Anonymous 06/07/12 (Thu) 20:20:44 No. 1003
How can we be certain that it isn't random if we don't know whats going on down there?
I suck at physics so please explain.
Anonymous 06/07/12 (Thu) 21:11:11 No. 1004
we can't be sure of anything
if you want a for-sure definition, please kill yourself
newton's laws etc are still theories.
but if you believe in magnets then trust me when I say that there are a lot of miniscule forces that'happen' (we don't know why) to make everything work.
Glitch-kun 06/08/12 (Fri) 01:00:13 No. 1005
I myself am also deterministic. I am confused as to where people who understand physics get the notion that we, as people, have free will. If randomness exists, it only exists at microscopic levels. But I digress.
I've not heard of either of these. However, I spent about 30 minutes looking at the two, and that makes me an expert on the internet. Stoicism is the only one that makes sense to me. Where the hell does free will come from? We're just conglomerations of physical and chemical processes. It's hard to fully grasp, and even I haven't yet. I also like the Stoic idea of Casual Determinism. I mean, sure, if you 100% knew that a future event would take place, then you could do whatever, but your whatever either caused or had no effect on the outcome. If you're "fated" (Although specific planned fates don't exist either) to be rich, and you knew this and became lazy, then somehow the process of knowing your fate and being lazy was entirely involved in your richness. Or it's an external thing. Or whatever.
Glitch-kun 06/08/12 (Fri) 01:01:00 No. 1006
Fucking magnets, how do they work?