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 No.6422

I do not mean on this site but in general where are all the losers hanging out online now because all the imageboards are very slow and any of the bigger platforms are suffocating by censoring controversial opinions driving discussion of those topics away yet where is everyone?

ver the past 5 years it is like nearly every hikikomori realized that online communities for losers were not worth the drama or they killed themselves.

 No.6428

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>>6422
I'm not sure calling people losers and asking where the losers are at is going to get you anywhere.

 No.6429

Most of us are on discord now and have found communities on there

 No.6430

haha yes now I can post this as my first post after seeing the "prototype" of 4chan

 No.6431

>Discord
>identity maintenance is now a prerequisite for backwater life
I always knew it would come to this… But so soon?

>>6430
the 2 always looked better imo

 No.6432

>>6422
I don't know. After hikki died I looked for other places, but every other place was already dead. Posted in a few of them but if no one is around there is no point in even checking them all that often.

>>6429
Discord is atrocious. I doubt that a lot of the people that were around before would use that garbage. Discussing anything is basically impossible in something like that.

 No.6435

>>6429
would you care to post some, or post where i might find some?

 No.6436

>>6428
Lets be real we are "lsoers" in the eyes of normalfags even if we do not want that lifestyle it is what it is and I call myself a loser and own it a bit like a black will call themselves a nigger I guess.

Discord is usually trash but good places do exist but there is always drama.

 No.6437

>>6431
I don't care about identities (let's be real, it's all pseudonyms anyway), but I do care that it's corporate trash. Why do I have to fill a Google captcha then give my phone number to some US/Chinese-owned proprietary website to just be able to talk to people online?

Worst of all is that almost everyone effectively left for Discord. Bullshit like this is almost going to make me get cured of my NEETism and force me to go outside.

 No.6440

>>6437
Adding to this, they could've at least gone to something like matrix. Fuck. I want to go back to 2005.

 No.6446

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>>6437
>give my phone number to some US/Chinese-owned proprietary website to just be able to talk to people online?
You dont have to do that for discord(pic rel). I never use anything that requires a phone number/cell phone(for various reasons). While I do agree discord is pretty shitty its the most active place but servers die so fast. I was in a few hikki/neet discord and all of them died out. Maybe thats just the way with people like us. I wish there was a more secure and anon thing we could use but there really isnt.

 No.6447

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>>6446
>shilling for pisscorp
>imageboards are too inactive
go back to 4chaim or twitter then. more activity has always resulted in garbage quality discussion that's flooded by attentionwhores and other various fridge temperature iq retards

 No.6448

>>6447
why don't you leave then faggot

 No.6449

>>6447
Where the fuck did I ever shill for it? I said it was shit in my post… All I was doing was showing that you didnt need a phone number why are you so but hurt?

 No.6450

/hikki/ on old 8chan was the most active place for hikkis a few years ago. Now aside from this place, I just don't know. The web is a shithole now and I avoid 99% of it like the plague. Chances are you have something more fulfilling to do with your time, like watch anime or play a simple videogame. If you must be on the Internet, there are plenty of neat little corners and alternative protocols, but they don't all center around being a loser. IRC, BBSes and Gopher all still exist. The Gemini protocol is relatively new and is growing by the day, serving a similar purpose and community as Gopher. The smol web is a thing, you know. I've found hours of entertainment just through this alone: https://wiby.me - it's a search engine that only shows results from small/non-corpo websites. The "Surprise Me" button takes you to some magical places. Usenet sucks - don't bother paying for it. Outside the Internet, you could buy a CB radio and talk to people on that…if you're comfortable with voice comms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QEWz-72bw

 No.6451

>>6435
Don't bother. EVERY single "hiki" discord I've found so far, about a dozen or so, including the uboachan one, is filled with people talking about uni and wageslavery. It's time to face facts, there isn't a pure hiki neet place anywhere online. Here also, there's probably one hiki for 5 unikids assuming it's mostly the same people from the discord server, which I think it is. If you're looking for a place to run away from the unitalk and the wagietalk, then discord is definitely not for you.
It's not only discord though. Years ago when Hikkichan still existed, they had a mirc channel and that place was also filled with unitalk. You just don't see it on imageboards as much because there are rules that will ban certain topics, so people just larp and don't out themselves as often.

The only hiki place is your bedroom. Face that fact and you'll be better off.

 No.6453

>>6450
>you could buy a CB radio and talk to people on that…if you're comfortable with voice comms.
I used to do this when I was a kid fun times. Not done it in years though.

 No.6454

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>>6450
Oh, another tech person, that's surprising. I haven't done much with the alternative protocols because I don't expect to find anything good anymore. After 8chan died, it seems like a lot of people lost all hope and disappeared from the internet, and that has happened to me to some extent as well. Anyway, I had a lot of fun with wiby too, and I occasionally recommended it in various places for a few years because I believe it deserves more attention from the right people.

Found many things that people wrote complaining about the absolute state of technology in the current year, and that was entertaining. It finds some interesting old websites too, so it has some of the appeal of Internet Archive. You can even find useful information sometimes depending on what you're looking for, because if you use a Unix system, you use something that is very old and that has been consistent for a long time, and some old pages can be helpful. Additionally, people writing anything of value tend to have simple websites that are more likely to be there.

 No.6455

>>6422
I've been lurking on tvch.moe

 No.6456

>>6446
Discord and pretty much all social media are pretty flag-happy in that the algorithm may think you're a bot and asks for your phone number so you can regain access to your account.

"Bot" behavior includes basic privacy actions like using a VPN, by the way.

 No.6457

>>6451
As a hikikimori I don't know why you're so surprised non-NEET people are as alienated as us "losers". Work sucks and school is a prison but not everyone lives in some social democracy where you can say fuck it and live off NEETbucks.

 No.6459

>>6457
As an anecdote I've been for a decade on some other textboard where we all were hikkiNEETs but now that we're older (around 30s) a big part of the community was forced to enter the workforce and get their surplus value extracted to make ends meet. It's depressing but we all got each other's backs despite being anonymous instead of being cunts over retarded identity bullshit.

 No.6469

>>6435
I've similarly been frustrated with not having any active neet community to spend time with.

I made my own hikkineet discord and there's a few of us who are active and watch anime together. I'm pretty much in vc 24/7 streaming my screen like the depraved hikki I am.

I'm hoping that eventually some depraved neets on the same caliber as myself join one day. The kinds living in squalor with layers of crust forming on their skin. I really don't know where those types hang out, as someone with no friends.

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 No.6470

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forgot to post the enticing img, this is a cute character from Unicorn Jelly an old forgotten web comic

 No.6471

>>6469
Take a shower

 No.6472

>>6469
Why would you want to stream your screen? Some sense of merging yourself with other people?

 No.6474

>>6469
Shit server.

 No.6476

>>6472
yeah, feel like I'm sharing experiences with ppl.
>>6474
are you in any better neet servers?

 No.6546

I'm not really attached to the Hikki identity and don't care what is or isn't 'real' Hikki but I used to care, and I think the mentality is understandable. People who feel they are Hikki want to hang with other Hikkis because they expect (reasonably) that most non-Hikkis will treat them with some mixture of bewilderment and contempt. Like anyone they want someone to relate to and they want to be treated with sympathy and understanding so shortlisting people by Hikki status is just a mechanism to find people who they expect will be more likely to fit this bill. In reality I think everyone in the world is unique so no matter how you define a group there will always be a lot of diversity in that group so a Hikki will still end up with a lot of different opinions, experiences, etc in their group and since they'll base their definition of true Hikki closely on themselves they'll find that most people don't qualify because like all human beings they are one of a kind.

There ARE too many people discussing their frequent outings and girlfriends on Hikki servers but at least for me I don't think that sorting by Hikkidom is all that potent as a mechanism for finding people I can get on with. Life is complicated and people take all sorts of different paths. There are non-Hikkis who will be sympathetic and understanding and there are Hikkis who have completely different reasons than you and who will berate your reasons and consider you a fake Hikki. Although it is impossibly difficult I think it is better to try to find people who accept you regardless of their background or position rather than finding people who are just in a vaguely similar position to you at one particular moment of their life.

 No.6547

>>6422
>where are all the losers hanging out online now
I don't know. The hiki's I knew were forced into work/have died/were saved by chance, such as a parasite/housewife relationship. Somehow all that 2012+ ideology madness missed me and I've been frozen in time since the early 00's, so I feel the world has gone a little mad in a way worse than my delusions about it as a kid.

As for me: I play one free MMO and try to keep to myself and stay healthy.

 No.6548

>>6546
>There are non-Hikkis who will be sympathetic
Yes, there are, but the amount of people that I ever really enjoyed talking to is so small that anything that improves the odds is worth it, especially that went from happening somewhat frequently to not happening at all. And most of them were hikkis because that's the level of social dysfunction that is expected from anyone psychologically compatible with me. But of course, even if someone like that stops being a hikki, that compatibility doesn't suddenly go away. Even if I stop being one and can manage to stay alive, it will be very close.

 No.6549

I was thinking about creating a fresh server for NEET people on discord, I know it's a pretty disliked platform but idk what else would be better besides maybe IRC. I just feel like those servers already exist although not specifically neet, I know there are NEETs on lainchan IRC and so on. Anyways I'm going to leave a link here because it seems like the perfect topic. There isn't going to be any mods or whatever and only 1 channel. I just want some hikki people to talk to.

CzwfJpBADZ

 No.6550

>>6470
Holy crap, I was re-reading that just the other day. It's really good outsider art.

 No.6551

>>6422
>ok everyone i have no friends
>friends go the fuck away
>wait where are my friends

 No.6552

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>>6549
Joined but it looks dead so I left. Would be nice if we could get more hikki neets but idk our social communication is pretty shit probably.

 No.6553

>>6552
Usually ends up being a dead server or non-hikki, you're most likely right, were just not great at opening up…

 No.6554

>>6553
Yea its pretty sad but I still have hope that there can be place for us to talk how ever unlikely that may be.

 No.6556

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>>6553
I should join, but talking to someone that I don't know at all in real time makes me nervous. It's just a terrible format it general. I don't see how people even use Discord. Either no one will be talking about anything, or if there are a few people talking, I won't want to disrupt. And if there are many people talking, then I will probably be ignored anyway. Imageboards are better, but they are all bad or dead. This one happens to be dead. Any fast one will tend to be bad. Having decent discussions in very fast threads is impossible, so posts lose all quality. Now I'm depressed again. I was feeling alright and now I feel terrible again. Great.

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>>6556
Panicked and left, as expected. I hate being alive.

 No.6562

>>6422
Like what >>6547 said all the losers went to /pol/ or to a tranny discord or both

 No.6563

I always thought imageboards were dying because NEETs and other "losers" (like myself) have gotten to the age that such a lifestyle is no longer sustainable. So they either killed themselves to avoid being homeless or joined the workforce. The brave few left embraced the life of a transient (kinda like myself).

 No.6565

>>6422
I come here sometimes, maybe once a month. The big chans are terrible, and the smaller ones (at least the ones I've found) are full of porn or other similar junk.
Unfortunately, discord and other discussion platforms are filled with normalfags or trannies, so it doesn't leave very many options.
I try to occupy myself with other things and consider occasions where I get to talk to nice people as highlights of the month.
Hope you'll find a place you like, just don't get too caught up in trying to find one.
>>6450
I spent all day just looking at stuff on that search engine, thanks for posting.

 No.6567

>>6447
I will challenge the idea that a community needs to be slow to be quality this is true to ap oint but have you never seen all the small slow imageboards and BBS that are just fulll of shitposts?

I think a sense of community is needed and up to a point it can be active as long as you have 3-5 people active at a time on a discord who are quality users the server can remain high quality and there are times where shitposting is fine but the users need to know that when a topic comes up worthy of discussion it is time to try make quality discussion.

As far as I see it with imageboards the problem starts at the top.
The admin needs to get the place known and remove people who do not fit in and this is a hard thing to do properly.

The idea that slow means good is bullshit because what determines good has nothing to do with being slow it just needs to be slow enough that someone can sit down and put effort into a post without it quickly dropping off the board or being ignored.
What matters more than something being slow is the quality of the community to start with.

>>6563
Imageboards are probably dying because the new generations getting online care more about validation so need upvotes and reddit and normie social media is just the obvious choice so even if a kid gets onot imageboards they will still have learnt internet culture from cancerous normalfags.

It takes too much effort to make any community online..

 No.6574

>>6422
imageboards suck because their format doesn't faciliate in depth discussion and long-form text from knowledgable and reputable people. That's why forums are better.

Most of the neet and hikki discord servers are dead because hardly anyone chats in them, or the moderator decides to delete the server

After how 8chan got banned by cloudflare so they lost their ddos protection, 8chan was stupid enough to publicly admit they were using epik hosting, so epik's upstream providers threatened to deny service unless 8chan was dropped. After that, webmasters view imageboards as "too hot to handle" for having politically correct opinions, so to attract mainstream advertisers like Disney and Coca Cola, they have to run different types of websites and go for the uplifting warm and fuzzy news that's designed to go viral, like Buzzfeed, Upworthy and Huffington post.

 No.6575

>>6574
spelling correction, I meant politically INcorrect opinions

 No.6580

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>>6574
>imageboards suck because their format doesn't faciliate in depth discussion and long-form text from knowledgable and reputable people
I disagree. I think imageboards can be great for that, not all that dissimilar from forums, and even better in many ways (like not having to create an account and be a new member and feel like an intruder, something that terrifies me, and then maintain a constant identity). The problem is that a lot of boards can be too fast for that. With the right relatively small group of people, it can be great, but the problem is that small imageboards tend to be too dead for that to happen. 8chan was actually good, and I only realized the extent of that after it was already gone. It wasn't fast, and was even slow depending on the board, but it was still just active enough to work. The ability to create new boards was another positive. If there isn't a good board for a specific niche, chances are someone will eventually make one, even if it takes multiple attempts. But now that's gone, and it seems like it wasn't replaced by anything and most people just disappeared.



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