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Uboachan's scanlation group Patchy Illusion Team has just released two new Yume Nikki Doujins: In the Shallows and Refrain. You can see all of our previous releases here.

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 No.1913[Reply]

I want to create a game about my dreams. There are a couple ways I can do this:

> A) RPG Maker game

> B) Source engine (hl2 engine) mod, all dreams tied together into one long story
> C) Source engine individual maps for each dream

What do you guys think?
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 No.1925

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>>1924
Fun fact: Everybody dreams.

 No.1926

>>1925
I forget most of mine :(

 No.1927

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>>1926
Read this: http://www.lucidity.com/NL11.DreamRecall.html (or this http://www.dreammoods.com/dreaminformation/recallingdreams2.htm if it's hard to read the other one). It may take some time, but you’ll gradually recall them better.

 No.1930

>>1927
thanks anon!

 No.1954

>>1913
That'd be cool, One made in source engine could be kind of like LSD dream emulator, I know this isn't a fangame, but this seems more up /fg/'s alley



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 No.1952[Reply]

(Pic completely unrelated)



Dreams have always been kind of weird for me.
I tend to have dreams all over the place, I dreamed a lot more as a kid, and I don't that much now. If i do, I don't remember.
Thankfully, I haven't had any nightmares recently.
But my dreams are very realistic, as in, there things that could happen in my real life.
I've had dreams where my fiance left me, or we had a huge fight, or dreams where I just can't find him.
Last night I actually had one of these dreams, I was at our soon to me graduation ceremony, and I was doing some random preparations. The only reason I see for this is because we graduated just last month.
But anyway, the whole dream was just that I lost him in the crowd and couldn't find him.
I have a lot of dreams like that.
Thats not to say though I don't have good ones, I recently drempt of our soon to be wedding, which was lovely.
I guess you're seeing a pattern eh?
Yeah almost 100% of my dreams have my fiance in them.
Probably because he means so much to me!


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 No.1944[Reply]

I was literally just browsing /fg/ on uboachan in my dream, I kid you not. I had dug in to a lot of older posts on /fg/ I hadn't seen before where most of everything was incomplete, but I found one "joke" game that was just someone's completed fangame with a troll chipset.
I downloaded it and by accident, replaced the chipset with a really pretty one that magically filled all the requirements for the chipset because dreams are strange. Everything in the chipset is pastels and there are a lot of flower themes.
The game opens on a screen where your only option is to go up into razor wire and get your legs cut off and then it resets, and you do it again. You go up several times until the character is dragged by some unseen force to the title screen. And on the title screen the girl just sits there and dolls march toward her from both sides and disappear when they reach her. The final set of dolls has a somewhat mangled toy dog face on them.
When you hit new game and someone walks up to you and says its time to go home, so your character gets up and begins walking home, and this part of the dream gets really hazy because supposedly it's still a game, but I've switched to my "real world" perspective.
On my way home I talk to a 7 year old kid and… accidentally bring him home with me. That's not suspicious at all, no way. Thanks, dreams.
So, at this point I had accidentally brought like a 7 year old to my apartment that I double lock the front door to (because at one point someone through rocks in and nearly killed me, so I'm some paranoid hikkikomori)
The kid sees the state of my life and tries to teach me life lessons and stuff but I'm not buying it. To prove a point he goes into the back yard over my balcony and fucking fights the neighbor's goat. Me being the asshole I am, set a 10 minute alarm because I don't intend to watch, and if the alarm goes off and he's not back he's probably dead, I assume.
But I watch him the entire time and the fight takes long enough that the fucking alarm goes off while I'm watching and I look at it and then up to the kid and it puts me at unease.
And since dreams are inconsistent, the balcony is now a window at ground level and goat is dog. He pushes the 'dog' closer to the window and I start assisting in the fight and eventually tell it "hey goat," (Why does the goat have dog paws? It only occurred to me when I woke up.) "I'll trade you to get (boy's name that I forgot) back by showing Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1945

It's a signal; you have to make a fangame about this.
It has all you need: deepness, strangeness, and memes.
It's perfect.



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 No.1943[Reply]

Recently I had a dream that sparked up my interest in Yume Nikki again. Mostly because of how similar the situation was to Yume Nikki. I dunno tell me what you guys think…

So basically, I was in my car driving at night on a really dark, in the middle of nowhere road, (you know those ones with no houses, just surrounded by trees) and all of a sudden my headlights went out. I could still drive though. I saw a bright flashing light ahead of me on this narrow road, and though I probably should have avoided it I kind of just continued to drive into it. As the light got closer, I made out the image of what was coming toward me and it wasn't a car. It actually was a giant skull. Not like a cartoon one that's all white and shiny… this was like, a really dirty skull, with rotting skin still on it that was slowly peeling off. The skull was HUGE bigger than my car actually, and the light I saw were coming from the sockets in it's eyes, but I couldn't really see into the eyes, as the light was blinding almost to the extent of the sun. It opened it's decaying mouth as I got closer and before I could even slam on the brakes I was swallowed by it. Inside of it wasn't really a stomach or even anything that seemed related to the skull. It was just another road. But not a normal road, the road was pink, it looked kind of like stone. It was just floating in a black abyss. My car stopped moving and when I looked behind me there was no opening, or teeth where the skull swallowed me. It was just a cliff where the road ended. If I reversed my car an inch I would have fallen. So I instead just started to follow the pink road forward for what seemed like an hour, until I eventually woke up…

I don't know what it means but it reminded me so much of Yume Nikki, and I still don't know what's at the end of the pink windy road floating in the abyss. I'm wishing to have this dream again sometime so I can figure out what's at the end…

I dunno, I just thought this was the best place to leave this… Tell me what you guys think.


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 No.1942[Reply]

I seem to keep having this problem of not knowing whether i'm actually lucid dreaming or if i'm just dreaming i am. I had a dream last night we're i woke up from my "lucid dream" into another dream. This is what happened:

I was walking through a house, not my real house but it was my house in the dream and something felt off. So I walked into a room and tried switching the light on and off. Nothing happened which told me it was a dream(i had gotten this trick from waking life). Once i realized it was a dream (and this has happened multiple other times too) i started finding it hard to even move or do something. Like walk out the door. I have to like force myself into it. Sometimes as soon as i realize i just wake up. So anyway i went walking. once i got outside it wasn't hard to move anymore so i tried to change from barefoot to sneakers. But i couldn't do it only sorta half way did it. Then i woke up and was in another dream. I had tried to quickly write down my dream but couldn't seem to do it. So i went back to sleep and had another dream.


Has anyone had similar issues with having it hard to continue dreaming? The lucid parts were kinda like it was automatically happening but also i had a bit of control over it at least mentally (the entire dream and not like my actual dream self had control. like a puppet). I'm really not sure if it was real or not. What do you think? Is this still considered lucid dreaming?


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 No.1935[Reply]

I used to have control over my dreams. For some odd reason, I don't have that control anymore. And my dreams kind of suck now. I remember them but not much happens in them. My dreams used to be very vivid and full of life and now it's just dull and lifeless. So my question is, how would I go about fixing this?

 No.1938

If you're truly desperate for interesting dreams then you could put yourself under a lot of stress, since thats what spiced up my own dreams. But I wouldnt advise that.

 No.1939

>>1938
lol why would you even suggest that


OP, were you lucid dreaming before or just had control over it?
I can't into lucid dreaming (i've only tried a bit of WILDing unsuccessfully) but I'm able to control myself and have influence over certain things in my dreams.

 No.1941

>>1938
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work since I'm actually under more stress now than when I was a couple of months back. And back then my dreams were fine.
>>1939
A bit of both. Sometimes I had complete control over what I was dreaming, and other times I could only control a couple things while I was dreaming. I can control some things now(like being able to fly and stuff). My dreams just aren't really stimulating.



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 No.1918[Reply]

I had a pretty cool dream the other day. I was in a "maze-game" show that was kind of like being trapped in a giant, indiana jones themed ant's nest without the ants. There were chambers that me and a random person from school that was next to me had to either kill everything that was inside the chamber(they were just birds or these weird, evil, flying stressballs like in the pic), or just observe what was in it. The thing is, we could have technically not have done anything and just moved on and won, but for some reason we had do do something in each of them. The only thing we could do in these chambers were fight off the monsters with our bare hands or simply pass by. We could not explore them because the only accessible parts were a single pathway that was fenced on one side (we could see the entire chamber from out of the fence) and had a wall of rock on the other side, as if we were in an orb-shaped zoo. The dark, staircase tunnels that connected all of the chambers were all marked by a green EXIT sign, even though they infinitely led into another, similar chamber. I never won the game show. All the chambers just led into almost identical ones until I woke up. In fact the only reason for there being a game show was because when the dream started I thought "I'm in a game show" but other than that there was no evidence for it. Weird dream but I liked it.


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 No.1904[Reply]

It has taken me a while to get myself to write this, and I don't feel all that inspired at the moment, but considering how obsessive I can be, if I don't just get this down and wait for a "perfect time", it will never happen.

For years now I have wanted to make a dream game. I would call it a Yume Nikki fangame but it will not be conservative and probably borrow very little from Yume Nikki, even though it is a huge inspiration (if that makes sense). I approached it from a few different angles. I decided it was going to be in 3D, and will contain many of my personal, recurring dream worlds. My ambition for this makes it a kind of "pet project" that everyone should just assume will never see the light of day.

Yume Nikki 3D by Zykov Eddy was important in giving me an art direction. My visions had previously been too good; I mean, the graphics would have taken too long to do anything useful with in a reasonable amount of time. The eduke 3D engine was quite perfect for Zykov Eddy's game, and the fact that it was free software was also a plus. The graphics were pleasing enough to look at, but did not require too much time or ingenuity, and the vagueness even added to it for obvious reasons.
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 No.1906

You know how, mostly in free-roam games, there may be hundreds of houses which you cannot enter? The designers simply can't put so much time and money and hard drive space into readily filling up all those places. Neither can my brain in making dream worlds, although I can still enter random doors and have them lead somewhere. Sometimes I appear in a heavily modified version of my own house, maybe with a new character inside. Other times I appear in other dream worlds that take place in buildings, like this one mansion with infinite staircases. Sometimes I just get a generic, small room. Sometimes when I leave, I appear where I left off, I guess my brain kind of saved a pointer or something. Other times I may appear somewhere else, maybe random, maybe where I would normally appear, such as if I leave an area that looks like my house, I may appear in an area outside my house. I would still like it to be mostly linear in the sense that you can go from one place to another without too much randomness, and you can explore all (most) of the dream worlds without dumb luck, where A tends to lead to B and so forth. But there are also cases where this randomness will simulate real dreams much better. This is another example of LSD Dream Emulator getting an idea correctly, just maybe not implementing it the best it could.

So the chances of going from one place to another, and the chances of an area mutating this way of that, with these colors or these other worlds getting added or chopped up or associated near it, where does this come from? Well, I think that we can treat the structure of dreams in a similar manner to music theory, color theory, and some parts of information theory, where we analyze and take things that tend to be true, and then treat it as if it were inherently true. There will be randomness involved to decide things, but decisions wills be skewed based on statistic or intuition. Musicians studying the Baroque period will take Bach's Counterpoint methods as something that is "correct". Music, as all art, is of course subjective, but if something sounds good 90% of the time, it is useful to treat it as if it were true, and then further build from there. If you were to teach a machine to make Chorales, you would make it usually make its chord progression something like
I - IV - viio - iii - vi - ii - V - I
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 No.1907

>>1905
I didn't mean to spoil those parts, those should have been bolded, whoops.

Anyway,
What do you guys think? Am I way off base here? You don't need to post anything about it never getting done; it's a personal project that I want to share with people also interested in dreams. At the very least I would like to formalize some algorithms I think would be useful, which is now one of the main focuses of this project. There are many ideas and details I have for the game outside of this but I feel that discussing the way dreams tend to work is more interesting and useful for you guys.

I have a domain and a webserver ready for a kind of shrine I was going to make for Madotsuki, mostyly as a a joke and as an educational experience but maybe I could set it up for you guys if you're interested in this project. I also have an archive of yume nikki and its many fangames in the works that I could post and expand with all of your help, if that also sounds interesting to you. I haven't set up the domain to my webserver yet because I currently have the worst ISP problem ever and it just isn't viable yet but it hopefully will be soon.

 No.1910

I think most of your ideas sound pretty good and generally accurate to what I've experienced in dreams. Especially in regards to how your brain just sort of "knows" things in dreams, even if you'd have no way of knowing it. Knowing where you are, knowing a particular dream characters name & history, etc. That doesn't seem to be something people tend to touch on when discussion dream and dream theory. Not that I've seen at least.

I think it's also important to remember that everybody has their own dream patterns as well. I for example will often times dream of familiar houses and buildings but there will be extra rooms or the layout will be slightly modified. My mother on the other hand, dreams that she's in existing places but the internal layout will be completely different, and often times the rooms will be arranged in grid patterns or even open up to entire forests or oceans. However taking into account everybody elses dream patterns might not be your goal here, since its a personal project you might only want to try and account for your own. Or maybe you're going for more a generic one-size-fits-all dreamscape. In which case I'd advise you to discuss other people's patterns and not work off the assumption that your own dreams are a sort of "default". It's ultimately your project though and you're free to do as you feel is best for it.

As for the websites, I for one would definitely be interested in following a project like this. Maybe wait for more people to speak up though, don't want to pay for hosting if only 1 person is going to be looking at it after all!

 No.1911

>>1910
>In which case I'd advise you to discuss other people's patterns and not work off the assumption that your own dreams are a sort of "default".

Very good point, I should make an effort to try and make things more general. I would like to have others' inputs on this, maybe in a more formalized way, so that a program could "learn" off of the way people generally dream. Some kind of statistical model, you know? My mother has told me about the way her dreams work too, and they can be quite different from mine, but equally as fascinating.

As for the website, I would at least like to share my Yume Nikki archive project with people, even if this dream project isn't as popular. Maybe I should post about that in another place, like the Yume Nikki General board? I'm also a bit worried about this thread getting less attention by being on this board, but I figured I ought to put it here rather than the fangames board since this isn't as "concrete" yet.

Thanks for your input, there are so many questions I need to think about with this project

 No.1912

>>1911
I wish you luck in your project, I do agree that this board isn't the ideal place to discuss it, considering how slow it is. This is really the only board I visit so I wouldn't know which other ones to put it on if you're looking for more traffic, I'm also not sure how strict the mods are on content being directly related to the board it's posted on. I assume since you're posting this on uboachan then you're mostly looking for people with a familiarity to yume nikki to discus this with? Perhaps you should venture out to some of the other yume nikki sites? I'm sure there are more than just uboachan, and I'm sure there's some pretty significant overlap between the userbases of one site to another. It may be easier that way rather than waiting for the few bites on here. Once your project gets off the ground tumblr is actually an excellent site for posting updates and screenshots on.

Again, good luck, hope you can get this all figured out.



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 No.1909[Reply]

I usually have very mundane dreams, however there are a few that have stood out to me in their oddness.

I've heard dreams have meaning, the fuck could these mean?


A year or so back, I dreamed about being back at my middle school playground. It was completely empty and the sky looked just like it does before a bad storm. I remember it being relatively cool and windy. I was wearing sandals and for some reason I was chasing a seagull. As the seagull flies away, I look to my left and see a fat kid with his back to me.

Another strange dream I had was about being relocated by my family to a town called Meepo. It was on the mountain side and was only accessible through a narrow road, again, on a mountain side. When we got there, it was nighttime. The town was mostly devoid of inhabitants, and though every place was lit up, all the houses were one room or two, and those had no furniture. There were no streets or anything of the sort, the house were connected by walkways or bridges.

Another dream I had is a bit of a weird one. I was back at my high school gym's locker rooms, except the shower area was a huge fucking maze. It was steamy as shit and for some reason there were guys fucking and blowing each other off. As I progressed further into the maze, it got darker and colder, and the guys started acting more and more strangely (keep in mind, the guys were high school seniors). At one point, three guys looked at me in one of the darker areas. I hurried back to the exit, and on the way back there was no one at all.

Finally, the strangest dream I had was about some weird abandoned building in Russia, I think. (Never been to Russia.) It was a weird, pool-like area, except the pool was extremely shallow, and went into some weird sort of rectangular holes that led somewhere, but were far too small to traverse comfortbaly. Above those holes were two windows. There was a remarkably large opening leading to another room, but as I stepped in it I felt I probably shouldn't be going too far and left. All the while, I heard a noise like a tap dripping water.


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 No.1908[Reply]

i had a dream where i was poniko, and madotsuki kept turning on and off the lights. instead of turning into uboa, i turned into monoko and i was like "give me a hug" and she did so.
jp (attempted)-
私はponikoた夢を見た、とmadotsukiはオンとライトオフ状態を維持。代わりにuboaに変わるのは、私はmonokoになって、私は「抱擁私を与える」ようなものだったと、彼女はそのようにした。


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