.
Another question for people who've got hobbies: what might be a good one with a low skill ceiling to take up for someone who freaks out over being bad at everything? I've heard a hobby is a really good way to kickstart self esteem.
fear of never becoming valuable
I'm a bit embarrassed to make this post, but I've been lurking for a long time and was hoping to hear from other people who have had the same issue, or know how to get out of it and stuff.My issue is is that I use the computer too much, and I've been using it for 10+ hours a day nearly every day for the past 6 years. I've been a NEET and a hikki for most of that time, and I really really hate that I do that. I feel like I've not grown much as a person, and I feel as though I've become boring and hollow and skill-less as a direct result of my overuse of the internet/computer. I rarely do anything I can feel proud of, and the anxiety of having wasted my life permeates every waking second. I have terrible time management skills. Currently, I'm doing a course thats the equivalent of highschool in my country as I dropped out after completing year 10 due to issues around social anxiety and depression. I'm only just barely managing to pass because I wait until the last second to do anything, and I'm terrified I've permanently fucked my brain through habitual overuse of the computer. I'm currently 21. I'm also scared I'll never be able to learn the social skills needed to make close friends, which is absolutely terrifying, as my main motivation for getting out of neet-dom the past few years has been deep loneliness.
I'm sorry for throwing a pity-party, I really want to be proud of myself and turn myself into someone I can be happy being. I'd really love to hear from someone else who has dealt with a similar-ish issue (and hopefully solved it!), I've been feeling a lot of self doubt and fear recently, and I'd love to find someone to relate to. If this post is too self centered and just shitting up the board, feel free to delete it.
Another question for people who've got hobbies: what might be a good one with a low skill ceiling to take up for someone who freaks out over being bad at everything? I've heard a hobby is a really good way to kickstart self esteem.
R: 10 / I: 3
if you go to drug/alcohol rehab you can transition to 3.1 housing which is free for six months and they'll help you get a job. it's all covered under medicaid, you don't need any income to do this, in fact no income is better. then after that you can go to a halfway house where rent is like less than $200 a month and they'll keep providing you with transportation to work n shit. in a year of doing this you can easily save up 20 grand since your expenses will be almost nonexistent. think about how much of a difference that money would make to you. all you gotta do is pretend to be an addict (and most of you probably wouldn't even be pretending)
if you got nothing better going for you, you should consider it. some places will even send a guy to pick you up from your house and take you there if you don't have a car
if you go to drug/alcohol rehab you can transition to 3.1 housing which is free for six months and they'll help you get a job. it's all covered under medicaid, you don't need any income to do this, in fact no income is better. then after that you can go to a halfway house where rent is like less than $200 a month and they'll keep providing you with transportation to work n shit. in a year of doing this you can easily save up 20 grand since your expenses will be almost nonexistent. think about how much of a difference that money would make to you. all you gotta do is pretend to be an addict (and most of you probably wouldn't even be pretending)
if you got nothing better going for you, you should consider it. some places will even send a guy to pick you up from your house and take you there if you don't have a car
R: 1 / I: 1
>start lifting
>quit discord
>get an intership
>get hired
>drop out of college
>since I'm no longer going to college I have more free time
>also I have money
>lose my v-card
>life has never been better
I'm still a shitty person but I don't care, I just want to enjoy life while I can
>start lifting
>quit discord
>get an intership
>get hired
>drop out of college
>since I'm no longer going to college I have more free time
>also I have money
>lose my v-card
>life has never been better
I'm still a shitty person but I don't care, I just want to enjoy life while I can
R: 3 / I: 3
so i'd like to ask, what are some tips/tricks/methods/whatever you find useful that helps you get things done despite having executive dysfunction?
ways of dealing with executive dysfunction?
i read through the recent thread about getting diagnosed and it resonated with me a lot, since i am unmedicated (talking to therapist, we both agree something is wrong with my brain) and currently just a complete failure in college due to my executive dysfunction. just bombed the first test of the course, and it dawned on me that staying like this is not sustainable in the slightest (not that i was ever under the impression it was), so i want to change this while i am still just starting out, before it's too late. i have tried sheer-willpower-ing and it has not worked well at all, my brain is shockingly easy to distract.so i'd like to ask, what are some tips/tricks/methods/whatever you find useful that helps you get things done despite having executive dysfunction?
R: 4 / I: 0
my parents started making me pay rent a few months ago and since august my government income (which was around $400) has dropped down to $68 a month, absolutely nowhere near enough to pay rent.
she told me if i wanted to stay in the house i had to get a job. now i'm a cleaner at my old high school which is so embarrassing. and i feel like the kids at school stare at me and it's been pulling at my mental health
i stay up all night and play video games so i always sleep late. my shift starts at 3pm and ends at 6pm. by the time i get home it's already too late for me to want to eat, and since i've started working this has become a daily thing, where i only eat dinner on the weekends because i'm not away working
seriously want to quit this job and go back to the way i was living before, but i know it's not a healthy alternative at all… what do i do?
starting to regretting recovery
19 years old and i recently ditched the whole neet lifestyle and got myself a job. genuinely sucks so much and i thought it would change a lot for me but if anything it ruined my life.my parents started making me pay rent a few months ago and since august my government income (which was around $400) has dropped down to $68 a month, absolutely nowhere near enough to pay rent.
she told me if i wanted to stay in the house i had to get a job. now i'm a cleaner at my old high school which is so embarrassing. and i feel like the kids at school stare at me and it's been pulling at my mental health
i stay up all night and play video games so i always sleep late. my shift starts at 3pm and ends at 6pm. by the time i get home it's already too late for me to want to eat, and since i've started working this has become a daily thing, where i only eat dinner on the weekends because i'm not away working
seriously want to quit this job and go back to the way i was living before, but i know it's not a healthy alternative at all… what do i do?
R: 10 / I: 6
Every Hikki is secretly a cocoon. Some of our cocoons are bright yet brooding and just waiting to pop! Others are dark and gristled without much life left in them. Every cocoon can grow if left in peace long enough, though many are pushed and prodded in all the wrong ways and may never get the chance. I hope your cocoon pops uboaling, it's time to wake up if you can.
Every Hikki is secretly a cocoon. Some of our cocoons are bright yet brooding and just waiting to pop! Others are dark and gristled without much life left in them. Every cocoon can grow if left in peace long enough, though many are pushed and prodded in all the wrong ways and may never get the chance. I hope your cocoon pops uboaling, it's time to wake up if you can.
R: 4 / I: 2
trying to do something with my life
i dropped out of highschool due to extreme stress.. im now finally trying to get my ged but i keep procrastinating making calls. how do i get motivation? im not the best at math and i know its going to be a dreadful process
R: 2 / I: 0
The only true motivation for a NEET regarding his condition is to make him aware of the NEET-Homeless pipeline, if you are a NEET, have a NEET friend and make him aware of the extremely real possibility of him ending up in some walkway begging for scraps of food once his enablers (parents) die off or once he stops receiving money from the government, then you will end up with someone that will either kill himself or try everything in his power to change his situation in order to not end that way, sadly defeating the NEET ways is harder than you think, so even if you manage to leave NEET vices like anime or tranny porn behind you will still be rejected from a lot of places due to certain social quirks that you retain from your NEET days.
The only true motivation for a NEET regarding his condition is to make him aware of the NEET-Homeless pipeline, if you are a NEET, have a NEET friend and make him aware of the extremely real possibility of him ending up in some walkway begging for scraps of food once his enablers (parents) die off or once he stops receiving money from the government, then you will end up with someone that will either kill himself or try everything in his power to change his situation in order to not end that way, sadly defeating the NEET ways is harder than you think, so even if you manage to leave NEET vices like anime or tranny porn behind you will still be rejected from a lot of places due to certain social quirks that you retain from your NEET days.
R: 21 / I: 12
Getting Diagnosed
I thought it would be good to have a general thread about this. People who have diagnoses, how did you get them and how has it helped/hurt you? People who are undiagnosed and want to be (assuming you are fucked in the head), why and what's stopping you?
R: 5 / I: 3
But, I also can’t stay here, because each day I remember more and more how this household has ruined me mentally. I need to be out and I need to be somewhere safe. My abuser has done horrible horrible things to us and around us and I can’t stand it anymore. There’s only so much ‘look at the computer and hope the paranoia doesn’t take you’ I can do before I lose it.
I don’t know, I think I just needed a rant. Anyone else struggling with this kind of change? Needing to get out but your disabilities and Hikki mentality forcing you to try to stick to routine to be safe? I’ve not been a full hikki in a few years but old habits die so so so hard. I think I need to know if and how I can cope with moving out of something that defined my life so strongly. It’s been a rough few months haha
Getting out
Currently undergoing possibly the biggest change of my life. I’m moving out of my current house soon without my family, and I’m moving in with a different relative. I know it’s going to be much better for me, quieter, more peaceful, in a better area and I’ll have more to myself. Plus, I’ll be getting away from who is essentially an abuser. However, my autism makes it so I’m stuck in this obligation to stay in this home, that everything will go Haywire if I leave and things need to be as they are or I don’t know, I fucking die of autism or something. That, with my added on tensions and habits of being half a hikki where I don’t leave my room much, don’t talk to my family and stay in my room online so I can ignore the fact that I’m living with someone I despise, means it’s INCREDIBLY hard to break out of the ‘if I leave this structure I fucking die’ mentality.But, I also can’t stay here, because each day I remember more and more how this household has ruined me mentally. I need to be out and I need to be somewhere safe. My abuser has done horrible horrible things to us and around us and I can’t stand it anymore. There’s only so much ‘look at the computer and hope the paranoia doesn’t take you’ I can do before I lose it.
I don’t know, I think I just needed a rant. Anyone else struggling with this kind of change? Needing to get out but your disabilities and Hikki mentality forcing you to try to stick to routine to be safe? I’ve not been a full hikki in a few years but old habits die so so so hard. I think I need to know if and how I can cope with moving out of something that defined my life so strongly. It’s been a rough few months haha
R: 1 / I: 1
I have decided on my path. Thank you internet. Thank you to everyone who helped guide me and thank you to those who showed me the error of my ways.
I deeply apologize for any actions caused untoward due to my carelessness and stupidity.
I have decided on my path. Thank you internet. Thank you to everyone who helped guide me and thank you to those who showed me the error of my ways.
I deeply apologize for any actions caused untoward due to my carelessness and stupidity.
R: 17 / I: 5
Executive dysfunction
Does anyone have issues with executive function? Like not being able to remember stuff, spacing out, being generally unable to get stuff done, poor hygiene, inability to focus on stuff but at the same time often hyper focusing on a single thing to the point of spacing out and being unable to ignore everything else?
R: 5 / I: 2
Is this it?
What kind of goals do normal people have? A few months into a part-time job and nothing feels fundamentally different from NEETdom. I don't know what I'm supposed to be toiling over.
R: 4 / I: 2
everyone around me (which admittedly aren't many) tells me that I've "come so far" and that maybe I "just need to give [myself] time" and I know I have made enormous progress in some areas but I feel like I'm avoiding the areas that will involve the most interaction with other people. in my isolation I've lost what social skills I previously had and the steps involved in obtaining the human connection that I so desperately want feels insurmountably unpleasant in comparison to passing my time alone in my shitty apartment…
I'm sorry if this was more of a rant than a question. I'm just feeling incredibly hopeless at the moment
progress and loneliness
do y'all ever have trouble discerning if you are actually making progress towards being the person you want to be or if you're just spinning your wheels doing things that are good/helpful but avoiding the truely nessecary steps you need to take to change your life?everyone around me (which admittedly aren't many) tells me that I've "come so far" and that maybe I "just need to give [myself] time" and I know I have made enormous progress in some areas but I feel like I'm avoiding the areas that will involve the most interaction with other people. in my isolation I've lost what social skills I previously had and the steps involved in obtaining the human connection that I so desperately want feels insurmountably unpleasant in comparison to passing my time alone in my shitty apartment…
I'm sorry if this was more of a rant than a question. I'm just feeling incredibly hopeless at the moment
R: 0 / I: 0
officially diagnosed with c-ptsd after a whole teenhood of misdiagnosis, wrong meds and unalive planned attempts failed because if i did the religious child adoption shelter would've closed down after my death and i'd mess up innocent kids' lives even more after being saved too like me from worse fates. a hikk for years, now finding myself out there, barely adulting, smiling through the emptiness and trying to think positively. had some shitty jobs, i don't trust easily, quit professional school because of younger kids (like 3-4 years older) bullying me again like in high school. my grades dropped, my depression worsened. i feel useless as people my age i know ever since childhood just finished uni and are having "real" jobs. i feel so much envy for their easier lives. but i cheer them up too. despite my inferiority complex and thinking i will never be good enough despite, according to others, being "so kind", "resilient", "stronger than anyone". that doesn't save oneself. from oneself and their environments.
i decided i want to use my shit life to help others who will go through the same things as me in this shit of a world. if you want a reason to keep going on or avoid the hikk life, it's the only valid reason that gives meaning to my meaningless life. people need doctors and psychologists who can truly relate, not somebody who's there nodding and misdiagnosing you because they truly don't care. i do care because i've walked hell, too.
i will be real honest here. study online. this is the only way for many of us to get some quality education. especially if you're shy or people has a tendency to prey on your kindness. grades over people, you don't need your classmates. you only need yourself and some saved up money.
uboachan gives me so much nostalgia i end up always coming back to it, somehow. i hope this reaches someone. i know many ppl here are also struggling. you don't know who i am, but i'm proud you're still here.
officially diagnosed with c-ptsd after a whole teenhood of misdiagnosis, wrong meds and unalive planned attempts failed because if i did the religious child adoption shelter would've closed down after my death and i'd mess up innocent kids' lives even more after being saved too like me from worse fates. a hikk for years, now finding myself out there, barely adulting, smiling through the emptiness and trying to think positively. had some shitty jobs, i don't trust easily, quit professional school because of younger kids (like 3-4 years older) bullying me again like in high school. my grades dropped, my depression worsened. i feel useless as people my age i know ever since childhood just finished uni and are having "real" jobs. i feel so much envy for their easier lives. but i cheer them up too. despite my inferiority complex and thinking i will never be good enough despite, according to others, being "so kind", "resilient", "stronger than anyone". that doesn't save oneself. from oneself and their environments.
i decided i want to use my shit life to help others who will go through the same things as me in this shit of a world. if you want a reason to keep going on or avoid the hikk life, it's the only valid reason that gives meaning to my meaningless life. people need doctors and psychologists who can truly relate, not somebody who's there nodding and misdiagnosing you because they truly don't care. i do care because i've walked hell, too.
i will be real honest here. study online. this is the only way for many of us to get some quality education. especially if you're shy or people has a tendency to prey on your kindness. grades over people, you don't need your classmates. you only need yourself and some saved up money.
uboachan gives me so much nostalgia i end up always coming back to it, somehow. i hope this reaches someone. i know many ppl here are also struggling. you don't know who i am, but i'm proud you're still here.
R: 4 / I: 0
What should I do?
I dropped out of school at 14. I started working late last year while 18. I live in the UK. What should I do? If I take GCSE's and A-Levels, I'll be 22 before I even start University. Is this worth it? Will it even be valuable then? There's nothing in particular I want to do, I just want to make money. I don't have any irl friends and my online connections are poor. What should I start working on now? I have lots of time, and I'm building up motivation. The past week I've immediately finished all the chores I used to put off until the end of the day and been left wondering what I should even do with the rest of my time. Please help me to find something to do. I want it to be important or profitable.
R: 4 / I: 2
Does anyone else feel restless/unable to relax/constantly stressed out since getting a job? It comes and goes but for the past few months it's noticeably worse. I find myself not being able to enjoy or "lose myself" in things very much. I'm always walking around just pacing, thinking - hard to focus on one thing at a time. I feel like I just can't relax even on my days off, the only exception being when I take a few days or a week off right after a weekend or something. I can only really relax when there's like 4-5 solid days between now and when I have to work next.
My job is fairly physical (I walk about 15k steps per day, lift 20-50lbs stuff occasionally, etc) and there's a lot of social interaction with coworkers so at the end of a workday I just crash and lay down in bed for an hour and a half or so after I get home, pace around and mindlessly scroll and think for a couple hours, then off to bed. Then on my days off I do much of the same and stress about having to go to work tomorrow or whenever I have to go next. I want to be able to sit down and watch something or play video games but I just can't relax and sit down. Anyone have any tips?
Fwiw, I would not say my job is particularly stressful. I am quite good at it and am one of the few people that regularly meet expectations and given quite a bit of slack whenever I make a mistake or anything. But when something does happen it does stress me out disproportionately.
Does anyone else feel restless/unable to relax/constantly stressed out since getting a job? It comes and goes but for the past few months it's noticeably worse. I find myself not being able to enjoy or "lose myself" in things very much. I'm always walking around just pacing, thinking - hard to focus on one thing at a time. I feel like I just can't relax even on my days off, the only exception being when I take a few days or a week off right after a weekend or something. I can only really relax when there's like 4-5 solid days between now and when I have to work next.
My job is fairly physical (I walk about 15k steps per day, lift 20-50lbs stuff occasionally, etc) and there's a lot of social interaction with coworkers so at the end of a workday I just crash and lay down in bed for an hour and a half or so after I get home, pace around and mindlessly scroll and think for a couple hours, then off to bed. Then on my days off I do much of the same and stress about having to go to work tomorrow or whenever I have to go next. I want to be able to sit down and watch something or play video games but I just can't relax and sit down. Anyone have any tips?
Fwiw, I would not say my job is particularly stressful. I am quite good at it and am one of the few people that regularly meet expectations and given quite a bit of slack whenever I make a mistake or anything. But when something does happen it does stress me out disproportionately.
R: 15 / I: 4
How do you even get a boyfriend or companionship?
How will I deal with the regret of never having a gf or bf.
I want to get one, but I know I'm too messed up from psychosis, BPD, autism, PTSD, and social withdrawal.
I've been NEET for 10 years and it's impossible I'll ever get a gf/bf now, I'm too fucked up and literally, everyone else is "normal".
Some guy I was talking to told me he wished he never met me and that I was sick.
How is this even fair? I only lived once and I was born in a family that fucked me up mentally.
How do you even get a boyfriend or companionship?
How will I deal with the regret of never having a gf or bf.
I want to get one, but I know I'm too messed up from psychosis, BPD, autism, PTSD, and social withdrawal.
I've been NEET for 10 years and it's impossible I'll ever get a gf/bf now, I'm too fucked up and literally, everyone else is "normal".
Some guy I was talking to told me he wished he never met me and that I was sick.
How is this even fair? I only lived once and I was born in a family that fucked me up mentally.
R: 2 / I: 1
I wasn't ever a complete NEET, I would still go to school and occasionally see friends, see my dad, et cetera. I was more in a weird grey area where while I was doing stuff, the second I got the chance, I'd recede back to where I would be most comfortable
At home, it'd be my room. at school, it would be the backwater classrooms where no actual classes were held (it was where my friends at the time hung out between classes), when visiting my dad it would be the side room with the strongest wifi. id always scurry back to hide once all the mandatory socialising was done. My family used to forget about me during the summer because I'd hide in my room all day long.
I always used to tell my miserable self that 'once I got out of school, things would change' or that 'once I could legally drink, I could see people more and talk to them without tearing my hair out'.
For the most part, that has been true. I've been out drinking with my classmates, I've been out with my family more, I'm booking my own doctors appointments instead of hiding behind my mum. It does feel great.
However, there's been a weird emptiness gnawing at me ever since I reached this point. I know I should be happy, I know I should be enjoying life, but I kind of miss being as sad as I was back when I was a teenager.
my loneliness was a sort of blanket made up of self pity and tragic backstory that I could use and wallow in. Being sad is weirdly comforting, being alone is that sad, messy blanket. I was in that messy situation for most of my teenage years, so it might be a form of nostalgia? I don't know, but I hate how much I miss it.
It's kind of hit a bad point as well. I've started listening to a lot more grim songs in order to channel my feelings somewhere, plus my writing is getting a little darker again. I used to write some dark stuff when I was at my worst, to put my feelings somewhere, but now that I'm trying to take my writing professional it might hinder me a fair bit.
Anyone else struggling with this kind of thing? I hope I'm not intruding here by not ever being a full NEET, but it's still about my issues with recovering from when I half was. Sorry if this is in the wrong place.
the cracks are starting to show
I remembered that on one of my posts about getting into uni, I was directed towards this board when the post wasn't really about recovery. funnily enough, I do actually have something to say here nowI wasn't ever a complete NEET, I would still go to school and occasionally see friends, see my dad, et cetera. I was more in a weird grey area where while I was doing stuff, the second I got the chance, I'd recede back to where I would be most comfortable
At home, it'd be my room. at school, it would be the backwater classrooms where no actual classes were held (it was where my friends at the time hung out between classes), when visiting my dad it would be the side room with the strongest wifi. id always scurry back to hide once all the mandatory socialising was done. My family used to forget about me during the summer because I'd hide in my room all day long.
I always used to tell my miserable self that 'once I got out of school, things would change' or that 'once I could legally drink, I could see people more and talk to them without tearing my hair out'.
For the most part, that has been true. I've been out drinking with my classmates, I've been out with my family more, I'm booking my own doctors appointments instead of hiding behind my mum. It does feel great.
However, there's been a weird emptiness gnawing at me ever since I reached this point. I know I should be happy, I know I should be enjoying life, but I kind of miss being as sad as I was back when I was a teenager.
my loneliness was a sort of blanket made up of self pity and tragic backstory that I could use and wallow in. Being sad is weirdly comforting, being alone is that sad, messy blanket. I was in that messy situation for most of my teenage years, so it might be a form of nostalgia? I don't know, but I hate how much I miss it.
It's kind of hit a bad point as well. I've started listening to a lot more grim songs in order to channel my feelings somewhere, plus my writing is getting a little darker again. I used to write some dark stuff when I was at my worst, to put my feelings somewhere, but now that I'm trying to take my writing professional it might hinder me a fair bit.
Anyone else struggling with this kind of thing? I hope I'm not intruding here by not ever being a full NEET, but it's still about my issues with recovering from when I half was. Sorry if this is in the wrong place.
R: 9 / I: 1
But I survived, and fell into a vicious cycle of anguish and torment which has taught me the meaning of suffering. I now feel like I can only relate to people who have suffered.
So the question I want to start this thread with is: what made you withdraw? What circumstances in your life led to you shutting the blinds on society and taking to your bed? If you want to recover from being withdrawn, then what made you ill in the first place?
What made you withdraw?
For me, it was a mental breakdown which struck right at the cusp of becoming an adult, when I was 14 and on holiday with my parents. I had just left secondary school and so was approaching adulthood, and I broke down on holiday and fell so quickly ill that I felt like I was going to die. I cried holding the hands of my family as I felt the darkness was coming in, I felt certain I was dying.But I survived, and fell into a vicious cycle of anguish and torment which has taught me the meaning of suffering. I now feel like I can only relate to people who have suffered.
So the question I want to start this thread with is: what made you withdraw? What circumstances in your life led to you shutting the blinds on society and taking to your bed? If you want to recover from being withdrawn, then what made you ill in the first place?
R: 10 / I: 0
coping with full-time employment
i have been a NEET for most of the last decade, apart from a seasonal part-time job some years ago which i quit after a few months. i recently was hired full-time for a mostly WFH office job. how can i cope with suddenly having to work for eight hours a day? i can't relax because i know i'm just going to have to do it again tomorrow. i feel like i have no free time any more. what are some strategies i can use to avoid suicide? i miss those carefree days already…
R: 3 / I: 1
Does anyone else feel like they've lost a part of themselves after ceasing their neetdom? I don't even work a particularly strenuous job. I don't work that many hours. But when I was a NEET, even though many other people told me it was impossible, I was at least content - if not happy. I would frequently just hang out in my comfy blanket or outside on the patio and watch a series I liked or play a game I wanted to me but ever since I started wageslaving I just can't do that anymore. I'm restless. I just can't get comfortable.
I've been at this job for a couple years and honestly it's not bad. I'm one of the few non tards so I have actually gained a lot of respect and (justified) responsibility as well as basically a blank check to do whatever as long as I get my work done. Unlimited unpaid time off too. But for whatever reason even on my days off I just can't relax. I'm meandering a bit. But tl;dr, my job isn't bad and has allowed me to save up quite a bit.
Honestly, I miss being able to daydream a few hours away with fantastical stories in my head like I used to. I miss the comfy lifestyle I used to have. I miss watching videos and anime and playing videogames. I miss being able to relax without worrying about waking up early on 4-6 hour sleep for work in 48 hours.
I've thought this out and rewritten it and rewritten it for weeks. I just can't articulate it properly. I feel like I've lost a big part of myself and cannot enjoy the things that used to bring me happiness due to newfound obligations. I just can't get comfortable anymore
Does anyone else feel like they've lost a part of themselves after ceasing their neetdom? I don't even work a particularly strenuous job. I don't work that many hours. But when I was a NEET, even though many other people told me it was impossible, I was at least content - if not happy. I would frequently just hang out in my comfy blanket or outside on the patio and watch a series I liked or play a game I wanted to me but ever since I started wageslaving I just can't do that anymore. I'm restless. I just can't get comfortable.
I've been at this job for a couple years and honestly it's not bad. I'm one of the few non tards so I have actually gained a lot of respect and (justified) responsibility as well as basically a blank check to do whatever as long as I get my work done. Unlimited unpaid time off too. But for whatever reason even on my days off I just can't relax. I'm meandering a bit. But tl;dr, my job isn't bad and has allowed me to save up quite a bit.
Honestly, I miss being able to daydream a few hours away with fantastical stories in my head like I used to. I miss the comfy lifestyle I used to have. I miss watching videos and anime and playing videogames. I miss being able to relax without worrying about waking up early on 4-6 hour sleep for work in 48 hours.
I've thought this out and rewritten it and rewritten it for weeks. I just can't articulate it properly. I feel like I've lost a big part of myself and cannot enjoy the things that used to bring me happiness due to newfound obligations. I just can't get comfortable anymore
R: 6 / I: 7
once i muster up the strength to refill my adderall, id like to start school again at a community college for programming or computer science
is it unrealistic to want to have a job that i can work from home, that is the only way i see myself being happy in the future
is this just wishful thinking or do you think its obtainable
once i muster up the strength to refill my adderall, id like to start school again at a community college for programming or computer science
is it unrealistic to want to have a job that i can work from home, that is the only way i see myself being happy in the future
is this just wishful thinking or do you think its obtainable
R: 1 / I: 0
I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I don't know where else to say this and I want to vent somewhere. I'm not a NEET so I don't really feel it appropriate to post on /hikki/.
Well, I say I want to vent, but I had a whole blogpost typed up and deleted it out of embarrassment. The truth of the matter is my life is not really that bad. It could be better, but I feel silly complaining about it when so many others out there have it so much worse. I'm just lonely. I feel like I have nobody to turn to. I don't feel close to my family and I haven't since I was a kid. I don't have very many friends and I don't feel close to them either. It's hard for me to connect to others. Small problems just pile up and weigh down on me and I have no one to help alleviate it. I just want somebody to see the good I try to do. I want someone to want to see me happy. I want someone I can go to at the end of the day and be held and kissed by and told that I tried my best and that things will be okay. I don't need constant sex or a high-paying job or anything like that. I'm just tired of constantly playing therapist for others. For almost every adult friendship and the one relationship I've been in, all I have been is a blank slate and a shoulder to cry on. I'm tired of being the caregiver. I'm tired of being the only one who's there for me. I have bad days often and no one to make them okay. I'm really tired of it and I don't know what to do. I know I'm likely the problem. I just want to be accepted and loved and comforted. Sorry for complaining.
I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I don't know where else to say this and I want to vent somewhere. I'm not a NEET so I don't really feel it appropriate to post on /hikki/.
Well, I say I want to vent, but I had a whole blogpost typed up and deleted it out of embarrassment. The truth of the matter is my life is not really that bad. It could be better, but I feel silly complaining about it when so many others out there have it so much worse. I'm just lonely. I feel like I have nobody to turn to. I don't feel close to my family and I haven't since I was a kid. I don't have very many friends and I don't feel close to them either. It's hard for me to connect to others. Small problems just pile up and weigh down on me and I have no one to help alleviate it. I just want somebody to see the good I try to do. I want someone to want to see me happy. I want someone I can go to at the end of the day and be held and kissed by and told that I tried my best and that things will be okay. I don't need constant sex or a high-paying job or anything like that. I'm just tired of constantly playing therapist for others. For almost every adult friendship and the one relationship I've been in, all I have been is a blank slate and a shoulder to cry on. I'm tired of being the caregiver. I'm tired of being the only one who's there for me. I have bad days often and no one to make them okay. I'm really tired of it and I don't know what to do. I know I'm likely the problem. I just want to be accepted and loved and comforted. Sorry for complaining.
R: 7 / I: 3
I'm working part time at the front end of Walmart. Still in orientation, but it looks like they're desperate for new guys. I want to use this to develop my soft skills. It's scary, but it's time for change.
I don't know why I'm making this post. But I'll use this thread as an ongoing diary of sorts, like i see some others have done. I plan on going back to school either in the Winter or Spring, I want to acclimate to people again first.
I won't ramble on right now, but I don't know how much I relate to the other NEETs out there, I'm not nearly as cynical about everything I guess.. I'm just an idiot, and have undiagnosed mental health problems that have been around since childhood (I suspect OCD). Which I will be seeking treatment now after I sort out some paperwork with my insurance.
I just want an outlet to talk about my progress, nobody around me seems to care lol.
Cheer me on! I'm cheering you on!
Got a Job
I got a job after 8 years of NEET-dom. I'm tired of the NEET life.I'm working part time at the front end of Walmart. Still in orientation, but it looks like they're desperate for new guys. I want to use this to develop my soft skills. It's scary, but it's time for change.
I don't know why I'm making this post. But I'll use this thread as an ongoing diary of sorts, like i see some others have done. I plan on going back to school either in the Winter or Spring, I want to acclimate to people again first.
I won't ramble on right now, but I don't know how much I relate to the other NEETs out there, I'm not nearly as cynical about everything I guess.. I'm just an idiot, and have undiagnosed mental health problems that have been around since childhood (I suspect OCD). Which I will be seeking treatment now after I sort out some paperwork with my insurance.
I just want an outlet to talk about my progress, nobody around me seems to care lol.
Cheer me on! I'm cheering you on!
R: 8 / I: 1
im an ironworker. my job is quite tough
im not cut out for industrial labour. while i have no problem doing rural labour i feel like i should have a thicker skin and just be able to do whatever is expected of me with my body. i feel like i should be grateful for having a good unionized job with decent employers. but i cant
i dislike it greatly
even slow days tire me the fuck out
and the manager has 0 mercy with the newbies
all around me ive built a hispanic macho image of myself to protect my soft, emotional core. and this rough shell tells me to suck it up and take it, to absorb the pain and the exhaustion and forge myself into a tougher man. but my inner self just wants to be a shut in, focus myself in my career (park ranger) and finish it to finally fuck off to the woods
can you please give me words of encouragment? or at least tell me what you would do in my position?
im an ironworker. my job is quite tough
im not cut out for industrial labour. while i have no problem doing rural labour i feel like i should have a thicker skin and just be able to do whatever is expected of me with my body. i feel like i should be grateful for having a good unionized job with decent employers. but i cant
i dislike it greatly
even slow days tire me the fuck out
and the manager has 0 mercy with the newbies
all around me ive built a hispanic macho image of myself to protect my soft, emotional core. and this rough shell tells me to suck it up and take it, to absorb the pain and the exhaustion and forge myself into a tougher man. but my inner self just wants to be a shut in, focus myself in my career (park ranger) and finish it to finally fuck off to the woods
can you please give me words of encouragment? or at least tell me what you would do in my position?
R: 2 / I: 1
I've recently started learning some skills that I hope will pay off in the long term, but I need to make some money in the mean time to buy a car.
I'm absolutely terrified to get a job though. There's not much around me except for retail work which does not mesh well with me. This is something I've avoided doing for many years.
I'd be happy to hear your experience with your first job, or with retail if you've happened to work that. Anything to not make me so nervous.
I've recently started learning some skills that I hope will pay off in the long term, but I need to make some money in the mean time to buy a car.
I'm absolutely terrified to get a job though. There's not much around me except for retail work which does not mesh well with me. This is something I've avoided doing for many years.
I'd be happy to hear your experience with your first job, or with retail if you've happened to work that. Anything to not make me so nervous.
R: 0 / I: 0
I'm already burned out from studying all the time. Currently taking physics and a few other courses, and it feels like this isn't getting me anywhere. Why the fuck do I even try? Just to have a piece of paper that may or may not help me find a job? The misery never ends.
I'm already burned out from studying all the time. Currently taking physics and a few other courses, and it feels like this isn't getting me anywhere. Why the fuck do I even try? Just to have a piece of paper that may or may not help me find a job? The misery never ends.
R: 1 / I: 0
I’ve currently got a full-time professional job, but the circumstances of it are making me face the same kind of dilemma as when I was a NEET. Right now I’ve got the NEET dream job, I work from home and have barely any work, so I’m basically just getting paid to sit at home and watch anime. On the other hand, currently I live with my parents in a very high CoL area and the job pays a lot less than I could be making, with no real opportunities for advancement, so my options for moving out here are limited. I’m also just not a fan of the culture and people in this city so I’d like to move away for multiple reasons. Also even though I'm working from home now moving away while keeping the job isn't an option.
That said, it’s still very hard to give up my pseudo-NEET life for a job where I’d actually have to do work, and I have no specific place I want to move other than “not here” so I’ve been stuck on autopilot here for years now. These circumstances are getting more and more frustrating to the point I definitely feel like I have to make a big change soon, but with no concrete goal in mind it’s just a lot easier to go with the flow. I would appreciate any advice on
A) being willing to give up my current job for something more serious
B) figuring out where to move out of anywhere when I spend most my time in my room so I don’t know what I’m really looking for in a city and there’s nothing like friends in X city to help narrow down the options
I’ve currently got a full-time professional job, but the circumstances of it are making me face the same kind of dilemma as when I was a NEET. Right now I’ve got the NEET dream job, I work from home and have barely any work, so I’m basically just getting paid to sit at home and watch anime. On the other hand, currently I live with my parents in a very high CoL area and the job pays a lot less than I could be making, with no real opportunities for advancement, so my options for moving out here are limited. I’m also just not a fan of the culture and people in this city so I’d like to move away for multiple reasons. Also even though I'm working from home now moving away while keeping the job isn't an option.
That said, it’s still very hard to give up my pseudo-NEET life for a job where I’d actually have to do work, and I have no specific place I want to move other than “not here” so I’ve been stuck on autopilot here for years now. These circumstances are getting more and more frustrating to the point I definitely feel like I have to make a big change soon, but with no concrete goal in mind it’s just a lot easier to go with the flow. I would appreciate any advice on
A) being willing to give up my current job for something more serious
B) figuring out where to move out of anywhere when I spend most my time in my room so I don’t know what I’m really looking for in a city and there’s nothing like friends in X city to help narrow down the options
R: 8 / I: 2
Just lost my job. I've got bipolar and have been super depressive. The free clinic I've been going to doesn't open until next month.
Just wanted to make a post, shit's tough to try and get through.
Just lost my job. I've got bipolar and have been super depressive. The free clinic I've been going to doesn't open until next month.
Just wanted to make a post, shit's tough to try and get through.
R: 0 / I: 0
i always stay put or back down from conflict whenever it arises, be it stingy banter from coworkers or strangers pushing my boundries. its a shit habit i learned from my mother and it wont go away, and im tired of keeping my head down
how do you guys deal with this stuff? anyone knows how to project respect unto others? when i was an angsty teen i threw fists at the problem but now that im a grown ass man i cant solve things that way anymore
pic extremely related, no-one messes with the kangaroid
standing up for myself
well since im in similar company id like to talk to my fellow ex-neets about uncomfortable social situationsi always stay put or back down from conflict whenever it arises, be it stingy banter from coworkers or strangers pushing my boundries. its a shit habit i learned from my mother and it wont go away, and im tired of keeping my head down
how do you guys deal with this stuff? anyone knows how to project respect unto others? when i was an angsty teen i threw fists at the problem but now that im a grown ass man i cant solve things that way anymore
pic extremely related, no-one messes with the kangaroid
R: 2 / I: 0
How do you cope with even part time employment? I've been.working around 30 hours a week for about two years now (after like 5 years of.neetdom) and I'm at my wit's end. It's not even a hard job but having to wake up in the morning 3-4 days a week and go to a job where I'm treated poorly is taking its toll. I don't imagine it's much better anywhere else. Even if I was treated really good I still wouldn't want to do it. I want to do and learn a lot of things but I don't have the energy on the days I work and pn my days off I don't feel like it because I'm anxious about returning to work
I don't even really see the point in working. I don't want a relationship or to move out. I don't really have any ambitions or desires that would require me to work. I save up all my paychecks anyway because I don't want much. I only got out of the NEET life because I thought it would make me feel happier and fulfilled but I'm worse off than ever. I rarely do anything that I want to do and even if I don't work on a day it's wasted feeling anxious or recovering mentally. I'm also slowly becoming dependent on alcohol to relax and have any kind of a good time
I was considering quitting and maybe have a more relaxed schedule selling art commissions or doing something else freelance. I'm just worried I wouldn't be able to motivate myself. How do full time wagies cope with their even more demanding schedule?
How do you cope with even part time employment? I've been.working around 30 hours a week for about two years now (after like 5 years of.neetdom) and I'm at my wit's end. It's not even a hard job but having to wake up in the morning 3-4 days a week and go to a job where I'm treated poorly is taking its toll. I don't imagine it's much better anywhere else. Even if I was treated really good I still wouldn't want to do it. I want to do and learn a lot of things but I don't have the energy on the days I work and pn my days off I don't feel like it because I'm anxious about returning to work
I don't even really see the point in working. I don't want a relationship or to move out. I don't really have any ambitions or desires that would require me to work. I save up all my paychecks anyway because I don't want much. I only got out of the NEET life because I thought it would make me feel happier and fulfilled but I'm worse off than ever. I rarely do anything that I want to do and even if I don't work on a day it's wasted feeling anxious or recovering mentally. I'm also slowly becoming dependent on alcohol to relax and have any kind of a good time
I was considering quitting and maybe have a more relaxed schedule selling art commissions or doing something else freelance. I'm just worried I wouldn't be able to motivate myself. How do full time wagies cope with their even more demanding schedule?
R: 27 / I: 5
there's this girl I'm seeing that's 10 years older than me. she's the first girl I've made out and fondled with. she's alright, and I like her, but (I suppose this comes with our rather significant age difference) she's too forward and horny all the time and it makes me feel uncomfortable. I ain't even ready to have sex yet
where and how can I meet girls *my* age (this is what I'd wager marked our differences) that are reserved, quiet and introverted like me? I'm into manga, videogames and writing, not sure if it matters
I don't even know how to deal with women. getting a chance with this girl was mostly pure luck. we hardly knew each other, flirted a little bit on social media and then we met up and stuff. since it's not going as smoothly as I expect, I think trying other methods would be a good idea
some friends suggested clubbing after this whole pandemic crap ends, but it's not really my scene
there's this girl I'm seeing that's 10 years older than me. she's the first girl I've made out and fondled with. she's alright, and I like her, but (I suppose this comes with our rather significant age difference) she's too forward and horny all the time and it makes me feel uncomfortable. I ain't even ready to have sex yet
where and how can I meet girls *my* age (this is what I'd wager marked our differences) that are reserved, quiet and introverted like me? I'm into manga, videogames and writing, not sure if it matters
I don't even know how to deal with women. getting a chance with this girl was mostly pure luck. we hardly knew each other, flirted a little bit on social media and then we met up and stuff. since it's not going as smoothly as I expect, I think trying other methods would be a good idea
some friends suggested clubbing after this whole pandemic crap ends, but it's not really my scene
R: 7 / I: 0
technically not a NEET now, but has been one on/off ever since i was 18. I have many things to say, ill just condense everything here.
so, it feels like i have accomplished nothing, other then start my GED, no job yet, no funds saved and getting one would be very overwhelming and the previous job i had at a store was horrible.
do you know any good jobs for a sperg recluse? I was thinking videogame QA, agoraphobia limits my choice in employment aswell.
also, i feel like i wasted all my free time doing nothing, and not even having much fun, just on youtube, discord and videogames mindlessly watching, playing and talking to people on discord but that ends up making me feel alienated since i dont feel i can be genuine, theres no place where i can say whats on my mind and just have an honest conversation, im re-discovering image boards again, this place seems like gold, sad that im only discovering good things such as yume nikki and uboachan when i was post NEET. As another anon posted, im thinking of looking into IRC/fediverse aswell to discover small comfy internet bunkers.
i wish i would have done things differently and discovered things earlier, too bad i cant get nostalgic about these things now, oh well.
unrelated but, im thinking of making a yume nikki inspired game, i dont want to be the "ideas guy" anymore, and i want to finally create SOMETHING in my life, i dont want to be lazy and passive no longer, im not motivated by fame, or money, just a drive to create and my imagination. Im not going to quit when i come across a obstacle. I have no skills, but i will MAKE skills if i have to!
this probably sounds like a autistic ramble, it probably is.
technically not a NEET now, but has been one on/off ever since i was 18. I have many things to say, ill just condense everything here.
so, it feels like i have accomplished nothing, other then start my GED, no job yet, no funds saved and getting one would be very overwhelming and the previous job i had at a store was horrible.
do you know any good jobs for a sperg recluse? I was thinking videogame QA, agoraphobia limits my choice in employment aswell.
also, i feel like i wasted all my free time doing nothing, and not even having much fun, just on youtube, discord and videogames mindlessly watching, playing and talking to people on discord but that ends up making me feel alienated since i dont feel i can be genuine, theres no place where i can say whats on my mind and just have an honest conversation, im re-discovering image boards again, this place seems like gold, sad that im only discovering good things such as yume nikki and uboachan when i was post NEET. As another anon posted, im thinking of looking into IRC/fediverse aswell to discover small comfy internet bunkers.
i wish i would have done things differently and discovered things earlier, too bad i cant get nostalgic about these things now, oh well.
unrelated but, im thinking of making a yume nikki inspired game, i dont want to be the "ideas guy" anymore, and i want to finally create SOMETHING in my life, i dont want to be lazy and passive no longer, im not motivated by fame, or money, just a drive to create and my imagination. Im not going to quit when i come across a obstacle. I have no skills, but i will MAKE skills if i have to!
this probably sounds like a autistic ramble, it probably is.
R: 5 / I: 2
Panic Attacks
I just had a panic attack while attending an employment training course. I've had them before but this was the worst one yet, I feel like such a failure when everyone else there is perfectly fine with the tasks, and I'm not. Anyone else have experience with them? Have you been able to overcome them?
R: 5 / I: 0
Hello
I am looking for my Canadian friend. He went offline almost exactly this time 3 years ago.
His name is 0x39. Other names he went by were Nick and turbotard and 疑惑 and lots of other kanji names that I can't remember.
He was very nice to me and was aspiring to be tea otaku. He sometimes posted on Lainchan a long time ago (maybe 5+ years ago?). He was studying computer science back in 2018. One time he went to a maid cafe in Japan.
Do you know my friend? How can I reach him?
I just want to find my friend again. I miss him very much. Please let me know if you know him, my email is in the email field!
The next bit is for 0x39 if he's reading this. It's top sekrit private!! So please don't open spoiler unless you're the real 0x39!!!!
Hi, I know I'm doxing you a bit, I'm really sorry. I'm just trying to find you, but I know maybe you don't want to be found. I'm so sorry for intruding. You disappeared at the end of April 2018, I never got to be a better friend to you. We only talked for a little bit. I knew you were going soon, you said you were troubled by things. I wanted so much to hold onto you tighter, but I didn't want to smother you. You slipped away. You said you might make a new steam profile one day, but I don't think that day has come yet. You were a nice person and I wished I could've helped you more when you needed a friend the most. But I got there too late. It was already time for you to go. It's always like that for me: late to every party. I remember, I told you that you should always try to say a proper goodbye to your friends, just so they know for sure. And the last thing you gave to me was just a little "so…bye I guess". I always felt that it didn't count, not when you'd left so much unfinished, friend.
Hello
I am looking for my Canadian friend. He went offline almost exactly this time 3 years ago.
His name is 0x39. Other names he went by were Nick and turbotard and 疑惑 and lots of other kanji names that I can't remember.
He was very nice to me and was aspiring to be tea otaku. He sometimes posted on Lainchan a long time ago (maybe 5+ years ago?). He was studying computer science back in 2018. One time he went to a maid cafe in Japan.
Do you know my friend? How can I reach him?
I just want to find my friend again. I miss him very much. Please let me know if you know him, my email is in the email field!
The next bit is for 0x39 if he's reading this. It's top sekrit private!! So please don't open spoiler unless you're the real 0x39!!!!
Hi, I know I'm doxing you a bit, I'm really sorry. I'm just trying to find you, but I know maybe you don't want to be found. I'm so sorry for intruding. You disappeared at the end of April 2018, I never got to be a better friend to you. We only talked for a little bit. I knew you were going soon, you said you were troubled by things. I wanted so much to hold onto you tighter, but I didn't want to smother you. You slipped away. You said you might make a new steam profile one day, but I don't think that day has come yet. You were a nice person and I wished I could've helped you more when you needed a friend the most. But I got there too late. It was already time for you to go. It's always like that for me: late to every party. I remember, I told you that you should always try to say a proper goodbye to your friends, just so they know for sure. And the last thing you gave to me was just a little "so…bye I guess". I always felt that it didn't count, not when you'd left so much unfinished, friend.
R: 42 / I: 9
just when I was turning my life around a global pandemic hits
how are you living through the covid madness, bros? I still gotta commute to work lmao
just when I was turning my life around a global pandemic hits
how are you living through the covid madness, bros? I still gotta commute to work lmao
R: 0 / I: 0
Instead I choose to earn a living by staring at a screen all day and typing non-sense only autists and computers can understand. I'm not even that good at it.
There is nothing stopping me from going out but I'm so unsightly, I'm not the person I was a year ago and I don't have anywhere to go anymore either.
I feel dread every time I hear the microsoft teams notification sound.
I'm becoming agoraphobic again, how is this any different from being a NEET?
Return to NEETdom
Its a cloudy, dark gloomy day outside and if the lockdown had never happenned, if I had made another choice a year ago, I would be outside enjoying the sights and coming home from a boring day at work.Instead I choose to earn a living by staring at a screen all day and typing non-sense only autists and computers can understand. I'm not even that good at it.
There is nothing stopping me from going out but I'm so unsightly, I'm not the person I was a year ago and I don't have anywhere to go anymore either.
I feel dread every time I hear the microsoft teams notification sound.
I'm becoming agoraphobic again, how is this any different from being a NEET?
R: 8 / I: 1
Victory thread
Post here whenever you make a good step. Today I talked to some old friends from school, one hour either side of pressing send was absolute hell but everything after that was almost hilariously easy and I had a good time.
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I mean 2 different things when I say "live and alive, "to "wish to live" you must "wish to die" that is to say wish to encounter your worst fear or whatever you have ran away from to hide in your castle, it's the only way to get colour, to embrace life you must embrace death, I do not mean this in a literal sense I mean life as in the positive aspects and death as in the hurdles and fears, one cannot exist without the other, you guys probably know all this stuff already though being able to identify if something is optimal doesn't mean you are incentivised or willing to enact it.
it seems there are 2 choices to continue this grey lifestyle or to try and do something.
this post probably sounds severely schizophrenic and I doubt I was able to get my point across, all of this was inspired by a chat with a former hikkineet I had, I will keep you lads in my prayers.
on whether to continue this hikki neet life
I was meditating upon the subject for a while and this is the conclusion I have to come to "to wish to live you must wish to die" wishing to live in the sense of "really living" you can't keep running and be safe in your castle, it's a rather colourless way to live one with no variations, very grey.I mean 2 different things when I say "live and alive, "to "wish to live" you must "wish to die" that is to say wish to encounter your worst fear or whatever you have ran away from to hide in your castle, it's the only way to get colour, to embrace life you must embrace death, I do not mean this in a literal sense I mean life as in the positive aspects and death as in the hurdles and fears, one cannot exist without the other, you guys probably know all this stuff already though being able to identify if something is optimal doesn't mean you are incentivised or willing to enact it.
it seems there are 2 choices to continue this grey lifestyle or to try and do something.
this post probably sounds severely schizophrenic and I doubt I was able to get my point across, all of this was inspired by a chat with a former hikkineet I had, I will keep you lads in my prayers.
R: 1 / I: 0
Sorry if there's already a thread for this, but do any anons have special living arrangements?
Group homes, supported housing, assisted living, etc.
I'm looking into them trying to slowly transition from crippiling poor tard into a semi-functional-on-the-surface member of society, so if any anons have or had lived in one of these it would be nice to read.
Sorry if there's already a thread for this, but do any anons have special living arrangements?
Group homes, supported housing, assisted living, etc.
I'm looking into them trying to slowly transition from crippiling poor tard into a semi-functional-on-the-surface member of society, so if any anons have or had lived in one of these it would be nice to read.
R: 1 / I: 0
everythings fine. great, even. it appears i do have some social skills and put them to work just fine
then why do i feel so doubtful and despairing all the time? why do i feel sluggish and backwards when i compare myself to others? why do i feel like ive been left aside from important or enjoyable moments because of just being me? why do i feel encased in ice, trapped in time and unable to catch up with everyones rythm?
every been to a party? for those who have, id probably know how we would spend time at it: awkwardly holding a glass of soda in a corner while looking at our feet. thats what id do anyways. thats how id feel anyways. thats the feeling that chases me to this very day, at any moment. at home. outside. alone. with other people
me; stunted by rave lights and ear-shattering music like a deer surprised by a car's headlights watching everyone have fun and be better
everythings fine. great, even. it appears i do have some social skills and put them to work just fine
then why do i feel so doubtful and despairing all the time? why do i feel sluggish and backwards when i compare myself to others? why do i feel like ive been left aside from important or enjoyable moments because of just being me? why do i feel encased in ice, trapped in time and unable to catch up with everyones rythm?
every been to a party? for those who have, id probably know how we would spend time at it: awkwardly holding a glass of soda in a corner while looking at our feet. thats what id do anyways. thats how id feel anyways. thats the feeling that chases me to this very day, at any moment. at home. outside. alone. with other people
me; stunted by rave lights and ear-shattering music like a deer surprised by a car's headlights watching everyone have fun and be better
R: 8 / I: 0
Growing up I was never put into school. I was not homeschooled either. My cognitive ability is quite limited. I can't do the simplest of math, and my handwriting looks like it was done by a 6 year old. Of course, I have very little social skills because of this, and being around people gives me anxiety. I have no life experience or skills at all.
I think this was all my mothers plan, to make a bird who would never leave her nest. That might sound like a paradise for some NEETS, but when your Mother is controlling and manipulative, and your Father is raging and violent, you cannot help but want to get away from them.
I don't know if I could ever make it in the world on my own since my Mother does everything for me. She even speaks for me whenever someone tries to talk with me. My entire life I've just felt like a lapdog.
Ideally, the next step for me to get out of here would be to study for a drivers license, but I've never studied anything before, and can't even read two pages of a book without getting bored, demotivated, and forgetting everything I just read. Even if I could do it, it's not like I could get a car anyway. Is it even possible for someone like me to get out of being a NEET? What can I do?
From what I know, all the online jobs require some sort of skill.
Growing up I was never put into school. I was not homeschooled either. My cognitive ability is quite limited. I can't do the simplest of math, and my handwriting looks like it was done by a 6 year old. Of course, I have very little social skills because of this, and being around people gives me anxiety. I have no life experience or skills at all.
I think this was all my mothers plan, to make a bird who would never leave her nest. That might sound like a paradise for some NEETS, but when your Mother is controlling and manipulative, and your Father is raging and violent, you cannot help but want to get away from them.
I don't know if I could ever make it in the world on my own since my Mother does everything for me. She even speaks for me whenever someone tries to talk with me. My entire life I've just felt like a lapdog.
Ideally, the next step for me to get out of here would be to study for a drivers license, but I've never studied anything before, and can't even read two pages of a book without getting bored, demotivated, and forgetting everything I just read. Even if I could do it, it's not like I could get a car anyway. Is it even possible for someone like me to get out of being a NEET? What can I do?
From what I know, all the online jobs require some sort of skill.
R: 2 / I: 0
After leaving high school age 18 I went full on NEET 3 years, then done a year of college before University. I had more chronic health issues then, but despite all that my first year of University I actually was able to socialise regularly.
The second year I even got a girlfriend, but poor communication ended it, which kind of sucks. I feel I have no real direction moving forward now as I've been able to pass as normal. For some reason, it kicked my motivation out since I question why put in all the hard work if results are minimal?
I'm struggling to get my motivation back :( my life was almost going like an anime in terms of dating the first girl I spent time with 1 on 1 in my entire life at that point. It took an incredible amount of self-discipline to get results and I feel buuurned!
3 year NEET, part-time school and now University.
I was always extremely introverted in adolesence, chronic pain at 16 led me to become entirely reclusive.After leaving high school age 18 I went full on NEET 3 years, then done a year of college before University. I had more chronic health issues then, but despite all that my first year of University I actually was able to socialise regularly.
The second year I even got a girlfriend, but poor communication ended it, which kind of sucks. I feel I have no real direction moving forward now as I've been able to pass as normal. For some reason, it kicked my motivation out since I question why put in all the hard work if results are minimal?
I'm struggling to get my motivation back :( my life was almost going like an anime in terms of dating the first girl I spent time with 1 on 1 in my entire life at that point. It took an incredible amount of self-discipline to get results and I feel buuurned!
R: 5 / I: 0
so I got promoted at my job and now I'm a phone salesman. today I got the calls' script and I was told to listen to my coworkers so I can pick up their conversation lines. that's no problem, but the thing is, I got scared, and it showed. I became very quiet through the work day and sat all hunched over
dealing with people is not my strong suit, but I've been asking for an opportunity to harden up to the things I fear or don't like, and now it came, sadly I'm just out of the loop
all I can do right now is pray for strength and courage. any advice?
so I got promoted at my job and now I'm a phone salesman. today I got the calls' script and I was told to listen to my coworkers so I can pick up their conversation lines. that's no problem, but the thing is, I got scared, and it showed. I became very quiet through the work day and sat all hunched over
dealing with people is not my strong suit, but I've been asking for an opportunity to harden up to the things I fear or don't like, and now it came, sadly I'm just out of the loop
all I can do right now is pray for strength and courage. any advice?
R: 0 / I: 0 (sticky)
If you are trying to go back to school or get a job, or if you've exited NEETdom a while ago but are still having problems, this is now the place to talk about it.
Ex-NEET Recovery Board
Since it's sometimes difficult to have a conversation about trying to exit the NEET lifestyle in /hikki/ without it getting derailed, I have created this new board for such conversations.If you are trying to go back to school or get a job, or if you've exited NEETdom a while ago but are still having problems, this is now the place to talk about it.