/rec/ - Ex-NEET / Recovery

I can relate to this, I stopped being a NEET over a decade ago now but it happened to me, I just told them how I felt and let them be after that.
At the same time, when I was a NEET I didn't like at all when people came to me with their ideas of self improvement and health, so I understand them too.
In the end they made it too. I think simply seeing me get better helped them.
The NEET who look down on people who get out of it exist, but I don't think it's a product of being NEET, I believe they'd be as lame as non-NEET.

After finally stopping being a NEET my former friends refused the challenge of adapting to my new unavailable lifestyle, they seem to feel safer with me contained to a room, but I know more than anyone that in the events of a cataclysm the low tier computer people like me would be the first to go, i needed to train my body into something capable of enduring things in case of scarcity.

>>695
>and they begin to treat you with resentment for doing that
I think that's thing that irritates me the most dealing with some old online friends and communities.

>You have a job? normalfag you dont understand my pain
>You have irl friends? how dare you normalfag
>You have a girlfriend and you have had sex? I can't believe I was ever friends with you traitor
It's so reductive and imageboard-brain poisoned. Especially the people who write you off when you dare speak about your problems with any of those three subjects (job, friends, relationships). If these are such a silver bullet to ending neetdom and living happy, healthy lives then why isn't every "normalfag" content with their lives? There are salarymen with wives and kids inches away from suicide everyday. Neetdom in general is a luxury I couldn't afford to keep, and I changed my life path accordingly. I still get paid like shit at my job, my girlfriend left me, and my group of irl friends is always dwindling but I stay the course because I want to die with something more to my name than "prolific shitposter on an imageboard/forum".

Why? Well for one, my parents can't fund my lifestyle forever and deserve their own financial freedom as well. Two, I want to find fulfillment in life beyond a screen and chatroom/board, there's more to life than sitting in your room playing video games and reminiscing on the good ol days of the internet (because fun fact: those good ol days aren't coming back no matter how much you shitpost, troll people, harass via forums and comment sections, support podcasters and comedians who act like they know shit but don't, and elect right wing politicians who act like they cater to you for your vote). Eventually you got to take some initiative in your life and find alternatives/new hobbies to the things that once gave you joy.

My advice to you op is to just ignore those people, if they are fostering resentment to you over miniscule steps towards improvement. They clearly don't have the emotional maturity or mental clarity to see what you got really ain't shit that 70%-80% of the population don't already have and you need support from uplifting people, not those that will drag you down. These wastes of space will just degrade you and mock you for your downfalls and sneer at you for your achievements. Better without that sort of person in your life, even if its comfortable because they are 4chan-brained like you.

>>695
I helped a friend escaping NEETdom, but it took some scolding. I barely had my shit together myself but was functional and on the surface looked normal (even successful). It involved me having to pretty much do everything for him at the beginning, sadly. Cleaning his house/room with him (cockroaches everywhere, his case was REALLY bad), getting rid of all the cockroaches (somehow something I'm proud of because they were all gone/died after he struggled for years with them, and I forgot which chemical I used but we mixed it with sugar), filling out/calling a ton of people to get his paperwork fixed and make sure he started getting welfare (he was living with a relative with zero income), looking up jobs online and telling him exactly what to do/where to go/what to say. Despite all of that people just don't give a fuck. I despised him and I still kinda do because he gave no fuck. At least at first. When I wasn't there he wouldn't clean his house, not even the basics, he'd just join me when I was with him to do most of the work. He was too retarded/brain damaged to respond to emails/phone calls or fill out forms, anything administrative was overwhelming. Multiple times he just straight up didn't go to a job interview we secured together because at the last moment he realized "it was bad" (too far away, bad hours, etc…). That was after wasting quite some time planning it with him. On top of that he'd fall for the scammiest shit out there and wanted to join a program for some bullshit. Just 10 minutes of looking it up and I realized it wasn't worth it. At some point I had enough and just told him (with another friend) that he had to do something otherwise we'd just leave, go on with our lives and to never bother contacting us again. Somehow it worked out, but we had to get mad. He's doing fine now, he puts in a lot of effort into it. Sometimes when I go out he's invited so I see him, he's doing really fine surprisingly and his house is clean, he has a paid internship in a field that he's passionate about. But I cannot help but resent him since he basically acts like I did nothing. I even pay for his food because I feel bad when I see him. Nobody gave a fuck about him, his parents/brothers weren't doing shit, I'm the one who helped him out. Now that he's doing a lot better though they SOMEHOW started appearing again in his life. I just hate him and have no idea why I helped him, it was beyond me.

Just save yourself OP, that's the only thing you can be sure of.

>>710
Can only help them by acting like substitute parents for a bit, the same way people who escaped NEETdom did it by parenting themselves, as weird as it sounds. And that involves being hated even when you're doing (or at least trying) to help/do the right thing because you're making him (the NEET) feel uncomfortable and he has to lash out on whatever he can (you, in that case).

Some NEETs make the mistake of thinking that beyond NEETdom is potentally some kind of salvation beyond pain, like a happy ending to a movie, in which your struggles aren't really struggles and you're living on auto pilot with far less trouble/stress than them. It's the same error a lot of people make (when I graduate/find a job/find a wife, my real life will start). So they resent you because you try to lecture them while being in that little paradise of yours (in their mind).

Personally, my personal experiences made me realize it's the opposite. The better I'm doing, and the better the people I see/frequent outside are doing, the more demanding life is, the more stressful and problematic it gets.

Escaping NEETdom out of a selfish mindset is very hard. You start realizing alternatives out there aren't pain free enclaves with a smooth sailing. You escape NEETdom with others in mind, from what I witnessed. Not wanting to be a burden anymore. Or potentially financially helping somone. Or becoming an inspiration to other NEETs.

Unless you're super delusional, then maybe you can do it for your own interests. People who only care about themselves will remain NEETs, that's just how it is. The way out begins with someone or something else in mind.