Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 12:52:28 No. 7392
.flow is an ok game but the music makes me wanna shit my pants and answered prayers is the SHIT yo
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 12:52:55 No. 7393
FLUX had potential, cunts
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 16:16:24 No. 7394
>>7393 It HAS potential. FLUX was not cancelled.
Also someone please explain why Witoru and Phoenix Dream are so popular, I don't get it…
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 17:10:07 No. 7395
>>7394 Really? I thought Rindre cancelled it because of
>the thread I don't understand that either, some games are popular just because they are japanese, others who knows…
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 17:14:21 No. 7396
merula was very interesting, but the autist author suspended it
Toro 03/21/13 (Thu) 20:28:11 No. 7399
>>7394 >Also someone please explain why Witoru and Phoenix Dream are so popular, I don't get it… Witoru and Phoenix Dream are parody kind of Yume Nikki Fangames, but they actually have plot and aren't that bad (They aren't flat-out parody like Dickme Dicki but they poke fun at the common tropes in YNFGS? Also kinda just a big mish-mash of stuff I guess)
…also partly because Witoru was part of the "First batch" of YNFGS out there I think,… Yon Goh being the first male dreamer, and Witoru being the first game with actual dialogue, plot, puzzles, even a part with an actual rpg ect. (the music isn't too bad either imo)
Its not nearly as popular on the western side, probably because of the language barrier, but yeah (this isn't the best comparison but it was kinda the Eastern TLG i guess… but more of a parody?? heck I'm not even sure myself…)
Phoenix Dream isn't as popular but it could being going off how its almost a Witoru spin off due to how close the MCs look and the gameplay ect?
and yeah unpopular opinions:
I guess I really don't understand how .flow, Yume Nisshi, Fleshchild + The Looking Glass are so popular? Or why people say .flow is so scary or w/e… idk. I don't personally see the appeal in those bigger fangame titles but yeah…. (Nisshi had some interesting motifs(?) and effects but that was canceled so…)
Also I think If had potential, some areas were pretty neat like the UFO rides and the whole "magic portal behind your bookcase" thing.
…heck there are quite a few games that I'd like to see more of/have potential but they seem unlikely to update anytime soon or at all… (Answered Prayers,Yume Graffiti Ultra Violet ect.)
Toro 03/21/13 (Thu) 21:37:07 No. 7401
>>7400 !!! idk if your being serious or not but hahahhaha ooh man…
I don't know if anyone remembers this but I did try to make one about a year(?) ago but it was really shitty and embarrassing.. (the thread itself is pretty painful to look at jfc)…
…anyway back on topic:
people go on about "original graphics!1!" and dissin on mado recolors…and while its nice and all to have a unique sprite if you can pull it off… I really don't mind mado recolors as long as they are done well, and now I find that having a protag with a unique and interesting design without being too much or too little is more interesting that a "unique sprite" in some cases…
I guess another "unpopular opinion" is that I think Debris is a pretty dang good fangame, and I personally think it should be up there with the bigger titles like nisshi and lcddem at least… but it seems to be kinda obscure on the western side… I'm probably biased though haha… (It does have some major flaws like the starting worlds being way too big than they really need to be which is a big turn off for new players I think… but after a while you kinda get used to the navigation, and it gets pretty easy to go where you want…but it really shouldn't be like that in the first place. Also the mix of meh and good music, most places it can be just kind of there, only a few tracks were really "memorable" imo like the underwater one i guess…)
One more thing about fangames is that I don't mind if a game sticks pretty solid to the "formula", as long as it has plenty of interesting events, graphics, and at least a decent soundtrack. (Ex. Debris, Answered Prayers, Yume Graffiti, Ultra Violet)
im not even sure if these are "unpopular opinions" haha whoops
please? Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 21:52:06 No. 7402
>>7401 I was serious, I didn't know, it would be interesting to see :V
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 22:00:18 No. 7403
>>7401 .flow had a mado recolor
Never played Debris, I think I'll try it later
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 22:05:27 No. 7404
>>7399 Ohh now I see…
Also yeah, I don't think .flow is that scary either. The scary thing about .flow is the context. However you expect it to be creepy all the time due to all the blood, rust, the coldness in most areas… the cute, light or cheery areas are relatively few and most of these have a darker version that makes them lose their initial cuteness.
Toro 03/21/13 (Thu) 22:31:26 No. 7405
>>7404 aaaa/// you are very kind haha maybe someday I'll release some sort of game (probs would be exactly what i and most people dislike in fangames tho haha…)
>>7403 yes. i think i am pretty sure .flow had a mado recolor. -but I mean more like new devs/people making ynfgs everyone seems to be going about making original graphics now, which can be nice, but eh… I don't know…theres something charming about the Mado-like sprites (most of the time) and yeah I think the actual character design can be more interesting in some cases (ex I find Yomika, Tatsuki, Lefia, and Sometsuki's designs to be pretty well-thought out imo? idk mang having a memorable character design is not an easy task…
And about Debris,if you can wait, I actually finished translating it, I plan on releasing the English translated version of Debris tomorrow actually (Its probably not the most accurate translation, but its mostly for navigating the menus and such anyway) There's just a few tweaks and tests I want to make before releasing it so if ya want, you might want to wait a bit before playing it. (Saves SHOULD transfer but… yeah)
>>7402 Yeah the whole "rust disease" thing I guess??? but yeah I don't really like it when people suggest .flow with something like "OMFG THIS GAME IS SO SCARY!11! D:"…because yeah… like you said hhh…. its def considered the "darker/darkest" fangame too… that a lot of fangames tend to try and replicate I guess? Heck idk….
Anonymous 03/21/13 (Thu) 23:01:30 No. 7406
>>7405 ah, yeah I'll wait for the translated version of Debris better, thanks Toro
Anonymous 03/22/13 (Fri) 19:28:01 No. 7410
>>7409 maybe, but the author is a fucking idiot
Anonymous 03/22/13 (Fri) 19:30:06 No. 7411
>>7410 I really can't argue with that.
Anonymous 03/24/13 (Sun) 06:44:36 No. 7418
>>7409 Nisshi is a mediocre game with nothing to really do, and it's only cold because of the locations that feel sterile and hollow.
Rindre !bl6ZE9uvAk 03/24/13 (Sun) 20:27:41 No. 7419
>>7394 hi
it's not cancelled
wait a bit yo it's coming
bye
Anonymous 03/24/13 (Sun) 22:55:11 No. 7420
>>7418 That's because you're too impatient. If you can't handle the game at its worst, you don't deserve it at its best.
>>7419 What do you mean?
Anonymous 03/24/13 (Sun) 23:33:52 No. 7421
>>7420 She's talking about the shitstorm, it's coming
Anonymous 03/25/13 (Mon) 08:24:22 No. 7423
>>7420 I don't have the patience to play through the most bad parts to get to the least bad ones. Are there any? I don't think so, having searched every fucking empty nook and cranny of that barren mediocre game of an arrogant Japanese faggot who won't even let people download it. It's so bad, it's bad even on meta level. Damn.
Best fangame was Kudaranu Mousou No, or whatever it was really called. Too bad it got called back.
Anonymous 03/25/13 (Mon) 12:45:31 No. 7424
>>7423 I don't think it was that bad it's actually better than the standard fangame, however, I think it's more overrated than justin bieber because is japanese and 2deep4u.
Anonymous 03/25/13 (Mon) 15:59:38 No. 7426
>>7419 Rindre pls more info
Anonymous 03/26/13 (Tue) 10:17:55 No. 7432
>>7431 That's actually pretty lame. Come back when you have taste.
Anonymous 03/31/13 (Sun) 21:19:12 No. 7489
.flow is too dark, to the point where all areas feel the same. At least Yume Nikki and 2kki had some variation.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:07:13 No. 7508
I think .flow is just a really poorly made fangame.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:12:27 No. 7509
The Looking Glass is kind of bad. I'd walk into doors from the Nexus, look at the location, and go back into the Nexus because they all looked so awfully boring. Also, the music was really bad. Whoever made it, I remember reading that she didn't actually make the music but had some guy compose it for her, and hoooo boy you made a mistake getting that guy to make the music for you, because let's face it, that music was so boring and awful.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:14:09 No. 7510
>>7508 >hurr durr all games with dark atmosphere are le dark and le edgy am i 4chan yet guise olololo le troll Fuck off.
elitist++ Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:22:07 No. 7511
>>7509 >If your music or art can't hold a candle to Yume 2kki or LcdDem >to Yume 2kki or LcdDem Dude…, first off, 2kki is a cooperative game, which means it is not one person who does ALL the work. For LcDDem, I agree. Good music, one person.
But that of 'If your fangame doesn't fits like THE BEST ONES WE KNOW then fuckk off and don't try'….
Seriously? Then fuck off everything but 2kki and LcD… fuck off this board, fuck off this chan…
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:30:04 No. 7512
>>7510 >le dark >le edgy Good.
Compelling argument.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:33:24 No. 7514
>>7510 Are you fucking retarded? That's exactly what all the .flow dick-sucking faggots think. That it's edgy as shit because it has a dark atmosphere. Good job supporting my argument, preteen.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:35:47 No. 7515
Guys guys ubuu is about love
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:37:55 No. 7516
>>7513 I guess you also have to be a master chef to be able to say someone's food made you gag and throw up, yes?
>>7511 >stop not liking what I like! Do you know why nothing has been able to compare to Yume 2kki and LcdDem and perhaps a few others I haven't played yet, yet? Because people don't put their all into it.
This is an unpopular fangames opinions thread. That's what I posted. An unpopular opinion. The popular opinion on this board seems to be "it's ok to make fangames with poor-quality music rendered on my pirated copy of ProTools with absolutely 0 knowledge of music composition and music theory because my lil 13 year old weebz will support me on the interwebz! xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"
What good's a job if you don't put your all into it?
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:39:43 No. 7517
>>7516 Chill your ass already
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:43:19 No. 7519
>>7516 Although sometimes people put their all into it and it's still not good. It also has to do with skill, I think..and planning.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:46:56 No. 7520
>>7518 Are you having a bad day or something?
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 19:49:15 No. 7521
>>7519 You're absolutely right, but I don't think there's an excuse for composing an OST made entirely of songs marked with dissonant piano key strikes (and not much else), Mario Paint-tier 8-bit type loops, and just overall shit music.
Yeah, everyone has different tastes, but it doesn't take a Berklee composition major to hear that a lazy song is a lazy song.
If you can't compose for fucking crap, if you can't make a song for your life, ask someone skillful to help you, make something atmospheric and/or ambient sounding (a simple ambient song that is pleasant sounding is not beyond even the biggest simpleton) or just for fuck's sake use existing songs. Unless I'm mistaken, Owl, who made Miserere, got his OST off of a site of unlicensed music, or music that lost its license (something like that.) And you know what – it sounds great.
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 20:01:48 No. 7522
>>7521 Maybe, but the character looks like a dildo with limbs
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 20:03:17 No. 7523
>>7522 I've heard that from you in a different thread, and it wasn't really funny the first time, but if he looks like a dildo with limbs then what does Madotsuki and all her recolors look like to you?
Anonymous 04/01/13 (Mon) 20:05:58 No. 7525
>>7522 Have you ever seen a dildo or a penis in real life, then? Oh, I guess not.
M-256 04/01/13 (Mon) 20:18:15 No. 7527
>>7508 I agree that it is pretty overrated.
Also most of the characters doesn't seem very much marking or very interesting-looking.
Anonymous 04/02/13 (Tue) 10:59:20 No. 7549
>>7509 TLG was their first attempt at making a fangame I can find on ubuu (at least they first showed up on ubuu with it) so being so harsh might not be warranted. I agree that a lot of things in there are poor in every category, but I think that's to be expected. Tons of fangames began as shoddy messes like that too, but if we have people like you going around saying new games shouldn't be made unless the creators are both artistic and musical geniuses, then we wouldn't have any fangames at all.
These people are making and handing out their games for free, too, so I don't get why some people on ubuu get so anal about them.
Anonymous 04/03/13 (Wed) 11:29:46 No. 7559
>>7508 i lose sleep over .flow
just because you're too "Hardened." to be scared anymore doesn't mean no one is.
Anonymous 04/03/13 (Wed) 13:47:21 No. 7565
>>7563 >>7560 tfw schizoaffective disorder and hear the kaibutsu giggle when you think about .flow for a while and can't stop looking over your shoulder when you see a reflection from your monitor until you turn around and swear you see something horrific (usually gore related, nothing obscure) before your vision fades and you wake up on your floor with a bloody nose screaming wondering where you are until you remember and you cry alone in your room like you usually do because your friends find it too tiresome to be friends with you and your family has their own lives to deal with.
but that's kind of different than the average .flow player so I can see why you two are confused.
Anonymous 04/03/13 (Wed) 13:57:19 No. 7566
>>7565 sorry for posting without explaining my condition, i thought it would be obvious
Anonymous 04/05/13 (Fri) 18:22:26 No. 7582
>>7559 Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with you?
This board should be restricted to 18+ just like many other boards. Not like that would stop you little babbies from coming here anyway.
I guess you also shit your pants at hard 'n' edgy anime like Death Note too right?
Chesir 04/05/13 (Fri) 18:25:44 No. 7583
>>7582 Actually…
Anonymous 04/05/13 (Fri) 18:30:04 No. 7584
>>7581 I get it. I felt the same way at first.
LcdDem really was lovely, absolutely, but when I first played it I felt that many of the areas were "half-assed" or weren't very.. hm.. how should I say.. they weren't very dream-like and they didn't have a unifying theme.
I thought so many places in YN and Y2 had said unifying themes, such as
>The Docks >Lake in the Dense Woods >Number World >Highway >Monochrome Feudal Japan >Farm World >Laboratory >Atlantis >1,000,000 of the other fucking beautiful YN worlds however, in LcdDem, so many of the areas were a little lacking, like that world with the pink boxes or whatever, that purple world with the sponge shit, etc.
However. HOWEVER. The music in LcdDem fucking blew my mind (Sewers, Sewers Room, Hexagon World, Helmet Effect World, Mining Complex, Sandy Swamp World, Rainbow Tiles World) and some of the worlds were BEAUTIFUL and I felt that they were the ones missing from YN, such as the Rice Field, the Stained Glass World, Garden World, and many others.
Anonymous 04/05/13 (Fri) 18:34:18 No. 7585
>>7583 Should've checked the rules before posting, I knew it. However, there's an age thread floating around somewhere here and most of everyone there were little babbies, one girl said she was 12.
Also, the excessive use of le maymays and xDDDDDD and "this game mindfucked me omg can't sleep xD" here is yet more proof that this place is bloated with Hot Topic-frequenting preteens.
Chesir 04/05/13 (Fri) 18:50:15 No. 7586
>>7584 I agree with that about the music and the worlds; but playing it through was like a 'heavy reading', if you understand the concept. I felt it was somehow vague and lonely; cute, with a huge ton of effort that can be seen really easily. But somehow made me feel there was something that was missing.
Beware, I appreciate the game; but, I don't know. Something was missing, making my game experience a bit…flawed.
Anonymous 04/05/13 (Fri) 19:04:31 No. 7588
>>7582 Did you miss
>>7565 ?
lrn2read, friend
Jojogape 04/07/13 (Sun) 14:23:25 No. 7593
>>7590 That screenshot looks very sexy <3 Where is it from?
Also you'll need Applocale for Chinese fangames, but it's still in Chinese… I wish Shirleycrow would translate them to English…
Jojogape 04/08/13 (Mon) 12:54:33 No. 7601
>>7594 It doesn't look like it's from 2k3, but maybe I should check it out…
M-256 04/08/13 (Mon) 13:05:35 No. 7602
>>7601 It is not.
It is on the RPG Maker XP.
Anonymous 04/12/13 (Fri) 02:17:09 No. 7657
>>7597 So that's why people seem to have held a grudge on Yume Nisshi for all this time…
Anonymous 04/12/13 (Fri) 02:55:27 No. 7658
>>7657 yes the author is a faggod
Anonymous 04/17/13 (Wed) 18:33:35 No. 7690
>>7431 Zenmaigahara's map designs are absolute shit, in both Yume Nisshi and Yume 2kki.
SomeScout 04/18/13 (Thu) 16:42:34 No. 7693
>>7658 That's a shame.
I was rather fond of Yume Nisshi…
Anonymous 04/26/13 (Fri) 22:07:18 No. 7714
I find fan games in general to be redundant. Don't get me wrong, i loved my first playthrough of yume nikki. It's just that aimlessly wandering around is only fun for so long.
Anonymous 04/28/13 (Sun) 07:09:59 No. 7715
>>7508 i agreed with you until the last two points, then you suddenly went full retard, you are criticizing a game that is intended to be dark and visceral for being so, you are completely missing the point of the game, and i don't mean it in a "2deep4u" way, its like if you were criticizing a children's cartoon for "trying too hard" to be cute
Anonymous 05/02/13 (Thu) 06:02:51 No. 7730
In retrospect, .flow isn't actually very good. It's not even scary, really.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 08:34:38 No. 8620
.flow was okay, but I liked "Me" much more as a dark and edgy fangame. :P
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 08:47:11 No. 8621
>>8620 Isn't 'Me' just a shitty rip-off with actually plagiarized material? .flow is so much more well-made it's ridiculous.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 08:55:56 No. 8623
>>7715 The only good point in that mess of a post was the one about the rainbow maze backgrounds. Everything else was this /v/-reject spouting their opinions as fact.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 09:01:20 No. 8624
While I don't agree with any of the dumb whining about .flow in this thread, I do feel it isn't better than Yume Nikki and I hate when people say hat. In fact, .flow would actually be a looooooooooot better if it wasn't a fangame at all, but had a more concrete, obvious storyline. The format is holding it back.
M-256 10/29/13 (Tue) 10:53:42 No. 8625
>>8621 Not anymore.
Also I feel a bit dissapointed whenever someone doesn't do well enough on a fangame. Like, when they actually just think that it is a fangame, and it doesn't really matter. Though it is closer to spin-off/different game in a genre than an actual fangame.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 11:11:48 No. 8626
>>8625 Well, I suppose I could give 'Me' another chance then.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 12:42:01 No. 8627
>>8626 I don't really know about the remake, since I only played the old version… But I really loved Me.
It did a better job than .flow in being creepy and dark, and some locations and effects were really memorable. People will go on about the shitty audio quality and the not-so-stellar art, but I really enjoyed playing it. And I guess the remake fixed this.
Damn, I'm trying to decide if it's worth downloading even though it's almost the same!
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 13:00:33 No. 8628
>>8627 I looked up some screenshots of Me and by god it's fucking hideous.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 13:36:09 No. 8629
>>8628 Yeah, can't disagree. If you want graphics like .flow or 2kki, you'll regret even downloading it.
Still, the remake seems a lot better. Pic related.
Anonymous 10/29/13 (Tue) 14:06:08 No. 8630
>>8629 Look I don't want to be mean to M-256, but man graphics are pretty much the whole point of these games. She really needs to learn some color theory and use more muted colors and shading in her work, everything clashes so horribly and looks like some pastel-goth crap from tumblr.
If you need an example of pastel colors that look good, try Gingiva.
Owl 10/29/13 (Tue) 15:42:33 No. 8631
>>7396 That would be me, I guess.
If it's any consolation I started on Miserere instead, which I finished.
Anonymous 10/30/13 (Wed) 03:59:05 No. 8637
>>8630 Music is more important IMO. It creates atmosphere.
canta 11/03/13 (Sun) 02:30:51 No. 8649
so then is liking .flow an unpopular opinion yet then because i honestly love the game itself.
it's just that there's a "fandom" now. and they suck eggs and tend to ruin things for everyone as fandoms do. however, re
>>7508 (and their posts following) i DO have yet to see any of them start spouting off scene-slang-circa-2007. so at least they have that under control.
Anonymous 11/03/13 (Sun) 02:41:09 No. 8650
I thought Gnosis was alright.
Anonymous 11/03/13 (Sun) 02:49:51 No. 8651
>>8650 What do you say? Gnosis is pretty cool, and the guy's art is nice. Moreover, he's not an attention whore whining for attention and posting his game around all the web while sucking another devs cock for reviews or posting here on uboachan, contrary to most of people.
Anonymous 11/03/13 (Sun) 03:11:20 No. 8652
>>8651 So, it IS an enjoyed game?
Well, I guess I should just quit Ubuu then for such a marginal error.
Anonymous 11/03/13 (Sun) 03:14:11 No. 8653
>>8652 I don't even know why you considered it as if ubuu hated that game, because here no one even talks about it. I personally like it, and there will be different opinions, but seriously, I can't see why you came up to that conclusion.
Anonymous 11/04/13 (Mon) 19:24:20 No. 8663
I knew Gnosis because I have the guy as a friend on deviantart, and I gave y support, and told him that it's pretty well done.