/n/ - NEET

>tfw all the people I talked with in the /n/ IRC are all gone

Well, it may be my fault for not having any means of contact and stopping going there for a while.

Hope you find your friend, anon.

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>>13760
Your information is really non-specific. It'll be hard to track someone down with only this much.

I did this repeatedly—pretty much every fucking subject. Maybe people like us need to experience a menial job to realise the value of education. I'm NEET again now but I will be applying for shitty jobs soon. I'm going to save up enough money to go back in a few years and make a proper attempt, unlike what I did in undergrad.

>>14490
>I did this repeatedly—pretty much every fucking subject. Maybe people like us need to experience a menial job to realise the value of education.
This, holy shit. Some people just need a few months of job experience to fully realize how they will end up should they fail their studies.

Good luck on your serious attempt, anon.

>>14491
>This, holy shit. Some people just need a few months of job experience to fully realize how they will end up should they fail their studies.
Fear-mongering? I refuse to believe that the universe is this cruel. There must be a way to live doing things I want to do. Otherwise, why, why.

>>14544
And more importantly what makes you guys think that jobs the need college eductaion are easier or more rewarding?
I mean sure its not some shitty menial labor job, but still many higher occupations are tough as balls and those that arent involve high levels of skill, disciplne and enteprenuerism.

Next time this happens get adderall from the darknet

>>14544
There is a way to live doing the things you want. Its called being born really fucking rich.
>>14545
Have you ever worked in retail? Anything, no matter how hard it is, is more rewarding than that. And those jobs you speak of that require a high amount of skill and entrepreneurial tact are actually interesting.

I'm 28. The thing about age is that it keeps going even if you do nothing, and doing nothing is what a NEET is best at.

>>14291

48, been a NEET shut-in for 1.5 years, 2 years shut-in prior to that.

WTF with the "street person" thing. For god's sake we're shut ins, not poor.

>>14512
What drove you to become a NEET shut-in?

>>14512

I was half jokingly implying that NEETs who outlive their parents usually end up homeless, because they presumably haven't been working for many years, don't have any substantial savings, and are deemed unemployable by that time because of their age combined with lack of education and work history.

Obviously not everyone who identifies with the term NEET meets that criteria, and I realize that. Hell, I'm envious of those who don't.

Anyway, if you wouldn't mind sharing, what circumstances have allowed you to live as a middle aged NEET shut-in without being poor?

I am 27; 28 next month.

Dropped out of college back in 2007, and did some background extra work sporadically until 2009, and then did 15 hours in a convenience store. Was moved out into small apartment in 2010, where I have simply existed, ever since!

I took great advantage of isolation to begin with, beating lots of good games and stuff, but ultimately became deranged and sort of nonsensical and out of my mind. I ended up looking for lots of psychiatric help, and talked for hours to countless people, but nothing was ever "done" and so it was just the talking as therapy in the end. Actually helped, I guess, as getting out a lot of my childhood issues stopped them from "formulating" inside me any longer, and now I don't even remember what I would have brought up had I gone to the doctors.

I stopped visiting weed dealers in early 2011, but smoke weed I find on the ground (there is a lot of weed smoked around here) and that is completely fine with me. I get high for free, but without any schedule attainable, I live a less weedbound and much more freeform life, these days. For some years now it's just been me, extremely aware of a slow reality, in this apartment.

I read and post online, while uploading music/videos of photos I take to various sites to share the creative things I *do* still manage to conjure up (harder than ever to make things, these days.)

I used to post here, even, but have only just dropped in to leave a relic of my passing, after many untold months.

I have 1 AFK friend from high school whom I hang with maybe once a month, and my dad maintains textual communication via his iPhone and emails, to my great irritation on many occasions, which he will never be aware of, because he does not live here to see how incensed I may become.

Hey, uboachan, how's it goin', you look thinner than I remember…
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>>14518
Eremites.

Wait, you don't have a family or someone else to support you financially?

I think most young people in underdeveloped countries rely on their families to help them until they are ready to live on their own, and so it is not unheard of for them to live with their parents far into their thirties.

I don't think you're gonna find a starting job that is high-paying, not exhausting, or both.

Say mods, I believe OP is violating a rule by being under 18.

>>14520
>probably
You have no idea.

>>14521
I personally have seen many people underage on this board, I didnt think age was under global rules, I really dont want to be banned for anything I didnt know since this is one of the few places on the web I really like

>>14522
>I personally have seen many people underage on this board

Where?

>>14522
See you in three years bro.

>>14523
pages back, random posts where people mention there age

Low level (unarmed) security. This involves, at most, taking walks every hour and checking people in. At best, you can find an overnight position where you can sit around with your laptop all day. I have one such job. The dream is real.

>>14290
Well, my landscaping experience limits itself to a golf course and I was in a small team of 15 full time workers.
I would mow greens every morning for 4-5 hours, and the rest was whatever job was needed to be done, from laying sod and cleaning tree wells to shoveling new sand into bunkers. It hard on my body at first but I got used to it. The people I met there were also super relaxed, enjoying the sunlight, taking care of plants, drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes while talking about TV shows or old movies.

It all comes down to luck to be honest, but I wouldn't recommend applying to jobs for landscaping contractors as those can be a lot more stressful(but you might get more money). I'm not trying to be rude here, but maybe what you need is a "mundane" job where you take care of things. Maybe it will do you good as much as it did for me.

>>14290
>night stocking!
Don't be fooled I use to be a night and second shift stocker. Night shift sounds like it would be easy going but its so much harder since no customers are in the store you do all the major stocking then. I did easily a third less work on second shift then on third, that being said it wasn't easy enough to keep me from being fired after 14 weeks.

IT support?

>>14294
that's basically what happened with my last job. i had a mental breakdown from the stress and earned myself a discharge.

>>14468
maybe, i would probably enjoy it more, since you aren't interacting with customers…

>>14296
that sounds amazing. i have all sorts of military experience, so i might be able to find a job like this.

>>14492
the is too similar to the troubleshooting on my last job. all thought processes quelled to focus on solving problems. i think this is worse than hard labor. at least during hard labor you are able to think freely.

Well if you're not happy, there is no science you have to change your shit sir.
There is this invisible villian, time, time is a bitch, if you keep this going it will eat months or years of your life with lots of things that you would have wanted to do and you won't recover it, sure you can try to do these things, but it's not the same, if time eats a part of your life, it's gone.
You know what you need, motivation, you have no ambitions or "things to do things for".
Can you imagine how you would be happy? A goal
A family? Maybe economical freedom? Nothing?

If you have no reason to motivate you to live, What if you make finding this reason your motivation?

If anything, you're not ok as NEET, and time is eating you, so anything, watever even if it's stupid is better than staying there playing games.
I don't know, don't ask me I'm a dog.

Sorry to interject, since I'm not a NEET, but if that doesn't bother you then I can tell you what I did. I hope it helps you in some way.

During and after High School I felt like you. I still do; zero motivation for anything, applying only the minimum effort possible and trying to interact as little as I can. I love computers and spent most of my life in front of one, either with games, anime or learning, so I decided that if I wanted to do something, it should be related to either hardware or software. As probably many of us, I thought it would've been nice to work in the game industry, but I really lack imagination and motivation to work in such projects, and I really wouldn't be able to cope with working on a team with other people, and, as you can see, working alone isn't a possibility since I can't really do music and/or find a goal as to what accomplish as to really get some demo or something.
Either way, I enjoy fixing and working with computers, or generally being around them. It's really nice, people don't really bother you unless they're interested in what's going on (if you want them to go away you just have to talk 1337), and you're basically your own boss. I then just checked what careers in college could get me involved me with them and found Electronic Engineering as the only option. Since I don't have too much problems with math and physics (which seems to be the "hard" part), it seemed worth to give it a shot, and the word "engineer" holds some kind of mystical value in nowadays society, so it was a plus.

Truth be told, I really don't know what I'm really going to do after I finish this stuff. There is an Atomic Center here in my city, and I've heard they're taking ex-students who finished college to work there, but I have the impression that it's going to be really stressful and I'm not sure if I will be able to make it. It feels more like I'm making excuses with these "life projects" so people don't bother me rather than doing what something for myself. Being honest, I hardly doubt I will make it after my 30's. I really dislike how this stuff is organized, and I'd rather be alone doing nothing.
However, here in my country I get paid for going to college, so that too is an extra help (for which I'm pretty grateful). And learning new things is good too, even when I look around and realize I'm alone while everybody is in their own circles. While it doesn't bother me, it just makes me realize at what point I'm slowlPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>often when I go sleep now I feel like I am pitiful being a burden to my parents
Good. That's the right thing to feel.

>I can't say I am enjoying it nor dislisking it because of how I was kind of enjoying doing what is fun to me aka video games and watching animes mainly but seems like endless circle
It is an infinite cycle.
Remember: your (and everyone else's) subconscious mind actively rejects all change in behavioral patterns, unless it finds a new pattern that offers stronger, more immediate gratification.

>I don't know what I should do anymore
They say the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.
Are you not OK with where you are in life? I know I enjoy wasting my time on internet/computer stuff and video games. It wasn't until I found my first (really boring) job that I started to think I deserved a bit more from life and had to try doing something about it.

Until you know clearly what you want and realize that you really want it, I don't think there can be any meaningful change.

Problem: you're an insufferable little bitch.

Sol: pursue your goals with conviction and enthusiasm, even if those goals are sitting at home and watching anime for the rest of your life.

>>14350
At first I was thinking you were just being a dick, but at the end I actually found it quite positive and I think I needed that, even if my goal is to be a neet, fucking go for it and dont be sad

Instead of being here making a new thread asking that, you could be studying.
The answer is no.

>>14485
I like Souseiseki.

Moved to >>>/ot/12790.

I want to start setting smaller, more realistic goals for myself. I keep having these grandiose dreams of being an independent game developer and a great programmer, but those leave me with no clear way to reach them, which only results in despair and getting nowhere.

I'm going to keep living and being content in this moment. The future and the past are just stories we tell ourselves.
Stop futuretripping, dude.

>>14448
That didn't work out so well for me. Life started feeling meaningless without some greater goal (that I might achieve sometime in the future) in sight to work towards.

Go hang round weirdos in the desert again. Write.
Work?
Honestly if I don't get out doing something I'm just inevitably going to have a breakdown, I can tell, so yeah, time to do that.

Sometimes you just have to travel.

I've read that taking the same amount of food and splitting it into more meals per day will raise your metabolism and help you lose weight naturally. If you eat too little it's your muscle mass that goes first.

>>14436
Bothof those are bullshit.
You can't raise or slow your metabolism as you please. It does vary depending on your muscle tone but by as little as 50-200 calories. That's about the amount in a waffle cup of vanilla ice cream.

Your body only starts eating muscle primarily after your fat storage is depleted. That's why anorexia is so deadly, you can literally eat your heart. Other than extreme restriction (less than 500 calories for months) will not lead to any significant muscle loss.

>>14439
>Both of those are bullshit.
Actually, the "taking the same amount of food and splitting it into more meals per day" is true. Some athletes eat every 3 hours smaller amounts of their "normal share" and supply the "lack" with more stuff that compensates the nutrients their body need for they sports. The thing is, the size of this share, and what food they're eating (which helps to incorporate said nutrients) are decided by a nutritionist which knows how many calories their patients use and what their body need, so that's why it doesn't work for most of people, since they actually don't know exactly what they're getting from what they eat.
(If anything, the part about regulating the metabolism isn't true; at least I don't really think it holds such power).

>>14440
Athletes [like bikers or runners] need to eat often because they are burning many calories and need the food to not pass out while exercising. But let's be honest, most of us are not athletes or physical laborers and don't need super frequent meals for performance, or as many calories as an athlete is eating.

Either way, I feel like I'm hogging the thread at this point. OP, you still there?

>>14442
>Athletes [like bikers or runners] need to eat often because they are burning many calories and need the food to not pass out while exercising.
Actually, some models do this too, but I suppose they also exercise as needed.

Yeah, we're derailing the thread too much. I will restrain until OP shows up and tells us what he thinks.