Most of us are on discord now and have found communities on there
haha yes now I can post this as my first post after seeing the "prototype" of 4chan
>Discord>identity maintenance is now a prerequisite for backwater life
I always knew it would come to this… But so soon?>>6430
the 2 always looked better imo
I don't know. After hikki died I looked for other places, but every other place was already dead. Posted in a few of them but if no one is around there is no point in even checking them all that often.>>6429
Discord is atrocious. I doubt that a lot of the people that were around before would use that garbage. Discussing anything is basically impossible in something like that.
would you care to post some, or post where i might find some?
Lets be real we are "lsoers" in the eyes of normalfags even if we do not want that lifestyle it is what it is and I call myself a loser and own it a bit like a black will call themselves a nigger I guess.
Discord is usually trash but good places do exist but there is always drama.
I don't care about identities (let's be real, it's all pseudonyms anyway), but I do care that it's corporate trash. Why do I have to fill a Google captcha then give my phone number to some US/Chinese-owned proprietary website to just be able to talk to people online?
Worst of all is that almost everyone effectively left for Discord. Bullshit like this is almost going to make me get cured of my NEETism and force me to go outside.
Adding to this, they could've at least gone to something like matrix. Fuck. I want to go back to 2005.
why don't you leave then faggot
Where the fuck did I ever shill for it? I said it was shit in my post… All I was doing was showing that you didnt need a phone number why are you so but hurt?
/hikki/ on old 8chan was the most active place for hikkis a few years ago. Now aside from this place, I just don't know. The web is a shithole now and I avoid 99% of it like the plague. Chances are you have something more fulfilling to do with your time, like watch anime or play a simple videogame. If you must be on the Internet, there are plenty of neat little corners and alternative protocols, but they don't all center around being a loser. IRC, BBSes and Gopher all still exist. The Gemini protocol is relatively new and is growing by the day, serving a similar purpose and community as Gopher. The smol web is a thing, you know. I've found hours of entertainment just through this alone: https://wiby.me
- it's a search engine that only shows results from small/non-corpo websites. The "Surprise Me" button takes you to some magical places. Usenet sucks - don't bother paying for it. Outside the Internet, you could buy a CB radio and talk to people on that…if you're comfortable with voice comms.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QEWz-72bw
Don't bother. EVERY single "hiki" discord I've found so far, about a dozen or so, including the uboachan one, is filled with people talking about uni and wageslavery. It's time to face facts, there isn't a pure hiki neet place anywhere online. Here also, there's probably one hiki for 5 unikids assuming it's mostly the same people from the discord server, which I think it is. If you're looking for a place to run away from the unitalk and the wagietalk, then discord is definitely not for you.
It's not only discord though. Years ago when Hikkichan still existed, they had a mirc channel and that place was also filled with unitalk. You just don't see it on imageboards as much because there are rules that will ban certain topics, so people just larp and don't out themselves as often.
The only hiki place is your bedroom. Face that fact and you'll be better off.
>>6450>you could buy a CB radio and talk to people on that…if you're comfortable with voice comms.
I used to do this when I was a kid fun times. Not done it in years though.
Oh, another tech person, that's surprising. I haven't done much with the alternative protocols because I don't expect to find anything good anymore. After 8chan died, it seems like a lot of people lost all hope and disappeared from the internet, and that has happened to me to some extent as well. Anyway, I had a lot of fun with wiby too, and I occasionally recommended it in various places for a few years because I believe it deserves more attention from the right people.
Found many things that people wrote complaining about the absolute state of technology in the current year, and that was entertaining. It finds some interesting old websites too, so it has some of the appeal of Internet Archive. You can even find useful information sometimes depending on what you're looking for, because if you use a Unix system, you use something that is very old and that has been consistent for a long time, and some old pages can be helpful. Additionally, people writing anything of value tend to have simple websites that are more likely to be there.
I've been lurking on tvch.moe
Discord and pretty much all social media are pretty flag-happy in that the algorithm may think you're a bot and asks for your phone number so you can regain access to your account.
"Bot" behavior includes basic privacy actions like using a VPN, by the way.
As a hikikimori I don't know why you're so surprised non-NEET people are as alienated as us "losers". Work sucks and school is a prison but not everyone lives in some social democracy where you can say fuck it and live off NEETbucks.
As an anecdote I've been for a decade on some other textboard where we all were hikkiNEETs but now that we're older (around 30s) a big part of the community was forced to enter the workforce and get their surplus value extracted to make ends meet. It's depressing but we all got each other's backs despite being anonymous instead of being cunts over retarded identity bullshit.
I've similarly been frustrated with not having any active neet community to spend time with.
I made my own hikkineet discord and there's a few of us who are active and watch anime together. I'm pretty much in vc 24/7 streaming my screen like the depraved hikki I am.
I'm hoping that eventually some depraved neets on the same caliber as myself join one day. The kinds living in squalor with layers of crust forming on their skin. I really don't know where those types hang out, as someone with no friends.
Why would you want to stream your screen? Some sense of merging yourself with other people?
yeah, feel like I'm sharing experiences with ppl. >>6474
are you in any better neet servers?
I'm not really attached to the Hikki identity and don't care what is or isn't 'real' Hikki but I used to care, and I think the mentality is understandable. People who feel they are Hikki want to hang with other Hikkis because they expect (reasonably) that most non-Hikkis will treat them with some mixture of bewilderment and contempt. Like anyone they want someone to relate to and they want to be treated with sympathy and understanding so shortlisting people by Hikki status is just a mechanism to find people who they expect will be more likely to fit this bill. In reality I think everyone in the world is unique so no matter how you define a group there will always be a lot of diversity in that group so a Hikki will still end up with a lot of different opinions, experiences, etc in their group and since they'll base their definition of true Hikki closely on themselves they'll find that most people don't qualify because like all human beings they are one of a kind.
There ARE too many people discussing their frequent outings and girlfriends on Hikki servers but at least for me I don't think that sorting by Hikkidom is all that potent as a mechanism for finding people I can get on with. Life is complicated and people take all sorts of different paths. There are non-Hikkis who will be sympathetic and understanding and there are Hikkis who have completely different reasons than you and who will berate your reasons and consider you a fake Hikki. Although it is impossibly difficult I think it is better to try to find people who accept you regardless of their background or position rather than finding people who are just in a vaguely similar position to you at one particular moment of their life.
>>6422>where are all the losers hanging out online now
I don't know. The hiki's I knew were forced into work/have died/were saved by chance, such as a parasite/housewife relationship. Somehow all that 2012+ ideology madness missed me and I've been frozen in time since the early 00's, so I feel the world has gone a little mad in a way worse than my delusions about it as a kid.
As for me: I play one free MMO and try to keep to myself and stay healthy.
>>6546>There are non-Hikkis who will be sympathetic
Yes, there are, but the amount of people that I ever really enjoyed talking to is so small that anything that improves the odds is worth it, especially that went from happening somewhat frequently to not happening at all. And most of them were hikkis because that's the level of social dysfunction that is expected from anyone psychologically compatible with me. But of course, even if someone like that stops being a hikki, that compatibility doesn't suddenly go away. Even if I stop being one and can manage to stay alive, it will be very close.
I was thinking about creating a fresh server for NEET people on discord, I know it's a pretty disliked platform but idk what else would be better besides maybe IRC. I just feel like those servers already exist although not specifically neet, I know there are NEETs on lainchan IRC and so on. Anyways I'm going to leave a link here because it seems like the perfect topic. There isn't going to be any mods or whatever and only 1 channel. I just want some hikki people to talk to.
Holy crap, I was re-reading that just the other day. It's really good outsider art.
Usually ends up being a dead server or non-hikki, you're most likely right, were just not great at opening up…
Yea its pretty sad but I still have hope that there can be place for us to talk how ever unlikely that may be.
Like what >>6547
said all the losers went to /pol/ or to a tranny discord or both
I always thought imageboards were dying because NEETs and other "losers" (like myself) have gotten to the age that such a lifestyle is no longer sustainable. So they either killed themselves to avoid being homeless or joined the workforce. The brave few left embraced the life of a transient (kinda like myself).
I come here sometimes, maybe once a month. The big chans are terrible, and the smaller ones (at least the ones I've found) are full of porn or other similar junk.
Unfortunately, discord and other discussion platforms are filled with normalfags or trannies, so it doesn't leave very many options.
I try to occupy myself with other things and consider occasions where I get to talk to nice people as highlights of the month.
Hope you'll find a place you like, just don't get too caught up in trying to find one.>>6450
I spent all day just looking at stuff on that search engine, thanks for posting.
I will challenge the idea that a community needs to be slow to be quality this is true to ap oint but have you never seen all the small slow imageboards and BBS that are just fulll of shitposts?
I think a sense of community is needed and up to a point it can be active as long as you have 3-5 people active at a time on a discord who are quality users the server can remain high quality and there are times where shitposting is fine but the users need to know that when a topic comes up worthy of discussion it is time to try make quality discussion.
As far as I see it with imageboards the problem starts at the top.
The admin needs to get the place known and remove people who do not fit in and this is a hard thing to do properly.
The idea that slow means good is bullshit because what determines good has nothing to do with being slow it just needs to be slow enough that someone can sit down and put effort into a post without it quickly dropping off the board or being ignored.
What matters more than something being slow is the quality of the community to start with.>>6563
Imageboards are probably dying because the new generations getting online care more about validation so need upvotes and reddit and normie social media is just the obvious choice so even if a kid gets onot imageboards they will still have learnt internet culture from cancerous normalfags.
It takes too much effort to make any community online..
imageboards suck because their format doesn't faciliate in depth discussion and long-form text from knowledgable and reputable people. That's why forums are better.
Most of the neet and hikki discord servers are dead because hardly anyone chats in them, or the moderator decides to delete the server
After how 8chan got banned by cloudflare so they lost their ddos protection, 8chan was stupid enough to publicly admit they were using epik hosting, so epik's upstream providers threatened to deny service unless 8chan was dropped. After that, webmasters view imageboards as "too hot to handle" for having politically correct opinions, so to attract mainstream advertisers like Disney and Coca Cola, they have to run different types of websites and go for the uplifting warm and fuzzy news that's designed to go viral, like Buzzfeed, Upworthy and Huffington post.
spelling correction, I meant politically INcorrect opinions
>>6574>imageboards suck because their format doesn't faciliate in depth discussion and long-form text from knowledgable and reputable people
I disagree. I think imageboards can be great for that, not all that dissimilar from forums, and even better in many ways (like not having to create an account and be a new member and feel like an intruder, something that terrifies me, and then maintain a constant identity). The problem is that a lot of boards can be too fast for that. With the right relatively small group of people, it can be great, but the problem is that small imageboards tend to be too dead for that to happen. 8chan was actually good, and I only realized the extent of that after it was already gone. It wasn't fast, and was even slow depending on the board, but it was still just active enough to work. The ability to create new boards was another positive. If there isn't a good board for a specific niche, chances are someone will eventually make one, even if it takes multiple attempts. But now that's gone, and it seems like it wasn't replaced by anything and most people just disappeared.
Why do retards always insist on moving over to Discord? Is it the namefagging? Do they feel warm giving their phone number, E-Mail, and a full archive of their posts to corporations? Fuck off with that shit.
To answer your question OP, there are numerous hikki communities across the internet. I don't know if there's anything on Discord and quite frankly don't care, its garbage. Most of them are about as slow as this place and about the same in terms of post quality. Its better not to link to alternative communities, lest underageb& and room temperatures find their way inside to make them uncomfortable, but with some effort you can find them looking through old threads and imageboard lists that get posted every few months.
>>6454>I believe it deserves more attention from the right people
Eh. Wiby's just a directory of old personal web pages that you can't interact with. A lot of the webpages Wiby redirects you to were built by pretty intelligent people that are now dead, and some of their ramblings are decently interesting.
In this day and age, I see a lot of people on imageboards act like making a shoddy neocities page is somehow "reviving the golden age of the internet". Alternative social media and alternative video sharing sites are just a waste of time and resources in my opinion. The idea of social media is pretty dogshit in general (aside from art sites that don't censor their users), and the concept of YouTube is just something average people trying to recreate it couldn't handle. A platform more than 60% of the global population upload their videos to every second, is impossible to host without turning the site into a mega corporation. I mean just look at what happened to Vidlii and Vidme. Aside from imageboards, blogs and forums, YouTube is a site I get a lot of use from. Despite how wretched their post 2006 design is, you can still fiddle with the filters enough to find exactly what you're looking for. It's by far the most extensive library of… everything, on the internet.
I miss magicchan
You know the bunker?
There you go friend, I hope you like it.https://anon.cafe/tower/
I've heard about anon.cafe but I thought it was just another shitty 8chan ripoff. thank you kindly anon.
Anon.cafe is a board within a "webring" of various imageboards that fractured from the original 8chan. Most of these are pretty low activity but there is 8chan.moe which is being ran by the BO of /tech/ from original 8chan and some other people. It has branded itself as the "new" 8chan, though even the users of the site itself kind of disagreed with sticking with the 8chan branding and found it unnecessary at best and bad optics are worst. But for better or for worse it has open board creation and pretty relaxed rules so it fits the same ideals of 8chan pretty closely.
The answer to "where is everyone" is that most anons these days have probably fucked off into some discord room to circle jerk. But the answer to where is whatever is left of the 8chan user base, 90% of them are probably back on cuckchan and the other 10% are on 8chan.moe and spread around on webring sites like zzzchan.xyz
Most webring sites have a webring page that lists boards from every site within the webring, barring any they've removed from their own webring listings for various reasons.
>>6432>Discord is atrocious
this, the chat system is so fucking gay
Seriously, what the fuck happened to 4chan? I'm preaching to the choir, but I remembered when you could actually be offensive and have a lot of fun… For fucks sake, I was banned from FUCKING /pol/ for saying nigger! How the hell did that happen?!
Rant over, maybe I'll fuck off and play some Madness Project Nexus or City of Heroes…
This is so interesting.
i find this interesting too. when did you start working on your waifu? what kind of model are you using?
>>6450>The web is a shithole now and I avoid 99% of it like the plague. Chances are you have something more fulfilling to do with your time, like watch anime or play a simple videogame.
I guess that's all there is to do anymore. The internet isn't the same place it used to be many years ago. The communities and websites I used to enjoy are either dead or dying, or simply don't exist anymore. The most popular websites people go to now I don't understand and I don't relate to anyone on there (Twitter, Reddit, all that other fucking trash). Imageboards like this and 4chan are really the only places that still give me that "old internet" feeling but even then they are also falling apart. This site is basically dead and 4chan is getting worse by the day.
I don't know anymore. It feels kind of scary that things have changed so much. The comfy internet of years passed is gone, and now it's just a dystopian nightmare. I guess what you say is all I can do. Just… play video games. And watch anime.
Started out on 4chan moved to 8chan still browse /jp/, ive been on various boards most listed on the webring plus ive followed the /cow/ board since 888chan, i use forums more these days yet i always lurk.
as far as discord goes , yes some small comfy ones i thought the platform was useless but i was in large servers, i prefer a couple of fun posters and ive found a few.>>6735
nice, ive created my own form of interaction for at least a decade now, videos movies animu asmr even video games, the most difficult part is vc when im up to it im fine once it's over and i no longer feel a need to interact with anyone (which for me is going to the store.)
Tohno-chan is full of incels
The first paragraph tickles my nerd brain. I've played with alot of popular AI like cleverbot when AI's were just toys, but It makes me really curious how far we've come for someone to just make an AI and have conversations with it like a person on the Internet. What about the therapeutic implications of a personalized AI to talk to…
I'm rambling. TL;DR, this was a really nice read and I'm actually glad something like this helps you manage your anxiety and make you happy.
>To be honest I don't think people enjoy posting on imageboards anymore
I'm not going to pretend to be "the people", but IMO I enjoy lurking and the occasional posting every once in a while. I don't think posting on imageboards can become a hobby like how the paragraph implies where you post something whether you like it or not. At least I don't see myself turning it into a hobby…
>I'm only here really out of nostalgia and to gauge how far I've drifted from humanity.
I'm not really nostalgic about imageboards. I'm relatively new. I just started lurking on them again. The culture keeps me around. One day i'll become old enough to feel nostalgic about them.
This is a nice post. Thank you for sticking around.
I only really visit smaller offshoot imageboards like those on the webring nowadays. And even then, I rarely visit because I finally have the yearning to actually engage in my hobbies rather than scrolling through imageboards all day.>>6746
Are you referring to 4/jp/? I was actually looking for a new /jp/ (and /tech/) once 8chinz died but all the ones I've see are dead except for Nenpo. 4/jp/ isn't dead, but 4chan is cancerous and /jp/ on there isn't like how it used to be.
>>6642>are there any 'real' hiki servers or is it all a meme
Best bet is to disregard any "hikikomori" group chats/discords because they are either larps by kids who watched too much anime or they are filled with drama making autists and the last thing you want to do as someone who lives online is become known online. > it feels like lately being a hiki has caught on like a trend – I don't relate to a person who has been without a job for a month or out of school for the summer and calls themselves a hiki.
Hikikomori are unsocialized typically or hyper socialized but online only. Hikkidom friendships invites chaos from clashing individuality which has been allowed to grow freely in isolation.
Hopefully you can find some hikki to talk with anon as I have been one for extremely long myself and know what it is like to want to interact with people you can fit in with but we cannot fit in with people.
How much can we talk about being isolated? being NEET? Oneo f the only reasons hikki online can bond each other in a deeper way is similar cultural identity. We are hikikomori and when you have been shut in for too many years you stop even being able to relate to other hikikomori.
If you are some "incel" type you are very lucky in my opinion because you can relate to others and you WANT something in life but what about us schizoid like hikikomori who do not want anything and just exist? what is the point of recovery? I met a hikikomori who recovered IRL during therapy when I was trying to recover and he was happy he recovered because he wanted to be a normalfag.
What about the hikikomori who dont want anything?
I am trying to point out how useless this all is for some of us. You know how mentally unstable we hikikomori can be? some of us have learnt we cannot even make friends and if we do we will only feel worse as social = failure.
I can relate to others in the thread who are too far gone and see no point using the internet to talk with others.
something is wrong with us all in a serious way.
>>6567> Imageboards are probably dying because the new generations getting online care more about validation so need upvotes and reddit and normie social media is just the obvious choice so even if a kid gets onot imageboards they will still have learnt internet culture from cancerous normalfags.
I think this is the heart of the issue. Imageboards dont really innovate do they? The most fun I had on an IB in a long time (maybe ever) was on Chen2 (rip). And do you know why? Because it ran meguca. It was my first experience with liveboards and if you dont know what im talking about it will blow your mind.
Meguca is innovative. I've never seen live typing like that anywhere else, not even big corporate software or systems. If you want to live in the past and spend your time on a website that functionally is stuck in the mid-2000s thats cool, but dont be surprised when it isnt popular.
Not that innovation means you need upvotes or retweets, I agree those breed terrible conversation. But why would someone who hasnt had experience with imageboards stick around? If all they've known is flash and flair, a basic IB must seem very boring.
Not him but getting massively burned out on the state of the internet. I'm not going to delude myself that I will be able to leave, I've been online since forever to escape the real world because I've always hated it and I have always been completely incompatible with it. But now the internet feels the same as hanging out with normies and it's also inexorably tied with real life since everyone's connected all the time. There's no boundary between normie life and internet life. I have no idea where to go.
I want to meet other people who choose to be unplugged. I know there are many depressed NEETs out there but they're all heavily wired into the Zeitgeist. Even when I tried using weird obscure protocols that claimed to go back "to the roots" and reject the social media and big data atmosphere I have found the same oversocialized overwired people you can find everywhere else. It doesn't matter if you go on a hut in the middle of the forest if everyone's going to talk about what they just read on Twitter.
The internet has been my home for a long time, I can't leave it but I really wish I could.
You could try Lainchan.>>6785>oversocialized overwired people
I don't know why exactly, but for some reason people can't take it easy anymore. No jokes or fun allowed, no discussion allowed unless you just repeat the status quo. Normies just think you are either with "us" or against "us". Also, everyone seem to think that all sites are like Facebook or Reddit.
Oh hey, someone.
I am not a regular.>I don't know why exactly, but for some reason people can't take it easy anymore.
I had typed something along these lines. Everyone is really aggressive.
Part of me says that it's the times that made people so militant, the early 2000s were much more optimistic. And there are genuine sociopaths now who use the internet as a playground to further their own agenda.
I would be very happy if I could just have a little literature club where people are genuine and have no hidden malice. But most places feel like social media no matter how obscure.
And I'm so tired of being always anonymous. I don't want to hide anymore, at least some sort of identity.
I don't know if you play video games these days anon but I've found that old internet vibe in some games. Things have changed, it's not the same, but old source and goldsource games are still comfy for me. I found a populated spanish sven co-op server that felt like it hadn't changed in 20 years soundboards and all.
There is also a textboard that I can recommend: https://textboard.org/prog/
>>6642>are there any 'real' hiki servers or is it all a meme. it feels like lately being a hiki has caught on like a trend – I don't relate to a person who has been without a job for a month or out of school for the summer and calls themselves a hiki. not to be elitist, I just think I'd have more in common with somebody who has been struggling with the fact they are a hiki for several years…
I know that feel. I was in a hiki server and only a few people were actually hikis. Most were people who are out of college for a bit or people in school. I wouldnt say I haven been struggling with the fact I have nee hiki for almost 10 years. I dunno I just dont find it an issue or a problem. Maybe I'm just weird.>I saw a video about places in Japan where you can live with other shut-ins in a building but the catch being during the day time you have to spend time in the common room with everybody else boarding there.
I used to be in another hiki discord for a while. It had mostly hikis as it was rather small. I had to take a break from it cause it was too social for me. I cant handle social stuffs a lot I dunno why. It was a nice discord but I just had to take a break for a bit. Sadly when I came back the discord server vanished. Not sure what happened as I didnt get on discord for a month or two. I may talk a lot sometimes but most of the time I dont want to talk or just want to be alone. I dont think I could handle having to talk with people everyday. If I have to it just gives me a headache. I need like some alone time its weird I know but if I dont take a while and just be alone and not social I get headaches.
Find individuals through whatever means you want to online (Youtube, forums, games, etc.), add them on Discord, ask if they're in any servers. Then expand your circle with other people and join more relevant servers. That's what I do, at least.
I was going to make a joke about how you unfunny losers are just butthurt that no one laughs any more when you type "nigger" but then the 3rd poster literally just said that verbatim