Anonymous 02/10/16 (Wed) 17:07:57 No. 11335
Wataru maps when! Going to the Planetarium and to the Depths are my favorite journies in the game, I really hope Wataru pulls through with the Rose Church. There's so much buildup waiting on what will be behind that door in the alleyway.
Anonymous 02/10/16 (Wed) 17:21:15 No. 11336
Some anon sent him a message, and he replied that he's working hard to put more material on the next updates.
Anonymous 02/13/16 (Sat) 18:49:12 No. 11338 >>11337 >ここは胡麻横丁。本家のバラック集落を意識して作成しました。怖そうだけど怖くないイメージから胡麻横丁(sesame street)というネーミングにしました。 >Here we are in the Sesame street. I created it with the original barracks' settlement in mind. It looks eerie but I named it after the non-scary sesame street.
I never watched Sesame Street so I don't know if "barracks' settlement" is a correct translation.
I could translate the other commentaries but I don't have 2kki on my HDD and I'm lazy to download it, so that will have to wait.
Anonymous 02/14/16 (Sun) 01:54:03 No. 11341 >>11335
Pure speculation here, but seeing as most of his maps lead to menu themes, would this possibly mean that there's going to be an ending that involves collecting all the menu themes, much like there being an ending for all the wallpapers and another for the secret events/seeds?
Also, I'd love it if there were more areas to connect to this one. It seems odd that somewhere like this has so few connections.
Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 15:22:51 No. 11360
Can anyone tell what's new in it?
Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 19:02:22 No. 11361
There's 10 new maps apparently, sweet!
Anonymous 02/19/16 (Fri) 01:43:23 No. 11365
I'd actually be willing to help with that project if someone could point me toward existing resources regarding the game. I havn't played in literal ages (ver0.086e_eng)
Anonymous 02/19/16 (Fri) 03:21:27 No. 11366
If I knew how to code and edit wiki shit I'd have done it ages ago, sounds like something I really wanna do though
Anonymous 02/19/16 (Fri) 03:28:38 No. 11367
Wikis use templates, so it's piss easy to learn how to edit them. Give it a try.
You guys should open a IRC channel or something and start concreting stuff, otherwise this will stay as just an idea on this thread and nobody will get anything done.
Anonymous 02/23/16 (Tue) 10:09:39 No. 11379
I think the last time I played was in 2013, should I give it another shot?, is there interesting new content?
Issue Anonymous 02/28/16 (Sun) 11:16:24 No. 11397 >>11393
I'd really hate to turn this into a troubleshooting thread. Feel free mods to delete this if it's bothering anyone. But I'm just so close.
Everything works fine including loading saves but starting a new one just wont work.
Don't know if this is a common error or not. Wiki won't help nor will google.
Pic related is the issue. On windows 10 btw.
Anonymous 02/28/16 (Sun) 17:36:38 No. 11398 >>11397
Into the system folder it goes.
Name is システム.png
Anonymous 02/29/16 (Mon) 11:05:32 No. 11400
Oh wow. Thank you so much dude! Though, I did have to take the image from my rpg maker 2003 install and name it that instead of your file.
Now I've just gotta get that english patch working correctly.
Anonymous 03/03/16 (Thu) 21:12:12 No. 11406
Oh god what, Wataru drew a new picture of Urotsuki yesterday
He's not forgotten about this project? Morewatarunextupdate?
Anonymous 03/04/16 (Fri) 01:30:47 No. 11408
He was probably talking about www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55595401 since it was posted today and all that.
Don't get your hopes up, it may happen or it may not.
Anonymous 03/04/16 (Fri) 15:24:19 No. 11410
Well some other anon sent Wataru fanmail and Wataru responded saying he's working hard for the next update
Anonymous 03/06/16 (Sun) 17:26:55 No. 11412
What is the text at the start of the game?
Lumanare !G34Os4lEpE 03/14/16 (Mon) 21:54:33 No. 11440
For me, the whole GAME in my favorite Journey. Descending into Uro's mind, seeing her thoughts, and all the new content.
Anonymous 03/16/16 (Wed) 23:10:01 No. 11446
When did Wataru start contributing his maps? I really hope he adds/finishes more areas. The Planetarium was such a good payoff.
Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 14:06:23 No. 11460
Here ya go:
ver0.104e 16/03/18 kuraud (music:538(SR258) sound:241)
※MAP172 うろつき邸K部屋 行ったことがない繋ぎ部屋へは行けないように変更
Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 16:51:34 No. 11461
※A bug report for a transition in the MAP611 ladder.
※A replacement of wallpaper (No. 149) at request of the author.
※In the debug room, a sign to display the amount of input needed [NT: money, I'm guessing] was added in the vending machine Event.
A picture is worth more than a thousand words.
- Currently unusued old events ("0066: Setting of Old system", "0067: Cancellation of setting of old system") were eliminated.
The reason is simply so nobody triggers it by error.
・ I changed the joining of rooms at the other side of the elevator in my own personal debug room (MAP191).
※MAP141 Adjusted the fee and refund for playing in the slot game.
・MAP192 Added a note about a bug in the penguin game.
＋MAP614,615,616,617 Added a slip transition, but didn't change any element left on them.
Also, calling variables on map 614, 615 take to the same map as 144, and 616, 617 do that with 146 too.
◇×MAP199 Fixed the bug that prohibited to realize any action when touching the transition box above the ladder from the southern side.
◇※MAP172 The alphabet event of the thing in the northern part of K's room in Urotsuki's residence that pointed to a nonexistent unrelated indication was rewinded.
While I was at it, I also added a pattern in the lower part of the screen.
※MAP172 (K's room in Urotsuki's residence) In order not to go to the connecting room, a stop cone was added.
(In case there's a marked room where you couldn't access, it will display a red street light.)
(If there's a place you can't access, it will bounce you back like in FF6).
The last part is a suggestion on how to handle dev stuff.
Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 23:43:52 No. 11464
Thanks for the translation.
Anonymous 04/12/16 (Tue) 14:19:59 No. 11506
Does anyone have a download of yume 2kki up to date with a save file already in it? For some reason my game's completely screwed over
Anonymous 05/09/16 (Mon) 17:54:25 No. 11525
What's the last translated yume 2kki version? wiki's 0.101a?
Anonymous 05/25/16 (Wed) 16:37:21 No. 11566
Anyone willing to translate the patch notes for the new update?
＋MAP0022 夢幻図書館…本追加(条件あり) ＋MAP0693 夢書庫…本追加・拡張・イベント追加(区切られている場所は蝶からの移動でランダム。少しは本が読みやすいかなーと。狐が一部のエフェクトに反応) ＋MAP0697 彼岸花…イベント追加(夢書庫でとある本を読んだ上で、とあるエフェクトを使うと…) ♯MAP0698 金平糖…閉じ込めを回避した場合のあれは仕様です。バグではないのでご注意を ※MAP0699 星座…BGM変更(何度もごめんなさい。良いのが見つからなくて…) ＋MAP0711 蝶…行き先追加(水色・白) ※MAP0712 赤空崖…ちょこっとイベント変更 ＋MAP0713 蛍…季節感を少し追加(とあるエフェクトの状態で読む必要あり) ＋MAP0714 時の間…本追加 ＋MAP0715 八分音符…蝶追加(エフェクト必須) ＋MAP0716 小部屋…マップ追加(ランダムで様子変化) ＋MAP0717 楽譜…マップ追加 ＋MAP0718 みずたま…マップ追加
Anonymous 05/25/16 (Wed) 18:38:19 No. 11567
I don't know some things mentioned in the text so I kinda did my best with the little context I had. I also don't remember some of the english names for the places so I translated them as literally as I could.
+Map0022 Dream Library… Book added (With conditions *)
+Map0693 Dream Book Storage… Book added - Expanded - Event added (Accessing the delimited place with the butterfly is random**. I thought that reading the book was a little too easy. The fox reacts to one of the effects).
+Map0697 Higanbana… Added event (It triggers if you read a certain book in the Book Storage, or use a certain effect…).
#Map0698 Confetti… in case being caught is avoided
is there. There are no bugs so be careful.
※Map0699 Constelation… changed BGM (Sorry for doing it over and over again. I can't find something fitting…).
+Map 0711 Butterfly… added a destination (Light blue, white).
※Map0712 Red sky cliff… I changed the events a little.
+Map0713 Firefly… I added a bit of a sense of seasons.*** (Activates when a condition of certain effect is readed).
+Map0714 Time gap… added a book.
+Map0715 Talisman of the 8th note… added a butterfly (Effect required).
+Map0716 Small room… map added (the appearance changes randomly).
+Map0717 Score sheet… map added.
+Map0718 Drop of water… map added.
*I don't know if he's referring that you need to fulfill a condition to use it or if the book was required.
**I think, I hate these kind of ambiguous sentences. "As for separated area, it's random through movement from butterfly".
Anonymous 05/25/16 (Wed) 18:45:46 No. 11568 >>11567
Yeah, I forgot the last note:
***季節感 literally translates as "Sense of seasons", but I'm guessing it means that the appearance of the map changes (Like, from summer to winter, or autumn, or something like that). I'm not sure though.
Anonymous 05/26/16 (Thu) 15:47:41 No. 11569
Thank you for the translation! Looks like it's just a few new things here and there.
Anonymous 06/01/16 (Wed) 23:28:38 No. 11578
Curious, does anyone know how to get to mini-town now? The wiki isn't exactly up to date, or accurate
Anonymous 06/06/16 (Mon) 23:57:57 No. 11599
Has anyone figured out what effect you need to make the pink butterfly appear?
Anonymous 06/07/16 (Tue) 08:20:34 No. 11600
Ah, I was wandering around Stone Maze and stumbled upon Kanashii-tan… I wanted to find what effects would make her react, so I was going through what effects I had. Then I selected the instruction page and the screen flashed.. red? Glitched up? Something of that sort. Then my character woke up on the floor. I was still wearing the grave head effect.
I'm wondering if she causes that, or if there is a very low chance of that happening when you use it..? Did not get any screencaps, sadly.
Anonymous 06/07/16 (Tue) 08:21:50 No. 11601
Version .104e, by the way.
Anonymous 06/15/16 (Wed) 20:51:41 No. 11615
Update 104.g is up, anyone want to translate the changes/additions?
ver0.104g パッチ1 16/06/13 kuraud (music:487(SR258) sound:250)[曲変更なし] ×MAP0142 FC迷宮 セーブデータ引き継ぎ時に一人称視点にならなくなることがあるバグを修正 ※MAP0142 FC迷宮 装飾追加 ×MAP0020 夢幻図書館 暗号の2ページ目に書き間違いがあったのを修正 ×MAP0192 ぺんぎんゲー ほほつね中に長押し動作ができるバグを修正 ver0.104g 16/06/05 spelude (music:487(SR258) sound:250) -いくつかのマップの接続やそれに使用していたファイル削除 ※MAP0020 夢幻図書館 自作の本の出現条件緩和 ※MAP0711 蝶 オブジェクトや行き先変化 ver0.104fパッチ3 16/05/31 natl (music:558(SR258) sound:250) ×「map703 カクテル」 一部カクテルのグラフィックを修正・変更 ×「map701 メヒコ」 葬式会場で頬をつねると一瞬元のグラフィックに戻ってしまうのを修正 ※「map701 メヒコ」 マップチップ修正＆一部マップデザイン変更 －「map704」「map705」（中途半端なところが多いため削除しました） ＃map704、705を削除したため、現在ゲーム内で使用されていないファイルがいくつかございます（下記の二つです） 今回パッチ形式で出しているため、これらのファイルの削除ができませんでした。 不躾なお願いで恐縮ですが、どなたか削除していただければ幸いです。 「natl_map4.png」「autumn2_Anon.wav」
Anonymous 06/16/16 (Thu) 02:53:15 No. 11616
Small bugfixes and really little additions (details).
Anonymous 06/20/16 (Mon) 22:56:44 No. 11618
You should be able to tell more or less by eyeballing a changelog whether wataru has updated. Wataru has maps 0511-0590 reserved for his use. You can see that there are 11 maps not currently in use under his name (0577-78; 0580; 0583-0590), and a couple of others that are clearly unfinished and under construction. So if the changelog mentions changes to maps in ranges 0511-0590, then you'll know instantly that he's updated.
Anonymous 07/31/16 (Sun) 15:48:35 No. 11735
I can't download from Getuploader either; I get a 503 error when I try to download part 2 for 104g.
Anonymous 08/29/16 (Mon) 21:57:48 No. 11782
Kind of a noob here. Last time I came to uboa was about a year ago- I saw 2kki but told myself I shouldn't check it out until there's a english patch for the final version. Main game has updated since then, but I'm pretty sure Psiwolf hasn't updated the patch (or my memory is just fuzzy.) Does anyone know if he's still working on it? Also, at what point do the 2kki devs plan on saying the game is finished- if any at all?
Anonymous 08/31/16 (Wed) 02:47:22 No. 11784
When will the english ver sync with the latest ver?
Anonymous 08/31/16 (Wed) 02:51:26 No. 11785
There's no "official english translation" whatsoever. The english patches done in the past were basically the goodwill of some people who happened to translate the latest version of yume 2kki at the time. In other words, there are no plans for a english 2kki unless someone becomes interested in translating it, and, so far, it doesn't seem likely.
Anonymous 08/31/16 (Wed) 06:41:02 No. 11786
Sad to hear. brb learning moonrunes.
Anonymous 09/12/16 (Mon) 21:24:28 No. 11805
I fucking did it. I managed to play this fucking game.
Windows 7 64bit.
Downloaded 0.104h plus patch1 from the main site.
Download Japanese rpgmaker2000 rtp from the main site (and all the others including English 2003, XP, VC and Ace)
1. Installed applocale using cmd with admin privs. command is as given on instalation instructions
2. Used applocale (with admin privs - you gotta look for the exe in the windows folder and make a shorcut) to install the Japanese rpgmaker2000 rtp (and all the other jap ones)
3. Used applocale to extract Yume 2kki form it's exe.
4. Use applocale to play the game and make a shorcut
Now I'm trying to see if I can make papplocale (that msi the replaces applocale by letting open an exe with jap locale through a right switch) work so I don't need to make a shortcut every time I want to play a Jap game. Seems to actually replace applocale which I'm not sure if I want it.
Also papplocale can be obtained from here
Additionally, you may use 7zip to extract jap .zips as it has an option to extract with the jap locale.
Anonymous 09/13/16 (Tue) 04:29:01 No. 11806
Question! Is it possible to use JoyToKey with this game? how?
Anonymous 09/14/16 (Wed) 17:07:44 No. 11810
Yes I do it all the time.
Anonymous 09/15/16 (Thu) 00:19:21 No. 11811
How? When I run it in Japanese Locale JoyToKey does not seem to find it. Without the locale it works but that's not playable obviously.
Anonymous 09/24/16 (Sat) 11:12:32 No. 11819
Changelog for the new versions 104h and 104i, anyone mind translating?
ver0.104i 16/09/20 spelude (music:502(SR258,分室80) sound:252) [music:15 sound:2 追加(SRは変化なし)] ◇MAP0620 SR分室 一部の曲のテンポを原曲通りに修正(ほぼ趣味なので上書きして消しても問題ないです) ＋MAP0692 絵本の中 マップ追加。イベントを起こすとパイプオルガンへ移動(一方通行) ＋MAP0719 還良逝怖 マップ追加 ＋MAP0720 混沌 マップ追加 ＋MAP0717 絵本 マップ追加 ※MAP0695 雲の上 とある浮遊物体にMAP0720への移動フラグ設置 ※MAP0711 蝶 狐にMAP0712 赤い空の崖・MAP0714 時の間(文字ありのみ)への移動フラグ設定(エフェクト必須) 条件で桃色の蝶出現 ※MAP0713 螢 てるてるぼうずをエフェクト解除から使用禁止に変更。コウモリのエフェクト解除を廃止 ・MAP0697 彼岸花 前から設置していたイベントをやや編集。マップ名を彼岸花に変更 ・MAP0694 森の中 上を向いている時のみ見上げられるように変更 ・MAP0716 小部屋 イベントやや編集。MAP0717への移動フラグ設置 ・MAP0718 みずたま オブジェクト追加。移動フラグ仮設置(今は移動しません)。てるてるぼうずで晴らせてしまうバグ修正 ＃MAP0720移動はまだ試し置きの為、到達難易度かなり高め(確率ではない) ＃絵本は素材まとめのマップ案より。そこそこ再現できたと思います。uxiru様に感謝 ＊狐は弱っていると回復が失敗しやすい ver0.104h 修正パッチ1 16/09/12 12部屋目の310 (music:487(SR258,分室87) sound:250)[曲変更なし] ×ｺﾓﾝ167：更新作業中の処理消し忘れたのでその修正（とうめいの動作）。ホントすまん ＋MAP620：余計なイベントを片付けて曲目調整 ver0.104h 16/09/11 12部屋目の310 (music:487(SR258,分室80) sound:250)[曲変更なし] ＋MAP2,620：SR分室を通常プレイヤー用に本実装。現実PC＞MUSICから 曲目数はこれから増える（いつ増えるかは未定）。今までのSRとは開放率計算が違うが、SREDに飛ぶ閾値は同じ ＋ｺﾓﾝ2,41,MAP456：殺傷数によって発生する起床時イベント追加 殺傷累積数がキリのいい時に発生。前後編の2本立て。某壁紙が元ネタだがその壁紙が貰えるようにはしてない ※MAP230：製作者部屋からのSR分室リンクを旧SR（SR本室）とに置き換え ×MAP6：SRED中に別イベント用のキャラが湧かないよう修正 ×到達判定のされないMAPに対策。MAP453(0,0)-EV5-1、MAP604(9,11)-EV2-1、MAP567(4,2)-EV17-1の3箇所 －SR分室関連の不使用素材を削除 ・MAP6：SR本室のランダム再生幅を1～258へ拡張 ◇MAP457,620：SREDの登場キャラ幅を拡張。ついでに番号被りしてたキャラに番号振り直し 2回目以降なら行動次第で裏SREDへ ＃デバッグ中、MAP457(2,7)EV27を調べるとスタッフ名簿部分だけ見れる 製作wikiとcopyrighit.txt足して羅列しただけだから重複とかあると思う ＃documentフォルダに分室の曲目ごとの設定状況をまとめたcsvファイルを入れといた このファイル自体を更新する必要はないが、素材の使用状況が分かるんでファイル上書き更新する人は便利かもしれん
Anonymous 09/29/16 (Thu) 23:15:32 No. 11833
All I can tell you is no Wataru
Anonymous 10/14/16 (Fri) 02:29:07 No. 11850
It looks like Wataru deleted his pixiv profile
Anonymous 10/20/16 (Thu) 01:48:35 No. 11853 >>11833 >>11850
The wonders of research, fellow anon. 2kki HQ is a thing; and running its Staff Page by someone with knowledge of runes (like myself) would've saved you months of crippling uncertainty.
…Ah, you probably don't know what that means, do you? Here, I'll translate it for you:
"22 May 2016 - Withdrawal from project" R.I.P. wataru Updates.
Hopefully y'all have other reasons to play future versions of 2kki. (Consider these two: oudn and Zenmaigahara.)
Anonymous 10/20/16 (Thu) 14:49:08 No. 11854
That only means Wataru's maps won't be updated anymore, right? They won't be removed or anything like that.
Anonymous 10/21/16 (Fri) 03:27:09 No. 11856
Somehow I'm detecting a lot of salt from you.
Anonymous 10/23/16 (Sun) 03:14:57 No. 11857
No, not at all! If you take a gander at the top of the change log .txt file for version 0.105, there's a snippet of text across from wataru's name: 「改変自由です」.
—That is, anyone is "free to change/update" his material. ;D
Translator OP speaking! Nothing but low sodium levels on my end. ^^ b I was for a time quite salty about spelude's decision to go bananas with conducting maintenance on, like, *all* of his content over the last few months. (I still haven't reached Innocent- and Fantasy Libraries~) kuraud's and yeris's fixes weren't nearly as intrusive as his.
You seem to have mistaken my sarcasm for salt. I feel like the only player who doesn't exalt wataru like WOAH. He's definitely a top-notch talent, but one ought to be mindful of the contributions of others (especially those who headed the project!).
(Though admittedly I too now feel like punching a certain pink catgirl in the dev room….)
Morsse 10/27/16 (Thu) 02:19:22 No. 11862
According to wiki, using the computer in the Warehouse will take you to either the Green or Blue Binary World. I've (painstakingly) traveled to the computer like 23 times and it hasn't taken me to Green Binary once. Is this a bug or is my luck just really that bad?
Anonymous 10/28/16 (Fri) 20:41:33 No. 11864
Bad luck, probably.
I tried getting to the place a ton of times without success, so I decided I'd just open the game once a day to see if anything would happen. By chance, I actually finally got there today, hah.
Morsse 10/29/16 (Sat) 21:38:48 No. 11865
Yup, luck; finally got Green after a few more attempts. Now the only thing really barring me from 100% is wallpaper #97: I did all the requirements that the wiki listed multiple times. In the same dream session. Without using the Eye Bomb. And still nothing. Does it mean the Head Wasteland UFO or the Apartment UFO?
Anonymous 11/04/16 (Fri) 04:34:41 No. 11872
Ah, whoops. Sorry about that, then. It's so hard to figure out what's sarcasm and what's salt these days. Some of those statements just felt a bit too wordy and overly-polite to me. Not that there's anything wrong with being polite. It's just in this day and age, it's very easy to misinterpret it as something else, you know?
I like Wataru's maps, and I am a bit disappointed that they won't be updating them personally anymore, but I'm not a rabid fan. In fact, I've enjoyed the maps that have been added recently. And there are some maps that are really out of the way (the ones that are just water, and are either colored or sepia-toned. The sepia-toned one is accessible through the Spelling Room, and the other one is accessible through the Ruined City, I believe) are nice to look at, too.
Now if the entire game wasn't going to be updated anymore, that'd be a bigger reason to be upset.
Of course… the game's pretty much complete as it is. Multiple endings, lots of effects, lots of maps… All these updates are just extra stuff. So I guess there wouldn't be that big of a loss if the game stopped updating for good.
Anyways, sorry about the misunderstanding. No hard feelings, right?
Anonymous 11/07/16 (Mon) 10:30:13 No. 11873
I think the 2kki team is going to keep updating for one more year, then it's done.
Anonymous 11/08/16 (Tue) 00:46:32 No. 11874
>>11873 >2kki dead >.flow dead >YN dead
How long before Uboachan itself dies?
Anonymous 11/28/16 (Mon) 16:10:06 No. 11879
Did they say that themselves? If so, I think that's actually good. Better to actually be able to say it's finished than to have it be another infinitely wip fg. Actually now that I think about it, are there ANY fangames where the creator decided to stop updating because they felt the game was finished and not because they were just tired of updating it?
Anonymous 11/28/16 (Mon) 20:47:34 No. 11880
>>11879 >are there ANY fangames where the creator decided to stop updating because they felt the game was finished and not because they were just tired of updating it?
Miserere. RIP Owl, nobody remembers the guy anymore.
Anonymous 11/29/16 (Tue) 02:19:27 No. 11881
On the bright side, you've made me try it out. Pretty good so far
Anonymous 11/29/16 (Tue) 05:00:20 No. 11882
Owl lurks. They haven't made anything substantial in a while.
Anonymous 11/29/16 (Tue) 05:03:41 No. 11883
>>11882 >They haven't made anything substantial in a while
See what I say? Forgotten.
Okay, okay, I know it may not be the shit but he's still active and that happened just a while ago.
His artstyle is pretty rad too, but I wish he tried some other things. I should send him a message about that.
Anonymous 11/29/16 (Tue) 15:15:10 No. 11887
Played that when it came out. It was extremely short.
Anonymous 12/05/16 (Mon) 04:11:43 No. 11889
>>11875 >implying it is
What are you talking about? This is probably the most alive Uboachan has been in some time, if not it's whole life.
Anonymous 12/05/16 (Mon) 04:27:44 No. 11890 >>11889 >This is probably the most alive Uboachan has been in some time
>if not it's whole life.
You are certainly not and old user around here.
no can work Anonymous 12/30/16 (Fri) 20:44:44 No. 11981
Oky, so I'm playing the 105 a version. I don't see angels in the red lily orld with glasses on, the grave effect does nothing with the lily, how the hell do i get to the innocent library? I haven't played for like 10 versions, so I never saw it at all.
Anonymous 01/07/17 (Sat) 02:29:45 No. 11993
So…not sure if anyone else has run into this (the wiki has nothing on it at all), but for some reason, I'm suddenly able to leave Uro's room as I please when awake, leading me to this awefully familiar sight from the Dream Apartments. I am unable to recreate it currently, but preceding this, when waking up, I occasionally got the screen that
Unfortunately, whenever I open the patterned door, I get an error for a file missing, probably because I'm running this on wineskin. T.T I'm on the latest version and have completed almost everything (missing two wallpapers and a handful of tracks and menu themes).
Anonymous 01/20/17 (Fri) 05:03:18 No. 12005
That's the developer room. You get access to it after getting the first four endings (the standard endings). The wiki DOES have information on it, but doesn't have translations for what the people inside say, so…
It has a few rooms. One room is dedicated to music, giving you access to the old music listing, one has a bunch of artists' avatars… and I forget what the other one is meant to be. Either mapping or something like that.
It was only really significant before the latest updates, when the sound room inside the developer room contained tracks that weren't on Urotsuki's computer. Now that they switched the sound rooms, it's not too important.
Anonymous 02/12/17 (Sun) 05:26:10 No. 12072
Is it possible to share save files? If so I can run whatever the people in the dev room are saying through google translate
Anonymous 02/12/17 (Sun) 11:09:08 No. 12073
just use RPGmaker to edit the spawn point to the dev room, takes like 5 min
Anonymous 02/15/17 (Wed) 14:50:24 No. 12082
Will the new version get translated?
Anonymous 02/15/17 (Wed) 17:23:00 No. 12083
Why don't you start translating it yourself instead?
Anonymous 02/15/17 (Wed) 17:24:39 No. 12084
I would if I could read Japanese.. unless you want an Engrish google-translated version
Anonymous 02/15/17 (Wed) 17:27:33 No. 12085
1)- Grab the last english version
2)- Check the effects names
3)- Compare with jap
4)- Grab the new version
5)- Paste english names onto japanese
A)- If an effect name is unknown, consult somebody with japanese knowledge.
Anonymous 02/15/17 (Wed) 18:40:48 No. 12086
y even i managed to translate a really old version of .flow (including the event script and map names) just by the name of the items and context
Anonymous 03/02/17 (Thu) 21:30:36 No. 12111
Sorry for necroposting, but here's the link to version 0.105d if someone needs it:
Anonymous 03/04/17 (Sat) 09:43:16 No. 12117
It still is. Its called Realistic Beach. I don't know if its still up in the wiki though, never checked it for like years now.
Anonymous 05/16/17 (Tue) 17:09:41 No. 12271
2kki my favorite. I AM Urotsuki.
Anonymous 05/18/17 (Thu) 19:08:25 No. 12276
I kinda think wataru maps are way too overrated. They are extremely detailed and well programmed, but they're almost completely unnavigable otherwise. And there's practically no variety between them. They all look the same, just dark, gloomy ruins you can hardly see because of absolutely no lighting and there are fucking treetops everywhere keeping you from even seeing Urotsuki most of the time.
You don't even know where you're going half the time because the tiles aren't distinct, so you have no clue where you can walk. And all of his worlds are huge and empty with not much to do. I don't understand why the thread gets off over all of them because they hit a lot of the "bad yn fangame" points. Most are giant voids, you can't see what you're doing, and some are just giant mazes with no obvious things to do. The lamp world is even worse than the hell maze because of the constant bike disembarking to use the ladders. A few of them aren't that bad, but a lot of them aren't the greatest. And the cosmic world, which is rather unlike most of his maps in being bright and colorful, while being intriguingly designed, is still just a huge offense to the eyes and ears, and you still don't know where you're going because the tiles aren't marked clearly. Why do people let the huge technical flaws go?
Anonymous 05/19/17 (Fri) 09:29:32 No. 12283
I won't argue with you, but who do you feel does the best maps then?
I think oudn is underrated honestly, his maps are really comfortable.
Anonymous 05/19/17 (Fri) 18:49:25 No. 12289 >>12283
It's more personal preference honestly.
I liked oudn's earlier maps, but I'm also in the camp that thinks his updates made them feel pretty bland.
I guess my favorite map maker is 710? Their maps just feel kinda "squishy" and toy-like to me. I really dig the aesthetic. Though I do admit that an awful lot of them are just "diagonal walkways across weird ambient backgrounds", they still always have a large variety of monsters around them to grab your attention.
Natl shows a significant amount of potential as well. I'd like to see more maps by them.
Lumanare !G34Os4lEpE 05/20/17 (Sat) 14:45:26 No. 12292
I sit here and wonder what the fuck 710 is on some days to make that stuff. Probably isnt on anything, but the content makes me question that…
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 18:32:17 No. 12293
Is there a translation of it anywhere? A friend of mine wants to dev I think
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 18:32:59 No. 12294
I checked the wiki like yesterday, it still is
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 18:53:09 No. 12295
Give me the pic and I will translate the instructions.
Be wary though, that deving for 2kki wll more than likely require japanese knowledge to communicate with the team, so unless your friend knows japanese I don't see it as very feasible…
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 20:27:39 No. 12297
I actually just got there by coincidence. There's a butterfly in the world with the vomiting heart that takes you to a hub with a bunch of butterflies, and one of them takes you there
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 20:30:21 No. 12298
Wait no, scratch that, the butterfly is in the red spider lily world. Also I'm on a really old version, so it may be different
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 20:50:43 No. 12299 >>12296
The first part is basically "this is a yn fangame we're not the original idea" blah blah.
Yume 2kki is being developed as a "hobby" by the team.
Consequently there are many things that may not be implemented anytime soon (or ever).
If there is some idea, event, map or anything of the sort
you would like to modify or add, please join us in making the game.
If by your participation the development gets faster,
we will be able to go deeper with our objectives.
With a computer, anyone can make games.
With RPG Maker it's specially easy to create your own worlds.
We're recruiting mappers, artists, and muscicians/sound all the time.
Their wiki is in the titlescreen, that's where you can contact them. Alternatively, 2ch, but I don't know what board.
Anonymous 05/22/17 (Mon) 21:05:55 No. 12300
I have 0.104e, and the link in it just takes me to a 404 page. Could you maybe link the wiki?
Anonymous 05/23/17 (Tue) 00:45:03 No. 12301
I don't even have 2kki installed… remember, Google is your friend.
Also, guys, this Friday is the 10th year anniversary of 2kki. How are you guys going to celebrate Uro's birthday?
cokepes 06/06/17 (Tue) 19:36:16 No. 12311
Do anyone know about some "sleep paralysis" event that happens when you re enter the balcony?
I don't know the chance of getting the event tough, but I got it twice today. I've searched about it but it doesn't appear as an event in the wiki. Also it sort of makes the room mirrored.
Anonymous 06/07/17 (Wed) 04:22:30 No. 12312
Did Urotsuki's room turn purple by any chance?
cokepes 06/07/17 (Wed) 13:15:32 No. 12313
no, I looked more into it and wiki says its Mirror Room but I'm not getting teleported anywhere when I interact with the TV
Anonymous 09/09/17 (Sat) 11:40:53 No. 12520
Overall, I'd say it's even better. It's absolutely massive, it incorporates different art styles, there's a whole lot of different events, and you can actually track your progress through the game. Some folks might say the story is all over the place, but there's no guarantee that the original has had any story, despite what theory junkies would want you to believe. If someone said to me I'd sink 100+ hours in an indie RPG maker game, I'd laugh in their face. And yet, with this game, I did.
Anonymous 09/11/17 (Mon) 05:03:31 No. 12523
Just checked in the game, there's nothing on that planet, or on any other planet except the moon. Either someone on wiki made it up, or it used to be there but then got removed later.
Anonymous 09/17/17 (Sun) 19:18:12 No. 12531
>>12530 >this place is far bigger than it has any business being.
What do you know, that's my entire experience with the original Yume Nikki!
Anyway, it goes something like this: once you reach the leftmost end of the tentacle ﬁeld, go north and you probably won't miss it.
Anonymous 09/19/17 (Tue) 20:47:10 No. 12534 >>12531
anyway, found it; thanks for the help!
Anonymous 09/26/17 (Tue) 07:41:40 No. 12540
My personal gripe with Wataru's maps is how linear they are, how much of the music isn't mastered properly (which leads to audible clicks every time it loops) and how the trafﬁc cones are used as part of the scenery, even though just about every other designer uses them only as a WIP sign.
As for why people like it, well, there are a few well done mood changes between the maps, and I guess it also feels very satisfying to get to the bottom of the Depths after stealing through so many obstructions. It took me 6+ hours to do on my ﬁrst try, and even though I cursed the perpetual darkness and obtuse pathing more than a hundred times at that point, it still felt pretty good.
But then again, big areas that lead to roads blocked with trafﬁc cones are absolute cancer. Those things should go once and for all.
Anonymous 10/04/17 (Wed) 19:04:02 No. 12644
What version are you playing? That minigame was removed years ago.
Anonymous 10/04/17 (Wed) 21:54:52 No. 12647
It wasn't removed, it's still in the ﬁles and once you either unlock all endings, sleep for over 100 times or do something else sufﬁciently lategame-ish (not sure what exactly), it becomes available for playing.
Anonymous 10/06/17 (Fri) 05:14:56 No. 12650
Wow, show's how long it's been since I played… that was like, the only minigame available right from the start last I played.
Anonymous 10/08/17 (Sun) 05:46:17 No. 12654
That was pretty sweet. Did you use the midi as the base or you arranged it?
Anonymous 10/08/17 (Sun) 06:04:04 No. 12655
i just learned it by ear, it's the default theme but listening to the 8bit one helped hear what all the high notes are
and i just noticed some of them near the end are a little different than what i heard originally, will have to re-edit it a bit sometime…
Anonymous 10/30/17 (Mon) 12:01:40 No. 12666
Just keep on trying, you'll get there eventually. The entrance is to the northwest of the point you're dropped at, so just keep tapping Up and Left to get there.
>and sometimes I can't even go north.
That means you've hit the top of the map, keep moving west to get to your destination. If memory serves though, you're not gonna make it in time at that point.
Gbleek 11/14/17 (Tue) 12:56:50 No. 12675
Hey everyone, I really need some help. I just installed 2kki and I have to use the "AnotherFullScreenMode" program because 2kki will not full screen on its own due to a DirectDrawError. However when using AnotherFullScrenMode, the game will work for a few minutes before the screen goes black. I can hear game audio when the screen is black and I can still move around but obviously the game can not be played if I can't see anything. I'm on Windows 10. Please help!
Anonymous 11/14/17 (Tue) 15:36:05 No. 12676
I don't know how to fix your software problem, but you can try resizing your screen when playing 2kki to a smaller size. I think the direct draw error had to do with that.
Gbleek 11/25/17 (Sat) 19:26:54 No. 12683
I found a rainbow looking pumpkin in a dark alley and it gave me an effect but I don't have it in my effects menu. What's wrong?
Anonymous 11/27/17 (Mon) 10:40:09 No. 12687
It's not an effect, it's a menu skin. You can choose it in your computer while awake.
Anonymous 12/30/17 (Sat) 07:17:54 No. 12728
Yo, I've been trying for like over an hour to get to the green Binary World but I've only ended up in the blue BW over a dozen times in a row. Am I doing something wrong?
Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 00:16:55 No. 12762
Has anyone considered getting in contact with the japanese developement team of Yume 2kki and work toward releasing Yume 2kki on Steam for free?
Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 02:31:30 No. 12767
No, they wouldn't be interested and there's no need for 2kki to be on steam. There's not even a reason for YN to be on steam, actually.
Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 03:22:13 No. 12770
Stirring up interest for a new project is a valid reason. Also makes it more easily accesible.
Whether or not introducing YN to new people or a new project coming out is a good thing is up for debate, though
Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 03:39:42 No. 12771
First of all, 2kki is a project derived from 2ch, they don't give two fucks about the western fandom in terms of popularity or providing accessibility. It's like believing any western chan actually cares for futaba, when only the users who frequent it actually care or even understand/appreciate their culture and the rest only know it on name. 2kki is easily accessible if you either have been long enough in the fandom to know how they work or if you understand Japanese (it's literally a "click here to download latest version" button).
Second, they update constantly (or at least used to until a year and something, haven't checked since), and the whole thing is a complete mess for people who don't even know what the game is all about and how the devteam behaves. I honestly wouldn't even want to guess how many users would be completely confused by how to apply patches and why things break so often and why this map now looks different and every other single question in any 2kki's thread. It would be a nightmare and everybody would complain it's unfinished, broken and other nasty stuff. And if you think somebody would actually try to organize this shit out, then I have bad news for you.
Third, they don't really care for our opinion or wishes, AS the devteam. Individually, some devs are more friendly than others, and even reply to our questions when we contact them, but honestly their working is something along the lines of "add whatever you want as long as it doesn't fuck up, don't get into other author's territory, and you should be alright. Management is up to the chief(s?) who is(/are) on charge of putting things on wiki. Any bug? Report. Somebody will eventually patch it". This is extremely disorganized to publish anywhere outside the circle. If you want an analogy, 2kki is a huge oekaki thread where people contribute with drawings and even improve some made by other users, and eventually somebody comes and copy pastes the pictures and makes a .rar with the batch that will inevitably break and need like 4 patches and a few extra fixed versions because a lot of the pictures aren't displaying.
In other words, you're trying to contact a devteam who is extremely modular, disorganized, and doesn't really care for publishing in steam.
Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 04:08:05 No. 12772
I was specifically referring to YN, anon, not 2kki. I am in total agreement.
Another issue would be the handling of copyright and intellectual properties, with so many people working on and having worked on it.
As much as I'd like to see something as massive and great as 2kki on steam, I have no doubt it wouldn't happen. Its surprising enough that YN is. I was just saying that there was a valid reason for it to be
Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 11:31:55 No. 12773
If i decide to try and contact the developers of Yume 2kki myself tio discuss the possibility of releasing their game on Steam,where can i find them?
Anonymous 01/28/18 (Sun) 14:16:15 No. 12820
I've foundthe twitter pages of two ofthe developers but unfortunately i don't have a twitter myself,so can someone write them a message to ask if they plan to release Yume 2kki on Steam and if that's not the case to suggest them this opportunity?
Anonymous 02/03/18 (Sat) 09:04:33 No. 12845
I went to the block filled world from the Nexus and I found a plate of cheese on the floor and I got really curious as to what the cheese would do if I interacted with it, not ate, interacted with it, but… despite this, my character (I was playing as Urotsuki) ate the cheese like a fat piece of shit and then shrunk down to be really really REALLY (really) tiny. I explored the area as a tiny tiny person for like 30 minutes and then I realized I was a fucking idiot and there really wasn't anything to find. There wasn't even a cool cheese-themed world or universe for me to explore and get immersed in. What the fuck Nintendo? I interacted with the blue bricks that took me there and I was normal again, and then I interacted with them again and I was shrunk back down. Does this mean the world with the cheese and blocks in it GREW and I was normal sized the whole time? I'm really confused, but, that doesn't matter. I was just really excited to wake up after that really culturally enriching experience and get back to my computer (just like I do in real life) and find some cool cheese-themed unlockables, preferably a wallpaper or a cool sliding puzzle on my game console. I was incredibly upset to find that there were no cool cheese-related unlockables in the entirety of the fucking game. What is this? Why would you do this? I was so excited, and then there was no cheese. I was thinking the cheese would just uninstall the game if I interacted with it, but then, at this point, the game might've just done that anyways, because really, I'm thinking about doing it myself as is. This game blew its load all over my fat ogre face and I'm really upset that there's no cool cheese unlockables in the game for me to enjoy. I don't like Yume 2kki anymore but I still plan on playing it (hopefully to find some more cheese in the game).
Anonymous 02/05/18 (Mon) 04:55:11 No. 12859
Just picked the game back up after about 3 or 4 years, then after remembering where the bike is I randomly stumbled upon the blue teleporter maze and managed to get to the wolf area. Awoo on wheels is still as cute as ever. Did any other mix effects get added since that?
Anonymous 02/05/18 (Mon) 07:58:23 No. 12860
Yeah I recently picked it up again after not playing around with it for some time. I'm having a good time but it's taking a bit for me to break myself in and be more eager to experience the strange things rather than having anxiety over whatever the fuck could be next. Thing about these games is that anything could happen at any moment, and with something like 2kki that's packed with content, I really can't be sure what the hell is gonna be behind that door or what's going to happen when I interact with that one character.
I'm still having a great time though. I love the presentation and how the game just feels so wrapped up into a nice package; there are a lot of features and you can actually feel the love that went into the game, which is nice. The atmosphere is very manic and schizophrenic, and it feels really unique when compared to the other fangames. I'm looking forward to seeing more and experiencing more; there are a lot of areas in the game and some of them were amazing. I really liked the butterfly worlds, especially the blue and green ones.
Anonymous 02/06/18 (Tue) 00:42:04 No. 12862
Is it normal for this game to give me borderline spiritual experiences nearly every time I play it? I always end up finding some beautiful world that makes me tear up a little and just feel absolutely wonderful because of the atmosphere. It's kind of hard to explain but I know the more hardcore YN players will get what I'm saying when I bring up intense atmospheres. 2kki has this sense of relatability because a lot of the areas feel like real dreams or even lucid dreams compared to YN feeling like very deep, deep dreams.
There's something about finding a sunken pyramid at the bottom of the ocean after going on a trip there through an awesome submarine ride. These are real places and real things put into a dream, and they kind of add this sense of "yeah, those things actually exist" and makes you almost feel like you're entering a state of lucidity in the game after roaming the surreal and otherworldly locations. I'm in the pyramid maze right now and it just kicks off your lucidity with an amazing little Yume Nikki homage, and then you get this sense of adventure and intensity as you roam around the maze. This game continues to impress and it only keeps getting better. I already knew it was amazing, but this is insane. Yume Nikki changed my life and 2kki is actually surpassing it in some ways; I didn't know it was possible and it's so fucking cool. You'll have to forgive my sperging; I'm kind of in the middle of being wowed by this game as I play it so it's kind of being reflected into my words.
Anonymous 02/07/18 (Wed) 19:11:42 No. 12871 >>12862
I agree with you entirely at least. 2kki was quite the experience when I first started playing it well over 5 years ago, and I still have a lot of fun with it even now. It's marvelous.
I hope you continue having a great time with it. There's just so much to see.
Anonymous 02/10/18 (Sat) 07:23:00 No. 12877
Yeah I'm really enjoying the game so far.
>I hope you continue having a great time with it.
Anonymous 02/12/18 (Mon) 13:48:59 No. 12880
Never run into it before. It kind of looks like some weird opposite to Mars-san.
Anonymous 02/12/18 (Mon) 14:56:02 No. 12881
I know about this thing because I actually tried my best to get it to appear. It's apparently a very low chance, so you got lucky.
Anonymous 02/21/18 (Wed) 15:05:02 No. 12887
I haven't played 2kki in a few weeks. I'd like to head back soon but it's kind of a mentally investing game once you delve into it, so I'd like to be prepared. I'm kind of prepping myself up to have a fun time with Dream Diary with the people in the Ubuu Discord regardless of if DD is actually good or bad anyways, so I guess I'm busy with that at the moment anyways. 2kki's still great though; I love watching it update and everything just feels so nicely packed together in this wonderful love letter. It's honestly a wonderful thing.
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:03:59 No. 12895
I saw something in the game about looking for contributors. Is this still the case? If so, who should I talk to about that?
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:08:45 No. 12896
They're always looking for people interested in participating, but if you can't figure out how to contact the team, how do you expect to communicate with them?
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:11:54 No. 12897
That's why I'm asking here. ;) Saw that it was made by a team of people on Uboachan and no one in the Discord server seems to know anything about it.
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:20:32 No. 12898 >>12897
2kki isn't made by uboachan, it's made by users from 2ch. They are japanese, speak japanese and if you want to contact them you have to, at the very least, have some basic japanese knowledge (hence why I am asking if you can't read their contact info, how do you plan on sending them anything).
Here's their wiki:
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:22:39 No. 12899
Ah, that's right, I misremembered. Well, I'm learning Japanese now but I'm not great so far, so it might be a bit. But at least I know where to start. Thank you
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:24:43 No. 12900
And here's the dev wiki
And the current 2ch thread:
The fact that no faggot on the discord channel could tell you this is a japanese game and not made by uboachan is just sad.
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 05:46:56 No. 12901
Probably could have if I'd asked. This doesn't look too difficult but I think it'll be easier once I can at least read/write something besides hiragana. That being said, if I feel like I might still prepare something and make a run
Anonymous 02/27/18 (Tue) 12:47:06 No. 12902
Has there ever been a case of a western fan with good Japanese knowledge who managed to contribute to 2kki?
Anonymous 02/28/18 (Wed) 01:39:19 No. 12907
Challenge accepted. I'm guessing no one has tried. It's really not that hard if you know Japanese, you literally just need to add yourself to the tables, announce it, and then contribute.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 16:32:38 No. 12915
There was one underage clown who did, as you might guess it didn't go so hot.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 16:36:25 No. 12916
It's not chance-based, you have to go through the underwater garden, which is accessible through taking the bus in that one ocean world.
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 16:11:44 No. 12924
To be honest it's not as funny as it sounds, it's just a huge embarassment mostly. It was the guy who pretended to be Wataru for a little while, then got banned for being underage:
Then somebody reprinted his email in the production thread along with his request to join the team, even though he didn't speak a lick of Japanese:
(post #746 onward) People discussed it and decided against his inclusion, as communication is pretty hard even among native speakers.
And I guess now he's pestering ７１０ from the team to that end:
(see Nov'17 tweets)
Viewer discretion strongly advised, you just might cringe your eyes out looking at this.
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 18:28:42 No. 12926
Oh god, is that fucking autistic faggot? And he's the same retard who tried to impersonate wataru/wataru's brother? Oh, deary, deary me、you were wrong, this is PURE GOLD.
I joined some random discord chat when fake kiki appeared and he happened to be there, he was an insufferable kid and started a shitstorm as soon as I joined (check first tip on "trivial drama" here
funfact: he was banned from ubuu because he was literally spamming the fake kiki thread trying to… get him to acknowledge his existence or something? Even sei/mods couldn't cope with his fucking attitude. Also lol at >>757, japanon checked ubuu and saw the disaster gg
Anonymous 03/06/18 (Tue) 03:32:51 No. 12929
I've noticed that in some areas there are blockades with yellow signs next to them, is there any way to pass those?
Anonymous 03/06/18 (Tue) 04:02:34 No. 12931
So I assume they're just to block off unfinished areas?
Anonymous 03/06/18 (Tue) 04:09:44 No. 12932
Basically, yes. Sometimes they also mark the end of non-looping maps.
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 19:58:56 No. 12941
Anon dev here, and not a frequent Uboachan user. That artoax guy harrased me, kept suicidebaiting me and my fellas too and asked me if i knew 2kki and if i knew silver and wataru. WTF
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 20:37:31 No. 12943
>>12926 >Pixel Horror Discord
Why of course it had to be around those tumblr faggots again, there is always drama in that community.
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 20:40:52 No. 12944
Tell me a single community where theres no drama
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 20:54:51 No. 12945
reminder that he caused drama un Ubuu too.
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 22:37:54 No. 12947
He caused drama everywhere.
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 22:42:08 No. 12948
Man, to think that 2kki's team only recently got rid of two cancerous authors, and now there's this snowﬂake barging in. Yeah, they had better tell him off.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 01:38:58 No. 12949
>>12948 >recently got rid of two cancerous authors
GALAXY and who else? Spelude?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 07:42:15 No. 12950
Yeah, those two. Coincidentally both are female. Muh sexism, amirite?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 12:26:34 No. 12951
They even have a blog dedicated to roast each other anonymously.
Anonymous 04/10/18 (Tue) 15:47:46 No. 12959
>>12949 >>12950 >>12951
What did Spelude do? I know GALAXY was acting like they were hot shit despite their poor graphics, but I thought Spelude was more well behaved and apologetic about their bad art?
I do know Spelude made some great music tracks that made up for their low quality maps.
Anonymous 04/19/18 (Thu) 17:15:12 No. 12963
Apologetic or not, she still kept submitting poorly drawn and ill-ﬁtting art for the game. So eventually people started complaining out loud about it, and then she got upset and quit. Then after her retirement some more stuff popped up, like the fact that the material in the books she submitted (those in the second library, the one with the sad music) was not original to the game, and was reposted from one of her personal sites. And so the rest of the team had to remove that library in one of the subsequent updates. I think you get the point.
Anonymous 04/21/18 (Sat) 16:06:06 No. 12967
Hey. I'm not someone who usually posts, but I read up on that discord, and the drama of participants who have left for drama reasons from Yume 2kki.
I've always been a distant fan of yume 2kki, and I come back here time to time. Every year I do, I see more drama, and it reads more and more like children than adults. How old are the contributors, on average? I assume the discord and "indie devs" amongst them are more or less just teenagers making their first games, the kind of types that hang around and discuss "creepypasta" and other such low end garbage. But I'm curious as to what the fandom's demographics are, both western and eastern. I certainly hope the departure of those two people will make this better and cut out some fat in exchange for better quality. Yume 2kki has, last time I played, a painfully large ammount of empty areas with only a handful of things to see. I get that its a yume Nikki fangame, but its also a lot larger that Yume Nikki was. You simply can't have such a numerous ammount of areas that are mindlessly wandering to see 3 sprites, it's just saddening. Anyways, I'm going to look into playing through this game again. Its great to see this thread again, for better and for worse, and see that it is not completely dead.
Anonymous 04/21/18 (Sat) 16:45:22 No. 12968
I dont know much about Galaxy, but I did like the factory a lot. Im kind of sad its gone.
Anonymous 04/22/18 (Sun) 17:20:12 No. 12970 >>12968
Most of her maps were curiously well received by the English community. Or at least by the tumblr fandom. It's weird how many people here adore their "kawaii" aesthetic, but in their home country they're reviled. Could be a point to be made about how most western fangames aren't normally as impressive looking as the Japanese ones, in exchange for being more creative with their ideas instead of following typical cliches.
In my opinion, the factory is kinda… inappropriate with the rest of 2kki. A heavy handed message about the horrors of the idol industry and a kinda meta thing about how fangame creators typically just reuse the same things as the original YN did in an attempt to get recognized before abandoning them doesn't really fit into an ambient romp around this girl's dream world. Maybe in a parody fangame, but not particularly in a game that's not supposed to mean anything at all really and is supposed to look pretty and make you think.
Anonymous 04/22/18 (Sun) 21:13:25 No. 12971
Hey. Just read your full post and I had no idea that the factory was commentary, nor that there was a "kawaii" nature to her work; I don't actually know what is and isn't heres, merely the factory. I'm hardly someone for overly cutesy things, so I'm never really sold on "Kawaii". It fact I'm a little too western in my tastes, for a lack of a better term Im far from a "weeb" compared to the people who got me into yume nikki, and some its fan games (Spesifically, .flow is where I started).
While I agree hard commentary is probably inappropriate, and thinking on it it might be a little heavy handed given Yume @kki's more focus on an open nature it's an envitability. The creative process is one of abstraction of experiences we've had and know of. With that lens, the issue I believe there is here with the factory (assuming it is as heavy handed as I am understanding here, a bit of a cultural barrier and language barrier here for me on the topic of idols) is that it's not abstracted far enough away from the subject matter to make its origins too obscure to so easily place a finger on. Some ofthe maps Wataru did (Overgrown City is one of my favorite, atmopsherically) is a great example, because Im sure there was a topic or concept that was a little deep, but its abstracted far enough away from it that the subject matter is not something you can quite spesifically place your finger on, and alls that left is the vision and feel.
Sorry if this whole post seems nitpicky, I just rarely get to speak about the process of abstraction in creative matters, and I guess I'm overly excited to finally get to speak a little on this game that I've come ot appreciate.
As an additional note, the town itself is nice and eventful, but it looks god awful. It just doesn't feel like any effort was made in the visuals.
Anonymous 04/22/18 (Sun) 22:29:27 No. 12972
In terms of abstraction though, Galaxy's maps aren't really subtle. Robot clone things being processed on conveyer belts, dressed in bright clothing, made to sing, then destroyed really makes it seem really obviously about exploitation, at least to me anyway.
Subtleness is key in these sorts of things. Wataru might have themes of environmentalism and industrialism in his post-apocalyptic maps, yet these aren't especially overt, or you don't really notice until later on anyway. Compare to Galaxy, and her thoughts about abuse in the idol industry and treating children like dolls are rather forefront. Almost as soon as I saw the clones I immediately figured what she was going for, but got kinda tired of it after awhile. That's really all there is in the factory. It just can't really be interpreted as much else imo.
I'm not saying it's bad, it just doesn't work really great in a collab game where everyone is doing their own things. Often with far better graphics and a lot subtler. It feels kinda like beating you over the head.
Another thing is graphic quality. The majority of the YN fandom is dreadfully shallow. Regardless of what you make, they'll eat it up if it looks good and toss it aside if it doesn't, regardless of themes. The original YN was about playing through a beautiful void though. You don't interrupt the subtle immaculate beauty of an empty plain by throwing in a Vocaloid concert. Even if the message is good, 2kki isn't really a place to "preach".
I'm not saying it's bad, it just doesn't work really great for 2kki is all. I'd be open to a fangame they made exclusively because at least it'd be consistent. Despite the shitty art style.
Anonymous 04/22/18 (Sun) 22:37:26 No. 12973 >>12963
I do kinda wonder if the 2kki devs are hypocritical then though. Sabamiso's maps sucked and were pretty small, events were cheap jumpscares, and they reused all of their tilesets and characters for their own (kinda overrated and annoyingly silent) fangame Hallucigenia. Hell, Marginal Vivid Worker gets a great big cameo. Yet their stuff is still in 2kki and apparently(?) beloved.
Then again, they didn't contribute much before stopping. I simply assumed they retired, but were they fired instead? But then why keep their shitty maps? Maybe Galaxy and Spelude would've done better had they been on the project earlier? Technically both are better than Sabamiso too, because apparently Sabamiso sucked with music, whereas Spelude's primary draw was their sound design.
Anonymous 04/24/18 (Tue) 03:54:18 No. 12974
Well, I'm pretty sure sabamiso contributed to the game very early on. The director was probably someone else and there really wasn't much standard at all, whereas now things have taken new courses. I'm fairly sure his stuff wouldn't be well received nowadays, while they were somewhat novel (or interesting, at least) back then, and they probably keep it because they don't want to just get rid of a fairly popular meme (or whatever the thing is supposed to be).
Anonymous 04/27/18 (Fri) 00:22:00 No. 12975
I wasn’t familiar with Galaxy’s maps. When were her maps added? The last time I played 2kki was in 2013 or 2014 maybe. Searched about it on youtube and from what I saw, the maps aren’t anything special but they aren’t bellow 2kki’s standard maps. It is generic, like a lot of others they have/had. Why would they make such a drastic quality control for this one? The last version I played had maps with similar quality to hers. Did 2kki change that much.
I didn’t see any comment about an “idol industry”, only saw a singing robot factory, making cute robots and throwing them away when damaged. But that might be my fault. I purposefully read these things literally because I find them more entertaining that way.
Anonymous 04/27/18 (Fri) 09:38:14 No. 12976
These maps are still WAY better than Galaxy's stuff. Seriously, it was the lowest quality stuff.
Anonymous 04/28/18 (Sat) 16:42:49 No. 12977 >>12975 >taking things literally >in a YN fangame
Most authors have their own little stories they want to render, but in a subtle way, like the original. So they use wacky dream symbolism. Like the Witches in PMMM.
The idol industry could be described as literally what you just observed about robots. Just turn that to little girls and it's an apt description of the darker side of the business. But I guess it's more subjective. I just saw it as an extremely obvious jab that felt just a bit out of place with the rest of 2kki. Too modern and specific. And if you want to blame the devs more, fanboys really hate it when you point out everything wrong with what they like. Dedp is pretty into idol music I think? At least, last time I visited his Twitter. Dunno how involved he is, but making jabs at the interests of contributors, and in addition to the bad art style and hot shot attitude, didn't do GALAXY any favors.
A big problem with 2kki too is Wataru. Note how EVERYTHING is compared negatively to his stuff. He's way too good. It sets an unreasonable standard. And I think he's aware of this and wants to leave but no one wants him to. Galaxy got herself in hot water adding some shit uboa knockoff to his gorgeous pink sea knockoff and Wataru was forced to tell her to remove it. I kinda don't think he cared, but the other contributors forced him to say something because it was his map. That event was there for longer than it should've been. And there's now nothing in his pink sea ripoff and I doubt he's gonna update it. Wataru is too good for this dev drama and wants out. But he's so nice he keeps getting pulled back in to finish his stuff because no one else is as talented as him. Personally I think he's overrated but this is just what I think and what I'm seeing.
Anonymous 04/28/18 (Sat) 18:20:21 No. 12978
If you really can't see the parallel, you know nothing about idols. Watch perefect blue or something.
The main problem with 2kki is the way it's developed. A surreal game about isolation should not be made by a loose group of people all throwing their own shit in while communicating with each other and having stupid drama. This type of development is fundamentally incompatible with something like yume nikki. It must be the product of one person's messed up imagination to successfully capture the same feeling. Yume Nikki is a game about both surrealism and atmosphere/mood. You need both, so it's not enough to just put weird, disconnected, random shit.
Anonymous 04/28/18 (Sat) 19:22:47 No. 12979
For me, the main drive of 2kki is that its a conglomerate of various experiences. It's more of a "hey dude we expanded Yume Nikki!" project than a remake with a different paintjob like the other fangames are. A dreamworld this vast, team or not, is bound to have some inconsistencies, and fangames don't necessarily need to abide by "messed up" creations from one single author to be coherent and have an overarching tone unless you're looking at something like LCD Dem which has a (potentially) very fucked story behind it's development.
Assuming the team wants Yume 2kki to stop being a proof of concept and actually make it have sense (pertaining to Urotsuki's character & dreamworlds, quality control etc), a lot more communication would be required, and judging by the environment it originated from (Japanese anonymous imageboards), I don't think it will be the easiest task in the world.
But in my opinion, Yume 2kki's lack of context and canvas approach is what makes it unique.
Anonymous 04/29/18 (Sun) 08:56:54 No. 12982
This is a dumb post. 2kki isn't YN, it shouldn't be capturing the "same feeling". And as if real dreams always coherent or imaginative, I know for a fact I dream up the most random stupid bullshit sometimes. 2kki is even more accurate in this regard than YN is.
Anonymous 04/29/18 (Sun) 09:05:07 No. 12983
Honestly I really don't think an "unsubtle" theme is as big a crime as people think here, a bigger issue with Galaxy's maps is how fucking ugly they are. They weren't pleasant to explore, which is the whole point of the damn game.
Anonymous 04/29/18 (Sun) 20:07:50 No. 12986
I hope this isn't really too bad to post here, but I wasn't really sure where else to put it lol
I've been working on a Yume 2kki youtube series and I'd appreciate if you gave an episode or two a watch.
Anonymous 04/29/18 (Sun) 20:20:08 No. 12987
>>12979 >which has a (potentially) very fucked story behind it's development.
Ah yes, my favorite LCDDEM theory. Koronba killed his mom and faked suicide before traveling to Mexico and changing his identity because of harassment on Twitter.
Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 12:08:37 No. 12995
You may not like Sabamiso's work, but I don't think you can reasonably deny that it ﬁts the overall art direction of the game leagues better than Galaxy's. Somebody liked Saba's worlds enough to make a wallpaper related to them, something nobody has ever done for Galaxy. I think that illustrates my point well enough.
As for Saba's retirement, he did it of his own accord after saying that he was sick of people calling all YN fangames "pakuri" (inferior copy, basically), which pretty much demolished all of his motivation to continue. This was back in early 2011, I think.
Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 22:26:13 No. 13011
2kki's approach definitely isn't the way to go about it. A team of developers who are all on the same page is obviously going to produce a coherent product. Something like yume nikki probably wont get a team of capable enough people to do something like that though. Capturing that feeling of isolation is also easier if just one person is making it. It's going to be more personal. An expanded paint swap version of YN has little merit. YN was an emotional experience. That part is what really made it good.
What should it be doing then? Dreams may be illogical, but they do have their own rhyme and reason to them connected to the person having the dream. Also, more random does not equal better. There's a reason why YN is better remembered and liked than LSD Dream Journal. One gets you invested, and the other is a novelty. A more accurate dream simulator doesn't make for a better game.
Anonymous 05/18/18 (Fri) 21:09:21 No. 13219
>>12978 >should >must
Uh who are you, Kikiyama?
Anonymous 05/18/18 (Fri) 21:16:04 No. 13220
>>13218 >expands on YN's surreal exploration aspects
YN already did that just fine. Just like how YN explored its themes well, it explored surreal exploration great. If that's the only purpose of 2kki, it's pointless and not worth much. An actual walking simulator.
I'm telling it like it is. A drama filled clique of people with wildly different visions and skill-level aren't going to be able to make something that does YN justice. And they didn't.
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 07:15:42 No. 13223
Who died and made you king? Having an opinion is one thing but you're acting like the authority on everything regarding YN. And stop putting the original game on such a high pedestal either, Kikiyama themselves pretty much called it a "walking simulator."
>YN already did it
And I can say LSD Dream Emulator did it better before so it shouldn't be done again?
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 07:16:34 No. 13224
>>13220 >it explored surreal exploration great.
So we can't have more ever again?
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 08:46:58 No. 13225
>A drama ﬁlled clique of people Whoa there, buddy, in 2kki's 10 year long there were only 2 times a geniune drama broke out (maybe two and a half if you count when people started trolling the thread after Sabamiso's retirement), and only one of them actually affected the game somewhat. If that's what counts as "drama-ﬁlled", well then, at that rate there's just no way for people to cooperate. >A surreal game about isolation should not be made by a loose group of people all throwing their own shit in while communicating with each other and having stupid drama. Oh wait, nevermind, you were talking out your ass all along. In reality, people on the 2kki team pretty much don't interact with each other, aside from announcing whoever does the next update. Beyond that, everyone just did their own thing with a vague overaching theme. Way back in the day, some people submitted sketches of their ideas, and those eventually became a sort of design document for the game. And, as it turns out, it's a pretty cool way to produce a game about isolation. You get the volume of content that wouldn't EVER be possible otherwise.
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 08:52:21 No. 13226
People acting like 2kki's lack of coherence isn't the reason why it's 2kki. Urotsuki is a true dreamer in the sense that the things and events she thinks of is random and doesn't have an overarching theme. More QA would be neat though.
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 11:39:33 No. 13227
I don't think the actual dreams are ever truly random. It always comes back ulitmately to either something we crave, or something we fear. A concept that no theory builder ever seems to acknowledge.
I also do think there are overaching themes in 2kki, but they're certainly not self-evident, and other people may see other themes therein. I guess that's just the beauty of the game. Compare that with other fangames that are not so subtle in establishing their themes – more often than not they just turn out irredeemably mediocre.
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 13:14:35 No. 13228
I'm not going to the developers of 2kki and telling them that they're doing it wrong. I'm not sending them emails. I'm not reporting them to the police. Some people can't tell having strong opinions and convictions from, "acting lke an authority". I 100% believe that 2kki's approach does not work. That is all.
I don"t think YN is the greatest game ever made, but it did consistently make me feel something and capture my imagination. I would say it accomplished its goals. Even if is was described as a game where you mostly walk around and explore, it was never described as a walking simulator, which has its own connotations that YN does not fit.
So we can't have any more theme exploration ever again? You literally said 2kki doesn't need to explore themes because YN already did it well.
>lsd dream sim
didn't do it the best
>>13225 >there's just no way for people to cooperate
Yes there is. Making a team that is decided upon from the start and has strong communication with each other. Having threads and interacting with people and picking who gets to do what is a form of communication between people making the game, it's just a really ineffective way of doing it. You can't pick and choose what does and does not count as communication. Drama doesn't have to affect the game in a clearly defined way. The fact that there ever is drama reflects on the nature of the development process.
>And, as it turns out, it's a pretty cool way to produce a game about isolation. You get the volume of content that wouldn't EVER be possible otherwise.
No, it isn't. People are constantly complaining about old areas being removed or changed in a shitty way or the older versions being better in general. That kind of development makes a meandering mess with no goal in sight. No vision to speak of apart from those, "blueprints". Also, quality over quantity. Sheer volume is not a positive trait unless you are just trying to kill as much time as possible.
>>13226 >why it's 2kki
Is that a good reason?
That is such bullshit. It sounds like how people explain modern, abstract art.
>this toilet bowl doesn't have to have a clear motivation behind it, it just has impact, so it's art and belongs in this gallery >>13227 >theory builder
Oh, of course. Nothing is self-evident; everything's up to interpretation; it means what ever you want it to. That's just a cope out. YN could mean a lot of things, and that meaning isn't clearly defined, but it's themes are: isolation, fear, paranoia, helplessness, depression.
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 13:28:31 No. 13229
Okay, let me rephrase then: general themes (depression, helplessness) are good, speciﬁc themes (%heroname% WAS RAPED!!1) are bad. I'm not even sure what you're otherwise arguing with.
Automated request, my ass. Crap like this makes me wish we had captcha instead.
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 14:23:41 No. 13230
>>13226 >Urotsuki is a true dreamer in the sense that the things and events she thinks of is random and doesn't have an overarching theme
but dreams aren't random
dreams can only be a combination of things you have already experienced, or a mutation of those things
Anonymous 05/19/18 (Sat) 14:25:43 No. 13231
>>13230 >dreams can only be a combination of things you have already experienced, or a mutation of those things
So I can't ever dream of going to space or exploring a rave galaxy because I never actually experienced it or something close to it? The more you know.
b 05/19/18 (Sat) 17:58:57 No. 13232
>>13231 >So I can't ever dream of going to space or exploring a rave galaxy because I never actually experienced it or something close to it? The more you know.
Not exactly. If you can imagine it you can dream it.
b 05/19/18 (Sat) 19:05:12 No. 13234
It's not very good with clocks.
Anonymous 05/20/18 (Sun) 13:52:28 No. 13238
you can, but only because you've probably seen it in a movie, picture, read about it, or heard someone talk about it. if you raised in ancient times to believe that the stars were just big holes in an all encompassing dome above the earth, you would never have dreams about seeing other galaxies and planets the way we know them today.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 08:39:10 No. 13242
>>13228 >I 100% believe that 2kki's approach does not work. That is all.
Fine for you but that's not a fact, at all. I personally like a lot of 2kki's areas even more than YN.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 08:51:42 No. 13243
Same. I quite dig YN, but Y2K is an improvement over it in every single way.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 16:49:07 No. 13244
I'm surprised no one came up with a archive of all versions of Yume 2kki and the YN fan game archive doesn't have much of 2kki.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 17:01:06 No. 13245
Because many of 2kki's versions are lost, although I don't see why not include the available ones.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 19:05:08 No. 13246
Because what's the point in keeping hundreds of versions of the same game, only with each one having progressively less content? There was, like, at most 10 updates throughout the game's history (really early versions notwithstanding) when the content went through noticeable revisions, and even that is already documented, by and large.
Also, there's always the changelog in the game itself. They span about 20 latest versions each, tracking whatever changes there were.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 20:10:50 No. 13247
Each version had some really subtle changes and some maps and songs were lost in just a few updates.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 20:27:29 No. 13248
There's still not that many of them, even fewer worth mentioning. The only author to constantly remake their content was Gensou/Spelude, but it still turned out mediocre for the most part. Honestly, it's just not worth the trouble unless you're just that much of a completionist.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 20:38:36 No. 13249
For you yes, but the whole point of Yume 2kki is to explore and finding the lost maps is a bit of a meta endeavor in itself.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 20:41:12 No. 13250
Also I am willing to host EVERY single version as I have more than enough space to host such a gigantic file size.
Anonymous 05/22/18 (Tue) 20:57:26 No. 13251
Well, what can I say. Best of luck ﬁnding all the missing versions.
Anonymous 05/29/18 (Tue) 18:57:13 No. 13281
>>13280 >did they add this thing, and then just remove it one version later?
It wouldn't the first time they did something like that.
Anonymous 05/29/18 (Tue) 21:29:03 No. 13282
To be fair, that was probably just a leftover from testing the editor forgot to remove. The art for the NPC looked placeholder as hell, and the Nexus is more or less off-limits for editing as of now.
Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 00:12:29 No. 13283
They still need to fill in the gaping hole where Theater world used to be with SOMETHING though, right? (god, removing that was such a dumb move on their part)
Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 04:00:19 No. 13284
There is no hole, Theatre World was replaced with that "I can't believe it's not Yume Nikki" world with the owls.
Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 09:03:35 No. 13285
Theatre World is still in isn't it, it's just not a nexus world anymore.
Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 18:27:07 No. 13286
Nah, I know theater world is still in the game but I hate how now it's much more of a pain in the ass to get to than it used to be back when I played this game in 2011.
There *is* a hole though, every version I have played since I got back into this game in 2017 has had a blatantly empty spot in the nexus. And no I'm not talking about the library, I do have the txt setting on the computer turned on so the library warp is there…and yet, there's still one slot in the nexus that's unused.
Anonymous 05/31/18 (Thu) 16:45:29 No. 13287 >>13284
I actually kinda like Shield Owl World honestly. Sure it's one of the least creative areas in the game but it's still well done anyway, and like all of 710's maps, goes into some neat trippy territory.
If something is well made, I feel more inclined to forgive it for not being terribly creative. .B.P. is a fucking beautiful fangame, yet I don't think there is a single thing in it that isn't already in YN. Still, the graphics make up for this by far.
I have to wonder, why did they seem to go out of their way to get the Theatre World as far out of the way as possible? In fact, in earlier versions they outright removed it didn't they? Was there some kind of dev drama going on or something? The map was made by 20 wasn't it? HE made most of the more well known areas before vanishing I guess. I don't keep up with Y2K dev stuff, so I have no clue what went wrong. He piss someone off and get banned or something (and Theater World was undermined as consequence)? Marijuana Goddess world also saw some weird changes too IIRC. But I don't know.
Anonymous 05/31/18 (Thu) 21:05:57 No. 13289
>>13286 >here *is* a hole though, every version I have played since I got back into this game in 2017 has had a blatantly empty spot in the nexus. And no I'm not talking about the library, I do have the txt setting on the computer turned on so the library warp is there…and yet, there's still one slot in the nexus that's unused.
Pretty sure that hole existed in just about every version, at this point it's probably a deliberate decision. But hey, you get to admire the gorgeous texture underneath.
Mosenite's update was a one-off event a few days after Galaxy's infamous 0.102d was released. They never even posted in the thread ever since. In fact, the poster didn't even have a name, the name was retroﬁtted from the ﬁrst map in the update.
Just a hunch, but I think it's a good one – Mosenite was probably just n3/Koronba going incognito. Their visual styles are similar, their spritesheet templates are similar, their musical styles are extremely similar, and Moseni even reused one of n3's tracks. If that's really the case, further updates from them are obviously out of question.
Anonymous 06/01/18 (Fri) 05:42:16 No. 13292
>>13289 >Moseni even reused one of n3's tracks
That isn't an uncommon event on 2kki though.
Then again, you may want to go down the route of Wataru and a few other contributors also being Koronba in incognito.
Anonymous 06/01/18 (Fri) 18:27:17 No. 13295
>>13289 >If that's the case, further updates from them are obviously out of the question
Technically it implies that further updates from them are quite likely doesn't it? If they're actually Koronba and he broke his silence to make it, then he can probably do it again. He might even be PLANNING on doing it again under another name or anonymously. After all, common theory is he was getting stalled/harassed which is why he vanished. Might've killed his general interest but if he secretly updated then it shows he's still creative.
That is if Mosenite is Koronba at all. Not all the maps feel very "koronba-ish" to me. Perhaps the music, but they could've just been inspired by him. There are fans of his work who have gone on to make similar music to his own.
I feel that "EVERYONE IS KORONBA" is one of my favorite memes to come out of here. All the conspiracy theories and shit about how he's actually still active and all other fangames are sockpuppets and he's Kikiyama on the run for murder. When in fact he probably just seppuku'd. It goes to show how people underestimate just how much people care about them. ;_;
Someone should also make a version of the Spongebob Squidward meme but with n3/Koronba and all his "aliases".
>What kind of fool do you take me for >He's Koronba >He's Koronba >You're Koronba >I'M KORONBA >Are there any other Koronbas I should know about
Anonymous 06/01/18 (Fri) 19:12:37 No. 13298
>>13295 >If they're actually Koronba and he broke his silence to make it, then he can probably do it again.
Well then, there's only one way to ﬁnd out. You have to become the next GALAXY and shit on the game with your updates as much as possible. Think you're up for a task like that?
>>13292 >Then again, you may want to go down the route of Wataru and a few other contributors also being Koronba in incognito.
But that would be stupid, as none of the other reasons why I drew the Moseni-n3 parallel would apply. The same reasons y'all conveniently ignored for whatever purpose.
Anonymous 06/04/18 (Mon) 22:13:05 No. 13335
When going through the game's audio files, I noticed that Mosenite's songs are just like Koronba's in that they don't play at the speed they do in the game and in that they use a similar naming pattern. (they're usually slower in-game and have names like NtoS or something similar) So yeah, for a while I had the theory that they were the same person, but upon replaying the game I felt like both authors had some different styles of maps, which led me to believe that Mosenite was just some weirdo fan who does everything the same way Koronba does. However,
's comments on the 2kki thread leads me to believe that they are in fact the same person.
Anonymous 06/05/18 (Tue) 04:36:24 No. 13337
I kind of had the same logic, but in reverse: a fan imitator would've made something that convincingly replicated his idol, whereas the person itself would've somehow changed and improved their style. No artist stays the same indeﬁnitely, after all.
Also both of those two really like drawing plants. Like, really, really like drawing plants. No one else in the team even comes close. That's something as well.
Anonymous 06/08/18 (Fri) 17:12:32 No. 13348
Oudn revamped all his maps and made them look disgusting. I'd even take the eye searing Ecstasy World over the lame empty cliche Silent Hill settlement it became. It reminded me of Happy Town in LSD.
In general all of Oudn's updates suck. They aren't creative or colorful anymore just Yume Graffiti reject maps. That's one reason to want the old versions, his new maps mostly just look MISERABLE. He's trying too hard to copy Wataru.
Anonymous 06/08/18 (Fri) 20:43:40 No. 13349
>>13348 >He's trying too hard to copy Wataru.
Except oudn established this style in Yume Grafﬁti long before Wataru even thought of joining the 2kki team. I won't argue about the content of the update (though I don't hate it as much as people usually do), but to claim that oudn copied Wataru instead of the other way around (the Depths event was entirely lifted from Yume Grafﬁti, for example) is just idiotic.
Anonymous 06/09/18 (Sat) 19:02:45 No. 13350
Am I the only one who loved the old Ecstasy World? It really felt fun to explore. I didn't mind how "eyesearing" it was, it was really interesting to explore.
Anonymous 06/09/18 (Sat) 21:02:00 No. 13351
Was it really? I mean, the patterns were pretty cool, as long as you didn't stare too long at them, but the world's setup was rather repetitive, wasn't it?
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 00:46:25 No. 13362
so I decided to remix n3's Cog Maze music…
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 00:47:29 No. 13363
and as a heads-up, I know there's a music board, but this is related to Yume 2kki, so there wouldn't be objections to posting it here
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 04:19:01 No. 13365
Which area is that?
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 04:19:58 No. 13366
Galaxy Town elevator.
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 18:17:37 No. 13367
That's… Urotsuki? With the bike effect it looks like?
Unless you're talking about the map. It looks shitty and has a Mado recolor, so it must be GALAXY.
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 19:14:50 No. 13368
Anyone else get kind of bummed out when maps get removed? I can understand GALAXY's maps because they weren't exactly the highest quality yeah, but some part of me feels a little disappointed because every map that gets added is technically a part of 2kki's history. So many versions are just going to be lost to time, and so many maps and events are too as a result. On the bright side it seems like we're getting more maps than we are losing maps, but I still can't help shake this feeling that parts of the game are getting gutted with each update. On top of that 2kki as a game is pretty obscure because you generally have to know about Yume Nikki and then hear about it through that, so I feel like there's not a lot of interest in this like there is for Yume Nikki content. A game like this means a lot to me with all of the atmospheres and experiences it can offer, so seeing those be removed is kind of like having those experiences go away.
Anonymous 06/19/18 (Tue) 20:02:27 No. 13369
I hear you, but as it stands not that much content has been edited out. There are 710's older maps, there are oudn's older maps, and there is one map by natl which they purged for some reason. Oh, and there's Dream Bank, but it's really buggy and its author pretty much retired before ﬁnishing the job. Galaxy and Gensou/Spelude's worlds were a mistake to begin with, pretty much. The rest of the game exists pretty much the way it was originally submitted.
Say, did you know by the way that at least two worlds in the game are based around legacy content? The 'brother's room from the false ending is modeled after the room of the very ﬁrst version's protagonist. Also the bar in the Highway, the one with a ﬂashing sign near the entrance. All the graphics there are actually taken from the ﬁrst versions of the game.
Anonymous 06/20/18 (Wed) 14:30:00 No. 13374
Try 0.106e, the NPC that transports you to that world is in the Nexus for me, but besides requiring the glasses effect to see, also moves around (so they may move out of sight)
Anonymous 06/21/18 (Thu) 15:37:42 No. 13376
I liked spelude's works, they were crude but not GALAXY-tier bad.
Anonymous 06/21/18 (Thu) 18:21:13 No. 13377
Sadly, Spelude was better at sound design than map design. To be fair, they probably could've gotten some minimalist fanbase if they didn't have to contribute new maps every update. And then freak out when criticized.
Galaxy was an eyesore, yet Spelude did have some potential.
I kinda feel like they've teamed up and are collaborating with each other on the game again as the author "Kuroku". The too have impressive music in their maps, which are as empty and uninteresting as they are garish and filled with poorly done 8bit goblin NPCs. I wonder how long it will be until the DNA Room and Dojo are scrubbed and they're removed from the project? Even if they aren't ghostwritten, it does feel odd to have ANOTHER colorblind and lazy author with good music to show up on the project right after they fired the last two. They might be going for something, but until we see more updates from them, I'm kinda suspicious.
Anonymous 06/22/18 (Fri) 21:54:52 No. 13378
Funny enough, Kuroku's ﬁrst contribution even before those shoddy maps was an edit to Spelude's charset. (the one with the dick-shaped bunny)
That said, it's probably not true. Even without the criticism, Spelude was rather mentally unstable. Then after she retired, I've heard one of her lifestreams, she was literally freaking out like a cornered animal for an hour or so before deleting her Twitter and otherwise purging her online presense. I really don't think she was in condition to assume a new identity after that.
Honestly, Kuroku must be just a troll, or someone genuinely unintelligent. There's no way anyone can design maps that badly not on purpose, especially after there was s much drama in regards to effort and quality.
Anonymous 06/29/18 (Fri) 22:10:58 No. 13414
Holy shit that is genuinely amazing. I wanted to do something similar to the sped-up Space theme that used to play in the old Pastel Blue House but I have literally zero experience in making music so that died pretty quick. I'd love to see more "extended remixes" of 2kki (or other games) songs.
GALAXY wasn't good at music. All of her maps used songs from free music websites. A lot of maps do actually, like the Deciding Street's music comes from this site:
Anonymous 06/30/18 (Sat) 07:39:14 No. 13415
That was about Spelude, not GALAXY.
Anonymous 07/02/18 (Mon) 23:11:41 No. 13417
Ah, my bad, then, I thought he was talking about both.
Anonymous 07/31/18 (Tue) 17:00:19 No. 13459
I know I've seen those things before, but I can't remember what world they're in. I'm pretty sure it's a 710 map though.
Anonymous 07/31/18 (Tue) 19:59:22 No. 13461 >>13459
I've looked into it, and it's confirmed to be a 710 map, since it's his second take on the Purple World (the Purple World is the 4th take). I've recently made a map on it as well, and I've found some other things in 0.086e and 0.093e. I can access the Pokemon World and the Purple Neon Maze just fine now.
I've also made maps about the Purple Neon Maze and this weird world. Apparently, the world is called 「水滴」 (suiteki, Water Drops) by 710, which supports my wanting to call this the "Droplets World." What would you call it?
Anonymous 08/02/18 (Thu) 15:59:39 No. 13464
I revisited the depths today on version 0.106h, and when I woke up I saw a dark Urotsuki coming out of bed fading back to normal colors while walking out of bed instead of the normal waking up animation, and it was a bit longer than the usual too. Too bad it was too fast to screenshot.
I wonder if that's intentional, like showing she came back from the deepest and darkest parts of her dreams, that would be cool, or is it random or a bug something? Anyone else saw it?
Anonymous 08/02/18 (Thu) 19:03:49 No. 13466
Are you sure she came out of the bed and didn't sit on the carpet? Cause if she did, that's a different event which was there for a long time.
But if she didn't, well, that might be worth looking into.
Anonymous 08/02/18 (Thu) 19:53:11 No. 13469
Yes, completely sure. I will try to record when I wake up from the deepest part of the depths next time.
Anonymous 08/02/18 (Thu) 21:10:43 No. 13470
Okay, I've checked it. It's actually a bug and it's nothing new.
The Depths have a trigger that constantly ﬁres and renders Uro's sprite black. Although the trigger for waking up should overwrite that before the sprite becomes visible, I guess sometimes the timing messes up and you can see the leftover of Depths' code running. RM2k is not the most reliable software after all.
Anonymous 09/08/18 (Sat) 19:35:35 No. 13601
It's so cool that this game is still being updated.
Anonymous 09/08/18 (Sat) 21:59:04 No. 13603
As someone who knows nothing about Bionicle or anything relating to it, I think you're just over thinking it.
Even if there's an intentional reference there, as long as it's not deliberately stolen art or is being marketed, I doubt either side would have a problem with it. Besides that, I see nothing the looks like the Mata Uni stone and that thing itself looks more like a Haniwa. I do consent that the keys are labeled in the alphabet, but, so what? Homestuck couldn't come up with creative runes and the troll alphabet is just Elder Scrolls script and it's never been called out. I doubt something as obscure as 2kki would receive a cease and desist just for using a fictional alphabet from an equally obscure series Bonkle. There's other uncreative shit in the game as well, with a lot of the music being public domain, the Dogboa, and wataru's teal shoal and Onsen-san knock offs.
Might not be "100% original content" but I think artists ought to be allowed a few references to their favorite things. Besides, how else would we know about YumeBonikki? And if it caused any problems you can just switch to some other fake runic script instead. It's not hard or causing problems for anyone imo.
Anonymous 09/09/18 (Sun) 17:46:11 No. 13605
Eh, fair enough. I recognized it as Bionicle only after some prompting, but now that I think about it, I doubt the Japanese community would. Someone on the 2kki wiki pointed out that the devs didn't take well to GALAXY's stolen content, so maybe a "wait and see" approach is better in this case.
I'm just saying that Lego's the kind of company that knows how to throw its weight around, copyrighting their own adaptations of other content as creative property. It'd be a pity to see something with a decade-long development history go south just because someone was being careless.
Anonymous 09/09/18 (Sun) 18:56:32 No. 13607 >>13605 >implying Lego gives a shit about Bionicle >implying Lego will ever majorly acknowledge it again
I guess you can tell kuraud if you want, but like I said, it wouldn't take too much to make the reference more subtle. Just suggest that the author put more lines in the letters or something.
I didn't think Lego'd be a big copyright claimer considering they don't care about original properties, but I wouldn't be surprised given them being a megacorp. I know Disney and Nintendo are fucks about it, hence the removal of Pokemon Park, but that was made of sprite rips, wasn't it? And, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the penguin effect still acquired through the Super Mario event?
Anonymous 09/09/18 (Sun) 21:08:49 No. 13610
>>13607 >the Super Mario event
I think it's not so much "Super Mario" as generic Famicom/NES platformer", honestly.
Anonymous 09/14/18 (Fri) 23:19:14 No. 13629
Wonderful question, anon! It is possible to contribute wallpaper to 2kki. In fact, someone from the Yume 2kki wiki was not only able to get their wallpaper design recently added to the game, but entire maps, too! (It's noildoof, whose stuff is being collected and released by shigurin.) I'm not clear as to exactly how they managed to get in contact with the game staff, but I do know the specific requirements for wallpapers:
- Do not submit anything you didn't make yourself
- There should be nothing in the work that strongly resembles any existing characters from other well-known series
- The content must be suitable for all ages; do not submit anything that would qualify as 18+ material
- The work cannot contain anything overly political, religious, or grotesque
- Don't submit work you know would make others uncomfortable.
All submissions must fit the constraints of RPGMaker 2000. Therefore, images need to be 256 colors (8-bit), with a size ratio of 4:3, which allows the image to be resized to 320 x 240 px without distortion. Images need to be in .png format as well.
I suggest contacting noildoof directly for details, since they're the one with firsthand experience on the matter. They can be reached on the Yume 2kki wiki (Fokkusu1991).
Anonymous 10/01/18 (Mon) 19:01:24 No. 13666
Anyone else feel like there are too many areas and not enough events?
Anonymous 10/01/18 (Mon) 19:48:21 No. 13667
ME! ME! There are a lot of gorgeous areas in this game but those huge areas usually don't have any events. Or any other recognition at all. I mean there are a lot of plain areas with tons of unlockable wallpapers and Kura Puzzle's while some of really good areas don't have any unlockable content or events. That's a shame.
Anonymous 10/07/18 (Sun) 08:40:57 No. 13677
Are you Artoax, by any chance?
Anonymous 10/07/18 (Sun) 08:46:00 No. 13678
What would be the purpose of this effect? Where would it be located? How would various NPCs react?
The character set is somewhat ready (there is no action/attack animation), but there are much more to be done…
Anonymous 10/07/18 (Sun) 09:08:06 No. 13679 >>13677
Nope. I'm not.
Also, I was going to ask if there is any specific location you, anon, want wallpaper to. I love so many locations that I don't even know which I'd like choose. Any suggestions?
picrelated is not mine
Anonymous 10/10/18 (Wed) 10:44:15 No. 13692
If I were to suggest a wallpaper for a specific world, I'd say that the Lotus Waters would be a good choice.
Anonymous 10/11/18 (Thu) 07:05:40 No. 13693
I agree with you anon. It has those pretty pastel colors and soft atmosphere.
Anonymous 10/22/18 (Mon) 22:44:46 No. 13762
>>13699 >btw this reminds me of wataru a little. don't know why
It's almost like the artist reuses Wataru's assets or something. Oh wait.
Anonymous 10/23/18 (Tue) 14:28:58 No. 13763
Is he really?.. Is this even legal?
Anonymous 10/23/18 (Tue) 15:37:40 No. 13764
Uhh, yes and no, as it turns out. Some small things like doors and bubble animations are reused, but neon signs, which I thought were reused at first, are original and only look reused.
It's not illegal as far as I know, it's just kinda..lame is all. Like, I get that Wataru's style is cool and popular, but don't you wanna do something more creative than just replicate it? Don't you have your own artistic vision to express?
Anonymous 10/24/18 (Wed) 16:13:13 No. 13765 >>13764
Well, than it's not that bad isn't it? New maps have completely different overall theme and atmosphere compared to wataru's anyway. Yes, maybe they have slightly similar artstyle, but… What do you mean about "not having artistic vision" just because those new maps used door and bubble sprites. "Door assets" don't have anything to do with atmosphere vision, aren't they?
I think you're overreacting here a bit.
Anonymous 10/24/18 (Wed) 19:27:35 No. 13768
>>13765 >I think you're overreacting here a bit.
Well, it's my personal impression of it one way or another. Doesn't help that the author wasted no time in adding another Uboa knockoff and another Takofuusen knockoff. Like that isn't done to death already.
A fan 10/30/18 (Tue) 16:29:37 No. 13826
These things are everywhere. Urosuki loves soda.
Anonymous 11/05/18 (Mon) 17:34:53 No. 13844
Man, Yume 2kki updates so often, I wish there was a way to automatically update the game.
Anonymous 11/26/18 (Mon) 23:32:15 No. 13890
made another fan remix of a 2kki song, this time of the snowy pipe organ:
Anonymous 12/04/18 (Tue) 16:34:02 No. 13892
i take a peek until i find one that fits my mood
or go for a specific one to investigate something i passed earlier
Anonymous 12/08/18 (Sat) 20:10:42 No. 13896
Ａｌｗａｙｓ ｔｈｅ ｈｅａｄｓｔｏｎｅ， ｙｏ．
Anonymous 01/02/19 (Wed) 21:04:18 No. 13907
Anyone else see the new title screen they added in the recent versions? I kinda prefer the old one, the colors fit 2kki a bit more.
Anonymous 01/03/19 (Thu) 11:04:44 No. 13909
The new title sucks.
Anonymous 01/03/19 (Thu) 20:16:03 No. 13912
There's this air that they're entering a new era of 2kki and that things are being kept fresh since they changed the title and all, which I think is pretty cool. I feel like we'll look back at it and go "hey, remember the pre-new title days of 2kki?" if more things get changed and a bunch more gets added. I heard a western map maker got his maps in for the first time or something too, which is really cool; the maps look great as well and I'm looking forward to exploring them.
I just haven't updated yet.
Anonymous 01/03/19 (Thu) 20:35:40 No. 13913
>>13244 >>13245 >>13246 >>13247 >>13248 >>13249 >>13250 >>13251 >>13348
I found some interesting things.
This is a Yume 2kki archive with a lot of old versions in it, supposedly. I haven't checked it myself to see what versions it has but it seems like it's worth getting if you want to hold onto some of the versions.
And here's some really early 2kki stuff for those who are interested in that. Have fun.
Anonymous 01/03/19 (Thu) 23:06:55 No. 13914
2kki's title has never been 'set in stone' per se, so it could always be changed in the future. I admit, I don't really like it much either, but you can easily just go in and swap the titles out in the files, can't you?
The new screen seems to be trying to keep up with the other fangames having bits of their protagonists in them, like .flow having Sabi's lower body, Yume Nisshi having Uso's silhouette, LCDDEM having Chie's skull plate, and even the original Yume Nikki having Mado's penis in it.
Anonymous 01/04/19 (Fri) 01:15:14 No. 13915
Can anyone post the title? I don't feel like downloading 200mb just to check that.
Anonymous 01/04/19 (Fri) 16:35:20 No. 13917
I hope they revert it, it looks like an odd palette to use.
Anonymous 01/04/19 (Fri) 17:13:01 No. 13918
Eh, honestly it's just bad compared to the old one. It feels… "amateurish"? Like it was made in 10 seconds or so without much thought put into it. The old one, while simple, at least had charm.
Anonymous 01/21/19 (Mon) 15:18:29 No. 13942
-2 looks the best to me, but they're all gorgeous.
Anonymous 01/21/19 (Mon) 20:16:11 No. 13943
I really like how 6.png looks, but
They all look fantastic.
Anonymous 01/23/19 (Wed) 01:44:32 No. 13944
So… Can someone explain to me what exactly was the whole thing with this "Artoax" kid?
I know that I am very late into this topic but, I just got curious.
Anonymous 01/23/19 (Wed) 02:05:14 No. 13945
Autistic kid pretending to be koronba and later trying to join 2kki's dev team without even knowing how to speak japanese. Nothing important really, let him die.
Anonymous 02/07/19 (Thu) 14:26:45 No. 13973
Is this issue present on new games as well?
Anonymous 02/08/19 (Fri) 06:23:11 No. 13974
Play it on a VM with WinXP.
Like, seriously, unless your PC is just that much of a toaster, it should be way easier than trying to ﬁnd the way around all the kinks of the game.
Anonymous 02/08/19 (Fri) 21:31:27 No. 13975
What version is this? I just updated to 108c and it's still the old menu.
Anonymous 02/09/19 (Sat) 11:44:12 No. 13976
The title screen change was reverted almost instantly.
Anonymous 02/22/19 (Fri) 23:11:15 No. 14007
so did the team fix chaos world yet or no?
Anonymous 02/24/19 (Sun) 18:33:29 No. 14011
What's there to ﬁx about it?
Anonymous 03/12/19 (Tue) 14:46:19 No. 14040
The Pink Butterfly warp is broken because of areas that were cut out IIRC. Something to do with some Library connected to the Butterfly Garden.
Anonymous 03/17/19 (Sun) 02:34:33 No. 14048
File "system" (システム) is missing. You can copy the text of those messages by pressing ctrl+a and then ctr+c.
Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 04:25:34 No. 14059
Woah, they did it, they've implemented your wallpaper in the game.
Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 20:58:47 No. 14062
Oh and I should also mention that it completely disappears after I activate it. It's not a random chance either. It's always there every time I go to it. At first i thought maybe it got sent to the room with all the other effects, but there was nothing new there when i looked for it.
Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 21:52:35 No. 14063
those are different menu themes. those egg shapes are exclusive to wataru levels
also seitsatsu really fucked up in how you have to scroll your ass all the way up to make a post.
Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 21:58:04 No. 14065 >>14063
Oh thanks. I wasn't sure if it was an effect or something. That's pretty cool though.
And i did manage to find it on the wiki on the menu themes page.
Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 01:28:33 No. 14066
>>14063 >also seitsatsu really fucked up in how you have to scroll your ass all the way up to make a post.
Either press "home" in your keyboard or use the "[Go to top]" button at the end of every thread.
Yep, the message in japanese is メニュータイプ：９ (Menu type: 9).
Anonymous 04/18/19 (Thu) 18:45:05 No. 14116
Do any absolute madlads here still have versions between 0.086e and 0.092? Need to investigate some ancient removed content.
Anonymous 04/22/19 (Mon) 18:32:34 No. 14121
Anyone know why the Shadow Woman in the tic-tac-toe area of Toy World would be hostile? The wiki says she'll only go hostile if you try and chainsaw her.
I'm on .108c.
Anonymous 04/25/19 (Thu) 00:01:11 No. 14122
I think it changed between versions. IIRC now she's only friendly if you enter the tic-tac-toe room from the Art Gallery. Otherwise she's hostile just like any other chaser.
Anonymous 05/03/19 (Fri) 11:39:47 No. 14131
Since 0.109, access to Erratic Pillar Lands is done through looking at the comet through the attic's telescope at night.
In prior versions, just go forward as soon as you hear the static noise to get to that world.
Anonymous 05/24/19 (Fri) 08:55:42 No. 14165
Seems it was on my end, reinstalling fixed it.
Anonymous 05/31/19 (Fri) 12:05:45 No. 14194
If anyone tries to get it to work on mac here is what I did…
The way I got it running on mac is installing easyrpg player (
) then going to the yume2kki site (
) and downloading the already extracted japanese RTP (
) then putting everything from the RTP folders into the game folders without replacing files and then it worked. Might not be the best method but it's the only way I could get it to work.
Anonymous 06/17/19 (Mon) 17:54:52 No. 14263
Am I the only one that feels like this game is a bit inconsistent in it's quality? I guess it is to be expected of something as big as this with as many developers as there are and I mean a lot of the areas are still really good but some feel a bit boring in both its subject matter and layout and I also feel like they fail to form a coherent whole unlike YN.
Anonymous 06/17/19 (Mon) 18:47:33 No. 14264
>>14263 >but some feel a bit boring in both its subject matter and layout and I also feel like they fail to form a coherent whole unlike YN.
Curious, as YN also had these, which should it fail to form a coherent whole like YN.
Anonymous 06/23/19 (Sun) 12:23:51 No. 14275
So apparently this game is a massive one that is made by several different people. Is there multiple different versions of this game? Or is there one definitive one?
Anonymous 06/23/19 (Sun) 14:31:09 No. 14276
While it's made by a team of different developers, it's still coordinated by a central commitee.
Therefore, there are only official versions. (Sure, there are unofficial translations, but apart from the text, they are identical to the original releases.)
Anonymous 06/25/19 (Tue) 11:44:25 No. 14284
Ok so looking at the site there is a few english translations for it. I assume wolfens is the best one for this? I just want to make sure I am getting the best experience for this game as I never truly gave it a shot.
Anonymous 06/25/19 (Tue) 15:23:33 No. 14288
No idea about the translations, never used any.
And I believe they are not really necessary either. While this game has a more complex menu system than pretty much any of the "traditional" fangames, with some basic Japanese, you will be fine. And if you are not sure about something, just check the wiki and this board, most things have been translated already.
Well, there are the library books and some things scattered around the dream world that are quite hard to translate, but I doubt any of the unofficial translations has those covered either. Besides, they are part of the artwork, not the GUI.
Anonymous 07/19/19 (Fri) 10:54:26 No. 14306
If they're newer worlds then there's still time for them to be improved on, since that was also the case for a lot of older maps.
Anonymous 08/16/19 (Fri) 05:05:25 No. 14336
So I've put over 300 hours in to a very outdated version of the game, going to the same places over and over in search of details (I don't want to use a walkthrough) and before upgrading to the recent English patch I went a route that led me to school that I couldn't retrace no matter what. The thing with this route is that it landed me in what looked like Madotsuki's room, but all drawn with neon lines against black. Starting at the balcony door then exiting through the door to the nexus, it took me too a hall that I had to backtrack in to get to the school. I looked for information regarding a callback to mado's room in 2kki but couldn't find anything.
Does anyone else have any memory of something like this or am I just brainhurt?
Anonymous 08/16/19 (Fri) 20:25:07 No. 14338
That's it, thanks. I don't know how I missed it on the wiki.
Anonymous 12/11/19 (Wed) 03:48:14 No. 14409
What the fuck happened with Wataru and why did he took down his maps?
Anonymous 12/11/19 (Wed) 18:46:14 No. 14412
I've heard he was being harassed but where? I've seen nothing but praise from his worlds here, is this from the Japanese side?
Anonymous 12/11/19 (Wed) 20:49:07 No. 14413 >>14412
Haven't heard anything about any harassment. There's word that this isn't out of character for him, since he's done the same with older artwork on DeviantArt, apparently, but I'm unsure how true that is.
Pic is a statement from 0.110d's contributing author on the reversion, if someone wants to translate.
Anonymous 12/12/19 (Thu) 01:35:26 No. 14414
658 qxy $ TnRajQU.Lw 2019/12/10 (Tue) 19: 57: 56.01 ID: B1jNbVV8
Regarding Mr. Wataru's update,
After talking with Mr. Wataru, we decided to discard ver0.110c and its patches.
As a result, the latest version of the game is ver0.110b.
Mr. Wataru said that he would no longer write on the thread, so he wrote it instead.
In addition, as for Mr. Wataru's production range, he wanted to leave an intention to edit in the change log.
Later, I will create a patch that will update the changelog.
In spite of a difficult decision, Mr. Wataru sheds the feelings of other producers and people who play.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
I am sorry for Mr. Shigurin and others who worked on bug handling and understanding.
t. Google Translate
Anonymous 02/28/20 (Fri) 07:43:31 No. 14554
Some godlike human being made Yume 2kki location connections map.
I've been dreaming to see something like this for god knows how long…
Anonymous 03/09/20 (Mon) 01:22:07 No. 14578
So, to start, I haven't played 2kki in a few years I think… I decided it was a nice time to hop back into it… I got to the forest pier, and when I was crossing the long, long bridge, there was this extra bit of bridge going up near the west side of the bridge. I'm using the map on the wiki, because, let's face it this place is fuckin huge.
This little spot I found doesn't appear to be mentioned on the wiki or shown on the map? Going up the extra bridge, I get taken to a little mess of path and trees. Very short, easy enough to navigate. I eventually get to image related. I walk into the door, but nothing seems to happen. I've tried using the few effects I already have (it's not much really) and still nothing. Maybe I missed it, but is this something new and just not completed yet?
Anonymous 03/09/20 (Mon) 01:23:29 No. 14579
Hey, haven't been around in forever. Were HD wallpapers ever released? I always wanted to use the unlockable wallpapers for my own PC. Thanks.
Anonymous 03/09/20 (Mon) 23:38:04 No. 14581
Lmao nevermind, I figured it out. Was just the apartments warp.
Anonymous 03/09/20 (Mon) 23:40:26 No. 14582
Was an artist source page ever released? Or, at least, was the artist for the wolf effect wallpaper ever mentioned? A friend really wanted that one. All the wallpapers are so nice, I hope there's some way for me to not have to hunt for each one…
Anonymous 03/10/20 (Tue) 01:42:41 No. 14583
In the worst case, you can always use saucenao or any other reverse-search system to try to find them.
Anonymous 03/13/20 (Fri) 17:36:49 No. 14586
I just realized that the beginning of this Poppy song:
Really sounds like the 2kki Gardens Theme:
Anonymous 03/13/20 (Fri) 20:48:57 No. 14587
It's probably one of those arpeggios that was popular enough in the renaissance to earn a name. A lot of DAWs let you create them in a single click and I believe guitar instructors teach them early
Anonymous 03/15/20 (Sun) 21:10:03 No. 14590
forgot to mention this: just in case anyone asks, yes, i do have locale emulator installed and working
Anonymous 03/15/20 (Sun) 21:13:19 No. 14591
"Incorrect bitmap image"
Not sure what it's referencing.
Anonymous 04/05/20 (Sun) 01:44:04 No. 14647
I would love to see something of this sort.
Anonymous 04/18/20 (Sat) 01:22:25 No. 14663 >>14647
Distributing Yume 2kki for free on Itch.io,Gamejolt and/or Steam would make it more popular but most importantly it would preserve it and protect it from the risk of being lost in time like happens to many other pieces of media and software.
Once they put it on these plaform these platform they can continue to work on it forever,adding more content with the serenity that the game they are creating will never be lost to time and disappear.
Basically making the game eternally available by putting it on one or more of these sites/platforms that will be around for a LONG time in the future.
Doing this won't change the underground nature of the game.
If possible i would like to ask anyone who can ge in contact with them to please tell the developers about this opportunity.
I like the game so much that i want to prevent any risk of it being lost to time and disappear.
Anonymous 04/18/20 (Sat) 04:31:34 No. 14665
You guys have to understand that most japanese devs aren't really comfortable with getting into the western side of things as they don't understand anything about it. Imagine if some random dude from a country that doesn't speak your language wants you to post your stuff in some random platform, and you can't even read their shit. How would you know what you're doing? How would you know what kind of license are you signing to? What about feedback?
And all of this supposing you actually felt comfortable with doing that.
Anonymous 04/20/20 (Mon) 13:23:07 No. 14668 >>14665
There are a ton of japanese gamers that use Steam and even doujin japanese developers(especially the younger ones) use Steam to sell their games.
Basically we need to inform the developers and community of Yume 2kki about this opportunity.
Even Kikiyama has put his game on Steam.
Anonymous 04/20/20 (Mon) 15:20:57 No. 14669
>>14668 >There are a ton of japanese gamers that use Steam and even doujin japanese developers(especially the younger ones) use Steam to sell their games.
Keyword: Sell their games.
2kki devs do it because they're happy working in the game, and they know it does fairly well in the community overseas. But you have to remember there are a fuck ton of people working on that, and I'm sure not all of them would be okay with that for the reasons I mentioned already.
>Even Kikiyama has put his game on Steam.
Leaving aside the fact we don't know if it's him or not just to not derail into pointless discussion (please), that was through a third party that basically consisted of a team of people who was western.
You can write to them; their thread is open. iirc there's also a mail? Although I'm not sure how often they check it. But I doubt they'll do it.
Anonymous 04/20/20 (Mon) 22:13:09 No. 14670
Several japanese doujin developers have also published their games on Steam for free.
I assure you that since Kikiyama holds the rights for his game,when japanese publisher PLAYISM publised his game on Steam for free,did so with his full knowledge and consent,otherwise he would have brought them to court for copyright infringement/intellectual property theft.
If possible,can you give me a link to their thred,which you mentioned and also their email address?
I would be glad to contact them and explain all this to help them preserve the ir beautiful game.
Anonymous 04/21/20 (Tue) 04:09:39 No. 14672
>>14670 >I assure you that since Kikiyama holds the rights for his game,when japanese publisher PLAYISM publised his game on Steam for free,did so with his full knowledge and consent,otherwise he would have brought them to court for copyright infringement/intellectual property theft.
There's a difference between having some people who explains things to you (who are western, also) versus publishing on your own.
Current 2kki thread
If there's a mail, it should be in the readme of 2kki or that message right after you start a new game.
Anonymous 04/21/20 (Tue) 08:52:29 No. 14673
The link is broken for me.
Also there are plenty of free gaming host sites/platform in Japan,if they don't want to use western platforms they can always use those.
Anonymous 04/21/20 (Tue) 15:44:13 No. 14674
Wasn't there a website that hosted Yume 2kki already?
Anonymous 07/16/20 (Thu) 14:45:37 No. 14743
I always wondered what would happen if I put a save file from a recent version to an older version and played it. Would anything werid happen? Would the game break?
Anonymous 07/16/20 (Thu) 23:17:45 No. 14746
There's one way to find out.
Who Sampled? Anonymous 07/24/20 (Fri) 21:15:47 No. 14752
Hey, there's something i've been wondering for a couple of days, is the theme loop for Cog maze a low-pitched slowed-down sample taken from the theme 'Lounge - Evening Outside', from the DS game Clubhouse Games, or am i just bad at identifying samples?
So, here's the DS track:
sorry i had to mark it from a 2h complete soundtrack, but it's not available in other videos.
And I think you're already familiar with N3-KtO
btw, can't believe how the site has changed, .flow and 2kki used to have their own threads, i remember. Anyways, take care!
hope we can all get out of this.
Unnecesary data: Cog Maze translates Haguruma in japanese, which is the name of a short story by Ryunosuke Akutagawa. Can be pretty interesting to read, but it wasn't for me.
Anonymous 08/10/20 (Mon) 19:07:57 No. 14791
That makes a lot of sense, nigga.
Anonymous 08/17/20 (Mon) 15:17:27 No. 14814
As of 113 Wataru has deleted his maps. Again. I do not know what his problem is.
Anonymous 08/17/20 (Mon) 22:57:11 No. 14815
Did the game break completely again or is it a proper removal this time around?
Anonymous 08/17/20 (Mon) 23:14:16 No. 14816
Seems to be an intentional removal.
Anonymous 08/19/20 (Wed) 16:13:10 No. 14817
Does anyone have a download link for 0.112g? There's something I want to check out on it.
Anonymous 08/24/20 (Mon) 22:37:03 No. 14823
Speaking on the topic of preservation…
I've experienced more issues with RPG Maker games lately, but particularly 2kki, for whatever reason. I used to not have problems at all, but a few times in the past few years new issues have appeared that seemed to require frustrating workarounds, sacrifices, or just ended up disappearing some time later. The error messages I've gotten have also never been enlightening. I've had it where the game is working perfectly fine for me and I play it every day for a few days, and then the next day I go to play it once more and suddenly it won't start. I don't really know why, but my impression of RPG Maker games is that they're kind of unstable and fickle and require a strange amount of setup and awareness of possible issues to make sure things work properly. I just worry that at some point I simply won't be able to play the game anymore, and I wonder if these kinds of issues are even something that can be solved by RPG Maker users or if they're ultimately the result of lower level parts of RPG Maker itself.
Anonymous 08/28/20 (Fri) 02:43:12 No. 14832
have you tried using easyrpg
Anonymous 08/28/20 (Fri) 04:50:41 No. 14833
Does anyone know why Wataru's stuff was removed? I really liked his maps, and I'm disappointed to see them go. I know I can always see them in older builds, but still.
Anonymous 08/29/20 (Sat) 02:27:55 No. 14836
I hadn't heard of it, but I just got the player and tried it with 2kki, and it's working perfectly so far.
Looking into it more, even though it's a work in progress and has some issues (some bug regarding 2kki was just fixed last week in fact), this seems like a great project that eases my concerns.
Anonymous 08/30/20 (Sun) 10:52:18 No. 14839
He nuked his entire twitter once too. I think he might have emotional issues though I don't want to assume too much.
Anonymous 08/30/20 (Sun) 14:13:28 No. 14841
nvm just had to update easyrpg lol
Anonymous 08/30/20 (Sun) 23:24:13 No. 14842
That's my impression too.
I just started reading the dev threads a bit, with my limited Japanese knowledge.
I haven't gotten far, and there are definitely connotations and nuances I'm missing, so my understanding of things is very incomplete, but I get the feeling he is known for having such issues.
For example, there was a response to the announcement of the removal of all his maps back in June that said something like:
You'll be stuck in this negative loop forever.
Even if you separate yourself from this, you will still have your 'arbitrary expectations, arbitrary despair' and 'desire to erase' personality that you can't escape from.
Until your end, you'll eternally repeat this cycle.
As someone who was deeply affected by your work, I wish for your happiness… But, well, I'm afraid to say, it probably won't happen."
(my translation, could have things wrong)
Anonymous 08/31/20 (Mon) 01:47:03 No. 14843
i hope wataru finds happiness :(
Anonymous 09/03/20 (Thu) 11:39:50 No. 14845
Seems sadly common among YNFG developers. Doing all this work for free can't ever be easy.
Anonymous 09/03/20 (Thu) 23:43:26 No. 14847
truly a god among men
Anonymous 09/08/20 (Tue) 10:07:27 No. 14854 >>14846
Yeah, I really love the newer stuff. For a while I kind of lost interest in 2kki, but recently I feel like there's been a boom of cool additions. In the last few days there have been some big updates, so I still have a lot left to check out.
qxy's are definitely some of my favorites. Not only is the art really nice and polished, but I like that most of his areas have something mechanically or structurally unique/clever too. Like for example the sunrise in the Snowy Forest, the looping floor changes in the Techno Condominium and the different things on each floor, the downward floating in the Aquatic Cubes place, etc. Lots of other things. I dunno, his maps are just well-designed.
A broad criticism I have of 2kki is that some areas can feel like I'm just walking around some some big place and looking at a tileset because they lack interactivity, or a feeling of being physically connected to adjoining areas (even in a surreal setting I think that can be really important), or real purposeful *design* that makes them feel immersive or interesting to explore.
Maybe that's just the opinion of someone who's played 2kki a long time, for whom there's less to spontaneously discover. Or maybe it only really applies to a few areas, I dunno.
But I'm glad the recent updates have been exciting to me again.
That's really cool. You can even make it display in 3D. Just used it to map out a route.
Anonymous 10/04/20 (Sun) 01:12:13 No. 14866
Really cool. Dreamt of that
Anonymous 01/06/21 (Wed) 17:36:03 No. 14940
have any of you figured out the unlock conditions to the innocent dream? i can't figure it out even after i've tried looking at the source in rpgmaker itself
Anonymous 01/24/21 (Sun) 22:43:46 No. 14968
The quality seems to be in declive lately, I really don't like Sniperbob worlds at all and i feel the newest Aegiorudap route is very bad for being the newest deepest world in the game.
it bothers me alot
Anonymous 02/04/21 (Thu) 05:21:02 No. 14992 >>14940 >>14982
okay, nothing conclusive, but i found a few more hints on the wiki via some comments.
"Most likely you are clinging to something that you think you need, but you actually don't. Let go of it, or you'll never get there no matter what you try."
"Without giving too much away, look at the page for Innocent Dream and take note of which NPCs are there. It's a pretty big hint of what you need to do to get there."
"make sure you've already done all the stuff in spelude's worlds. here are some hints:
1 - interact with the piano girl from the piano room to play her song. after it, head south of the piano and youll be teleported to the firefly lake
2 - leave the glasses effect in the trophy room"
all i got for now
Anonymous 02/05/21 (Fri) 06:08:33 No. 14995
I believe I solved it. Obvious spoilers for those who want to solve it themselves.
1. Do the first two steps mentioned before. (Not even sure why visiting the firefly pond is even necessary)
2. Go to Red Lily and chainsaw nine-tails until she takes you to the red cliff.
3. Use invisible effect to make your copy disappear and then jump off the cliff.
4. Head right offscreen and then down on the intersection and it’ll take you to the island in Constellation World and hopefully it’ll be unlocked.
As mentioned before it’d be a good idea to do the other Spelude worlds first. In my data I had already unlocked all the shortcuts and visited the guardian temple and Scrambled Egg Zone so I have no idea if that’s actually required.
Honestly the puzzle was a bit disappointing. Earlier I figured I could get back to the island without glasses by using the bat effect so I was convinced that was part of the solution and the rest had to do with the number 2 and the stupid number room that the Polygon effect leads to.
Anonymous 02/07/21 (Sun) 20:09:52 No. 14996
those might very well be required because i haven’t completed the temple guardian thing and doing everything else you said didn’t work
Anonymous 02/10/21 (Wed) 19:52:04 No. 14997
there is a hidden event in the splash streetway where you are trapped by a shadow of ninetails, it might perhaps have something to do with it?
Anonymous 02/23/21 (Tue) 08:41:24 No. 15019
Vending machines and benches literally everywhere in this game
Anonymous 03/06/21 (Sat) 01:22:13 No. 15036 >>14995
I did everything you mentioned, I even completed the guardian temple, I did pretty much everything in the game. After doing everything from the instructions I am being teleported to an island with the stars in the shape of a 2(pic) and if I go up I end up on the Uro head constellation part of the map. Did I do something wrong? I never seem to get into the Innocent Dream. Was I not supposed to go up there? How am I messing this up? I have seen everything in the game BUT Innocent Dream. I am sitting at 94% of completion and 70 hours clocked in, I am desperate at this point. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Does the time of how long I let the piano girl play matter? I let her play for good 6 minutes and she still was not done, I assumed she goes forever. (She sent me to the colorful area, not the bleaker one if you listen to her for a shorter time. I wonder if she stops at some point and if there is a third one and which one is the right one.)
Anonymous 04/06/21 (Tue) 19:57:22 No. 15081
damn, this is still getting updates?
I've tried playing it on easyrpgplayer on vita (so I can play in bed) but I run into rare issues where songs don't play and I get error messages. Because of that I never go in too deep. Does anyone happen to have a solution to this extremely specific problem?
Anonymous 04/07/21 (Wed) 06:10:59 No. 15082
Yup, still getting updates. Honestly tho it's just not the same since Wataru is gone, I wouldn't bother with anything past 0.113.
Anonymous 04/26/21 (Mon) 04:24:11 No. 15089
Make sure that on your computer your files aren't jumbled messes of words that's usually the problem that easyrpg player has that or missing files otherwise I have no clue.
Anonymous 05/12/21 (Wed) 11:12:11 No. 15102
Man, I returned to 2kki after a year's break and the stuff about Wataru really was a shoker. I saw a legit question in the wikia comment section though, is there any way to manually add their worlds back in? Or maybe there has been some kind of user patch already?
Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 17:18:58 No. 15103
I think it's going to be difficult, in the future, to add them back "organically", meaning by the same entrances and exits. When the game is going to get more and more updates, the old doors that lead to Wataru's worlds will lead to other new worlds.
I think it would be possible to add them via a standalone door. the maker of the mod will need to update that mod every time there's a new update for 2kki tho. So far i have not seen a patch that added his worlds back yet.
Anonymous 05/13/21 (Thu) 20:34:48 No. 15104
Just have two folders. Older version with Wataru and a new one.
Anonymous 05/24/21 (Mon) 08:48:53 No. 15124
The point is not the ability or inability of having two versions - it's that anything past 0.113 is shit. Waste of time imo, wouldn't suggest.
Anonymous 05/25/21 (Tue) 10:46:16 No. 15125
There's a lot of good new worlds still and a lot of bad ones, so like usual I guess.
Anonymous 05/30/21 (Sun) 00:11:14 No. 15130
Is there an english translation of ver 0.113?
I've been looking for it since the wiki doesn't have it
Anonymous 09/03/21 (Fri) 01:47:38 No. 15179
I downloaded Vezon's english translation (0.114) from here:
yet the intro instruction menu was all in japanese. is that supposed to be the case, or is something wrong. I'm using easyRPG on my vita
Anonymous 09/04/21 (Sat) 15:18:24 No. 15180
Is that creepy monitor still in the game?
Anonymous 09/20/21 (Mon) 18:09:48 No. 15207
Easyrpg can't render really large images which 2kki has a lot of. I get that error a lot. Try posting on easyrpg forum but I doubt anything can be done.
Anonymous 09/22/21 (Wed) 12:52:44 No. 15218
I've played 2kki for a while on EasyRPG and haven't encountered that issue yet. Is there a specific world it occurs?
Anonymous 10/30/21 (Sat) 20:46:17 No. 15254
speludes maps piss me the fuck off
Anonymous 11/15/21 (Mon) 00:40:06 No. 15255
I'm trying to port a save file over from 0.112b to 0.117f and it isn't working. Everything else works fine, including starting a new save. I get the following error :
ファイル pc yumegamen 01-5a は開けません Does anyone know if the two versions are incompatible ? Maybe because they moved the wallpapers after removing the wataru worlds
Anonymous 11/16/21 (Tue) 05:18:46 No. 15256
Hi, does somebody know where to find a download to 0.102c? The one in the wiki doesn't work for me. I'm kinda curious about the removed deaths in GALAXY TOWN, where they that gruesome?
Anonymous 11/25/21 (Thu) 02:05:10 No. 15267
spelude's maps are not nearly good enough to warrant how confusing and esoteric their conditions are