/rec/ - Ex-NEET / Recovery

>>698
I can’t stand being outside I feel like I don’t belong there.

I really don’t know what i want to do in life i literally model myself off fictional characters all i do is spend time in my room do you have any suggestions on how to get better and sorry for the way i write this post its my time here and im still trying to learn

Nothing ever gets better. Wish I could work up the courage to kill myself.

>>766
fiv enight fredy

Could be worse, you could go blind and become unable to escape in the first place. Be grateful even if you think it's the the of the world because there is no bottom to how bad it can actually get

>>741
>20
>no university
>hate studying
>want to earn money
>doesn't want to get into a trade that destroys the body
>doesn't want to be outside all day
One of my friends did vocational training and learnt a trade before going to university, failing and then studying something that he's better at at a different university.
I also know someone who went into archaeology but her body couldn't keep up with it after so many decades (I don't know if she got any health problems but she mentioned that the job is harder on her body than it used to be) so she went back to university for something a bit more easy for someone of older age.
Even if whatever you choose gets too much, you can still try something else (although university costs money ofc, but you're being supported when it comes to education, right?).
Maybe check out jobs that are recommended for older people, they usually are a bit easier on the body https://www.greatseniorliving.com/articles/jobs-for-older-people
Also, a physically not demanding job isn't necessarily better for your body (sedentary lifestyle and all), but if you're concerned about this, you're surely working out regularly anyway.
>no matter what path I take, I will end up regretting it
I think you're overestimating how bad a "wrong" choice would impact you. I know several people who failed university and they just studied something else, you can do that. (Unless you're in america or some place where studying is unreasonably expensive, then it just depends on how rich your caregivers are)
Either way, if you keep your pessimistic outlook, you'll fret about "oh no, back in my 20's I had a NEET phase, my CV is ruined, I wasted my youth" or whatnot, like, it doesn't have to be that big of a deal either way, but I can promise that you'll have more fun doing productive things. Doesn't have to be mentally challenging, just a regular job.
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>>753
Well, I was gonna suggest just quickly learn a profession on your own that's profitable enough on your country, where I live there's truck driver, carpenter, industrial cleaner, crane and heavy machinery operator and more, but then I read…

>I also don't want to get into a trade after seeing how destroyed is the body of some people is after working all his life into one. And also, I dont want to be outside all day, specially in winter.

Well life's tough little fella! You were a little kid living into the delusion that your life is just what you saw and you weren't gonna live long so why care, but that's false, and I'm not blaming you, kids and teens are retarded because they've never experienced the world outside, and that's normal, when I was a kid, I thought life was easy just because the whole finish school-get a degree-get a job-work and retire sounded too simple, boom, debt hit me in the face.

You're not to blame for that, but your whole attitude of "I want to make progress but not get my hands dirty" is a problem

See, the easiest job I got is this, I bought pool cleaning equipment, they called me and I cleaned pools for rich people, it was very okay, it just stopped because I had to move, see if that makes sense over there.

Work is not just a hassle, it can be an excuse to get out there and find meaning.

Any casinos nearby? They always need cooks, housekeepers or security guards. It's not glamorous but it pays bills. I took a job cleaning - saved me last time I was out of work for a while. They're a bit nosy on the license application though… costs money to get it and they wanted 10 years of my life history (your toilets are are safe with me boss!).

You could always just go to Japan, there are no qualifications/requirements to get a 2year japanese language school visa residency besides being able to pay 1 million jpy/year and have rent.

Why not live your otaku gooning anime dreams, and either propser as a neet in japan or fail and say you atleast try?

if you want to attend university but not really care, temple university and lakeland university accept anyone with a pulse, offer remote classes and you can use USA student aid to attend so it is 100% free outside housing.

If you want to make money, you do not need to go to school, I did IT, and been in it for basically 20 years now and in a comfy position, it's one of the last careers you can really neet/stay inside and succeed from.

since you're 20, I'd do the japan route, youth is nice, I had the pleasure of going to japan when I was 25+, if I was 20, i'd probably be staying there more - but I found success elsewhere..

so lets review:

go find a sharehouse, go to jp on 90 day visa to see, sharehouse should be $300-400/month in tokyo.

jap language school enrollment for now is for summer, enough time to learn the basics and not go in winter which sucks, though spring is the best.
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>>755
zoinks thats rough

There's an indie bookshop in town and it looks lime a sweet gig to work at. Barstool at the front counter, just have to help lost aunts find childrens' books for gifts and ring that stuff up. Entire shop is only as big as a living room so not a ton of moving around.

I always kinda admired day traders and cryptobros but those days are gone, can't compete with bots.

>>758
I do believe trading will continue providing an edge to the talented and hard working for more time than one would think. Mostly because the markets are so vast that it would be hard to make all of them instantly efficient across every single time frame and industry. Super advanced, profitable algorithms do not inform this breadth as their edge is very specific, and don't measure up even if they were all combined (otherwise nobody except machines would be making money which is untrue today). You might be the only person in the whole world that knows certain information or has a mind who perceives things in a certain way that can be used in this arena to create an edge. Until AI can account for things like that I don't think it will be a solved game.

>>747
Being sociable and feeing a deep connection are two very different things. I’ve good at the former, but still struggle to feel like I have a truly deep connection with anyone

Take it slow man
seriously, it's already a big thing that you have started going out, and it's great :3
Conections form slowly, and even if you don't feel as conected to them as you want you should keep trying. It's a good fight

>>749
its not. everyone is either retarded or incompatible for the purpose of forming a real connection. everything sucks. life is a banal grind towards a mediocre embarrassing death with no purpose. everything you love is a product. suffering is the only constant.

>>665
i shower too much. always afraid of being too moist or smelly or sticky. i can't wait until i can be a brain in a vat.

I graduated high school in 2018 and almost immediately became a neet since I didn't really have any plan or goals after high school, only taking a temporary break in the first half of 2021 to study a field I have no interest in but both my parents really insisted I should pursue it. We're not rich and they spent a lot of money, but I never ended up succeeding due to flimsy medical reasons, and thus continued being a neet for the next couple of years.

Just started my very first day at college studying a degree I have no interest in but only pursued because of the ease of landing a job; since I'm a neet with no work experience or skills, even landing a part time job at the shittiest of places is nigh impossible. I haven't really spoken to my high school friends since graduating and almost every single one of them is successful; two even graduated from the same college I'm currently attending (one graduating in 2021 and the other in 2024). It's pretty lonely here since everybody else seems to already have established friend groups, and I hate how all my classes are in the late afternoon.

Seeing the absurd costs for just one year at college is making me think twice about enrolling here due to the student loans and not wanting to financially burden my parents any further. But I know if I quit, then there really isn't future for me other than the rope, so it seems like I'll continue to study at college. The problem is whether I'd be able to successfully study or not, considering that the obscene amounts of studying (about 14 hours per day) that I did during my small break from neetdom I had in 2021 made me constantly day dream about doing a murder-suicide (though not seriously). Fingers crossed I'll be able to pull through these next three to four years by myself.

>>669
Nothing worth doing is easy anon, thaf's what makes being a neet so appealing.
I found the best way to meet new people is clubs (like school clubs) and volunteering.

It's going to feel awkward as hell the first time you do it but truat me when I say it gets easier. A little psychology trick here is that people
A.)Love to talk about themselves
B.)Join clubs for things that interest them
C.)are generally very excited when people want to learn about something they're passionate about.
This gets them talking to you and generally makes them predisposed to liking you.

I'd suggest you keep with school for now, even putting
>some higher education but no degree
On a resume is helpful for some jobs. I'm also sure your parents want you to get in a better spot so for god's sake take the help they're offering.

>t. Former socially retarded, neurotic neet who went to ATC school, washed out, then went from volunteering at an anime convention (because I couldn't afford the ticket) to being one of the volunteer coordinators because I played too much OpenTTD and got good at scheduling I guess.
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>>671
Appreciate the advice anon. On my second week and I'm already exhausted by it, haha. The carpark's always full so I have to park far away from the campus and all my classes, at the very least, end some time in the afternoon so I've been finding it difficult to find a job since all the part-time ones are either way above my league (eg. being an experienced or educated in a field/skill) or clash with my classes. It's also summer right now where I live so making the trek from campus to my car makes it even more exhausting, so I end up coming home too tired to do any homework or any of the required reading. I'm just glad that the workload isn't as bad as I had it in 2021 (at least not right now…)

>>671
>field service work
What do you service, anon?

>>656
What's this angel cat art from anon? Unique style I haven't seen before, would make a good game.

>>659
the low-res textures being contrasted with the high-fidelity uv maps is really cool. i've been wanting to get into modelling for a while. what do you guys think of my birba?

>>660
I'd say you're already pretty into modelling! You're birba looks great.

A bit of an update:

Thanks all for the kind words and advice. I cringed pretty hard rereading my epic self pity rant here lol. Thanks uboa for the advice and taking the time to read my slop lol.

I've realized recently how much of a fair weather fan I am when it comes to my own life. When I'm in the dumps I can't seem to get out (see the parent post), but when I'm happy I might as well be floating. I can't imagine thinking any of the stuff I did 4 weeks ago right now.

The spring semester has been going really well. I'm making new friends, exercising a lot, doing my HW and reading a ton, and praying/reading the bible every day. I also joined that self-defense club and it's been unexpectedly fun so far. Please send me ur positive energy /rec/anons, I really want to keep up what I've got going.

There's this cute girl who's friends with a new friend of mine. She's in the same class as us, but I haven't talked to her much even though we sit in the same area and have a mutual friend. I get pretty obsessive about the people I like and they start to take up like 10% of my waking thoughts, and the same thing is happening with this girl, but unlike the other times I think I might have Jesus encouraging me for this one, because something kind of crazy happened tonight.

I was at the dining hall sitting outside and for some reason I thought to myself "If that girl is in the dining hall when I go inside to put my dishes away I'm going to go talk to her one-on-one."

Sure enough when I went back inside she was there. No joke. I did like 5 circles around the hall before I steeled myself to talk to her. I literally mentally said to myself: "Come on dude, Trust Jesus, this is a gift, just do it, just go talk to her." and was finally able to drag myself over to her. We had a normal conversation about a shared class and she gave me her number and I almost had a nervous breakdown leaving the dining hall afterwards lol. It's been really long since I've had a real crush and I'm still kind of freaking out over it.

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>>666
Sounds like you found your own ego not Jesus. You saw the girl sitting in the dining hall, decided you wanted to talk to her of your own free will, and then ascribed divine providence to her sitting there or not, which is of her own free will, and then affirmed such supposed providence when she was in order to psyche yourself up to go talk to her. And grats on talking to her and all and doing well and all, but I'm not even an athiest and this kind of line of thinking irks me. You are not so special as to have a personal line to God and he is not talking to you like that. So, so, so many people have spiraled into psychosis because they misidentify their own thoughts as external ones given to them by a divine power.
You're also selling yourself short, you are capable of doing courageous things of your own volition.

I write in my journal a lot. Even when im with others i'll often be listening and participating with the conversation as I draw my surroundings or maybe some fantastical creatures or whatever.
I've found that it helps me mull over my thoughts so I can say them with more confidence when I eventually do say them. I use both digital and traditional journals.

lol covid NEETs, good post otherwise.

It's been another year so I may as well give another update.
After my contract ended in April 2023 I was a NEET again until last February. I somehow managed to get a bunch of interviews at some incredibly high-profile places but I think I was too autistic in the interview for all of them. Eventually I found another part-time research job in February, which has been pretty comfy (and way, way below the skillset they were asking for - a PhD was preferred for a role that has just been printing things off and proofing things for other people). So I can't really complain too much.
I've also been offered a spot on two doctoral programs. One is 4 years and offers a full scholarship with just enough of a stiped to live off but I'd have to move to Asia for it. I've not heard back on funding from the other one yet but it's only 3 years and has a (much) better reputation, so I'd prefer to go there. Either way I'm making progress. For the first time in a very long time I'm not worried about the future.

>>574
As someone who's considering doing a PhD, your post fills me with hope, anon

>>575
I'm glad you found this useful. If nothing else I want this thread to show that you can do stuff with enough ability, effort and patience.
Best of luck with your applications, and consider applying internationally, especially if you need the money. Anecdotally, I had two interviews for PhDs in the Netherlands last year and both paid very well. I understand Switzerland pays very well, too. The University of [spoler]Hong Kong[/spoiler] offers funding with every place but it's barely enough to live off, unless you get the big fellowship, in which case it pays very well.

Update doko

>>693
I was meaning to give an update but I don't have all that much to say. I ended up getting the big stipend for my PhD, which I've been doing that for the last year, so I've been very comfortable.
Things sucked for a while, but I guess everything worked out in the end. I'm not sure if there's a message here but I hope that people can draw some comfort from this thread.

How have you been training anon? To me these new types of warfare make physical training seem worthless to protect myself with, I'm interested in how you've built resistance.

>>703
Are you Ukranian or Iranian? Otherwise I don't think you're going to war anytime soon.

>>706
I am neither of those