No.9221
I'll always have a soft spot for Yume Nikki. Yume Nikki and Uboachan literally changed my life multiple times. Things would have been very different for me. And of course it had a huge and lasting impact on my sense of aesthetic and the kinds of stories I enjoy. Sometimes I still boot it up to show to friends.
No.9222
>>9218I still like YN, it never really left me since playing it in 2008. I have also quietly collected people's self published works and handmade things for a while.
No.9224
> fatalists who live off by their synthetic drugs
Is there something wrong with them?
No.9225
>>9218>What should be done about the current zoomer problem this fandom has?That happens everywhere, it's not just this game's fanbase, and what to do about it? Nothing, it's just strangers posting cringe on the internet, just ignore and move on, the Yume Nikki&fangames thing stopped being an obscure niche a very long time ago.
>>9224>Is there something wrong with them?Quite a lot, these things are very dangerous in hands of stupid people and we're talking about teenagers here. The world is a fucked up place with people who give terrible advice to kids.
No.9229
>>9218i know what you mean. the zoomers that listen to bladee and ecco2k, draw/retweet "dark but ironic" anime images, and type like irony is the only thing their brain is capable of spewing. they're annoying as fuck and only into yume nikki because wacky anime drug aesthetic. they'll fuck off eventually once their shit is out of style in a few years, but for now i just grin and bear it
No.9230
>>9218It's really hard to find dedicated fans in these types of games. I remember seeing art of drugged out mado long before I knew what Yume Nikki was, and I just thought it was edgy for the sake of edginess. Sadly, it still holds true.
Thankfully I don't see those edgy kids too often. On twitter, it's usually just people posting yn art and people replying "wow ur based"
Shit, I remember being in an edgy phase in early middle school. I can't bear to think about how fuck-off stupid I was. Thankfully by eighth grade I changed for the better. I'll be like that for those teen edgelords too. They'll appreciate the game for what it really is, or discover it isn't for them. Just distance yourself from them, and talk with the fans than actually like the game.
No.9270
>>9269I think that would fit better in Off-Topic /ot/ or Other Games /og/, but Yeah I heard of it! It's a fun game once you get the hang of it. I listen to the soundtrack every so often too.
That's all I'm going to say about this on /yn/ tho…
No.9272
>>9218>ironic fans who laugh at others who look too deeply into things.There is nothing wrong with that, people can have their own interpretations of the game, I for one don't think Mado is mentally ill at all and I think she wasn't raped either
No.9283
my first experience playing it will never leave me.
No.9286
>>9218what the fuck? i barely entered in this board and all i see is dead posts, people who try to revive this and this post. you all look like sad young man being nostalgic about their lifes. kys
(NEAT) No.9290
>>9286Welcome, Please try to be nice.
No.9303
>>9287fuck you. at least let this be dead rather than being the milenial dumphole i'm seeing now
No.9304
>>9296i don't know who are you talking about
No.9305
>>9303You know you can like, close the tab, right zoomer kun?
I don't know what makes you go out of your way to bother visiting this board and posting here when you con't like it, there's lots of websites fit for zoomers, maybe try tiktok.
No.9307
>>9304>>9303>u-u-uhh fuck you abloo ablooWhere do you think you are, underage tourist? Go back right now.
>>>/r/eddit>>>/s/hitholeyoucrawledoutofAnd stay there.
No.9433
>>9218No idea, I always enjoyed Yume Nikki and it inspired me in a lot of different ways, I guess I'm not just a part of the "fandom" because… I don't know, never bothered I guess? So I'm capable of completely enjoying it for what it is, and not foam at the mouth at the same time.
No.9437
>>9218Every fandom has toxic/undesirable people, doesn't matter the generation. I suppose I am happy that YN is still reaching more people and not totally fading away.
No.9438
yume nikki fans =/= earthbound-copy fans
No.9439
>>9438Yume Nikki has an entire world based/inspired around Mother 1 There is a lot of overlap with the Mother/Mother-Like/YN fanbase.. and for good reason; they're awesome.
No.9441
Now I'm imagining an alternate timeline where KIKIYAMA didn't play Earthbound, but did play a Build-engine game, like maybe Blood, so YN ended up being 3D with, like, voxel playermodels and stuff. Really heavy reliance on room-over-room shenanigans and, like, doors that load you somewhere else.
Of course, that's not as interesting as the one where they played Strife and decided to make the whole thing in the Doom engine.
No.9443
>Anyone else here still has a soft spot for YN, even if you haven't played it in forever?
Are you implying that art loses its power over time? Or that YN is not art and just a fad? Because as far as I am concerned I will always enjoy this game because it is good. Why would age or time away change that?
No.9475
>>9443This. The whole point of enjoying things like YN is that they leave a lasting impression.
Anyone who drops off because it's not current or popular is just a trendhopper.
No.9478
Zoomers call me a millennial, and millennials call me a zoomer. Tfw neither group wants me
No.9498
>>9480Please, define exactly what is "getting the game wrong" and how it should be "understood" based on your personal opinion.
No.9502
>>9498Ok, "getting the game wrong" was a bad way to say it. I think "wrong expectations" is what I was trying to say.
Anyways, I think some people (especially those aesthetic kids and and people on YouTube) exaggerate how Dark and Fucked Up this game really is. I mean, don't get me wrong, it does have some graphic imagery but not to the point where it's shocking. I can't exactly blame people for being disappointed that YN isn't the super disturbing game they were expecting, but it sucks to see them brush it off as some dumb walking simulator because of that. Or maybe I'm just a desensitized dumb fuck, I don't know. As for what it's really about, well, that's up to you.
No.9520
>>9498I think they honestly made a valid point even without going too into detail what they could really have meant. that hostility(?) was uncalled for, there's definitely a sort of shock culture that's "ruined" a lot of cool horror interests for original fans as gatekeepy as might sound.
>>9218other people have already summed it up pretty well. there isn't really much to do other than to wait I guess. you can still enjoy the game, fangames, and the fanart all you like though. the game's become a sort of non-committed interest where I'll check in every year(s), and that on its own feels nice. personally my only regret is being too shy to do anything other than lurk constantly instead of participating in the communities over the years, especially when it was easier to find fans that cared more about the game outside of keeping in with internet/glitch/animecore aesthetics or whatever.
No.9527
>>9521with the zoomers, shitposters and weirdcore kids I hope the fandom dies out to a small handful of people instead of actually getting bigger, making yn seem like more of a "trend game" than [insert what you perceive game as]
do you remember undertale at it's prime? how shitty that was, because of purely how many people liked it? yeah, hoping that doesn't come to our gem.
No.9732
I'm sure people will laugh at me and call me a boomer or something for this but the modern fanbase for Yume Nikki and its fangames genuinely upsets me. If you go to a site like this, sure, you can talk with other "real" fans. But on Twitter, Reddit, and other big social media sites, the fandom is limited to troons and teenagers who make shitty lolsorandumb memes about the games and have no appreciation for them outside of them fitting their stupid "niche 2000s japanese stuff" aesthetic. This is a big problem with most fanbases now, really. Nobody enjoys things in a non-memetic way anymore. Media is only consumed for memetic and aesthetic purposes. Teenagers now have a bizarre feeling of bastardized nostalgia for things they never experienced. You can see this with games like Friday Night Funkin. The game tries to pay homage to both 90s rhythm games and 2000s Newgrounds games, and to anyone actually familiar with either of those things, it miserably fails at both. However, to kids who are unfamiliar with them, FNF fills the "niche interest" void perfectly and in discovering all the classic Newgrounds games and such they develop a warped sense of nostalgia for flash games that came out while they were still just sperm. Not sure if this is gonna make sense to anyone else. I'm just sad at the state of things nowadays. Indie games aren't fun and creative like Yume Nikki anymore. They're just lame and inaccurate pastiches of things that came before. The centralization of the internet has irreparably ruined online culture. I want to go back. I want to be able to make friends online again. I want to talk about Yume Nikki with people who aren't 15 years old and "bigender."
No.9733
>>9732Memes were a mistake.
No.9734
>>9733Especially the JoJo faggots forcing their stupid unfunny inside jokes into every other fanbase and looking like a complete obnoxious retard to anyone who's not a JoJo fan.
No.9735
>>9734Its not our fault Jojo references are everywhere, sometimes purposefully and sometimes coincidentally.
https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_cultural_references_and_inspirations_from_JoJo%27s_Bizarre_AdventureAnd lets be real, that is nowhere near a complete list.
No.9737
>>9732>They're just lame and inaccurate pastiches of things that came before. to be fair, the Famicom World exists
No.9740
>>9732>Teenagers now have a bizarre feeling of bastardized nostalgia for things they never experienced.Agree, lo-fi, vaporwave, early 2000's aesthetic and all that shit have their génesis in nostalgia. Maybe that shows how Bad modern entertainment has become that people have the need to remember an idealized past and the melancholy of growing up and soon facing adulthood.
No.9741
>>9737That's true, but we don't know how old Kikiyama is. He could be old enough to have been a child or a teen when the Famicom was released.
No.9752
I feel like a lot of modern Yume Nikki fans use it to signal their aesthetic rather than actually appreciating it. You see this with a lot of stuff, from Lain to tkmiz to Evangelion etc.
>>9741And when do you think the Friday Night Funkin' devs grew up lol
No.9756
>>9732Unironically agree. Seems that to younger people, their interests are usually purely for vanity purposes, to put on a face of being unique and cool, rather than the art genuinely meaning something to them. I'm a zoomer myself but I get exactly what you're saying in terms of new "fans" coming in.
I think gatekeeping is a good thing when it ensures people genuinely enjoy the media and understand it, rather than take it superficially as some sort of accessory for their personalities.
No.9771
Hey i'm fairly new to these boards so i'm sorry if I get anything wrong. Could someone explain what they meant by "fatalists who live off by their synthetic drugs"? Thanks.
No.9772
>>9771Depressed weebs with drug addictions, I think.
No.9773
>>9771Yume Nikki has always attracted a large amount of recreational drug users, particularly those who use synthetic ones, aka ones you can't grow or cultivate in nature. Especially hallucinogenic or dissociative ones. Drug addiction and usage rates also tend to be higher with hikikomori and NEET populations, both because of prior mental illness and because of the isolated nature of the lifestyle, as well as individual factors. It's just the nature of the beast and it probably isn't an individual, generational fandom thing, but obviously the phenomenon manifests differently with each successive wave of YN fans.
Man, I feel old.
No.9776
thats some k mentality shit tbh. i'm happy the more exposure the game gets.
No.9777
>>9218i feel the same way, this isn't exclusively about yume nikki but sometimes i see zoomers who are into other niche-ish things i like and i get so excited to talk to them about it. and the moment i finally do try to talk about it they admit to knowing totally nothing about it except for it just looking cool. overall just the state of users all over the internet has just declined, its hard just to have a good conversation anyway. doesnt help these people infest everywhere.
No.9778
I think people confuse the general population for 'younger people/zoomers'
I think that most people were always like this, and most 'normies' for a lack of a better term always had mainly vanity-centric interests in things.
The only reason people are confusing that with younger people is that the internet is simply the easiest it's ever been to participate in, and that results in more normies using the internet, resulting in the current generation having the most access to the internet than any prior generation before, resulting in the confusion that its 'young people' that are the issue in fandoms rather than just normies/ironic fans.
No.9780
>>9777Its become popular to have a niche interest, but as usual for normies they can only engage at the most surface level
No.9794
There aren't any problems with the "fanbase", only you OP. Let people interpret and enjoy things how they'd like instead of trying to impose your shitty thoughts onto everyone. This entire thread is pretty sad and pathetic with the amount of people unironically supporting gatekeeping and whining about teenagers.
Just to be clear, I played the game mostly blind when I had launched it for the first time, and I consider it to be one of the most fascinating, impactful games I've ever played. Teenagers on whatever boogeyman site(s) you're thinking of aren't going to change my perception of the game and my experiences.
No.9795
>>9794honestly this is a good opinion to have in a world where nothing is safe from terrible fans, I wish I could adopt it but I still find some gatekeeping necessary
No.9796
>>9794I agree with you.
I also feel empathy for the OP and like minded people as well. Change is hard to watch sometimes. I believe that this current hype will fade soon enough, like most things do. I don't think it's all a bad though, I think we all want YN to live on as long as possible and I hope the new fans that come out of it see what we saw in this game when we all first played it.
Sorry if I said anything wrong, I don't ever write here, but I think its nice that people still care so much about YN.
No.9797
>>9794
>Teenagers on whatever boogeyman site(s) you're thinking of aren't going to change my perception of the game and my experiencesEXACTLY THAT
just because some people have different viewpoints and interpretations on a thing you like and engage with it differently doesn't mean they're inherently 'wrong' for engaging that way. they're having fun just like anyone else is
just because i use YN and its fangames as a means of exploring non verbal codes and signifiers and visual narrative analysis doesn't mean im right in that engagement, and someone making a funny meme about madotsuki doesnt make them wrong.
plus, dont let teenagers ruin ur favourite things, why would you let that happen. enjoying things is one of the few things we have so fighting isnt really helping anything. teenagers are teenagers let them be stupid