/yn/ - Yume Nikki General

To us western fans it may seem strange to see YN returning after all this time.

But… was it really forgotten about in Japan?


As you may know, Yume Nikki is one of - if not the - most iconic RPG Maker Games ever created. And it lives on in fans' and artists' hearts. Fanworks have been created ever since. Not as many as there are those based on hyped shows and games, but quite a lot compared to other RPG Maker Games at least.

Speaking of other RPG Maker Games, there is quite a huge fanbase of them in Japan.
Events by and for fans and circles have been held; "Try&Re:save" in 2015 and "Try&Re:save2.0" in 2017; "Freedom Game" 1-7 with the first one in 2016. And a Yume Nikki-specific event called "Mars Picnic" in 2014. The only other game with an event dedicated to it solely is Ib with "Rose of Museum".

The dimensions of these events compared to Comiket and others are unknown to me, but there sure had to be quite a lot of people attending them so the organizers see it's safe to plan a next one.

Yume Nikki is definitely one of the best-known RPG Maker Games within Japan, along with Ib and Gokuto Jihen, and the newer games Satsuriku no Tenshi and Higyaku no Noel.


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Is YN still good? Was it ever?

All of this hoopla surrounding the steam release and the countdown and spin offs and what has got me thinking. Can anyone enjoy this game anymore? It was really enjoyable when we first played it, finding all the neat little hidden events, the discovery of Steve 'Leif' Kareha and Mars Junior, and many other little things, and the copious amounts of theories and theorizing that we went over and over.

But it's such an old game, and one that might not of aged really well in my opinion. It's so old, I feel like we've discussed everything about it. Absolutely everything that could be said has already been said and there's nothing more to say. Everything has been talked to death, even the smallest of details has been scrutinized and amounted to nothing in the end. As always, we're still left in the dark about the game's story. According to a dubious interview with Kikiyama there WAS no story. All it was was an experiment in RPG Maker and nothing more. Even if there's no proof that the game's author said this, I feel inclined to believe it at this point. Even if it does have some sort of hidden meaning, we've undoubtedly talked it over and over at some point in the past. Now the only reason we cling to it is because of nostalgia, to try and remember all the feelings it envoked when we first played it.

Will a new audience enjoy it? I'd say, probably not. Like I said, there's no more discussion. There's nothing new we can talk about. And all sorts of games have been released since then, which greatly surpass YN in terms of just about everything. Even it's own fangames are better, whether it's .flow and it's more complex story, or Yume 2kki and it's hugeness and beauty. We created them for our nostalgia as well, to, again, try and evoke those same feelings. This cannot be done by simply playing the game again. Once is the only time you get. Once you see everything, there's nothing else left.

Those nostalgic feelings are being preyed upon, as most games are doing nowadays, by Kikiyama or Kadokawa or whoever. To sell crappy merch for a 20 year old game. A game with no story. A tabula rasa. It's so fucking easy for them to bribe people with a keychain of their favorite 'character', who never talks nor does anything really, or a paid for explanation in the form of a shitty manga (and was that ever actually finished?), and an album of Vocaloid songs. This time will likely be no different. It's a publiciPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

So if by any small chance kikiyama is involved in this new project, this may be the last chance to share some new theories, and even if not, it's still a good idea.

I will go with a few of my thoughts, without the typical theories that bore me because they're too obvious.

TV
What's in common between things like ufos, ancient ruins, stories about ghosts and creatures in the sewers and dark places, urban legends, in Japan also Yuki-onna etc? Yep, those tv programs that always use the things, Madotsuki could possibly like those and enjoy watching them.

Lucid dreams
I used to write "yume nikki" on the title of my diary of lucid dreams (where I wrote the experience, technical mistakes I made during them, and plans for next time - the usual in the best method I use, can describe it in /yume/ if anyone's interested) so that nobody figures out what the notebook is, and then I find out there's a game with the name. Fiction with dream/lucid dream theme is rare so I started it, and was actually surprised it shows some lucid dream mechanics well - for example the room in the lucid dream is the same with minor changes, or it reflects the past state of the room (in which case Madotsuki bought the console recently). And a lot of Effects are things one actually tries in a lucid dream - dividing consciousness into more thanone body, flying, influencing reality/weather, changing appearance and the list can go on, including poop hair - making realistic smells appear (the reality of the perception really impresses and shocks beginners in lucid dreming). And lucid dream doesn't always mean full control of the space around you - Madotsuki can simply not know how to do it, and thinking it should be stable like it is, and using effects may be a new "rule" she came up to actually make some changes possible. And of course you can only pinch your cheek to wake up if you actually know it's a dream.

UBOA with the perspective of lucid dreaming
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Kikiyama deleted his website…

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone might have an idea where I can find information on exclusive YN goods which where originally bundled with CDs/Books/etc. as bonuses?

I found a postcard (image) and I also ordered a CD where a Poniko Card is attached; but I don't know anything about them.

Yumenikki.net was a rather good place to look some months ago (some sites where already down tho), but nearly the whole site is down now.

Just noting that the furniture in Poniko's room is identical to Mado's dream room (Dream room has no famicom, sorry, couldn't take screenshots for some reason, had to use images from wiki, wiki only had the real world room, not dream room), except from one thing: Poniko's closet. Now, having a closet
is (obviously) significant, because of closet Madotsuki. Perhaps indicating that Poniko is also just as 'closeted' as Mado.

Hey there. I am an amateur cartoonist that makes cartoons and drawings and comic books and such, and I really love Yume Nikki. So, I decided I would make a comic about it! I've made a post about this before, so I might as well keep y'all updated. Here's some sketches of Madotsuki I'm working on. Questions? Comments? Concerns? Let me know!(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING UNDERAGE)

any headcannons yn?

I think mado sleeps with shoes because she sleep walks and doesn't want to step on anything sharp

also maybe poniko has nyctophobia and shes the one turning the lights back on and uboa is a personification of that

where i can download Yume Nikki portable version (without installer)?

after thinking about a possible way to find the creator. i had a thought about just setting up a buy for the domain name of the official site and seeing whether or not they'd bite to sell it.
or maybe breaching the site to find its public ip or just upload some photo on the site to see if it gets removed.
Do you guys think the creator knows about the amount of fans?