/t/ - Theories

>>1030
I don't mind being corrected. It was just a random thought I had.

Didn't Madotsuki die from…

Well, you know, something other than that…?

If she died from hyperthermia, does that mean she's a ghost the whole time during the game? o.O

>>1063
Oh shit I'm an idiot!

I think that Yuki-onna is covering her mouth because she's giggling because she finds Mado's attempt at rape amusing.

I'm sorry, why even bother making a shitty thread like this?

It's like me making an entire thread about, I don't know, "HAHA GUISE WHAT IF MADO GOT RUN OVER A BICYCLE AND THATS WHY THERES A BICYCLE EFFECT xD xDDD"

My interpretation of the the witch scene being calm and peaceful is that it represents Madotsuki's suicidal ideation. Or the idea that after she throws herself off the balcony she will be at peace and that is the only way she will be peaceful compared to the rest of her dreams, or life.

If you deactivate the Witch effect mid-flight, Madotsuki will plummet to the ground.
Then she'll wake up by falling out of bed.

>>1425 Quite whole topic is about it.

You know, you never actually see a body. And then there's the Jellyfish.

It's left ambiguous really. People assume she killed herself because it seems like the likely outcome, but usually when you show weird shit after that, that's when you assume "it's a dream all along".

Not sure why that's never been a popular theory in these parts.

>>1452
>>1452

My interpretation is that when she hit the pavement she went back to the dream world. The Jellyfish was taking her back.

She's dead Jim.

Shes smiling because she's a faggot

What if she's smiling because Mado was raped, and Monoe's a sadist, or a raptophile, or just really hates Madotsuki?

What if Monoe is smiling because she's a massive cunt

>>1442
>>1446
>>1441

Smiling at one's death makes you a massive cunt faggot so you're all right.

>>1444
Except you. You're wrong.

>>1448

To be fair, smiling at one's rape also makes you a massive cunt faggot.

well, i dont buy it but just reminded me this guy on nicovideo did. the description says something on the lines of… "everyone blames a bad mental health for her dreams and suicide, but what if she was normal and it was the world the deranged one so that all she saw was more or less real?" and goes on display some 100 drawn frames of what seems to be an alien invasion or something.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13991125

it asks to register with some email, but there's quite much YN content at that page, i recommend it.

Reminds me of Dave McKean.

I love Plastic Girl. I feel like the theme of "escape" and symbolism is something both YN and Plastic Girl share, though I think Plastic Girl is a lot more in your face than YN. It's quite basically a story about puberty and growing pains.
The protagonist of Plastic Girl feels bitter about and alienated by her parents, who she believes prefer her as a baby they can suppress and control (especially her mother, "Mommy spawned me so I would bear all her sins", "Mom gave me a name. Secretly, I give her one back" - harsh) so she acts out by "turning ugly" when not given attention and "forgetting" what it means to be human (emotional issues), "having a baby" she kills to avoid getting in trouble, drawing "angels" to her and then gutting them for fun (relationships), etc.
She feels completely detached from her much younger, more naive self and feels like a totally different person from the baby her parents loved so much. She wants to escape from those feelings, so she tries going "Well fuck you. I'm going to become an adult as soon as possible and you can't stop me". She bites into an unripe, "forbidden" fruit, but it only hurts her in the end.
I also think her alienation might get to the point where she feels like she hurts and discards other people (she kills the snake she was "playing with" and stones the girl who directed her to her home to death) and is actually sort of disgusted with her "friends" (like the one who was "making a human being").

>>1312

Kids have vivid imaginations, and can imagine some seriously scary shit.

>>1323

Yeah, overall, they all know paraca's culture and symbolism and that's why they dream with it.<-Don't take this seriously

No, really, I don't think all that symbolism just appeared there because of nothing in first instance.
You're right with that that kinds can imagine things really fucked up and scary, but not with all the symbolism of diverse cultures about dreams and the way to solucionate internal problems through dreams.

>The ability to have the same dream repeatedly with no change in information is nearly impossible and is far more likely to be an aspect of one over-arching, deep state of unconsciousness.

>Madotsuki can fall asleep in exactly three seconds in the real world, even after repeated terrifying nightmares. This is not a likely ability to have in reality.

>In the dream world, her only task is to seek and find 24 effects which are randomly scattered


>Using gameplay elements as an argument for a theory

Dropped

>>1327

I don't think the consistency of the dreams is a gameplay element so much as a design element. Granted it's hard to make things random in RPG Maker, but the way it's structured into the different worlds with consistent entrances is qutie strange.

>>1352
Not at all. There are plenty of random elements in Yume Nikki. If you wanted to represent having different dreams, you could just roll the RNG when Mado goes to bed which places her in one of a range of disconnected dream worlds.

Although you could argue that the Nexus is essentially a representation of having different dreams each time, which merely removes the randomness and gives the player more control over what Mado dreams about.

Monoe was to be Madotsuki's sister, but before she was born Mado screamed when she saw a dead green man by the side of the road, causing her mom to get into a car accident. This caused a miscarriage.

Hell has that kind of feeling of being somehow "deeper" than all the other areas in YN, like it's some kind of underlying support structure. Kind of like when you escape out of the testing area in Portal. It has a certain consistency and repetitive nature to it that the other areas don't have.

I think Hell represents the lowest level, or a lower level of Madotsuki's subconscious, one close to a more direct neural rather than psychological level. Of course, a bunch of random stuff still pops up there, since because.

Wow, good theory.

Nice.

I think it actually makes sense that there's something more going on here than just her exploring her dreams. The way different dream "worlds" are so neatly sectioned off by the doors is quite odd and un-dream like.

I think it actually makes sense that there's something more going on here than just her exploring her dreams. The way different dream "worlds" are so neatly sectioned off by the doors is quite odd and un-dream like.