/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

>w/ gf
This is your problem.

Leave your girlfriend and go back to NEETing.

I agree with them.

become a millionaire

>>1507
Literally this, drop her and a big portion of that time and money will come back to you.

And yeah working sucks, I know how it feels. I started working last week and im already sick of it, no matter how I look at it it seems this was my last neet period of my life, from now on it's all either working or studying. No more taking it easy and that depresses me to no end, i've thought about killing myself due to this, might sound exagerated but im not going to live to pay bills while doing house chores with just a few hours left for myself on weekends, watching my life fly by in a flash of saturdays and sundays.

You can't sustain yourself well enough to make games or be taken seriously as a NEET. You earn your free time, you're not old enough to stop working yet.

>>1548
It's really got nothing to do with age

>>1549
Age usually equates time available to put into a career. I know very few 20 something year olds who can come anywhere close to retiring.

>>1551
I think that one person's idea of what usually happens is a part of their reality and may have no bearing on another person.

Maybe get a job you like?

>>1552
Fighting the way success is meant to be obtained in this country or presumably any country is difficult. It's very hard to not be dragged down by capitalism or whatever system you're a slave to when trying to do anything else but become another cog in the wheel praying for retirement.

>>1553
Not so easy with this current job market condition but a lot of former NEETs I know like security guard work something to consider it's simple enough if you can get into it that is.

A few years ago I also lived in an apartment with a girlfriend and had a job. Like you, it drove me nuts to have so little time and someone constantly in my personal space and making perfectly reasonable demands on the little time I had left over. I broke up with her eventually and quit the job.

Now I've constructed an almost ideal mostly-NEET existence for myself. I rather like it, but I couldn't honestly recommend it to anyone as it would probably make most people depressed.

I have a part-time online job for a few hours most weekdays, and I have enough money saved up that that's all I'll ever really need for my whole life. I've been pretty much a shut-in for several years now. I don't have any IRL friends. I doubt there's a realistic way to live long-term as a NEET without losing your social connections and becoming mostly reclusive, but that's how I wanted to live anyway.

I do the same mostly solitary hobbies I've been doing my whole life (anime, games, reading, etc) but now I can do them whenever I want, as much as I want. That part is great. The downside is that if you're not introspective enough and mostly immune to loneliness you'll probably become very depressed and not have any real idea of the reasons or what to do about it.

The other problem is that there isn't as much to do as you might think, so you need to be VERY good at enjoying the simple things in life and not asking for more. If you think you'd make games or write stories or do some other creative thing as a long-term NEET, I'd be willing to bet you never would, or maybe make a few small things and then give up. The reason for this is that there is no real reason to do any kind of work in this lifestyle, even as a hobby. People work on things and achieve things, even hobbies, either for money or for social recognition, to share with friends, etc. Lacking those motivations, you quickly find that there really isn't any point, and doing passive hobbies like reading or just hanging out online is always strictly superior at all times.

YMMV as to whether this would be a workable life, but I think most people would hate it. Which is probably good since it's also really hard to save up enough money to make it work in any case.

>>1615
>The other problem is that there isn't as much to do as you might think, so you need to be VERY good at enjoying the simple things in life and not asking for more. If you think you'd make games or write stories or do some other creative thing as a long-term NEET, I'd be willing to bet you never would, or maybe make a few small things and then give up. The reason for this is that there is no real reason to do any kind of work in this lifestyle, even as a hobby. People work on things and achieve things, even hobbies, either for money or for social recognition, to share with friends, etc. Lacking those motivations, you quickly find that there really isn't any point, and doing passive hobbies like reading or just hanging out online is always strictly superior at all times.
Yeah I find this to be very true. I do have a desire to make creative work, but only in the context that a future boyfriend would like it. Because of this I often find it difficult to do this sort of work due to a lack of bf and an abstract purpose of "well you'll be better in the future."

What do you do for work? Surveys or something like that? I have a vague desire to make money in my life if it would make the boyfriend happy but I can't see myself dating someone that would matter to. I currently live on less than $1000 a month alone and would be able to see that continue for the rest of my life if inflation wasn't a thing. It's more important to me to produce creative work and build skills.

>>1617
Yep, this is my feeling exactly. I spend lots of time thinking about things like happiness and motivation, since very few people are likely to have much useful advice for someone in my situation and with my personality, so I really have to figure out everything about how to live my life on my own.

The "abstract purpose" thing really hits the nail on the head. So far I've mostly come to the conclusion that even normal people are never really motivated by abstract goals like that, even things like "getting good at this creative thing". They may think they are, but in reality what seems to get people through the day and makes them happy is doing things with friends (usually working, sometimes just hanging out), fulfilling family obligations, or even just paying the rent as motivation. The abstract stuff is just kind of window dressing people put on their lives to give it a feeling of context and structure. I guess this isn't a particularly new or bold psychological idea, but it's pretty relevant to the NEET life and it's interesting to think about. Humans are actually pretty simple creatures with simple needs, I think.

I do online math/science tutoring for work. I'd rather not go into details for privacy, but you can easily find various services like that with google. It's actually really good work if you can get it, and requires virtually no social interaction outside of teaching, which makes it ideal for me.

>>1618
Thanks, that's a nice lead if I'm ever in need of some new way to make money.

>>1617
>>1619
I'm going to shill for a sec, but I have been cloudmining crypto-currencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum and supported a pretty modest NEET existence for a few months now. Again, this isn't exactly a get rich scheme, but it is effortless income. I also don't think mined cryptos are taxed yet. If you're not familiar look up BTC exchanges and create an online wallet to exchange for USD/EUR/whatever and use coinbase to buy bitcoin.
https://hashocean.com/?rid=618707

>>1637
You'll have to explain to me why a company would want to lease its hardware to people for less than it would supposedly generate in profit. Maaaaaagic?

Mining is one of the worst choices. If you don't have a good computer it will take a shit ton of time to mine something and you will lose more money in the end by paying the power expenses.
Not worth it. You'd earn more by selling loli manga on dark streets to desperate males.

>>1639
Trufax. Unless you got somebody else paying your power bill, the electric expenses are far greater than income gained. If you hit it hard when it first came out, you're rather rich now, but the pickings are very slim these days.

Recently I started a job out of the blue a few months back. Unlike all the other jobs I've had in the past, this one is creative and part of the artistic community. I'm exposed to the public each night (usually 300-500 people). Before this I was in severe solitude on and off for over a decade. Each and every night I'm anxious and hell but the job always goes smoother than expected. The rotating patrons like me and think I'm a delight. Coworkers love me and know I'm a fun yet odd person.

The problems lies in me craving that NEET lifestyle. Sure it's miserable, but god is it comfortable.

>>1642
Good for you anon! Everyone, this is an example of someone who successfully changed their reality.

>>1643
Now is not the time.
>>1642
Man, that's nice. I hope things continue to go well for you.

>>1643
>>1644
Changed reality or not, it's a weird place to be. I'm surrounded by people but still pretty lonely. I've always got this feeling of wanting to connect with people while also being scared of them.

>>1645
Most people aren't going to connect with you fully, but somewhere someone will and if you take the chance you might just find them.

I do lament my loneliness at times, its healthy at times. But in the end I just usually decide that most people arent right for me, but are probly right for someone else, and wish them well, and move on.

>>1683
I've made some really close connections in the past few months. Art has this habit of attracting people who are broken or just a little off. I'm not looking for a relationship or anything like that, I just want to shake this feeling of ever-present loneliness.

>>1687
To me I think that comes from kind of random chance. Someone can be close but sometimes there's an A-Ha moment with those people that changes your world.

Also who knows it might be a chemical imbalance.

>>1687
>Art has this habit of attracting people who are broken or just a little off
God, yes. I love it.
Academia as well, in some circles.

>>1547
no kidding you guys if dating is annoying, don't do it. i don't.

i love working?? but i only do so part time. i get bored and restless when i am not.

im still neet losers! check me my mom got me this melon and cut it for me! haha

>>3637
Why stop here? You were being creative a while back in those last few threads.

It's funny how well this connects with another thread where some guy brags about how he improved his life and left neetdom. Thanks for taking the time in your busy schedule to visit here despite the possibility of, "slipping into old habits". Honestly, keep the job, loose the girl. What's the point of some nagging nuisance who probably asks you to buy things and only puts out when she feels like it like she's doing you some kind of inconvenient favor. Your job may take a lot of time, but domestic time is golden and shouldn't be wasted on something that you don't enjoy. Can you seriously see yourself marrying her and being tied down for the decades to come? Imagine if you want a divorce. Think of all the money that will be taken from you.

>>1505
You could make your videogame making hobby into a something you get paid for , for example you set up a patreon account for donations.
Its not much money but it could help , maybe could even become a sustainable method of living if you get enought patrons

>>1505
Don't listen to the anons telling you to drop your gf. I've been in a relationship for 2 years now and it's literally the only thing that has prevented me from spiraling even more. The problem isn't her, it's your job. Find a way to work less so you have more time to yourself.

>>1505
>I'm still not happy
There's some root problem you're not adressing.

>>6529
>The problem isn't her, it's your job. Find a way to work less so you have more time to yourself.

He did say best case scenario is become neet and keep GF rather than NEET and drop GF or have or NEET and no GF

>>6559
I felt the need to reiterate I guess because other posters were telling him to drop his girlfriend and I think this is a bad idea.

>>1505
Had this life and was not happy, but returning to NEET life isnt the answer

>>6529
bad advice