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Sofia is Sofya who is Sonya who is Sonechka.
And they use ALL FOUR names on THE SAME PAGE.
Acting as though they are different characters and never tell us the they are nicknames.

Not to mention Dunya…
Who is Avdotya
Who is Dounia
Who is Dunechka


It's all implied, yes. Part of the Russian charm, however, is the extent to which personal relationships are ultimately explored. Tolstoy and Turgenev do this as well.


It makes me cry T.T


Michael is Mike who is Mikey who is Misha.

It's not that complicated. It could be worse like Robert who is Bob who is Bill who is Rob who is Bert who is Bobby who is Robin. Look diminutives, it's not hard.


Russia just has a really unique naming system with lots of variants.


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Simple. Write the story of your life, do not names or personal information that would give you away. I'll start.
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I have always been gifted with music, ever since I could remember. I began playing jazz trumpet at the age of 6. It was at 6 years old that I realized that music is really the main driving force in my life. I began to study it, discover new genres, expand my horizons. It was not until later that I realized that there was so much more for me on the internet. At the age of 13 I became disgusted with humanity and "normal" people. They all began to look the same to me. They all clothe themselves in the same name brand robes as everyone else and thought in a "group mentality". They all regurgitated the same things everyday: "he's weird, he's a freak, he has no friends". He became blind to them, he didn't even acknowledge their existance. They were all a flock of sheep following televised media. This world pushed him to the internet. On the internet he made more interesting friends, and now lives happily.


Fuck I switched perspectives…
>Fuck it
>Too late now…


I always knew too much. That is all.


for me life feels unreal
the entire gamut of existing, it's shallow and

I feel there's something out there but it's not here
I'm not sure I want it

sometimes I look in the mirror and say "that's not my body"
"that's not me"
"what am I doing here"

"what have I been doing"
"where am I going"

"where have I been"
"where will I be"
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Suddenly, I was.
Before I knew what was going on, I did.
I can only expect that I won't be, just as suddenly.

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In this thread we will discuss the future as conceived by those brilliant minds of the past and present.

Anthony, Asimov, Ballantyne, Baxter, Bear, Brin, Clarke, Dickson, Galouye, Gibson, Hamilton, Heinlein, Mason, Niven, Reynolds…

Teleportation, time travel, faster-than-light travel, reproductive nanobots, virtual personalities, humaniform robots, communication via neutrino scattering, para-universal communication, dimension bending, interstellar internet, spontaneous regeneration, genetic manipulation…

You name it, they've wrote it. Feel free to discuss your favorite authors, concepts, stories, characters or otherwise.


Reynolds as in that fluid dynamics guy?


That's Osborne Reynolds. Also he was born before the 1900's, a bonafide scientist, and not very likely to have penned much sci-fi (a genre which was pioneered by Edgar Allan Poe, mind).


Neutrinos tick me off. Physicists will say they have practically no mass, but the fact that they have a charge means they have some mass—am I right?


But they don't have a charge. They do have a spin, however, which is their intrinsic angular momentum. Also evidence suggests they do have a mass, which is infinitesimal at best.

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Lately I played Yume Nikki and .flow and was very pleased with the surrealistic and grotesque style.

Are there any books out there similar to Yume Nikki or .flow?


Haruki Murakami is a surrealist author who blends dreamlike circumstance and intricate metaphor with melancholy situation. Looking back, my memory of some of his stories are largely an amorphous, radiant mixture. It's definitely similar to Yume Nikki.

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I had the fortune of analyzing a poem called The Second Coming by the one named Yeats recently in English. I'd like to share it with all of you because of how amazing I think it is.


I won't give away any spoilers, so I'll leave the thread at a generic "discuss."

Even without the context, it's still a poem filled with profound imagery.


wow, it's been a long time since i've read something of that style. it's kind of hard for me to follow… i'll have to sit out from it for a bit and come back to read it again.

interesting subject matter from what i can tell at least… again, i'll have to give it another read-through.

thank you for sharing.


This is certainly one of the more difficult poems I have read, not that I read much poetry to begin with.

Given the time it was written it's quite clear that it is describing the Great War. Well, at first look anyway.

I haven't spent enough time reading it to gain a proper impression of it, however seeing as he is Irish, I can't help but seeing parts of it relating to the Irish War of Independence. I presume that he wrote this very shortly before the war begun as he seems to be hinting at something to come rather than something that is happening. I'm mostly referring to the last four lines:

"That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Well that is my first impression, I'll have to read it more later.

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Don't know if this would be the right thread… but you can read it… and it's a "book" so BAM. I know there's a Yume Nikki manga that someone made (it's not shipping or anything, just follows whatever small hint of a plot YN has) but I can't seem to find it. Help??? ((Pic unrelated))
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I…. don't know D:

I want it, too



Thanks bro, already torn through those though. Evidently he/she's going to actually publish safskara. The website is here:


thanks for the link

i am going to try importing these two books

will scan on arrival


As far as i know its already been publishd and distributed at a japanese convention… D:

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Writing literature takes a lot of finesse, understanding, and most importantly, knowledge of what makes a good story. Characters, settings, and background, as well as the events within your story, are what make up any piece of literature. I'd like to discuss all these things, share what we know and what we think makes good ones…..and bad ones, and discuss them, with any luck we may all become better writers because of it.

So to get things started off, I'd like to discuss what makes a good character. Definition, first of all but of course you have to make sure that personality gets known. Even if you have them fully defined in your head, you have to make sure that definition is reflected in everything they do. Personally, I find that the minute details and inconsequential actions a character does, defines them more than anything else. Although their dialogue plays a heavy role too. Its sort of like the whole "Han shot first" business, having not shot first would change his character. What are your opinions?
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Warning, tl;dr.

The way I construct a character largely depends on whether or not I have an audience, and what type of audience I may be writing for. For personal stories or roleplay characters I usually give my characters months of thought, trying to get to know them personally to quote Conlan. I like to have every detail in place before I put them into writing, but that in and of itself is a process. When I finally write out these characters I will literally dump my brain out onto the page, writing every tiny little detail I have imagined. Then, over the course of the week, I will reread the text each day, sometimes more than once, and selectively omit details that are superfluous. The text slowly sees itself whittled down from Tolkien-esque information overload to a more concise and easy-to-read mass that tells readers what they need to know.

I find it's helpful sometimes to shear these details down to the barest minimums, as in three or four word descriptions or one-word traits, and write them down on a notecard or in a separate document. As you write your story, bring up this card or document and check for consistency. Is your character still behaving in a way consistent with their original character? Ask yourself why (or why not). Is it because of actual character development or because you changed your mind about how you want that character to behave? If you're finding that you lack consistency, you should step back from your work and re-evaluate your character. The problem with the idea that you know your character so well is the fact that you can sometimes assume that these inconsistencies are simply part of the character. Sometimes they are, but a lot of the time they aren't, and it can make for a somewhat confusing character. It's okay to have gaps where you're not really sure where you or your character stand[s], that can leave room for development, but glaring inconsistencies can ruin a character.

If I'm writing for an audience who will ideally project themselves onto the character I prefer to leave things more vague so that the reader will have an easier time projecting themselves onto the character. If you flesh out a character too much they become just that— a character. They become less of a reader avatar and more of a person. You will see this sort of vague "archtyping" in a lot of high fantasy novels, especially older ones aimed strongly at men. The character will often be more of a template.

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>>198 I'm really impressed, thats more of a system than I've ever had, and it seems like it works well. Theres some really good advice there, and I can attest to how well writing out your characters on flash cards works.
Your system does bring a question to my mind though. You seem to write with other people in mind. I find it a bit constricting to do that however. Inspiration comes to me much easier if I don't have to think about weather or not whoever will be reading it will like it. Do you think there is an actual difference or do you think I'm just finicky.


>You seem to write with other people in mind.
Sometimes. A lot of the time I don't, I have a lot of stories that I write purely for my enjoyment. When it comes to these I allow myself a little more leeway and my plot/characters become more flexible or amorphous. Oftentimes my personal work will be so chock full of inconsistency after new inspiration strikes that I will completely shift the story into new territory if I like my later ideas better.

>Do you think there is an actual difference
Conventions, or even having a system can make a world of difference as far as cohesion goes. I think that if you want to get something done quickly and without much room for deviation I suggest writing as if you have an audience— even if you don't. Again, I like to get to the point with my work, I prefer never to overwrite, so I can be stiff sometimes. That said, you're not being finicky at all in my opinion!

If there's anything else I can offer my advice on I'd love to hear it. I'd also like to know more about other people's processes.

I ♥ /lit/.


>>205 That makes a lot of sense, I suppose why I prefer to write for myself is because first off, I know my audience very well and I consider anyone else who enjoys it a bonus. Your post does make me realize something though; I should probably have some sort of actual system for writing. I'm a novice writer, with little actual experience. The reason I know what I know is because as ashamed I am to say it, I spend more time studying writing than I do actually writing myself. Which I suppose isn't necessarily bad, but I don't get the things we're talking about down to habit and I don't know my own writing style as well. All of that being said, I'm hoping this thread stays near the top of the /lit/ board; because studying good works is one thing, but active conversation and opinion on them is something else entirely.
Oh and I appreciate your opinion a lot, and as I come across things on my "adventures" as a writer, I'll definitely consult you, anon.
If you can't tell, I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ /lit/ as well.


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>I spend more time studying writing than I do actually writing
I promise you, you aren't alone. I spent years studying writing and the processes thereof, which is how I developed the system I like to use now. Habit is great sometimes, but it can suffocate you creatively if you get too stuck in your ways. This is another thing you can see in the works of famous writers (Anne Rice is probably the best example). Subject matter, content, style— it's great to know where you stand on these things, but some writers just won't write anything else, so lacking systematic discipline can sometimes be good for you.

How long have you been writing? Regardless of the answer, I want to tell you not to worry too much about knowing your style just yet. It can take years to find a style you're really comfortable with. I still change my writing style every now and then based on who I'm reading or if I'm writing with someone else, and I've been writing for most of my life.

Always happy to help, good luck on your adventures in writing. Hope to learn a bit from you too when you come up with something new, and you will. I'll try to keep this thread bumped with relevant additions.

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Would poetry be considered literature? Anyway, here is a poem I wrote. Constructive criticism please. Also please tell me what you think it means, I want to know how it comes across.

Hell is not quite as warm
As I thought it'd be
In fact its quite cold
And very, very lonely
You could even say
That the Sun's lazy, gentle rays
Aren't what causes Earth's warmth
Each and every day

But the smiling faces of those
Who walk upon the ground
Cause the planets hospitable
Heat to endless abound
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I like it.
it has flow, and brevity.
keep writing. (:


I think this is so beautiful, and, just… skfkgkh.

It has a lovely rhyme to it, and upon reading it I was just struck by the need to comment.

I've never commented on Uboachan before, so damn you.


Oh wow, I completely forgot about this thread, may have to post something again here soon. Also, thanks for the praise lovely people. ;D


Not a poem, though nonetheless is meant to flow the same. Wrote it impromptu while listening to Debussy.

taken tiny as a reed
splendid steel
flustered seagull
assorted dumpling march
jumping on one heel
how does a lake feel
encouraged storm thunder scorn delivered underwhelming bristled horn
cast, casted
last, outlasted
fasting spline
function remastered
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And this is just something I did in order to say "fuck you" to people who write line upon line without saying one god damned thing.

tyrannous beauty's reprieve
a solipsist flower
in shackles settle
your narcissist power

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A second-person exploration piece that I did for my Writer's Craft course. I hope you enjoy it.

Picture unrelated.



in my writer's craft course i wrote a thing about hamsters and penises and i got a 90%
i let a hamster slowly starve to near-death before feeding it a tiny ball of chocolate and then it died.
the teacher thought it was hilarious.


I don't even have an Ipod, how can I relate? And why would I wish to touch the source of my alarm?


I would like jewels which I can pull out of the room description to cause my death plz. Needs more Shadowgate.


I don't have an ipod either, but i can relate to this story. A bit to good actually. GREAT WORK, KEEP IT UP!

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