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 No.805[Reply]

How do you guys make friends? Do you have friends? I've come to a breaking point with nearly everyone in my life recently. It drives me up the wall that nobody, not even my most trusted friends, seem to care about any of the same things as me. They don't have any values, any morals, nothing is sacred to them. I can't go on having my "friends" piss me off everyday because they are so flippant and careless about things that matter deeply to me and have no desire to change. I feel like I've hit a wall. I really don't want to invest a lot of time and effort into new friendships just so they can let me down years later too. I don't know what to do.
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 No.808

>>807
love the way you immediately made this about yourself

 No.809

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>>808
Of course you love it, because there's nothing wrong with it and is in fact spot on. Thank you for appreciating it.

OP is asking for advice, talking about my personal experience to use as example is perfectly fair, especially when I specify precisely that when I say my experiences would probably not work on OP.

I also love your response. I love the part where you discard half of the post that doesn't speak about my experience at all just so you can say I make it about me.

I love the use of the word "immediately" as well, because I don't start talking about my experience until the last part of my post.

 No.810

>>809
you write like lair4anon lol

 No.811

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>How do you guys make friends?
Idk honestly. it kinda happens in social events or online in groups chat, another (yet virtual) social gathering.
I don't have many close friends. got lucky enough to keep contacts and stick with childhood friends. these are the first ones i can consider close. and then the next ones are old internet friends from imageboards that we happen to have stuck around with eachother for a long time. We are all in the same group chat, but (I) have limited 1:1 talks privately with them. only a few i talk to regularly. and that's it. that's my friend circle.
there's other people i know, but i'd be more comfortable calling them acquaintances at best. details about them are fuzzy at best. Humans can only properly keep up with so few friends, you know?

>I really don't want to invest a lot of time and effort into new friendships just so they can let me down years later too. I don't know what to do.

See, the thing is that forming these connections and maintaining them, for me, never felt like it required actual effort. I don't think it should, for anyone, either. it felt like i was passively participating in building a friendship, while i am doing this whole socializing thing. that last part is what drains my battery and makes me go reclusive to do my own things. I wanna play a team game? Well let's grab a couple folks that wants to, too. the purpose is to play the game and i'm creating a connection in the process. Not always, but sometimes it passively happens.
(I used that example like I still do all of that myself, but the truth is that I don't do that anymore. I used to do it when I was younger playing competitive games. I much prefer to stick to myself nowadays…)

It also helps to be a regular at some place or online space. to be somewhat known by other regulars. these are your acquaintances with who one of em may (finally) click with you and that's when they'll go from acquaintance to a friend. that kind of connection also happens at a job. (I understand where I am posting this to, but in the interest of being comprehensive and sharing my experiences : yeah. it's pretty easy to create acquaintances at a job.)

ig tl;dr : be a regular somewhere. in meatspace or on the wired. it'll just happen.
as for your friends atm : don't think too hard about it. no need to cut contacts if you don't gotta. You'll find folks that align bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.812

>>805
i'm really sorry to hear that. i've had similar experiences i think, but not on the level you're talking about.

i guess i'm "friends" with the social workers. and i know some actually kind of cool discord trannies. but making friends irl is beyond me. it's especially egregious to be an uber zoom zoom in that kind of situation i think; you mentioned how your friends were callous and irony-poisoned, which is something i've dealt with too (although ime it's moreso that they simply have no connection to the world or self-awareness of their place in it as opposed to being dedicated to destroying those who do).


i don't really have any advice, sorry, but i wish you the best of luck. sorry for sounding pretentious haha



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 No.782[Reply]

You know, I just realized that just as there are civilian psychologists, there are army psychologists, so if all points towards a digital nation with no country then there should also be tech psychologists no? otherwise the first would lock us up in some cage and then monetize our memes, the second would kill us and pretend to be us just to attack enemy countries, but the last, which is still merely a concept, should be able to deal with us in a more constructive manner no?

 No.783

You're confusing healthcare and institutions

 No.803

>>783
In my experience they are the same.



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 No.718[Reply]

I didn't know that there were people in the same situation as me out there. It makes me feel better.
I've been having trouble finding my way out of this due to my own personality. I tend to overshare, and can't read social situations, so my interactions are weird most of the time. It's like I can't help it XD
And that's also a reason I haven't been able to stay in any job. My akwardness just floats to the surface and makes me ruin everything.

And now my body hurts due to some medical complications. So, it sucks.

But at least programming is cool, and cyberpunk, and I'm learning a new language! So it's not so bad I guess.

Anyway, I'm happy to know that I'm not alone. I mean, it's not the best place to be in, but… At least is less bad when you're not alone.
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 No.724

>>718
please help me with some realistic perspective. right now i just feel like everything is skate 3 ragdoll physics

 No.759

>>721
>ive been suffering from extremely bad head pressure/headache for years
I had a bad pressure headache for two days once and I went to the doctor and they told me that it's a pressure headache and I was able to fix it easily.
Just a reminder that if something is hurting and you can afford it, go to the doctor. Pressure headaches are easy to fix if you're healthy otherwise. Even if whatever is hurting you doesn't appear lethal, you shouldn't be suffering for so long without aid…
>inb4 only people who can't afford it wouldn't go to the doctor
Some people will try to sit anything out. Don't do that. Try to find the cause, whether it's physical or psychological or try to find something that helps.
Saying this as someone who has been sitting something out because I don't want to go to the doctor but I'm at a point where it's so bad, I think I'll have to go…

 No.760

>>759
thanks for the reply

 No.778

hmm

 No.779

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I didn't know that there were people in the same situation as me out there. It makes me feel better.
I've been having trouble finding my way out of this due to my own personality. I tend to overshare, and can't read social situations, so my interactions are weird most of the time. It's like I can't help it XD
And that's also a reason I haven't been able to stay in any job. My akwardness just floats to the surface and makes me ruin everything.

And now my body hurts due to some medical complications. So, it sucks.

But at least programming is cool, and cyberpunk, and I'm learning a new language! So it's not so bad I guess.

Anyway, I'm happy to know that I'm not alone. I mean, it's not the best place to be in, but… At least is less bad when



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 No.675[Reply]

I think it's deeply ironic that the kind of person who overanalyses things and is less likely to take SSRIs because of reported inefficacy and withdrawal symptoms is the exact kind of person who should be taking SSRIs

They are very effective in people with ruminating anxiety and neurotic fixations, not people with anhedonia from losing their job or partner or whatever. The success rate vs. placebo is like 20% in this population compared to like 3% for everyone else, what works for the majority is something that stimulates glutamate receptors a la ketamine

The reason they're the first line treatment for everyone is because rich people are neurotic and they were most likely to get them when they came out

 No.770

>>675

I have no clue if you're still on here. I haven't posted on here since like…2014.

Would you essentially be describing rumination/perseveration? From what I've read from other neurodivergent folks (specifically those with autism), SSRIs can help with ruminating.

My issue was for a long time, I didn't realize most of my issues were due to ruminating. I was too focused on the things that would make me ruminate in the first place that I didn't made the connection until many years later.

 No.771

Nobody should be taking SSRIs. They turn people into p-zombies. Every mass shooter of the past fifty years has been on SSRIs. If anything they should be banned.

 No.772

>>771
Seconded, I've seen what that garbage can do to people

 No.773

Nobody should be having gay furry sex. It turns people into :3-zombies. Every autist of the past fifty years has had gay furry sex. If anything they should be banned.

 No.775

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>>771
I agree with the sentiment to some degree, but I don't think they make every single person a zombie. It's hyperbolic. The issue isn't that SSRIs are useless, its that theyre over prescribed and general modern medicine around mental health is still pretty early in its infancy.

The shooters and similar are usually people who while maybe have mental illness, are more a product of their environment. Someone just going on a spree shooting just because isn't really a common thing. Instead it's usually people radicalized or just giving into their delusions and regardless of any of that, have failing support systems.

A big thing for me is that most medicine is far behind as well as most the time mental health professionals ignore the actual contextual issues someone faces and generalizes. An incel that goes on to commit mass murder isn't the same as someone whos delusional from schizo disorders. But almost everyone regardless of your issues, will be treated the same by a doctor as the first steps. Even with therapy its like this thou can vary a bit more. Generally thou, in the west at least, CBT therapy is the first choice automatically. This can be detrimental to many people because its focusing on fixing your actions more than anything else. And like someone who experienced massive child abuse being told to just fix their own actions can lead to horrific outcomes for their wellbeing. Just to give an example.



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 No.755[Reply]

with the current socioeconomic state of the U.S. I've been thinking about what the future looks like for crippleneets if disability services get cut off. I've lived off my disability payments alone since early 2023 and before that I was scraping by with welfare services and periods of homelessness. Full cripple with a chronic illness that has no prospect of improving, only worsening.

I want to set myself up so that I have some kind of job prospect if they do kill disability services and I have to go back to work. I have basically no CV or valuable skills. the two things I have a lot of experience in (farm labour and illustration) are basically inaccessible to me now (i'm too crippled for the former and the latter is a dead industry). i could definitely do a wfh job or really any kind of job that is mostly seated. not stupid either, I did well in school but never finished HS or pursued uni because of my health decline. what jobs would be a good fit for me? what can I realistically pursue getting qualified in while still on disability?

maybe not the best place for this thread but i used to post on neet alot so I feel comfortable on uboa. before i wanted to kill myself all the time but I'm a lot more hopeful now, life sucks hardcore but I have some cats and I want to be able to take care of them and just continue on my days.

 No.756

>>755
zoinks thats rough

 No.758

There's an indie bookshop in town and it looks lime a sweet gig to work at. Barstool at the front counter, just have to help lost aunts find childrens' books for gifts and ring that stuff up. Entire shop is only as big as a living room so not a ton of moving around.

I always kinda admired day traders and cryptobros but those days are gone, can't compete with bots.

 No.765

>>758
I do believe trading will continue providing an edge to the talented and hard working for more time than one would think. Mostly because the markets are so vast that it would be hard to make all of them instantly efficient across every single time frame and industry. Super advanced, profitable algorithms do not inform this breadth as their edge is very specific, and don't measure up even if they were all combined (otherwise nobody except machines would be making money which is untrue today). You might be the only person in the whole world that knows certain information or has a mind who perceives things in a certain way that can be used in this arena to create an edge. Until AI can account for things like that I don't think it will be a solved game.



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 No.747[Reply]

Ive began going outside again recently and I’ve even talked to some people no matter how much i talk to people or try to i still feel no connection with them and i the purpose i thought i was gonna get from talking to them i still haven’t gotten it any recommendations to help?

 No.748

>>747
Being sociable and feeing a deep connection are two very different things. I’ve good at the former, but still struggle to feel like I have a truly deep connection with anyone

 No.749

Take it slow man
seriously, it's already a big thing that you have started going out, and it's great :3
Conections form slowly, and even if you don't feel as conected to them as you want you should keep trying. It's a good fight

 No.750

>>749
its not. everyone is either retarded or incompatible for the purpose of forming a real connection. everything sucks. life is a banal grind towards a mediocre embarrassing death with no purpose. everything you love is a product. suffering is the only constant.



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 No.736[Reply]

I recently started going out but very rarely and i met this very pretty girl i can make her laugh besides that im not get at talking to her or other people my conversations starters only last about 3 or 2 sentences i need some advice i dont want to be alone


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 No.554[Reply]

Hello lovely people, I just wanted to make this thread to remind you that it's all going to be OK.

Can you share some positive improvements that have happened in your life recently? Personally I am working on getting more professional help for my issues and it's working out well. I'd love to hear some positivity of you people.
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 No.667

>>665
i shower too much. always afraid of being too moist or smelly or sticky. i can't wait until i can be a brain in a vat.

 No.669

I graduated high school in 2018 and almost immediately became a neet since I didn't really have any plan or goals after high school, only taking a temporary break in the first half of 2021 to study a field I have no interest in but both my parents really insisted I should pursue it. We're not rich and they spent a lot of money, but I never ended up succeeding due to flimsy medical reasons, and thus continued being a neet for the next couple of years.

Just started my very first day at college studying a degree I have no interest in but only pursued because of the ease of landing a job; since I'm a neet with no work experience or skills, even landing a part time job at the shittiest of places is nigh impossible. I haven't really spoken to my high school friends since graduating and almost every single one of them is successful; two even graduated from the same college I'm currently attending (one graduating in 2021 and the other in 2024). It's pretty lonely here since everybody else seems to already have established friend groups, and I hate how all my classes are in the late afternoon.

Seeing the absurd costs for just one year at college is making me think twice about enrolling here due to the student loans and not wanting to financially burden my parents any further. But I know if I quit, then there really isn't future for me other than the rope, so it seems like I'll continue to study at college. The problem is whether I'd be able to successfully study or not, considering that the obscene amounts of studying (about 14 hours per day) that I did during my small break from neetdom I had in 2021 made me constantly day dream about doing a murder-suicide (though not seriously). Fingers crossed I'll be able to pull through these next three to four years by myself.

 No.671

>>669
Nothing worth doing is easy anon, thaf's what makes being a neet so appealing.
I found the best way to meet new people is clubs (like school clubs) and volunteering.

It's going to feel awkward as hell the first time you do it but truat me when I say it gets easier. A little psychology trick here is that people
A.)Love to talk about themselves
B.)Join clubs for things that interest them
C.)are generally very excited when people want to learn about something they're passionate about.
This gets them talking to you and generally makes them predisposed to liking you.

I'd suggest you keep with school for now, even putting
>some higher education but no degree
On a resume is helpful for some jobs. I'm also sure your parents want you to get in a better spot so for god's sake take the help they're offering.

>t. Former socially retarded, neurotic neet who went to ATC school, washed out, then went from volunteering at an anime convention (because I couldn't afford the ticket) to being one of the volunteer coordinators because I played too much OpenTTD and got good at scheduling I guess.

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 No.672

>>671
Appreciate the advice anon. On my second week and I'm already exhausted by it, haha. The carpark's always full so I have to park far away from the campus and all my classes, at the very least, end some time in the afternoon so I've been finding it difficult to find a job since all the part-time ones are either way above my league (eg. being an experienced or educated in a field/skill) or clash with my classes. It's also summer right now where I live so making the trek from campus to my car makes it even more exhausting, so I end up coming home too tired to do any homework or any of the required reading. I'm just glad that the workload isn't as bad as I had it in 2021 (at least not right now…)

 No.730

>>671
>field service work
What do you service, anon?



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 No.650[Reply]

Hey everybody, I hope you all had happy holidays. Remembered this board while playing through .flow again. I've never been a NEET but I sorta became one during my first semester of college and I think prolonged NEETdom may be in my future if nothing changes.

I'm a 20 year old compsci major at a good university. I did my first year at community college and transferred to the university this year. I'm on winter break right now, and I go back to school tomorrow.

I know that there's a lot for me to be grateful for but I'm still unhappy and have been ever since leaving high school, and honestly before then too. It feels like despite having loving parents and despite never having any real traumas I'm still such a weak and ungrateful person. Reading the struggles on this board and /neet/ kind of make me realize how lucky I am in terms of finances and health. But realizing that doesn't really provoke any sort of true gratefulness or relief in me.

In fact, I've been thinking that if God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers then I must have such a weak and ugly soul to have the abundances I do and still hate my life this much, and that because of the weakness and ugliness of my soul I'm eventually destined for hell. I don't know if any christanons can relate. I think about God a lot, read the Bible, and consider myself Christian but not saved yet.

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 No.659

>>656
What's this angel cat art from anon? Unique style I haven't seen before, would make a good game.

 No.660

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>>659
the low-res textures being contrasted with the high-fidelity uv maps is really cool. i've been wanting to get into modelling for a while. what do you guys think of my birba?

 No.661

>>660
I'd say you're already pretty into modelling! You're birba looks great.

 No.666

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A bit of an update:

Thanks all for the kind words and advice. I cringed pretty hard rereading my epic self pity rant here lol. Thanks uboa for the advice and taking the time to read my slop lol.

I've realized recently how much of a fair weather fan I am when it comes to my own life. When I'm in the dumps I can't seem to get out (see the parent post), but when I'm happy I might as well be floating. I can't imagine thinking any of the stuff I did 4 weeks ago right now.

The spring semester has been going really well. I'm making new friends, exercising a lot, doing my HW and reading a ton, and praying/reading the bible every day. I also joined that self-defense club and it's been unexpectedly fun so far. Please send me ur positive energy /rec/anons, I really want to keep up what I've got going.

There's this cute girl who's friends with a new friend of mine. She's in the same class as us, but I haven't talked to her much even though we sit in the same area and have a mutual friend. I get pretty obsessive about the people I like and they start to take up like 10% of my waking thoughts, and the same thing is happening with this girl, but unlike the other times I think I might have Jesus encouraging me for this one, because something kind of crazy happened tonight.

I was at the dining hall sitting outside and for some reason I thought to myself "If that girl is in the dining hall when I go inside to put my dishes away I'm going to go talk to her one-on-one."

Sure enough when I went back inside she was there. No joke. I did like 5 circles around the hall before I steeled myself to talk to her. I literally mentally said to myself: "Come on dude, Trust Jesus, this is a gift, just do it, just go talk to her." and was finally able to drag myself over to her. We had a normal conversation about a shared class and she gave me her number and I almost had a nervous breakdown leaving the dining hall afterwards lol. It's been really long since I've had a real crush and I'm still kind of freaking out over it.

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 No.717

>>666
Sounds like you found your own ego not Jesus. You saw the girl sitting in the dining hall, decided you wanted to talk to her of your own free will, and then ascribed divine providence to her sitting there or not, which is of her own free will, and then affirmed such supposed providence when she was in order to psyche yourself up to go talk to her. And grats on talking to her and all and doing well and all, but I'm not even an athiest and this kind of line of thinking irks me. You are not so special as to have a personal line to God and he is not talking to you like that. So, so, so many people have spiraled into psychosis because they misidentify their own thoughts as external ones given to them by a divine power.
You're also selling yourself short, you are capable of doing courageous things of your own volition.



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 No.679[Reply]

i fixed two computers at work today. it's something i would have only known how to fix because i spent so much time staying inside and toying with random settings on my computer for most of my life. what normie would have deduced that the hardware acceleration was turned off for the web browser?

i feel pretty fortunate to end up working with a bunch of people who are also really introverted, some still living at home. i would not be surprised if some of them had spent some time as a NEET during or after covid.

i know that part of the reason i never feel fully accepted by others is because i come off as totally unapproachable. i don't know how to change this. without this false protective shell i think i'd feel too vulnerable to even get out of bed every day. has anyone been able to break through this, and feel themselves around others?

 No.714

I write in my journal a lot. Even when im with others i'll often be listening and participating with the conversation as I draw my surroundings or maybe some fantastical creatures or whatever.
I've found that it helps me mull over my thoughts so I can say them with more confidence when I eventually do say them. I use both digital and traditional journals.

 No.715

lol covid NEETs, good post otherwise.



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