No.10033
Repost from /v/thread/626284658:
Toby Fox interviews Yume Nikki's creator Kikiyama.
source:
https://chartcarr.neocities.org/secretbase_4 No.10034
Not real.
No.10035
>>10033Hard to believe this was real.
>fails to ask any substantial questions we didn't already have the answers to>fails to ask kikiyama to release any older versions of yn or its songs>fails to word questions or phrases correctly (Kikiyama instead of KikiYama, Lisa instead of LISA)>literally wastes half the interview talking about himself and the faggot last questionThis probably just killed any chances of Anons wanting to interview him or get any work done on finding the older lost versions of YN.
Just another reason why Toby Fox is a faggot.
No.10036
>>10033Remember when some anon here and his friend made a thread claiming he was Kikiyama by providing some graphics and a good chunk of people here, and all over social media believed it? Remember the interviews to Kikiyama in the past before that? So anyway, nice publicity stunt from meme game dev.
No.10038
Regardless of whether or not this interview actually occurred, it does at least appear to be included in the latest issue of Famitsu (週刊ファミ通2023年2月16日号 No.1783(2023年2月2日発売)):
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202302/02291223.htmlI expect that a link to the original text will eventually be published on this page:
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202211/06281777.html No.10039
>>10038Maybe it's a problem with my translating but neither of these pages seem to mention yume nikki or kikiyama. I don't believe this is real, I could tell after 1 sentence that's not toby's voice. I suppose we'll see though.
No.10043
>>10039>neither of these pages seem to mention yume nikki or kikiyama.I thought so too at first, but check out the magazine cover depicted in the image I posted. In the top-right corner, below the rounded box that says "Hogwarts Legacy", in the box with the heading "特別企画":
>ゆめにっき>ききやまThis image was taken from
https://www.famitsu.com/images/000/291/223/z_63d9d5f38c81d.jpgI got this image URL from the first page I linked to.
No.10044
I don’t think Toby could’ve possibly asked questions any more retarded than these
>>10035>KikiYamaits KIKIYAMA
No.10045
Best part about this interview is that all of the information in it is irrelevant, and KIKIYAMA has been known to be alive for half a decade. Also, it might not even be real.
Toby fails to conduct himself well in any interviews, literally spent half the interview with the bitch from Live a Live talking about Garfield. The way he conducted himself in one interview boiled down to "skip" for every other answer when it came to faggot questions.
I'd like to think this is a shitpost but either way this is the biggest loss for YN fans since DD.
No.10046
When people impersonate kikiyama like this it decreases the chances of them doing interviews even further. It's the yndd situation all over again
No.10052
Yeah sisters Famitsu just published a fake interview
No.10058
Dare I say…fraud?
No.10060
Does anyone have the raw scan of the interview? I can't find this latest issue anywhere yet.
No.10062
>>10051It wasn't me this time, I swear.
No.10066
i hate toby fox
No.10067
>>10035>thinking that anons have a chance at it when KIKIYAMA is doing pre-agreed upon questions in a major populator>Asking KIKIYAMA for previous versions/songsThere is a reason why they don't talk to us anymore.
No.10068
>>10064seriously, why does the interviewee respond with monosyllables? is he a deity who only deigns to speak to us in this way?
No.10069
>>10068It's mentioned in Toby's preamble. Kikiyama is infamously elusive and he didn't wanna scare him off or something, so sticking to yes or no questions (aside from the dumb meme one at the end) was one of the three self-imposed restrictions (the other two were that they couldn't be about the game's content, and Kikiyama got to pick the number of questions).
I'll be honest though, even with these restrictions (and assuming this guy's the real deal, for simplicity's sake. we can't prove it, but we also can't prove a negative, so that debate is a bit of an exercise in futility), the questions really could've been better. I see why the interviewer went with the ones that he did (except #5 and #10, those were objectively lame), but half of them seem pretty obvious in retrospect, and all of them would've benefited from further elaboration on Kikiyama's part.
I think avoiding the game's actual content is a smart move since Yume Nikki benefits pretty heavily from its wide variety of possible interpretations, so casting too much light on it would've been lame. However, he really should've ditched the Yes/No gimmick so that Kikiyama could talk more about the process of making it, and maybe about some of his inspirations like LSD Dream Emulator. Oh well.
No.10070
>>10064>mentioning OFF in a Japanese magazineDoes OFF have a Japanese translation? I've considered trying my hand at it but since it would be a translation of a translation and I'm not a native Japanese speaker I decided against it.
No.10071
>>10070>Does OFF have a Japanese translation?Yes, it's been out for a long time:
https://offjptranslation.wordpress.com/about/ No.10073
>>10069imagine a person who must be around 50 years old with that kind of attitude, it is childish and shameful, "my thoughts are too deep for words, everything I say will be expressed in symbols", he is a ridiculous character and you have inflated his ego so much that he considers himself a preterhuman
No.10074
KIKIYAMA is not a person but a conceptual entity born from mankind’s collective subconscious. I’d be more willing to believe Toby Fox interviewed Jesus Christ himself.
No.10076
Sorry but you guys act like fucking manchildren.
>m-muh important questions!!!!!!Shut the fuck up, stop whinning only because something you wanted to happen unfortunately didn't happen at all. That's the mentality equivalent from a 7 years old.
>>10035>>10044>>10061The questions could've been better, i will admit that, but you guys gotta take thinga less seriously from time to time. This is how you fuckers looks like
No.10077
>>10073or he's just japanese and therefore understands the concept of privacy.
No.10078
Have you guys considered that you don't own the game, and harboring this level of possessiveness over it is concerning? Kikiyama made YN. They get to choose who they have interviews with, no matter how ridiculous the questions may be
>>10076>constant overreactionsIt's all so tiresome.
No.10080
>>10076I was thinking the exact same thing. I don’t even think the questions were too bad, a lot of the answers have some significant implications in my opinion. Plus the Denny’s order at the end was funny as fuck.
kikiyama is a private guy, and they deserve that privacy. Who cares if the questions were simple yes or no? Who cares if things seem unsatisfying? We thought this guy was dead for nearly a decade, of course they’re gonna answer with ‘yes’ or ‘no’ and nothing else. Who cares. Kick a foot ball
No.10085
toby fox is a legend
haters mad
No.10088
worst part in my opinion is the WORDING of the questions. he asked multiple questions yet only got one yes or no answer afhghghg
No.10095
>>10093I find it funny how
rainbow people are making such a big deal out of it, while everyone else knew Kikiyama is a male from the beginning, or at least assumed so.
No.10096
>>10095most of them weren't around for the stuff that revealed it, and it isn't really commonly brought up because barely anybody cares.
No.10098
>>10093The legendary man Kikiyama
No.10099
>>10096And this is quite sad. Nobody really cares about neither the game's history and fandom surrounding it. Especially newcomers. Sure there are always exceptions, but how much of them in the entire fandom? Probably not even 1%. I believe we should preserve as much as possible and carrying it through the generations of Yume Nikki fans, for everyone to watch and learn.
>>10097If you have anything to say - then say it right away instead of pussyfooting around, n
ya :3.
No.10100
>>10099I'm
>>10097This isn't /pol/, you don't deserve real engagement, this isn't the place for it. You're claiming to have been around long enough to understand the board culture and fandom yet you're speaking like a post-2016 eternalseptember transplant.
No.10106
>>10100>This isn't /pol/, you don't deserve real engagementYou can leave the thread anytime buddy.
Don't speak for other people when you don't know anything. You don't get to dictate how people use the site.
No.10116
>>10107Any new information is good news.
I'm hesitant to bring this up, given that most threads about Undertale devolve into arguments, but what do anons here think of Deltarune?
No.10125
The start was kind of poor but got better in ch2 imo.
No.10126
>>10107Just the confirmation that Kiki is alive is good enough news for me. Could care less what their gender is.
No.10158
nice toby
No.10161
>>10116I almost want to like deltarune but I feel like I wouldn't relate at all to whatever angsty 14 year old antics are going on there anymore. maybe if I was like, 12 and easily impressed by colorful artstyles again
I'm saying all of this in like the nicest tone possible
No.10162
>10161
It didn't seem very edgy to me. If it interests you at all, there's no harm in checking it out.
No.10171
>>10077Japanese people are capable of doing normal interviews and answering open-ended questions.
No.10179
>>10116I really liked the first chapter, but the second one dissapointed me to no end.
No.10187
more like redditfox amiright?
No.10253
>>10126>>10107We always knew it was a guy. If you are part of the group that didnt, you have no idea how men and women are and assume they think the same.
No.10254
>>10253I don't get it, you mean like a woman couldn't have made/come up with the stuff in yn lol?
Also people say a lot of things about kikiyama and just say "obviously everyone knows" but doesn't actually point to what they get it from so I'm confused. Japanese also doesn't have 3rd person gendered pronouns so I don't they could tell that from the original interview.
Cool to know that kikiyama played LSD, knowing their inspirations makes yume nikki seem like less of a radical jump.
No.10260
>>10259Who hurt you?? All I said was that women could make surreal art, like no shit even just in Japan in the early 00's you had women like Chiho Aoshima or Tujiko Noriko making weird shit. I don't care if you hate women but I don't see how it's obvious that kikiyama is a dude unless Eloy or whoever's cyberstalking has produced a candid photo of their dick.
No.10261
>>10253this is such an insane opinion to begin with. men and women are so different that a woman couldnt have made a rpg maker game about a girl tripping through absurd genitalia imagery nightmares but a man obviously could have.
No.10263
Japanese women have made tons of contributions to experimental music, onkyo and noise and all that, so I really don't see a reason why a Japanese woman wouldn't make an experimental game non-commercially
No.10264
You guys are thinking too deep about an interview that may have never even happened for all we know.
No.10265
>>10264Of course it happened, I doubt Toby Fox would risk his reputation by making up a fake interview. Just like I doubt Kadokawa would risk a lawsuit for apropiating Kikiyama's IP without their consent.
No.10266
>>10265Oh yeah the 2 billion dollar corporation needs to watch for that lawsuit, it'd be an uphill battle.
No.10267
Somehow I really don't think Toby would outright bullshit like that, but also I can't believe the interview is real
No.10269
>>10266Japanese copyright laws would 100% make Kikiyama win. But you want to believe Kikiyama is some ethereal being unable to interact in any way with the human realm besides their game.
No.10270
>>10269I find everything on the internet, doctors, scientists, and japanese law experts.
No.10271
>>10270I know jackshit about japanese laws I just comment whatever comes to my mind. Have a nice day.
No.10272
>>10265why not? kikiyama likely isnt going to come out and decry it, so tobys essentially massively boosting his street cred with zero effort and zero risk
No.10273
>>10272It's a win-win then, in a way? Either he gets the cred, or Kikiyama comes out AND he still gets the cred for causing that to happen. Pretty baller move if you ask me
No.10275
>>10273i was thinking in the realm of "theres no way kikiyama is gonna come out any time soon so theres essentially no risk of being outed" but that is a good point, even if kikiyama comes out and denounces it as fake he will still likely get street cred just for causing kikiyama to come out
No.10285
it's completely absurd to think toby fox would lie about this interview, but whatever fuels your hate-boner I guess
No.10288
i'm 100% sure tobyfox is inspired by yn
No.10299
>>10076>This is how you fuckers looks likeEvery time someone is defensive over "hate comments" and says they are posted by ugly fat manchildren it is usually projection.
No.10300
>>10288It's pretty apparent that YN and Cave Story inspired a lot of the elements we see in Undertale.
It was interesting to note that Kikiyama didn't make any traditional rpgs before starting work on Yume Nikki. I honestly wonder what Kikiyama's art, be it manga or games, were before and after YN. Maybe he goes by a different handle and Yume Nikki is explicitly only for the Kikiyama handle. Either way, I thank him for bringing this wonderful game into the world
No.10307
What would you guys have asked? I think I would have asked why they stopped developing the game or what a version 1.0 might have looked like. Or just anything they would have included if they had the chance
No.10308
>>10307Honestly, I'd have asked if Kikiyama still had access to really early versions of Yume Nikki and if there was a chance of said versions ever getting reuploaded.