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Captchas didn't work. Sticking to janitors while we try to think of something else.

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I spend over 23 hours per day in my room doing nothing but reading the economic, moral, financial, and military collapse of the United States. I firmly believe that the United States will break up into pieces into at least 3 or 4 countries. I just don't know what to do. Its all about every man woman and child for themselves. Its all about shifting the burden. Shifting the cost of existing to someone else. I hate this shifting the burden to survive bulkshit. I'm 26. No degree 82 credits. No money. No nothing. What am I supposed to do? Work some piece of shit minimum wage job so some multi millionaire/billionaire can make even more billions and millions all while shifting the burden onto my back? Fuck that garbage. I hate this fucking world bullshit competition popularity contest hr bullshit every man for himself garbage. No one cares. Everyone dies. Nothing will be done by anyone one. So lets all get bullshit min wage jobs that don't even pay enough to fucking live while some rich person that doesn't even know you gets richer. I hate capitalism communism and socialism. Why? Because they all end the same exact way. A few rich psychopath control freaks controlling everything with all the money and guns and everyone else fucking off until they die. Fuck this world. I hate it. I ddon't know what to do or what I'm doing. I don't know. I dont know I dont know
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You're thinking too broadly. You're not going to burn down the forest if you can't bring yourself to see a tree.


Hit the float tank and learn more about yourself. I've worked shitty jobs as well, I mainly did it for experience.

I even quit my job recently because it was a bunch of bull shit. Money is useless I agree with you there. Instead of complaining and bickering on how shitty everything is, I turned inward to learn about myself.

Once you truly know yourself, then you can create your life. That's the path I'm on right now learning more about myself it's all that matters.


>I even quit my job recently because it was a bunch of bull shit. Money is useless I agree with you there. Instead of complaining and bickering on how shitty everything is, I turned inward to learn about myself.

How are you getting on without a job? Have you found another source of income, are you living modestly?



I look on craigslist for side jobs, house sitting, pet walking, help moving, yard work etc.

I'm quite the minimalist, so I don't have much. I don't go out to eat as well, I cook most of my stuff which is pretty easy.

Eventually once I know myself then I'll start doing what I want to do.


The day I figured out the world was screwed, I decided to become the man who would profit from it.

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Trans neets, hows life going for you?

I remember there being a thread for this before but I dont wanna be that guy who bumps an old thread.
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>tfw actually pretty ok with body
>but have manface and no money for FFS


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Hey I live in Seattle! (for the next 12 hours…)

Things have been improving since I started hormones and anti-depressants. Before I was drowning in anxiety, barely talked to anyone each day, and was basically a megadepressed hikki. Since then though I moved to the west coast and started becoming more… emotional? and less afraid of doing stuff with folks, I've been doing a lot of social stuff on weekends. I feel like some of my old interests are coming back, though actually staying focused enough on them to improve is something I need to work on.

Oh yeah I don't want to die every time I look in the mirror! I'm not sure what changed but I'm okay with it I guess. Still not presenting as female yet but enough people have thought I was a girl despite that that I'm feeling hopeful.

So, um, basically… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE . It is really tough but please hang in there!


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>Still not presenting as female yet but enough people have thought I was a girl despite that
That's really impressive. I don't know anyone else that can say that's ever really happened to them. I got it a lot when I was little because I kept my hair long, but ironically, at that age, being called "miss" or "young lady" would've actually made me feel indignant, as opposed to flattered.


I wonder how many times I'll need to see this before I can manage not to almost cry watching it.


I live in Alabama as a transitioning MtF and I understand how you feel. I was recently kicked out of my parents' house for the second time and forced to live with my emotionally abusive boyfriend. I haven't left the house in a month. I'm running out of money very quickly and I think I am going to graduate NEETdom soon when/if I move out.

Being trans here is very hard but with a decent income you can begin transitioning and being young helps a lot too. Most everyone thinks I'm cis and I like to keep it that way.


That's pretty bad, sorry to hear. Emotionally abusive how? Do you only stay with him because it's a way to support yourself without ending up on the street or having to work a job that forces you to deal with people all day?

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If you could wish for anything, what would it be?
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When I said this was going to look more and more like facebook I was being ironic


Ubuu~ is all of our homes, and I would legitimately be heartbroken if it were to die before I moved on past it.
I almost always post in anonymous because of many various reasons, but I've been able to see the user base change quite a bit over the past 5 years or so. "Summerfags" come and go, but a true ubuu poster will always lurk around even if they aren't actively taking a role in the community. :/
Ubuu is just a great place for people to feel like they belong I guess.


I hope ubuu dies soon just cause.


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What is your general opinion over how good or evil people are?

Do you believe people are generally good or evil?
Do you believe people are born good but just corrupted or born as self-serving creatures that are forced by society to be slightly less selfish?
Do you think there are just some people who are inherently good or bad and not a thing in the world can change that?
Do you think everyone feels guilt and remorse over the bad things they do?
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>I don't think most people are capable of knowing the difference between good and evil to be honest
Don't be like that. I'm pretty sure most people will know that killing is bad. I think you'll agree with me when I say that even 10-year-olds will know that cannibalism is wrong.

Stuff like this is easy to spot, because it naturally tugs our human instincts and signals an alarm.


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>I'm pretty sure most people will know that killing is bad.

Well, it isn't always, is it? If you kill to protect, in self defence, or to slay a villain, or for vengeance, than it's a virtuous act.

The difference between good and evil doesn't really exist in the act but in the intentions behind that act. Right and wrong are really quite complicated, like most things in life, and I feel that most people try to simplify it by basing their moral guidelines on hard and fast laws and preconceived judgements rather than thinking about things.


Do you think everyone feels guilt and remorse over the bad things they do?

Most do I guess.
I have a hard time feeling any guilt or remorse regardless what I do.
There is no use to do bad things for the sake of it though.
It is actual benefical to be a "good" person by societies standards. (most of the time)


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Cannibalism? Murder? Evil?

It's all situational. There are reasons behind every action, and hastily passing judgments is just.. bothersome.


I think most people are both a little bit good and evil at times. But vary rarely do you see someone truly good or bad.

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So what are your plans for the future? A while ago I decided I wasn't going to put forth any further effort to secure a future for myself beyond what's absolutely required of me, i.e making sure I don't get kicked out by the hand that feeds. It's working out pretty well so far, but I know it's not sustainable. Regardless, I feel alright about the whole thing, which is a lot more than I could say a year ago, when I would constantly panic about my lack of direction. Whatever works I guess. How about you guys?
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This. Life fulfillment doesn't come in the form of a house, a car, a steady job, and a nice little family of your own. You'll never know, maybe you will reach self-actualization through a hobby or through wandering around.



Only someone with a car, a steady job and a family could make this kind of statement.


i want to get rich and then buy a house far away so i can be a NEET away from reality


I was convicted of a felony when I was 14, I'm not going to say what because I hate explaining it, and I'm currently trying to get my record sealed.
I'm currently 24 and have tried to get a job multiple times to no avail. I hear there are agencies that help people like me so I'm going to try one soon.

My long term goal is to get a decent job, obtain family, and raise my children the best I can.


>Post portfolio.

I'm not good enough for that.
I want to make a webcomic and do dA/tumblr/etc. commissions while I study and actually get good, since net standards are more around my actual level. And then I'll try for that.
I'd like to also make some small games and learn to program a bit. Probably not enough to live on, but something for publicity and pocket change and fun.

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So, today I got over the stepping stone 90% of so called 'writers' never even approach - I completed the first draft of my novel.

How is that relevant to NEET? Well, for a good 24hrs I actually didn't feel like an utter, despicable failure at life and all therein. Even if nothing will come out of it in the end, the moment was glorious.

Back to the bitter trough of self-hate now…


There is a group called the ubergroup on a site called Scribophile. They are capable of reviewing whole novels in a relatively short period of time. If you're looking for reviews you can use that. If you can't get into Ubergroup you can also do chapter by chapter reviews.

If you're looking to publish after, there's a site called Absolutewrite whose forums have a thorough "who's who" publisher information/review forum where writers talk about their experiences with X publishing company/agent.

Good luck, anon. Congrats!

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I don't know what it is. I am not depressed, I just hate almost everything in this world. I feel like there is something extremely wrong on how this planet works. The competition is basically everywhere like humankind can't just live in peace. This makes life terribly hard to deal with. I'm tired of people who accuse me of being a depressed one with no life like they know what is a real life. I already said I am not depressed just extremely apathetic. I'm sick of this situation, why life has to be so difficult? Probably I can be considered a misanthrope but I don't really care. I wonder if anyone feels more or less like this.
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>just seek out the things that make you yourself happy, doing your best to ignore the outside static. Do what you can that within your own power to create the world that you would want to live in.

As much as we all hate (and have every right to hate) being powerless, no amount of disaffected people will be able to overthrow or alter the system in place. Its military and economic might is just so disproportionately powerful that anything which even looks like an attempt at dissent or reform will either be ignored, or—in the case that it becomes a significant threat to the status quo—violently extinguished. Even if a large enough group of people could affect the current socioeconomic conditions in a peaceful way, there simply isn't (and won't be) such a group; the world is rife with ignorant people, and no matter how hard you try to educate them, you'll never reach enough of them.

Time is precious, and worrying about the state of the world when you're helpless to try and stop it from going down the drain, is wasting it. I'm not saying that ignorance is bliss and I'm not trivializing the issue; this world really is in shambles. But you can still create your own sanctuary and wait it out. Maybe things will get better in your epoch, maybe they won't—but you've only got one life, so don't spend it worrying.

I get the feeling I've ranted about this before…


In the actual state of thing it could be one of the best "solutions". I understand what you want to say.


No, but they are not mutually exclusive either.
I disagree that things cant be changed, things can be altered drastically if we want to, but most people chose to remain ignorant.
Things have changed so much in the last years and that by individuals and small groups.
People have never had more power and oppertunity before like we have now.
Yet we throw that all away just to live hollow, consumerist, self-absorbed lives.
We are being drowned in with useless stuff and information even tough we could make them useful.

Making a sanctuary of your own is a noble idea, but actually going against the current and trying to have an effect on things is even more noble.


>The competition is basically everywhere like humankind can't just live in peace.
It's everywhere in the animal kingdom, too. Organisms eat other organisms to survive. Have we become too non-competitive for our own good? Unless we find some bountiful niche where we can exist, the society will treat us as bottom-of-the-barrel bottom feeders, and will only give us the scraps.

So is it a problem with the world, or us? We are built to be adaptive to the outside conditions. Lack of adaptation means death, extinction. And instead of adapting, I use my freedom to play by my own rules as long as resources permit.

There is a phenomenon in Japanese society called "herbivore men". Noncompetitive people who are not interested in sex and mostly take care only of themselves. Are we this?
There was also this rat utopia experiment that you might be familiar with, where some of the rats withdrew from participation in society entirely and become obsessed with their looks and well-being. I wonder if there's a connection.

The world is complicated.

I'd hate to deprive someone of an opportunity for a job or something else that is useful. But I have to, we have to screw over other people. There is no other way, is there?

I feel like I'm without love, or hate, like I have given up my will to power. The desires for wealth, status, recognition, attention. But what is there left for me without all that? Am I already dead?



I can relate to that.
I really enjoyed my time as a neet.
There is no love or hate …hell not even sadness.
At the same time I feel no guilt or remorse.
You could say im forced to be sucessful -for the sake of it.

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What does it mean to be mature or childish?


Generally, I think maturity has something to do with self-restraint, and childishness with the opposite. That doesn't always mean not doing something; someone who cowers when being attacked might be considered childish, and someone who restrains their fear and fights back could be mature.
But it depends on whose standards you are going by.
And also what you're applying the terms to.

>: based on slow careful consideration <a mature judgment>
>a (1) : having completed natural growth and development : ripe (2) : having undergone maturation
>b : having attained a final or desired state <mature wine>
>c : having achieved a low but stable growth rate <paper is a mature industry>
>d : of, relating to, or being an older adult : elderly <airline discounts for mature travelers>
>a : of or relating to a condition of full development
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Oh, and the subtle asshole meanings, especially if someone is saying stuff like "You need to be more mature." or "He should stop being childish."

There, 'mature' basically means
>stop causing me trouble
>stop doing things that I consider weak
>do what I want you to do
>conform to my standards, traditions, and cultures
>respect/fear/obey me
and childish is the opposite,
>whatever causes me trouble
>whatever I consider weak
>whoever is not doing what I want
>anything strange, unusual, fun that doesn't benefit me
>anyone who respects/fears/obeys someone who is not me

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I think this distinction is largely based on culture. A quality may be viewed as mature, childish, or neither, depending on what it is and who you ask.

I would, however, argue that there are some objectively-verifiable distinctions between child and adult behavior. For example, the brain structures responsible for faculties such as self-control are less developed in children, giving them a more impulsive nature. Also, for children that haven't started going through puberty, they react very differently to the concepts of sex, romance, reproduction, etc.

I also agree with >>12430 on that the dichotomy is often used in unreasonable ways by people who really don't know what they're talking about.


I hate these words so much. So, so much. Truly. Because >>12430. Why, oh why, was I born into such a judgmental family?

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Hi /n/. I made a Yume Nikki board on 8chan.co if any of you are interested.

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Why don't you guys lurk before doing something?


You see? This is the inate problem of 8chan. Its "free to make" boards will seriously dilute any board and more to come.

8chan is a horrible, horrible site though I still lurk 2hu just because.


Eh, it's not so bad. People naturally stick around popular boards, and lots of unpopular boards just kinda die.


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I think the idea behind 8chan is really interesting but the actual process in motion is sort of "meh", imo.
Is there a way to search for certain keywords regarding the existence of boards for that subject?

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I really want at least someone to talk to, but I always find myself too anxious, emotional, or generally uncomfortable to actually handle interactions.
I know there's an IRC here, and people make skype groups, but I really can't handle group conversations, and I can rarely handle 1-on-1 conversations. I usually end up getting upset, scared, or just being unable to continue the conversation. Starting up other ones is difficult too.. It's very frustrating, and I feel dumb for having so many issues with such a basic part of existing.
I really just don't know what to do, do any of you have tips on handling it?
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I have been told by people that salvation will only come from within, and no place else. So that made me isolate myself from everyone. Just waiting for the day I am good enough inside to love others. But it's been years and I've actually gone in the other direction, while everyone else on the planet gets to enjoy human contact, love and warmth. Is it so wrong to make friends even if I am a monster?

To answer your question OP, I have no idea, but going my mental and physical state, I'm taking it pretty badly. Don't be like me. Even if you feel like nobody will love you, you can't let yourself believe that.


>Is it so wrong to make friends even if I am a monster?
I can't help but feel like your just some angsty teen suffering from, I dunno, teenage angst?


>I have been told by people that salvation will only come from within, and no place else.
Indeed, in the end if you are not at peace with yourself you will struggle with yourself sooner or later.
What else do can you possibly hope for to make you content with being you?
I feel the same way and im not some teenager.


What happened was that, I ignored the anger inside as a teenager and only got to feel it after high school ended. It upsets me, you know. Way behind on development. People struggle with it in their youth but eventually see it for what it is, take responsibility, and live their lives.

A monster, and also a child, hasn't grown up at aLl. If my conviction is, "everything I touch dies", what am I even doing trying to approach another person?


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How did you two become friends?

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