/yn/ - Yume Nikki General

Heh, you should see the discord server.

>>8930
I would randomise parts of the map when the save file is created or when the .exe is first ran to make it harder to use online walkthroughs. Might also open up some cool opportunities like a room that has a 1/600 chance of permanently existing in some remote location.

I like this idea, I think that one of the strongest points of yume nikki is its map design. Effects are really a side note, except when they have an effect on the world around them. I think what could be changed about yume nikki and other walking simulators is the replayablitiy of it, everyone has their own special experiences with the game, but for the most part those experiences are felt in the first playthough of the game. I like the idea of parts of the map randomly changing in subtle ways, ways that would be most noteable after becoming familiar with the maps in the first few playthroughs.

I also think that there could be some events that change the layout of the world. I like how the nexus equivalent in.flow changed sometimes, it made it feel like whenever I passed through it the areas might have changed in some way. This would also help replayablitity. Once you know where exactly each effect is in yume nikki it's easy to just make your way to them without paying as much attention to the maps as in the first playthough. Perhaps the order of effects acquired could change the maps or location of subsequent effects?

>Too much empty space
Totally disagree, I found empty space was essential to the game. Cutting the time between discoveries down would ruin the rush of finding something unique.

>Pointless/OP effects
I would have liked effects to do more than they currently do in specific areas just so players can experiment and find more new things. Having gamey progression where you need specific effects to progress wouldn't be terrible, but kind of counter-intuitive to how open YN is. Maybe there was a player who found the blonde hair a super interesting effect. The useless effects are cute, nice for adding personality.

>You cannot get anywhere without help.
The two pieces of advice I needed before starting was that there is an actual goal to the game (collecting effects). Most of the game's effects can easily be found if you actually explore the oddities. Having a walkthrough that

My biggest change would be making diagonal floors automatically move you diagonally so you don't have to wiggle your arrows to get through that checkerboard spot. Other than that the more streamlining you add the farther you stray from the point. The original animal crossing felt rewarding BECAUSE of the terribly slow functionality.

I would make the worlds non-looping (?) because it is a waste of time and at some point it makes me lose interest in playing.

>>9168
Samefag, there would be a map where you can only see the areas you have explored before. The map would be in the diary.

What do you plan on naming the game? I wanna see it when you show it off and I don't want it to be forever… 'lost'… in a way when this thread is archived or something

On checkeredtilepath2.html, there's a path missing, among some on other maps
But it's really great to see the maps in full, with animations, music and whatnot, proper kudos deserved

That's so cool

>>9196
holy hell this is awesome. what a great idea!

Yoooo that's so cool, I'll send this to my friends who are too lazy to download and play Yume Nikki lol

>>9196
OP this is so well made, great job! I think it would be cool to see a github repo of this

I loved it
I'm a loser neet too, i love the lack of dialogue I love the visual motifs, I love the designs I love it all

>>9188
Even if the game technically didn't have a story it has really fucking strong themes
The hands and eyes and sexual imagery are gonna stay with me
Part of me think I am overthinking every little detail but the fact so many images and themes appear so often means that thought was obviously put into this
I got lost a lot which I was fine with and I diiiiiid use a guide for the last few effects
I didn't see the ending coming at all and it felt abrupt but tbh in a dialogueless game what else ia there to do
I hated hell
The headless pregant women freaked me the fuck out too
Also I hate to admit this but I neber found the white dessert on my first playthrough
I felt a constant sense of dead but never like fear
I played the game at 8pm to calm down after a bad day on a whim and I beat it in 4 hours and then stayed up till 5 thinking and thinking and talking to my sister about it
I really really hope she didn't die
As a massive loser who saw herself too much in her I really wsnt the both of us to get a happy ending

I've just finished it, have been reading stuff about it now.
I think I actually found this game from this website
I was in a similar position to >>8797, I hadn't played anything that is fun for the same reasons as this before.
Anyway, at first I was very confused. I was somehow aware that it wasn't gonna be a "normal" game, but it took me a little bit to figure out what the game is about and how it works.
But then it was very nice, walking and exploring stuff. Finding deeper worlds. And I mean, the stop-light effects, that's pure genius!
The only thing that bothered me a little was the often returning feeling that I didn't figure something out, but luckily I didn't get obsessed over it. I say "luckily" because often this feeling was mistaken because some things in this game "just exist", like vending machines. Not a bad thing, just unusual to me. Another example of my wrong assumptions was that I thought the floating figures in the jungle were a puzzle, like I had to combine them in a special way to get somewhere/something or something like that.
I think this is a significant weakness of games with clever combos like this one partially (for me at least). It's very very cool when you figure something out on your own (for me it was the witch effect for example), but the possibilities of such mechanics are endless, so it's almost impossible to find all such things, plus it generates wrong expectations. Like me thinking the flute (which I found early on) would play some role at some point. It didn't. That didn't stop me from playing it to several npc's in hopes of something up until I read about it on the wiki.
Now of course, my personal stupidity, limited game experience and unfounded expectations are a big culprit in this. Just keep in mind that this is my subjective experience with the game
Once I finished looking through all the nexus worlds I had probably around 16 if not a few more effects, and I didn't know where to begin looking for the remaining bunch. I ended up using the wiki.
If I had made a map of every area I went to and kept track of the world-connections I could've probably found out many more autonomously, but to me this is not too fun. Following wiki instructions wasn't too bad but it does make it less immersive.
Finally, the ending. My first reaction was to laugh. I'm sorry. After gathering 24 effects, them appearing inPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Please don't kill yourself op

>>8791
Same here, op. It's like gravity.

Sounds like a weird theory and I've never heard of it before. If anyone locked her door, I think it would've been Mado herself.

>>9191
seen it mentioned a few times
iir it's what the manga actually went with(not that the manga is canon but it seemed to be believed by quite a few people)

>>9145
That's true. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the imagery in the game did have religious connotations, especially with the existence of Mayan/Paracas deities.

There are some forms of media that you'd think either referenced or inspired the game from the modern age, though it could just be coincidental

>>9153
Y'know, there was actually a pretty good analysis on /t/ (unheard of, I know. It was like one of the only salvageable posts on there) regarding some of the Peruvian imagery. Genuinely recommend going through it. A number of designs were directly pulled from Paracas textiles, most of which are directly symbolic of dreams and the mythology surrounding dreams in Paracas culture. I'm surprised nobody else has brought this up ever, but Madotsuki's sweater design looks strikingly similar to these military tunics worn by officers of the Sapa Incan military.

Among those, there are also various Japanese cultural references that I'm a little too tired to list off but most should be obvious if you've already gone through the game.

The reason why the discussion of this game is so limited (besides being old) is that everyone has a bad habit of trying to make massive stretches when discussing the game's imagery which lead to very personal, emotionally-charged and often very amateurish interpretations. When you only make interpretations that are nothing of worth, then I guess it's better not to discuss it seriously at all. That's why I find a lot of stuff like this riveting and I think it's depressing that this game's had little to no proper analysis done in the time it's been out.

>>9170
>That's why I find a lot of stuff like this riveting and I think it's depressing that this game's had little to no proper analysis done in the time it's been out.
Feel free to drop yours whenever you have some time, I guess.

>>9170
>I think it's depressing that this game's had little to no proper analysis done in the time it's been out.
There's an excellent one from 2013 (don't be confused by the upload date, the original was deleted) that I think it's unparalleled even to this day. Sadly, it was only in Spanish until recently the reuploader added English subtitles, so I think it's a perfect time to show it to the non-Spanish speaking community.
https://youtu.be/Rr3-va41TUU

On the topic of this thread, the user who made this analysis also talked about the possible inspirations for the game's visual aesthetic in other two videos. One covers the pre-columbian art and the other the potential artistic influences in general, the latter one also being an amazing critique on YNDD as well as an analysis of many aspects of Yume Nikki and its fangames. These ones have not been translated to English yet, however, but I'll leave the links here anyway in case you're interested:
https://youtu.be/8_8xoQcSNvE
https://youtu.be/g7BBojT5Mwk?t=338

>>9105
Pic didn't load for some reason.

>>9107
Another one by Masson, The Fruits of the Abyss from 1942.

It's 2020 and we still talk about YN. You can't imagine how happy this makes me. Love you guys

See >>9141

>>8473
i think it's a port the rpgmaker devs made to advertise the new engine

>>8477
Oh neat, I didn't know that

it's gone

Is the Android ver of NASU completely lost then?
Did no one keep a copy?

i still have it on my phone hope this works for you
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dyb4u41d9tfq3ge/NASU_com.surpara.nasu.apk/file

>>9050
Works for me. Thank you!

when there will be Super NASU 64

Eh, not very though I think the nikki board gets a decent bit of traffic. I think its mostly a tight knit community here but I could be wrong. This is mostly a rainy day site for me so I dont know all its ins and outs.

Ah okay, thank you!

Hard to say, sometimes you have 3 posts a day, sometimes 10 but surely never more. It is slow but most of the time quality.