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http://dreamdiarypodcast.com/episodes-latest/^ Sourced from Dream Diary Episode 6 Podcast, but I think these details may be appreciated by others on their own.
-So this first point most already know, but the game is being developed primarily by Active Gaming Media Inc. with heavy supervision and support by Kikiyama. They're mostly a translation studio who's translated everything from No More Heroes to Soul Caliber to Little King's Story to Heavest Moon to La-Maluna. They started game development more recently to help indie studios bring games to life, IE they helped develope the recent remake of Suda51's The Silver Case, and apparently have several titles their helping develop right now. Amusingly as the site hasn't updated since Yume Nikki's announcement, but of their "Unannounced" titles it's obvious which one is Yume Nikki in retrospect. This would be their second major project that's not porting or localization after The Silver Case, though.
-The choice of art style is partially down to wanting to bring Yume Nikki to a modern audience. They knew the look of the game would be divisive to fans of the original, but they tried to respect the world of the original while doing their own take.
-The art director of the project nearly had a heart attack when he learned their next project was going to be Yume Nikki, he's a huge fan of the original.
-The game apparently has not been in development for very long, only around 8-9 months. The game started with about 4 people in-house working on it (plus Kikiyama out of house), but has since expanded to around 9-10 people. They've been crunching it a lot and been focusing to make it quality, but with their resources and many on the team being familiar with the source material and having a direct line with the creator it hasn't actually been that hard to develop. They hope to surprise a lot of people with it.
-Everyone working on the team before they started working on the project were given the task to play (or replay) Yume Nikki from start to finish before they began work on it.
-It's a sort of reboot or re-imagining of the original game. There will be more news for the game on January 31st.
-Kikiyama is properly on board with the project, he worked as a designer on the project and personally signed off on everything he chose for them to move forward with on the project and contributed ideas and scrapped ideas for the original for things to be added to it. Everything has gone through and been approved by Kikiyama for this project.
-Apparently how Kikiyama got involved was not that extravagant. They used the public email on Kikiyama's site and got into contact with them. Kikiyama has received a LOT of emails over the years and is not very happy about it, they asked only for people to email them about project relevant stuff. Kikiyama will not be doing interviews or popping up online anytime soon though, they aren't getting involved with the public.
-The team doesn't know exactly what's next for Yume Nikki after this, they'll see how people receive this game first. The door is open for more Yume Nikki in the future, but that's not set in stone either.
Just some tidbits, but all very interesting.
82 posts and 14 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. No.612
Christ what a shitshow.
No.614
>>610Are you even reading what I'm saying? No, seriously. I never said all of us are here because of him. Not even most, or that we are "probably here because of him", as you said. I said some of us may be (I actually said "a lot", which I regret now. I didn't think you would be so annoying about something I said without much thought just to make an argument, without thinking about actual numbers).
And yes, of course a lot of people on the internet know about YN because of Uboachan. If Uboachan wasn't there (and nothing similar appeared to fill the gap), things would be pretty different now.
And obviously you must have made someone interested in Ib. Why did you even write your review if you didn't want that to happen?
Now, your pets example does not fit. If you were part of a web that dedicated their time to post about missing pets, and you posted actively about some of them to try and help find them, then of course I would say that you probably helped save some of them. That's the point I'm trying to make. Your influence in me being here is probably 0. But the chances that you didn't influence anyone at all if this is not your first post are also probably 0. Because I'm not the only fan. I'm not the only pet that was saved. I'm one of many. And there's no time constraint either. Someone will read eventually what you posted today. And that too will have an effect, no matter how small. Keep posting, and eventually, something will make a difference for someone. You are interacting with other people, anon.
>Oh it's suddenly not important anymore! You started it lmaoAgain, read what I said. The point I was trying to make is that he's not lying about this, and that, again as I'm tired of repeating by now, like everyone who ever wrote about YN, even in chans, it probably had an influence in some of us. He's not new to the game. He didn't discover it yesterday. That was the point. You are the ones that blew it our of proportion.
But, seriously, you are all telling me about how this started in the chans, where every single post has almost no influence (or at least, one would expect so, while I disagree as I said), but someone writing a blog has no influence at all. What makes it different? Posts in chans made a difference. Blog posts made a difference. Fanart, videos, fangames, twitter posts, facebook pages, let's plays, reddit posts, and every single one of those things that you probably hate made a difference. And you hate a lot of the people that it brought us. Of course you do. I do too. But some others are all right. And I woudln't change even one single bit of it.
>>612Well, at least I have fun writing these. But I'm one of those weird people that enjoy arguments, so whatever.
No.615
>>559>racial or homophobic slurs.now i understand why you had a tranny in the first few episodes.
sorry we aren't the undertale fandom.
>apologywe didn't ask for one, or ask you to make a vapid podcast on it.
>cheers!fuck you and your pseudo-smug aura. go back to tumblr and repost dying syrians and beg for money to pay for your "passion" of being boring and uninteresting"
No.616
>>559faggot
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No.617
>>614>Not even mostNot even a small minority and possibly not even one.
>>614>And obviously you must have made someone interested in Ib.Then I am like the Lewis of Ib Right? I got ten likes.
>All that butterfly effect physicsLewis.had.zero.influence, he is not influential, he never was, modern user pinkuboa in tumblr moved more Yume Nikki grounds than Lewis a hundred times, that is all.
This imageboard is bigger and more important than Lewis for the Yume Nikki community as much as you hate it.
Also all your butterfly effect rant also means that all and every single one of us is as good as Lewis because someone may have been interested in Yume Nikki because of us.
No.618
>>614>Why did you even write your review if you didn't want that to happen?Sometimes people just write down their opinions on stuff to try to understand exactly what they liked and disliked about something.
No.620
While I understand the rage generated after the misleading information said about this site, I would like to see what else they have to offer about Yume Nikki things, maybe they can somehow get closer to Kikiyama than the rest, I mean, contacting the devs and all that.
>>559>offended by slursHitler did nothing wrong.
No.621
>>620EPISODE 7: How Problematic Fandoms Establish
No.622
>>617>Then I am like the Lewis of Ib Right? I got ten likes.Congratulations on your ten likes, anon. But remember, not everyone that read it clicked on like. I'm sure more people read it, and I'm sure that someone that didn't know about the game learned about it. Who knows, maybe they even talked to someone else about it, or they wrote another review that got more likes. Hell, maybe they even got a lot of people into the game. Or maybe nothing like that happened. But I'm not the one denying you and your work. You are doing it yourself. Hell, post your review here, and I'll send it to some people that may be interested in the game (I know you won't because you probably fear vandalizing, but I'm serious).
>Also all your butterfly effect rant also means that all and every single one of us is as good as Lewis because someone may have been interested in Yume Nikki because of us.Ok, so you really didn't read me. I'll refresh your mind.
>I don't believe Lewis is better than us. But I don't believe he's worse either. That's all I'm saying.
>This imageboard is bigger and more important than Lewis for the Yume Nikki community as much as you hate it.Again, I said this same thing:
>And yes, of course a lot of people on the internet know about YN because of Uboachan. If Uboachan wasn't there (and nothing similar appeared to fill the gap), things would be pretty different now.
>Lewis.had.zero.influence, he is not influential, he never was, modern user pinkuboa in tumblr moved more Yume Nikki grounds than Lewis a hundred times, that is all.I never said he was bigger than anyone. I'm only recognizing that he was there in 2009. The argument was never about numbers.
You are writing as if I said Lewis is some kind of god. I didn't. Lewis is a normal guy that wrote something back in the day, and is writing something now. He had some conversations with the PR team, which is cool, but that's it.
Hell, Uboachan has more influence. Someone influenced Lewis to try the game. It may have even been you for all I know. But I insist. I'm not denying anyone's part in the chain.
>>618If you publish your writing on the internet, then you want someone to read it. Otherwise, you keep it for yourself. Even if you don't hope it happens, at least you think it may happen, so you put the effort to write it where it may be read, and to make it readable (as opposed to writing personal notes that only you can understand)
No.624
>>623hi nigga. im not in this argument. im just a bystander shitposting to my content
No.625
>>624sorry, guess i misclicked
No.626
who the fuck is this lewis guy and why does he think he is important enough to have an audience with kikiyama? fuck off and leave them alone. in the eyes of this fandom you are a cockroach.
No.627
It's almost like slurs being thrown around as the punchline of every joke makes a community look like shit to outsiders or something! But you know, gotta stick to muh chan culture.
No.629
>>627Wouldn't it be great if being labeled racists kept the normies out?
No.630
>>629"Keeping the normies out" is such a stupid fucking concept. This is how communities stagnate and die, although I suppose people like you would prefer that.
No.631
>>622Lewis badmouthed ubuu on his dumb podcast and when we called him out on that, he said he was justified in doing so be becuase he's super special and contributed to the community. Lewis however objectively contributed far less than Ubuu, if anything at all. His influence is also smaller than individuals on ubuu becuase ubuu as a platform has a much larger influence than him alone, and we fuel ubuu. You cannot deny this. Lewis is a faggot and he was not in the right when badmouthing ubuu. He is completely insignificant compared to an average person and does not deserve special treatment. The remote possibility of him playing a part in introducing people to YN does not abstain him and does not make him immune to our just brutalization.
No.632
>>630t. normie
4chan stagnated and died because it let the normies in
No.633
>>627If you weren't a newfag, you would realize that that is an insignificant part of ubuu as a whole. It is allowed and that is good.The self-righteous a poison to a community. Quality over quantity. I don't want easily offended people like lewisin here.
No.634
>>630>>627If you don't like it in here you can get the fuck out, faggot, since you obviously don't belong in here.
I don't know why you even post.
No.637
>>631I work at CS. I've seen the worst of people. And I learned to navigate through a lot of shit. So let me tell you something.
When you read things, you are always centering more on the negatives than in the positives. Try to do the opposite and think: "What is the best thing this person could mean". More often than not, that's closer to the truth, and it never hurts to do so.
Now, let me ask you a question. Did you hear Lewis podcast? Because if you did, you would know that what he said about us was out of context as it was presented here.
>he said he was justified in doing so be becuase he's super special and contributed to the communityHe didn't say this. He said that he feels he put enough effort into his work. He may be wrong, and maybe it wasn't enough. But it's not fair to say he didn't with something that was gotten out of context (and probably rightly misunderstood). He's not immune to criticism, but everyone, including us, should be treated fairly.
>>636I was gonna write more, but I guess I'll stop here if you think we are getting too out of hand. Sorry for that.
No.640
Ok, since I kind of derailded the thread, let me make amends.
While I think that some of the info that's coming out is cool, and the artwork looks even gorgeous, I am really worried about the fact that one of the promotional items is a knife cutout? I understand that the knife effect may have made an impact on a lot of people, but I wouldn't like it if they made it central to the image of Mado or Yume Nikki.
What do you guys think?
No.641
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Been here since like 2011 actually, back around the time when Dream Vs. Dream was still looking like it was gonna be a thing. There's plenty of cool people and this is kinda the biggest YN community around. Yume Nikki was/is really important to me and this place played a major role in that. With that in mind, I just get a little frustrated sometimes seeing the kind of image this place gives off from the outside - because there *is* more to it than that…
In any case I guess I just let myself get too emotional there, so I'm sorry for that.
No.642
>>637>This doesn't make me feel morally superior. But it does make me feel like I've put in the appropriate effort and care in reporting the story.I don't know how you interpret this, but to me it seems like he's saying that because he was one of the first western journalists to talk abou yn, he's credible enough to have definitely not misrepresented ubuu and therefore should not apologize or take back what he said. Him being one of the first westerners to report on yn is a meaningless achievement that means nothing and gives him absolutely no more credibility or immunity to accountability. That is all.
No.643
>>640Too late. That association is already too strong. Nothing new. Let's hope that the new game is only played by people who already know about yn. New peoples' impression of yn should come soley from the original.
No.644
>>643You can hold hope hope if you want, but you already know that's not what's going to happen.
No.645
>>643I know it's not new, but with Kikiyama's supposedly involved, I was expecting otherwise. I hope it's just a PR thing, and not a core element of the game or anything. So far, I'm glad it's not showing in any other promotional image.
No.646
>>643This will be 2018 Undertale/DDLC and you know it.
No.648
>>640That one image of Mado standing on a street with a bunch of traffic cones also has her holding a bloody knife.
Can't say I like the whole Madostabby deal but I'm not surprised either that's the angle they decided to go with.
No.650
This is one of the most fucking disgusting threads I've read on any imageboard in fucking years.
You people are so delusional, insecure, and attached to a fictional property that the second any single piece of that little world you live in is challenged, or even a slight attempt is made to change it at all, you go fucking nuclear and shit your pants and scream and cry and claim that the bad men are hurting you and that you're the innocent little one trying to keep the peace.
But no, you guys fucking aren't.
I guarantee 90% of you are newfags, but the fucking fact is that this website has been infected with them ever since the Merch "FRAUD" meme, and they started latching onto a meme and turning it into a real Alex Jones conspiracy theory.
You people are either just insufferable or for the past several years you've slowly been becoming more and more paranoid about a fucking game.
And before you dare shit on me saying "I just don't care", I do.
You people couldn't separate reasonable concern and paranoia if your lives depended on it.
It's perfectly fucking reasonable to just question "Is Kikiyama really involved?"
But no, you have to scream and shout and unload you fucking thesis essays on why he's a fraud, and in all honesty I think you shit-heads like the drama now, because I only see you set impossible standards to be met to prove that Kikiyama is really involved.
He's fucking never going to update his website, e-mailing him will do nothing, nothing will happen.
You can either trust the fucking people who would probably get in a shitstorm of trouble for stealing his name, and have no good reason to, or you should shut the fuck up.
There's nothing wrong with not believing, but there is something wrong with spending all day screeching about it like a fucking child.
You people will never be pleased with any outcome you ever get and will always want more and more because you're either insatiable or you just fucking love the drama and shitstorms that ensue now, because no matter what you say, no, the things you do don't help this board.
No level of what you claim to do, your "duties" to keep out normies and newfags, fucking work. In fact it's probably drawing in more of the /v/ crowd because honestly the posting here in the past month alone has gotten worse than almost anything I see there.
You're a bunch of whiny fucking man children who can't accept when their little happy place is challenged in the slightest, even most menial ways, and will switch sides and back-pedal like I've seen at least three times each fucking thread just to always be on the "winning" side of an argument.
No.651
Just like I said before, I hope people like Matpat get ahold of the game and a bunch of "normies" pour in because it would ruin your little world. The Yume Nikki community has to evolve, even if that includes exposing it to the entire world.
No.652
Lewis was never losing. He was just failing to win over a toxic community.
No.653
>>650>This is one of the most fucking disgusting threads I've read on any imageboard in fucking years.Seriously?
>unload you fucking thesis essaysHow else would you expect peopleto react when the person who seems to have been dead for ten years allegedly is now working on something new, but is unwilling to confirm themself that they are alive?Call that, "writing thesis essays", but if you expected us to smile and not question anything, you're the delusional on. If i'm suspicious of something, obviously i'll say why i'm suspicious.
>He's fucking never going to update his websiteWhy? How hard would it really be?
>impossible standards A site update, impossible?
>You can either trust the fucking people who would probably get in a shitstorm of trouble for stealing his nameWould they though? What would you even consider to be a good reason?
What exactly do you think we feel entitled to? We're already satisfied with the game we have. There's really no point of a remake, but if they're going to make one, we'll obviously compare it to the original. 99% on the thread is just shitting on Lewis and from what I've seen of him, I don't think that's such a bad thing. I hopethe game will begood and if Kikiyama is. working on it that would be great. I don't anybody onthissite would deny those two things.
No.658
>>650It is obvious you don't care, because Sei clearly said chill.
Don't start shit, it's over and this thread is about the postcast, so unless you have something to say about it, shut it.
No.664
Based on the screenshots, it looks like there could be some .flow inspiration.
No.667
>>474Thanks a lot lewis, looking forward the next podcast
No.670
my main issue with the project so far is everything in-game looks too plain and on-the-nose for yume nikki. nothing aside from the characters stand out; the environments all just seem like normal places. also dont like how this seems to be a 2d sidescrolling game, since that drastically limits the wide exploration the original and even the fangames had. however, i feel the claims about everyone working on the project being passionate about this game are true. its hard to trust statements like that in game development, but despite my gripes with it so far, the game still feels genuine to me which makes it very difficult to guess how the final product will turn out. im hoping those screenshots are from the calmer atmospheres of the game as to keep the others a surprise
>>663this is a good post- while the promotional art looks like it fits the original tone of yume nikki, the few actual screenshots fit an entirely different style. its honestly just too early to decide how to feel
No.678
This thread is reason why Kiki killed himself.
No.708
>>663> Would it be appropriate to call it more of a re-imagining than a remakeWhich is exactly what the latest promo did
