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>>16433 No.16951
Noticed the current 2kki thread is going to shit so I went fuck it and created a new one myself if it’s not going to get back to discussing 2kki
Anyways have any actual good worlds been added to 2kki I haven’t played it for like 5 months now
No.16958
>>16957The previous one. It was being derailed left right and center, so the guy took the matter in his own hands and made a new one, probably thinking it will magically avoid getting derailed in the future.
I don't think this is going to work, but I guess we shall see.
Back to the topic. The game is shit.
No.16959
>>16958this is true, this game looks ass, play .flow instead
No.16963
>>16958Damn didn’t expect this to actually become to new 2kki thread on ubuu so thx hujle
Anyways I might as well replay 2kki to try and answer my own question of if there are new good worlds and if they are shit then 2kki is dead to me
No.16964
>>16963there are no good worlds because 2kki sucks and isn't good unlike .flow
No.16966
One thing I kinda hate about 2kki’s ost is the fact that a ton of horror explained YouTubers use it as background music like if you watch a lot of those YouTubers it’s gonna feel like 2kki is haunting you long after you’ve stopped playing it If anyone else gets this feeling let me know
No.16967
>>16964.flow has maybe 3 good worlds everything else is severely lacking in either music or visuals or both
No.16968
>>169672kki is so mediocre, get a good taste
No.16970
>>16963There should've been no 2kki thread #3. What's done was mostly for fun and giggles and the derailment could've been handled a lot different.
> might as well replay 2kki to try and answer my own questionDoubt you'll find gold in that pile of shit, but good luck with that I guess.
>>16965I wonder what you was proven wrong about.
No.16972
>>16970Actually I have another question for you
Why the fuck do you not want the thread about yume 2kki to not get derailed when you make it very clear how erect your hate boner is for it?
No.16973
>>16971You tell me.
>>16972Because I'd like a Yume 2kki thread to be, well, a Yume 2kki thread, and not anything-else-thread. Think about it, keeping the thread on it's rails is profitable for everyone involved: the community (they have a place to discuss the game), us haters (we have more opportunities to dunk on the game) and staff members (they have less users to punish for rules violation). So why breaking the balance by derailing the thread?
And for your interest, there's a rule on Uboachan about intentional thread derailment. And since you've derailed the previous thread, you should've been punished for it.
No.16974
>>16973holy fuck
(in a sopranos voice) Hold up, now wait a minute. You mean you really ARE retarded? It wasn't a prank, or a joke? Oh my gawd, this guy's actually fucking stupid. Get a load of this!
(Hey, this wasn't nice of you to say that!) No.16982
Wtf?!
No.16983
How did you do that?!
No.16989
Welp rip 2kki thread 3 lmao
No.16992
>>16991While I've seen some folks portraying Urotsexy with massive milkers, and the others drawing her with completely flat chest, I personally think she's on a small side of the spectrum, small enough to fit whole in the hand when you grab them.
Also, we have to take into account 1/256 stretch effect which makes her breasts bigger. With Urotsexy canonically having massive milkers, there would've been no need in that stretch effect.
No.16994
>>16993Dumbass doesn’t even know we do have a danganronpa thread
>>7022Anyways urotsuki probably does have flat chest if you look at the wallpapers and her sprites (unless “canon” doesn’t count for this thread
No.16997
>>16996Check /og/ (other games)
No.16998
>>16996>no danganronpa thread in /fg/ and never will be(Well unless someone make a danganronpa yume nikki fangame but honestly what are the chances of that happening) anyways
>>16995If urotsuki has a flat chest then does that mean she’s unattractive?
No.17002
>>17000what in the deviantart am I watching
No.17003
>>16998We're only trying to figure out Urotsexy's breasts size, not her attractiveness.
>>17000General body shape is also important, and breasts size is an essential part of it.
No.17021
>>17002this website is a phenomenal reminder of the benefits of eugenics
No.17032
I know Eldritch Urotsuki is a product of nu-2kki but she has some amazing bazoongas so I like to believe that she could give some amazing paizuri to match
No.17036
Uro but she is the lead of a Nu-Metal band
No.17038
>oneiroKINO and VVATARV in the most recently updated authors
>know in my heart it's probably just bugfixes and not new worlds
vgh…
No.17042
>>17037I don't really care if a author is famous or not honestly, as long its a good author
No.17067
>>17066I've seen way more annoying OC's handled in way more annoying ways in worlds that look way worse than Uwa's menhera fest
No.17068
>>17066>>17067Seriously why the fuck can’t they just make games where they are the main character.
Is the main reason that people like namedude and uwa don’t make games of their own characters (despite how bullshittingly simple rpg maker is aka the same fucking engine 2kki is made in) is cuz they fear that their games are basically going to get ignored so instead they just shove them into 2kki no questions asked?
If that is actually the case then that’s grim imo what do ya’ll think?
No.17071
>>17068Yume Ni**er fangames are a dying art
People prefer to take a shit in 2kki rather than coming up with their own kusoges
No.17094
>>17068You know what let’s “kindly ask them” all to remove their “story” content in 2kki and instead put them into their own games cuz fuck it
No.17097
>>17068The cynical answer is that they want a slice of the 2kki pie because they think that'll make them super popular super fast (Which is admittedly kind of true). The less cynical answer is that it's just easier for them to make stuff when they already have an established framework of common events and other systems to build on top of.
No.17106
>>17068Gotta say the same about qxy, too. I like their maps, but having to watch Shimako’s story from an outsider’s perspective doesn’t feel very right.
No.17109
>>17106At least he seemingly made the effort to actually relate her to Urotsuki herself somewhat, I think it was handled way worse with pic related and her whole "Mado Was Raep: Electric Boogaloo" storyline which was as out of place as namedude's quirky Witoru tier take on an unconventional YN fangame.
But overall I agree with the sentiment and wish he created his own fangame, not just because he's a great artist but because he's really tech savvy and I'd like to see what he could come up with
Also
>2 qxy updates>all bugfixes No.17151
>>17150unironically ask in the english discord server
No.17152
>>17150hey buddy don't write your name or people won't like you
No.17154
>>17153no way this nigga actually did something good for once, rare hujle w mayhaps?
(ayo watch yo tone mf) No.17155
>>17153Google stock images, truly the future of 2kki
No.17157
>>17153Thank you so much, friend. God bless you.
No.17239
Rip this thread lmao
No.17240
lmao
No.17270
this game sucks ass, play .flow instead
No.17272
>>17271No serious developer would greenlight this.
No.17277
>>17275This game sucks yume nikki is better
No.17278
>>17277yeah yeah yeah we get it this game is shit and all other games are better than it
can we let this thread die please?
No.17280
>>17278Start a thread about another fangame?
No.17281
>>17280As if you fags played anything else
No.17284
>>17283>They have marginally* less bloat and slop in them.ftfy
No.17288
>>172872020 is when aedio joined, to be exact, so that makes a lot of sense
No.17289
>>17286Most of the worst offenders indeed have joined since 2020:
aediorugap - September 2020
Yume wo Samayou - December 2021
21keb - November 2022
delta_judgment - November 2023
Though I'd say it all begun in 2019 really, as this is when maptsuki and ROKU95 got allowed
No.17296
>>17289So ROKU95 is the one that actually started the downfall of 2kki and not noildoof?
No.17297
>>17296I'm not saying she didn't open the flood gates for westerners to make their soulless uninspired tumblr-ass worlds, but from purely technical quality point (eg. not looking like made in 5 minutes using MSPaint) I think these
>>17289 are the worst
No.17299
lmao literally nobody likes this game???
No.17300
>>17299so why do ya’ll keep beating up this dead horse then?
No.17302
So many developers are foregoing development of their own fangames in favor of contributing to Yume 2kki. What do they think it is, some kind of Roblox for Yume Nikki fangames?
No.17336
Found this and gave it a crack, a bunch of recent authors aren't in it so I'll just include them here:
Consistently good worlds: Oneiro, Mizkura, 2da, 825, fluxide
Have a few remarkable worlds: Nanika, Uroyu, Holdery, Chonixtu, Rat, Peperoncino-whatever
Mediocre worlds: dotGOV, Murasaki no Yume, concetailys, Lysenthe, arcturus, blacksig, Pixel, glowwoomii, ed25519
Hall of infamy: Inakadomatsu(Runtime Package world guy)
And that's it, feel free to make your own too if you want
https://tiermaker.com/create/yume-2kki-map-developers-1527117 No.17338
>>17336Made my own based on what I've seen/remember; heavily influenced by nostalgia value
Anyone who isn't on here either I don't remember or added their stuff in after I quit playing 2kki
No.17339
>>17338lemniscate was a grommer?
No.17340
>>17339This was discussed previously:
https://uboachan.net/fg/res/11317.html#q15360But to give a quick summary: yes, Lemniscate and Rio were exposed as a child groomers by the victim and got booted out back in the middle of 2022.
No.17341
>>17340Oh I knew there were two groomers but I didn’t know lemniscate was the other one
No.17343
>>17342Fun fact: they tried to cover it up from the fear of more eastern devs leaving the project.
No.17344
>>17341Actually there were three of them, but that third one was a Discord moderator and had nothing to do with the game development.
>>17342>>17343They were saying eastern side was informed about it, but nobody knows
how the eastern side was informed. I personally have no trust in them. Not only they tried to cover up the incident, but one of their Discord moderators (not the groomer, a different one) attempted to put the blame on a grooming victim.
No.17345
>>17344I absolutely doubt they were properly informed, since I'm fairly sure Lemniscate and Rio's content are still in the game.
No.17346
>>17343And also because they (namely Yugamineena, who is still active to this day) were afraid the Yume 2kki team would ban Western fans from ever contributing again in the future (God, I fucking wish)
>>17344>>17345I was curious about this myself and lurked around the 5ch production thread a while back, IIRC the most I saw was a generic-ass "Mr. Rio and Mr. Lemniscate will no longer be updating their maps" without any explanation, which sounds about right. Absolutely fucking rotten people.
No.17347
>>17346>Eastern devs say that Rio and lemniscate will no longer update their maps>no further explanation They most likely were like this because they figured it was their problem not theirs and figured the only solution was to just say that they were banned from working on 2kki and that’s it
However at the same time I also wonder why the fuck they didn’t nuke their worlds from the game did they just figure that people would separate the art from the artist or something if so that’s kind of a stupid and lazy decision ngl
No.17348
>>17344>>17346I see the japanese making fannart of his NPCs sometimes and I think an NPC in one of his worlds eventually became a wearable mask now so either they don't know the full story or they don't care.
>>17347>However at the same time I also wonder why the fuck they didn’t nuke their worlds from the game did they just figure that people would separate the art from the artist or something if so that’s kind of a stupid and lazy decision nglI mean you kind of answered that one yourself, no matter how many temper tantrums wataru has had people still cream themselves over his worlds despite how much he has gone out of his way to fuck the game over.
I personally find the switch up on Rio's shitty-dollar-store-wataru worlds from the western side absolutely hysterical considering the same people that now scoff at them dick rode them to hell and back just before that.
No.17349
>>17348Ooooh, but you see, he was a PEDOPHILE! A PEDOPHILE!
No.17350
>>17349You mean an insecure, furry, flavour of mexican was a pedophile?
Who would have seen that one coming, anon.
No.17354
>>17336>HAL in the Hall of FamePlease explain
No.17355
>>17348>I personally find the switch up on Rio's shitty-dollar-store-wataru worlds from the western side absolutely hysterical considering the same people that now scoff at them dick rode them to hell and back just before that.Well, before wataru came back a lot of users didn’t have a point of comparison or reference for Rio’s work, so that certainly explains some of it. When comparing the knock-off maps to the originals, there’s a pretty clear difference in quality. Wataru’s maps have the same kind of post-industrial and stagnant water aesthetics as Rio, but wataru’s actual level design is significantly better. His work was very good at creating the illusion of scale while (with a couple of exceptions like Cosmic world; they can’t all be winners) being mostly pretty straightforward to navigate and content being distributed appropriately (large maps have a lot of stuff on them spread out, small maps don’t have a lot of negative space, that sort of thing).
Rio straight up did not understand how to execute this effect so he actually went and created the illusory space and it makes all his maps overly large and cumbersome to navigate with nothing to see and a lack of a real sense of progression through a location (compare how the Abandoned Town and the Apartments have distinct zones whereas Rio’s maps are mostly homogenous).
Additionally, seeing that most of Rio’s work was extremely derivative probably also dampened the enthusiasm, even if people don’t know about the grooming shit. It’s like watching a “safe” sequel late in a franchise and then watching the original and discovering like 95% of everything that’s cool about it is just copied from the older work. It just feels empty.
Also, Abandoned Hospital is like a bottom 3 map in not just 2kki but like any fangame I’ve played. It genuinely floors me that 2kki still refuses to implement any kind of oversight to prevent people from creating stuff that mechanically awful.
No.17357
>>17347>why the fuck they didn’t nuke their worlds from the game did they just figure that people would separate the art from the artist or something if so that’s kind of a stupid and lazy decision nglKnowing how Rio named Wintry Clifs and Tomb of Velleities after the victim's suggestions, possibly to score some points with them and advance the grooming process, it's kinda hard to separate the art from this whole thing
No.17360
>>17357Absolutely, this is why that mindset infuriates me. I know this happened years ago and this might be beating a dead horse at this point; but god damn, the impact he had on the game was DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for this grooming shit. When you travel through Rio's worlds in 2kki you are viewing content that was used to establish a pedophile into a position of power. Rio was intentionally using his popularity from his involvement in Yume 2kki to make his victim feel special and lure him in deeper. I don't know how this is so difficult for people to understand. "Separate the art from the artist" my ass, shit's fucked.
No.17361
The lesson to be learned from this all is: People putting their shitty mspaint worlds in 2kki matters more than the victims of pedophiles.
No.17363
>>17361That sounds about right lol
No.17364
>>17357>>17360not sure if thats what it really means to separate art from artist but sure ubuu
No.17366
>>17357>>17360Worse, the worlds were left in because of the victim's wishes.
To all potential groomers, this means if you groom hard enough, your legacy will live on forever thanks to the power of stockholm syndrome!
No.17367
can we just ban all mention of this dogshit game
nobody likes it
nobody likes the characters
nobody likes the developers
just fukken nuke it lmao, our argentittian friend has done more for less
No.17372
>>17370I mean, the fangames wiki shows that there’s been plenty of new releases even in recent years.
Though, I guess most of them are rubbish from the dream diarrhea jam.
No.17373
>>17372i rated braingirl, even though it's as dead as a dingbat and only has a few worlds
its artistically pleasing and it sticks to a lot of the same cool mesoamerican motifs yume nikki did, you might honestly like it even if it is kind of still dotted with the pitfalls of a modern fangame
No.17374
>>17373>dotted with the pitfalls of a modern fangameWhat are those?
No.17375
>>17374evil chungus foreshadowing that doesnt pay off at all; once again just a result of it falling into the pit of unreleased fagnames
try it for yourself, here's the link
https://www.mediafire.com/file/58tdhg671pltcmf/BRAINGIRL_Test_Build_2.zip/file No.17376
>>17375The chasers have pink eyes, don’t they?
No.17377
>>17376i dont actually remember lmao
No.17378
>>17376Except for the fishes, yeah.
No.17379
I have not played 2kki in a bit, but I want to know, is the new remake of Foliage Estate ass, or is it good?
No.17382
>>17379It's easier to navigate, at least.
No.17384
>>17373By the way, there was going to be an update of that game, now I don't know what happened…
No.17385
>>17384yuh, i was talking to the dev on *cough* discord, and they seemed to have a pretty clear vision for the future. wonder what happened? the game was pretty sick though. it did a lot of stuff with mesoamerican imagery, which, despite being one of the coolest parts of yume nikki, isn't really iterated upon in fangames.
No.17390
>>17385>yuh, i was talking to the dev on *cough* discord, and they seemed to have a pretty clear vision for the future. wonder what happened?Disillusionment, burn out, or just moving on to other things, could be anything.
Most fangames are spur of the moment passion projects that almost never make it to end phase because of how time and resource consuming they turn out to be depending on both your skill set and the standard you set out for them, resulting in either 5-year-at-best tier infrequent updates or straight up abandonment.
Part of the reason people still bother with 2kki despite how negative discussion of new versions has gotten is because it at least updates frequently and gives something for people to chew on(and well the online makes it extremely accesible and easy to pick up)
>it did a lot of stuff with mesoamerican imagery, which, despite being one of the coolest parts of yume nikki, isn't really iterated upon in fangames.I've seen a lot of fangames that tried to recreate it with various degrees of success/failure, the ones that failed normally just copied the original game without knowing why they were there and how they applied to Madotsuki's dream world specially, Yume Gatari is the most egregious example that comes to mind of this.
No.17391
>>17385Interesting. Anyway, what I mean, they announced a release date on YNO, but was strange to not see anything since that
No.17392
I unironically enjoy most of modern 2kki except aediorugap, his maps are the equivalent of Yume Nikki fast food.
No.17393
>>17392Much people agree that they improved. The weird conditions for completing things still, but at least art is not such bad, in most examples.
