No.4406
>>4405Have you tried this new thing, "agile development"? Maybe if you write a short story first and gauge its popularity you can make a good decision.
No.4409
>>4406It seems to be at cross purposes with the goal of my project. A large and complicated narrative with a disregard for the audience's sentiments, as well as a subtle drive to antagonize the reader whenever possible. I want them to fear for the characters they like, and brood over the ones I killed before they had a chance to like them.
The end user should not have any influence on the product. I can make it readable, I can even make it enjoyable and exciting, but I will make it a miserable read in other ways.
No.4410
>>4409This project is going to fail unless a miracle occurs
No.4411
>>4409>A large and complicated narrative with a disregard for the audience's sentiments, as well as a subtle drive to antagonize the reader whenever possible.That sounds really obnoxious and unreadable. It takes a highly skilled writer to both completely neglect giving readers what they want while still keeping their interest and attention. If you're trying to go for the Tokyo Ghoul or Game of Thrones effect, maybe try something more simple first?
No.4412
>>4411See, nothing in that whole "grimdark" family group ever really got to where I wanted it to go. Even GRRM disappointed me at times. I'm really struggling to mix aggression with appeal and a sense of rationality, I want to capture a GG Allin concert in prose fiction.
You're right about the skill level something like this will require. My voice as a writer has served me well so far, but worldbuilding and narrative structure, they have always fought with me. I've got the general storyline marked out start to finish, but the meat between the setpiece moments is going to be tricky.
Whatever happens, I'm not afraid of rewriting. I could keep this on the desk for ten years if need be.
No.4416
>>4413"It must have been a lonely place he lived in, because for every indulgence there was something else he denied himself as a means to the end. He accomplished what he did right here in our faces, in real time, with little help from any tool outside his own mind. These things cannot be denied. Could we have learned more from him if he was still around? Did we learn anything at all? Hope we meet again."
- Joe Coughlin, GG Allin biographer
I look at his concerts as more than a shocking punk show. The uncertainty, the fear, the schafenfreude, the sense of true freedom that permeated the hall for the duration of his performances. The audience and the bystanders were brought to the pinnacle of punk stage invasion. Who's going to run away? Who's going to be his victim? Who's going to riot? And why? It's a very metamodernist before metamodernism existed kind of experience.
Maybe I should try again. To see all the different kinds of rational people that enter an extreme situation, their reasons, and then watch how they behave once they're in the thick of it, this is what excites me. The danger and the negative thrill shape and flavor the experience, with the root of everything not being a catalyst or a demiurge, but still in the fight and making the waves that will drown it out.
The medium of live music has failed to capture the human experience this well, before and after GG's time. I see the same problem with prose fiction. Proust, GRRM, Trumbo, Mailer, Hill, Fitzgerald, Mann, they have had their successes, but they never even came close to what this medium can acheive. I'm done looking for someone to have done it right. Now I'm going to do it myself.
No.5645
>>5644>stripping the theory of stereotypes and common misconceptions associated with each typeWhat revolutionary improvements! And all this time everyone thought that adding more stereotypes and common misconceptions would make things better. Them ruskies really are smart, what will they invent next? Not banging head against the wall?
No.5647
>>4416>they never even came close to what this medium can acheiveYour entire post reeks off weird misconceptions and filling in misunderstandings with an expectation of violence and intuitiveness, which is a very abstract term for what you find vital in the concerts. You may call it situationist if you prefer the anarchist term.
You would be better off reading late Joyce if you wish for what the medium has to offer, or look at Bataille and his terrible stories.Even better: De Sade and Burroughs. I love Uncle Bill
Still, even if you did reading on them, even if you found benefit in studying them, you're still trying to turn stone into Coca Cola.
Literature, like architecture, is firm. It stays in its place and is dead and unchanging. Build to last. It's impossible to capture "The Human Experience" on paper out of the simple fact that we decay and prose doesn't. It's static. Unchanging unless you change it
Unlike music and your praised live performances. They are inherently unself aware since awareness would only lead to the recognition that they've passed and are closer to the end. Living is like listening to music in this sense and more appropiate for whatever message you care to pass along.
Best regards,
INTJ on cough syrup. I've been sick for three weeks
No.5657
ISTP/taurine for your data mining. Any good literature on edge cases wrt how the function stack works for them? I've been reading many blogs but nobody talks about where nuance creps in and it's driving me crazy how people seem to tend to making themselves into extremes in mbti forums and blogs.
No.5659
infp-t, infps should just get aborted, its not worth the mental health strain, fuck existence, fuck emotions
No.5743
mbti is not real
No.6076
>hikki
>extroverted
>no friends
Born to suffer.
No.6099
>>2367As primitive as Myers Briggs alone is to judge someone, and as fickle as judging by spectrums can be, if you're not INTP or ISTP or similar wreck'd tier personality you don't belong on an imageboard and are a normalfaggot invader.
>>2368>oooh a zodiac faggy thread>>I'm cancerPottery.
It's hilariously awful stuff it is and also data mining.
>>these bum zoomers and gen y's and x's, the ones with INTP and ISTP can't get jobs! Lets train our teachers and police to target them to see if abuse can force them to act differently! Also, market nothing they like! No.6106
INTJ every time. I'm not really the evil mastermind type. I think the INTJ descriptor fits me in terms of how I love to make mental models of the world, I love to (try to) understand things as deeply as possible, and to climb to greater heights of understanding. I don't think I'm that highly intelligent, but I certainly love thinking and being in my mind. This is a pretty terrible thing, though, for someone without much money who can't survive in society, because everyone and every thing around me is constantly working to crush my free time and ability to think and consider the world in equanimity and peace.
>>2368Pisces here (I see myself as 'high functioning' most of the time). I love dreams and fantasy, and I have huge problems with addiction to movies. I do think I am defined by 'empathy'. Most of the Cancer people I've met have been lovely. Their softness is the nicest aspect to them, but usually really bright and thoughtful, so they're not all mush. For some reason (despite what most pages\videos on compatibility say) the girls I like most are Geminis.
>>6099doomer Capricorn?
No.6107
Mbti only have sense if you research about the functions of each type, focusing just in the four letters is stupid
No.6109
>>2367INTP-T, Cancer.
Sometimes i just think that i'd better didn't born in this world. Too hard for me.
No.6207
I am surprised to see so many more Ps than Js.
No.6219
For the longest time, via the infinite knowledge of online self-tests, I was convinced that I was INTJ.
After taking a formal MBTI battery under the behest of my parents, I tested as being ISTJ. Having investigated the matter a bit further, with the most substantial being a thorough thumbing-through of Gifts Differing, I frankly agree with the prescription of Sensing over Intuititive cognitive preference. Also a Taurus for what it's worth.
No.6227
I get ENTJ a lot and occasionally INTJ
No.6228
I used to get INTP/INTJ when I used to do those tests.
No.6235
I can never be honest with these tests because I know the actions and the feelings I have right now are temporary. This is just a form of mine that can be better. It's not like DID its more like this form of me isn't a person I would want to present to other people because I'm not really being myself.
No.6236
>>2367I fear taking these kinds of tests because I'm afraid if I get a 'bad' result I'll obsess over it and limit my thinking because of some stupid test.
No.6244
>>6207makes sense. Ps are more likely to live in their own heads. Js like to influence the world.
No.6273
INFP. I used to be super into MBTI, but now it's kinda meh.
I do think it can provide insight though, and is probably one of the better pseudosciences.
No.6533
infj
No.6538
Forgot to attach a file, Jesus fucking kill me please. Anyways, just finished the test.
>>2368Aquarius
No.6573
INTP-t , Sagittarius
It does provide an interesting system to see how people think, especially myself.
No.6582
>>6573I'm INTP-t & Sagittarius as well
I don't normally believe in this stuff but its interesting that it seems there's a few of us
No.6584
ENTJ + Aquarius
No.6585
INFP - T, although I mainly use functions (Fi - Ne - Si - Te). Capricorn.
No.6586
>>6584 I wouldn't expect ENTJ on an imageboard.
No.6607
ISTP.
Borderline with ISFP but when compared to actual F's I'm nowhere near.
A practical personality that still fails to work
No.6611
>>6586We are out here just rare. I'm friendless now for whatever thats worth.
No.6837
Glad to see all the other INFPs, I love you all. Life sucks doesn't it?
No.6860
intp-t. typing is nonsense though, you will never get a solid result due to the inherent lack of a single, rigid personality in people. it can be even further complicated by psychological shit like multiplicity.
No.6880
>>2367INTP-A here. op's pic related pretty much sums up what everyday feels like.
when socialization and empathy doesn't happen automatically you really feel how little in common everyone has
No.7180
First year I took this test I think I got ISTJ or INTJ. For the next half-decade it was ISTP. Now that I take it again I got INTP (and INFP once that I tried not get to me because this is just a secular zodiac test). The amount of INFPs on imageboards or at least /hikki9kdoomerNEET/ boards explains a lot of the behavior I loathe. The more accurate way to know what type you are is to read the descriptions of the 8 or 10 categories, and be honest with yourself on who you are at the moment, the whole thing reminds me of the Deus Ex AI conversation..
>>3947>Wishes there was a war to kill people who have more feelings than him. Good reflexes help him dodge responsibility.That's me.
