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>>11317 No.16459
I feel like I'm just being delusional and old but I remember being super into 2kki around 2017-2018 because it still elicited a very specific feeling, one which I don't get much anymore when playing the game now. I'm not sure if it's the new online nature that changed it for me but I feel like it started before then. I'm saying this because I got the feeling again when watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALjswC_iej0It's like a specific dark atmosphere is present… the color black is used extensively to create contrast and add depth to objects in a certain way, this is a pretty crucial component of 20's artstyle but it's present in mostly all the early authors' worlds. Objects are more likely to do unexpected things, there is a general feeling that you should expect the unexpected and that even a cute looking world could change to something weird or unnerving easily. There is more focus on collecting effects because the game is smaller, interactivity in each world is generally higher.
The original Yume Nikki always had a sense of depression overlaying the whole game, I think what made 2kki special is that it didn't and you genuinely couldn't expect what would come next. There seems to be an inclination for newer worlds to stick to a singular tone only as to avoid CUTE THING BECOMES EDGY cringe, yet older worlds pulled it off very well - take Japan Town for example, where the cheerful main street becomes the creepy hotel, or in Flying Fish World where a calm open space leads to a strange laughing woman. Even the best modern authors like Qxy generally don't do this and I wish they would
No.16460
>>16459>CUTE THING BECOMES EDGY cringepicrel
not to derail the thread, but i don't think i can put into words how much i despise omori… the lol random humor, five years out of date… the use of self-harm for shock value… the terrible combat… the weeaboo-baiting art style… it's the epitome of ass.
No.16472
>>16462nuked better atmosphere in the name of originality or whatever. can't stress enough how much i hate murasaki no yume (and colby), even outside of making shit worlds they are annoying as people
these kind of people make the ynfg community unbearable
>>16438Goldfish Pond, Alto, Claustrophobia, Abandoned Chinatown, Sushi Belt World
No.16473
>>16472>colbywhat the hell was he thinking when creating the bleeding mushroom world???
No.16474
am i wrong for not really getting the appeal of 2kki?
in yume nikki there was always a pervasive sense that you were missing something. that you could figure out the underlying story if only you looked hard enough. if only you tried. even if there's nothing there it did a great job at having some consistent themes and easter eggs that kept you wondering.
the problem with 2kki is that when you introduce multiple authors you lose the intrigue and the idea that there's some sort of underlying mystery that contributed so much to yn. am i retarded?
No.16475
>>164742kki should be taken as an art gallery and not a cohesive work, since that's essentially what it is. If you wanted something tighter and more thematic you still have games like .flow or yuque. But 2kki has always aimed to be expansive, for better or worse.
No.16476
>>16473>what the hell was he thinking when creating the bleeding mushroom world???oh i should add that i do think it's a beautiful world, but man. it's way too large.
No.16477
>>16472murasaki no yume annoyed me because it was obviously some autistic faggot girl who thought she was hot shit because she worked on a japanese game… which has literally been contributed to hundreds of other autistic faggot girls before and since.
there was a video she had on youtube where she showed off some slideshow she made in middle school. it was more cringeworthy than biting into a fucking lemon.
colby just makes dogshit worlds.
No.16479
>>16474unironically, the point is lost on you. it's a collective art project. there are little narratives told within certain artist's works, but there's no cohesive vision because that's the point. i'm not sure you grasped nikki's either because you seem to think there was an underlying narrative there.
No.16480
>>16477murasaki no yume's stuff was already kind of uninspired (or too inspired, depending on how you look at it) and it lacked identity. it still lacks identity even when they just explode brown onto their worlds like they did with night world. it's insane. it went from standing out while being similar to other artists to not standing out at all while also being ugly. it's hard to believe that's even possible.
colby is annoying but they're also literally 18 so whatever retarded shit they say can be disregarded anyway. frozen glade and primary estate are both fantastic though but everything else he's the primary author of is pretty forgettable. green star world is only memorable because three people latched onto it and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.
No.16481
>>16472 >>16477 >>16480I think a lot of the newer 2kki authors are the embodiment of what I really dislike about the game's current direction, I feel there are a lot of people who lack creativity and just resort to copying TikTok trends to the point of more or less copy pasting crap from Liminal Space and "Weirdcore" images into the game while bringing nothing new or creative to the table, half the time just because they want a slice of the 2kki fame pie.
Night World, for example, in its original incarnation looked to me like a straight copy paste of some weirdcore aesthetic compilation thing I'd find on YouTube, and then the author, like many others, also had the audacity to slap it right in the Nexus, which immediately gives their world more attention by virtue of being one of, if not the first world new players will see, and a "new" world that players will flock to because of how easy it is to access. To me this comes across as very attention-seeking, and it's not the only world that I think is like this, a lot of the new Nexus worlds give me this vibe.
I think creativity in the 2kki-space and the Yume Nikki Fangame space as a whole has become fettered by this weird culture people have made where new authors will act like they're these huge celebrities when in reality they just make levels for a game less than one percent of the world has heard about, which leads to some folks contributing for the sake of contributing. I can't know this for sure, I'm not a mind reader, but it definitely seems that way.
No.16482
>>16479you seem like a complete joy to be around
No.16509
>>16482>>16482He unironically does
No.16514
Opening the gates to the west was a mistake
No.16516
>>16514that and having no quality control anymore (COUGH COUGH, aediorugap)
No.16517
>>16477How can you hate colby when he made the canvas
No.16518
>>16516Do the "core" devs even manage what makes the cut?
or do they only take action when people complain enough or whatever the fuck happened with GALAXY?
aedio and delta's worlds are genuine garbage
>>16477Can't say I'm surprised at hearing the person who made Bleeding Mushroom Garden aka "tee hee navigate this shitty map that is derivately designed to be a pain in the ass to explore" is in fact an annoying little shit that needs it's teeth kicked in.
At least he puts effort to his shit I suppose.
No.16519
>>16518Sometimes I feel the urge to make like 20 of the most awful, terrible, doggy doo doo worlds I could possibly come up with that just combine all of the things people hate about new 2kki worlds (No atmosphere, boring world design, connect to every damn world in the game) and then submit them to the game just to see if they get in.
No.16520
>>16519Lmao do it, the game's fucked already
I don't think you could get away with 20, but somewhere between 2-5 and I think you could do it
Be sure to include an unkillable NPC that reeks of Donut Steel self-insert OC
No.16522
>>16518>sometimes I wonder if I started a series of unpleasant events that can’t be undoneWell imo she only supplied the flamethrower
ynoproject started the inferno
No.16524
>>16522>ynoprojectthis, this so much.
underaged retards who only know the game because of muh Lotus Waters ost all need to be euthanised out of anything yume nikki related
No.16526
>>16522>>16524The bigger issue was the usual bughives of children and annoying white women finding it and turning it into their quirk chungus "aesthetic" thing. YNOproject making the game more accessible isn't necessarily a sin; the sin was not properly curtailing the mold colony of pronoun people and underages who just consume and corrupt without contributing, or who contribute in very superficial or even detrimental ways. Stronger quality control and a sterner approach to YNOproject's community of tertiaries was necessary. Past tense, of course, because it's no longer possible now to fix it.
No.16528
>>16527yeah, and it's for the best that all the freaks have one place to be in instead of spreading around the community like locusts.
No.16529
>>16527It's my go to as well when an interesting update for 2kki pops around, I don't have to bother installing the rpg maker shit when I switch pcs either which is pretty swell.
I played Tsushin among other fangames there as well
It just sucks making something accesible leads into people with 0 online etiquette being annoying and loud over their new toy
No.16530
>>16529Getting the RPG Maker shit and Japanese locale up and running filtered pretty much all of the annoying brats that
>>16526 mentioned, especially when the only English patch was for a really early version. For the most part, you really had to be dedicated to even touch this game which I felt made 2kki a lot higher-quality overall.
God I wish YNO stayed down forever, I fucking KNEW this was going to happen eventually as soon as it became a thing
No.16531
>>16530Is it really a huge deal?
No.16533
>>16531it impacts fanwork
it impacts the kind of people that want to contribute to the game
it impacts the game itself
why do you think the mask feature was whored out for the online kiddies to customize themselves
why do you think menu themes are not nearly as special as they were like 10 years ago just for, again, the sake of customization and devs ham-fisting an excuse for people to visit their worlds
do I have to bring up the badge-slop which is more of the same?
devs pandering to people who see 2kki as a Club Penguin tier online hanging spot just for some crumbs of e-fame has become the norm, and sadly I don't think there's way back after all the damage that has already been done
all this is probably the reason why the japs were against YNO at first, and only resigned because a certain someone forced them to, so yeah thanks for that I guess Hujle.
No.16535
>>16534>I wonder if one day someone's going to make a Yume 2kki Redux of only the best worlds, interconnected in a way to flow better.I honestly really like the idea of a 2kki Redux. I hope someone here will make something like that someday.
No.16537
>>16534I'd say play the version before Wataru had his monthly melty and took off his worlds for like a year, I think that was when the game was at it's best before the flood of the west happened and the uncreative nippons that add 50+ maps worth of slop per update joined in
There's some modern devs that are very much worth it like Moriwo or qxy but I can't really speak for whatever garbage some others try to interconnect to their worlds nowadays (although I believe their routes are fairly isolated still)
Anyways, hopefully we will see the day one of the core devs gets fed up enough to make a necessary purge of all the garbage that has been added over the years
No.16538
>>16537Nah play 0.034 that’s the best version of all time
No.16542
Is there any place where I can actually read about what the "inner devs" are working on? Or if they care about the slop being dumped into the game? I assume its probably all goes down in dms, but im just curious
No.16543
>>16542The current(?) 5channel threads I guess but do take this with a grain of salt because they could just be dumping updates in there and that's it.
I've never been there, I'm too lazy to set up a VPN.
A lot of devs do have socials nowadays so they trash talking each other privately *is* more than likely.
Not really an example of of this happening but qxy for befriended Wataru so we at least know they interact to some degree
https://x.com/d648455876/status/1743940022431338810 No.16544
>>16543Really, if you have a special interest in a dev just try finding out their socials from their wiki page and see what they are up to
https://x.com/moriwo_2kki some do talk about their work in 2kki and share sneak peaks, others……..well.
No.16545
>>16542you assume that core developers even care about this made-up problem. in fact, they look down upon other developers who do. to answer your question, there is no centralized place where all the developers talk to each other casually. there's a few discords where you can see developers like 2i9 and 710 join VC pretty frequently, but 95% of the time they're not talking about development
No.16550
having trouble getting menu theme 100 because a retard wanted to use their totally-not-Yukata donnut steel OC for some shitty chase sequence that teleports you around the world while being an eyesore
kill meme challenges
No.16551
>>16550and with that all menu themes are obtained
should grind wallpapers and music but don't really feel like it, gonna eat a pizza
No.16553
>>16526trvth nvke
>>16534check out ≤0.100 releases. shit is cash.
No.16557
https://youtu.be/oZNuKhYLNHA?feature=sharedLmao just found out that an ai track was once in 2kki
Thank god they nuked it in a recent update
No.16560
>>16558Yeah and good thing we ain’t getting his shitty worlds anymore cuz he was kicked off the 2kki dev team for being too homophobic and tried to disguise himself as another person named ferdy and was banned for life after he was caught
No.16561
>>16560noildoof was right
No.16562
fags deserve no respect(True, true. I agree with your statement. However, this isn't a nice way to put it.)
No.16563
>>16562He was an extremely annoying autistic furry faggot himself, so take that as you will.
Worse part is that he wasn't the first mentally ill gay furry to shit all over 2kki with some shitty discordian drama, he's like the 3rd or 4th.
Almost as if there's a pattern.
No.16569
>>16565
Galaxy
No.16570
>>16569That wasn't discord
No.16572
>>16565
Rio and another guy who's involvement was erased from the game's existence called Para(?)something
No.16574
Say whay you will about western authors but the worst map in the game (Floral Crossworlds) is made by a japanese dev
No.16575
>>16574https://youtu.be/D4GyFpNI-5k?feature=sharedThe music is nice tho and does not deserve to be in this world
No.16583
>>16574Erythrocyte Maze is way worse as far as japanese devs go
No.16584
>>16575Well it's reused from another area so whatever
No.16585
>>16574>>16583Rural Farmlands beats both. The wheat titles don't even look like wheat. Ugliest world
No.16587
>>16586Even if it's bloated to no end, it's still a good fangame at the end of the day. There's a reason so many people play it.
No.16590
>>16589kek. this is probably going to get deleted but
it's funny how much the jannies have sperged out and gone full autismo discord mod since sei left No.16591
>>16587Just cut out all the western stuff and bad Japanese stuff
And hey presto the reason why people play 2kki
No.16592
>>16591I genuinely pity people that are playing the game from scratch in it's current state like
>>16534Echoing
>>16553 and recommending him (and everyone that isn't a tourist and actually enjoys yume nikki fangames as games and not as chatrooms) plays something along the lines of 100-105, much more fun to explore and a much more cohesive game overall, you can go back to the current version later on if you feel like it with your save file from there too I think so there's really no reason to stick to the mess of meme unlocks and unremarkable maps current 2kki suffers from
No.16594
>>16588>>16586AI-spamming avatarfag says what?
No.16595
I should also point out that 2i9 post was made during the time when japs were crying about me not removing their precious images from my funky website, and he was most likely not aware that my multiplayer was gone for a while now.
>>16590I won't touch you for saying that. Not sure about other mods/janitors.
>>16594Exactly what I said, little one. Read carefully.
No.16596
>>16594is there any way we can initiate a revolution and overthrow the tyrannical sped jannies? genuinely pissing me off
No.16597
>>16594Nothing that isn't a biased shit take out of spite as he has a personal vendetta against 2kki because he's always at odds with either:
The massively assblasted power tripping faggot that runs the english shitcord/wiki/YNO who also tried to cover for his fellow pedophilic shitcord groomers when shit hit the fan regarding Rio
The terminally online underaged they/them puritan annoyballs that deem him """problematic""" or whatever modern term zoomies use for edgelord now
Or the gooks because of him stealing shit from them constantly effectively becoming the martyr of everything they hate about westabrappers.
Despite him being as abhorrent and as faggy as you expect your typical D tier e-celeb like him to be he's proved himself to be a necessary evil against the quantity of retardos that try to wipe out their yume nikki related fan creations from the internet, so, ganbare ganbare hujle-tan, even if you are a piece of shit your archival efforts are appreciated.
Still, pretty fucking sad how small communities like this become tainted due to all the dramafaggotry and grifting fests among personality autists like him and everyone else I mentioned engage in.
Current 2kki is a reflection of it's fanbase, never forget that when you see crappy mspaint world number 10000# when playing new updates.
>>16596It's futile, this vomitive shithole is way past it's prime and all the people who cared are gone.
Only thing you can do is leave for greener pastures, normie out, or kill yourself No.16599
>The massively assblasted power tripping faggot that runs the english shitcord/wiki/YNO who also tried to cover for his fellow pedophilic shitcord groomers when shit hit the fan regarding Rio
Who?
No.16601
Do you wish that things went back to all the pre-drama 2kki days, anons?
There is a catch though, no more Wataru. Ironically enough, he's been the original drama queen of the community alongside GALAXY.
No.16603
>>16601>No more Wataru As good as his worlds are I was always of the opinion that he should have just created his own fangame.
No.16604
>>16597I'm glad we have a common agreement on the majority of things, anon-chan.
:3Without those "people", our precious little community would be perfect. But the damage has already been done and there's no way to avert it.
Fine, enough fandom complains, back to game talk.
It's still shit. No.16605
>>16585Eh, that's ROKU95's whole aesthetic, for better or worse, I don't think it's uglier than any of their other worlds
No.16606
>>16603I'm surprised he hasn't yet, it could easily be beloved.
No.16607
>>16606It would have also given him more freedom to do whatever he wanted instead of being pressured for being the most prolific author in 2kki.
No.16609
He's too mentally ill to do so at this point. Hell, he has been for over a decade by now
Ever watched one of those "artist does their own thing, suddenly becomes popular, their personality melts down afterwards" videos? That's Wataru's history, give or take
>automated request deez nuts
No.16610
what are some worlds and authors you guys like from modern 2kki?
No.16611
>>166102da worlds are great, especially their soundtracks
No.16612
>>16609"The best artists are the mentally ill" as they say.
No.16614
>>16599You could be talking about like 3 people TBH
No.16616
>>16615this is not an elaborate shitpost
YES THIS IS REAL and you can find it in rock world
No.16617
>>16615>>16616You cannot be fucking serious right now
No.16618
>>16615charming meta joke i guess but holy fuck
No.16619
>>16615Dear god it’s all over
Yume 2kki is dead
No.16621
>>16615Betting this is immediately gonna get nuked in the next update
No.16622
>>166152kki is dead and westerners killed it.
No.16623
>>16615Looks better than most shit that gets added nowadays even if it's a joke
>>16622Map is made by an eastie you dingus
No.16624
>>16615Please tell me the other new worlds are better than this.
No.16625
Thing is: There is no "dream-like" stuff in the new maps. Like creatures and etc. like the Red Rock Cave creatures or that sheep from the beach that shoves the chainsaw down Uro's throat
No.16628
>>16626Also, for some reason uboachan made me post the image again..?
No.16631
Hey, at least it's not a Yume Nikki clone!
No.16632
Expectations status:
[ ] not subverted
[ ] subverted
[x] subverted as HECK
No.16634
>>16625Neither of the authors that made those worlds are active anymore, that's why.
Also 20 leaving who managed and directed 2kki back then probably factored in the quality recession that there's nowadays, I miss when the shittiest thing that made the cut in 2kki were wallpapers No.16635
20 never "managed" or "directed" anything, that's just a baseless rumor among Westerners.
No.16636
>>16635What makes you believe the lead dev of 2kki didn't have any input in regards to what his fellow authors did?
No.16637
Because he never was a "lead dev" nor has such a role even really existed.
Have you even read the production thread archives at 2ch?
No.16638
>>16637Either provide a source with said threads or I don't give a shit.
No.16639
>>16638You don't give a shit you're talking out of your ass otherwise? Wow, anon, you're such a rebel!
But here you go, all the threads linked in one place:
https://wikiwiki.jp/yumenikki-g3/%E9%81%8E%E5%8E%BB%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B0%E5%80%89%E5%BA%AB No.16640
>>16639You seem to be confused, I don't give a shit about you being a condescending little faggot that just discredits shit without providing a source.
20 being the head/lead/manager of 2kki it's something that has been said for literal years in the foreign community and unless a japanese
But sure thanks for the link, you aren't completely useless.
No.16642
I have no idea who came up with that and based on what, but as far as the actual recorded facts go, it's bullshit.
No.16643
this is some military-grade autism right here. you guys could give suburban japan a run for its money
