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Repost from /v/thread/626284658:
Toby Fox interviews Yume Nikki's creator Kikiyama.



Not real.


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Hard to believe this was real.
>fails to ask any substantial questions we didn't already have the answers to
>fails to ask kikiyama to release any older versions of yn or its songs
>fails to word questions or phrases correctly (Kikiyama instead of KikiYama, Lisa instead of LISA)
>literally wastes half the interview talking about himself and the faggot last question
This probably just killed any chances of Anons wanting to interview him or get any work done on finding the older lost versions of YN.
Just another reason why Toby Fox is a faggot.


Remember when some anon here and his friend made a thread claiming he was Kikiyama by providing some graphics and a good chunk of people here, and all over social media believed it? Remember the interviews to Kikiyama in the past before that? So anyway, nice publicity stunt from meme game dev.


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Too bad that this is not real.


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Regardless of whether or not this interview actually occurred, it does at least appear to be included in the latest issue of Famitsu (週刊ファミ通2023年2月16日号 No.1783(2023年2月2日発売)): https://www.famitsu.com/news/202302/02291223.html
I expect that a link to the original text will eventually be published on this page: https://www.famitsu.com/news/202211/06281777.html


Maybe it's a problem with my translating but neither of these pages seem to mention yume nikki or kikiyama. I don't believe this is real, I could tell after 1 sentence that's not toby's voice. I suppose we'll see though.


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this is absolutely real guys its literally published in famitsu she is Alive and still making art


>neither of these pages seem to mention yume nikki or kikiyama.
I thought so too at first, but check out the magazine cover depicted in the image I posted. In the top-right corner, below the rounded box that says "Hogwarts Legacy", in the box with the heading "特別企画":
This image was taken from https://www.famitsu.com/images/000/291/223/z_63d9d5f38c81d.jpg
I got this image URL from the first page I linked to.


I don’t think Toby could’ve possibly asked questions any more retarded than these


Best part about this interview is that all of the information in it is irrelevant, and KIKIYAMA has been known to be alive for half a decade. Also, it might not even be real.
Toby fails to conduct himself well in any interviews, literally spent half the interview with the bitch from Live a Live talking about Garfield. The way he conducted himself in one interview boiled down to "skip" for every other answer when it came to faggot questions.
I'd like to think this is a shitpost but either way this is the biggest loss for YN fans since DD.


When people impersonate kikiyama like this it decreases the chances of them doing interviews even further. It's the yndd situation all over again


Oh… oh.


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Alright, which of you did it this time?


Yeah sisters Famitsu just published a fake interview


Dare I say…fraud?


Does anyone have the raw scan of the interview? I can't find this latest issue anywhere yet.


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Nothing interesting has been asked, nothing new has been made known. What a waste of an opportunity. Toby Cocks deserves nothing but a spit in his stupid face. Doesn't really matter if it's fake or not, this interview has no value.


It wasn't me this time, I swear.


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Okay, they uploaded the issue, here are the raws of the interview.


i hate toby fox


>thinking that anons have a chance at it when KIKIYAMA is doing pre-agreed upon questions in a major populator
>Asking KIKIYAMA for previous versions/songs
There is a reason why they don't talk to us anymore.


seriously, why does the interviewee respond with monosyllables? is he a deity who only deigns to speak to us in this way?



It's mentioned in Toby's preamble. Kikiyama is infamously elusive and he didn't wanna scare him off or something, so sticking to yes or no questions (aside from the dumb meme one at the end) was one of the three self-imposed restrictions (the other two were that they couldn't be about the game's content, and Kikiyama got to pick the number of questions).

I'll be honest though, even with these restrictions (and assuming this guy's the real deal, for simplicity's sake. we can't prove it, but we also can't prove a negative, so that debate is a bit of an exercise in futility), the questions really could've been better. I see why the interviewer went with the ones that he did (except #5 and #10, those were objectively lame), but half of them seem pretty obvious in retrospect, and all of them would've benefited from further elaboration on Kikiyama's part.

I think avoiding the game's actual content is a smart move since Yume Nikki benefits pretty heavily from its wide variety of possible interpretations, so casting too much light on it would've been lame. However, he really should've ditched the Yes/No gimmick so that Kikiyama could talk more about the process of making it, and maybe about some of his inspirations like LSD Dream Emulator. Oh well.


>mentioning OFF in a Japanese magazine
Does OFF have a Japanese translation? I've considered trying my hand at it but since it would be a translation of a translation and I'm not a native Japanese speaker I decided against it.


>Does OFF have a Japanese translation?
Yes, it's been out for a long time: https://offjptranslation.wordpress.com/about/


imagine a person who must be around 50 years old with that kind of attitude, it is childish and shameful, "my thoughts are too deep for words, everything I say will be expressed in symbols", he is a ridiculous character and you have inflated his ego so much that he considers himself a preterhuman


KIKIYAMA is not a person but a conceptual entity born from mankind’s collective subconscious. I’d be more willing to believe Toby Fox interviewed Jesus Christ himself.


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Sorry but you guys act like fucking manchildren.
>m-muh important questions!!!!!!
Shut the fuck up, stop whinning only because something you wanted to happen unfortunately didn't happen at all. That's the mentality equivalent from a 7 years old.
The questions could've been better, i will admit that, but you guys gotta take thinga less seriously from time to time. This is how you fuckers looks like


or he's just japanese and therefore understands the concept of privacy.


Have you guys considered that you don't own the game, and harboring this level of possessiveness over it is concerning? Kikiyama made YN. They get to choose who they have interviews with, no matter how ridiculous the questions may be

>constant overreactions

It's all so tiresome.


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I was thinking the exact same thing. I don’t even think the questions were too bad, a lot of the answers have some significant implications in my opinion. Plus the Denny’s order at the end was funny as fuck.

kikiyama is a private guy, and they deserve that privacy. Who cares if the questions were simple yes or no? Who cares if things seem unsatisfying? We thought this guy was dead for nearly a decade, of course they’re gonna answer with ‘yes’ or ‘no’ and nothing else. Who cares. Kick a foot ball


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Still, we should publicly execute Toby Cocks for all the hate crimes he has committed against our beautiful fandom. Homocat too.


toby fox is a legend
haters mad


worst part in my opinion is the WORDING of the questions. he asked multiple questions yet only got one yes or no answer afhghghg


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I find it funny how rainbow people are making such a big deal out of it, while everyone else knew Kikiyama is a male from the beginning, or at least assumed so.


most of them weren't around for the stuff that revealed it, and it isn't really commonly brought up because barely anybody cares.


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I could say something mean about you right now but won't because it's uboachan. You should reflect on that about that before dramaposting again.


The legendary man Kikiyama


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And this is quite sad. Nobody really cares about neither the game's history and fandom surrounding it. Especially newcomers. Sure there are always exceptions, but how much of them in the entire fandom? Probably not even 1%. I believe we should preserve as much as possible and carrying it through the generations of Yume Nikki fans, for everyone to watch and learn.
If you have anything to say - then say it right away instead of pussyfooting around, nya :3.


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I'm >>10097
This isn't /pol/, you don't deserve real engagement, this isn't the place for it. You're claiming to have been around long enough to understand the board culture and fandom yet you're speaking like a post-2016 eternalseptember transplant.


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Ok, and?


>This isn't /pol/, you don't deserve real engagement
You can leave the thread anytime buddy.
Don't speak for other people when you don't know anything. You don't get to dictate how people use the site.


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>sanest toby fox and/or undertale thread
I don't know who started it or why but i think it's best if the thread gets more chill. At least we know kikiyama is a guy now, that's good news aint it


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Any new information is good news.

I'm hesitant to bring this up, given that most threads about Undertale devolve into arguments, but what do anons here think of Deltarune?


The start was kind of poor but got better in ch2 imo.


Just the confirmation that Kiki is alive is good enough news for me. Could care less what their gender is.


nice toby


I almost want to like deltarune but I feel like I wouldn't relate at all to whatever angsty 14 year old antics are going on there anymore. maybe if I was like, 12 and easily impressed by colorful artstyles again
I'm saying all of this in like the nicest tone possible


It didn't seem very edgy to me. If it interests you at all, there's no harm in checking it out.


Japanese people are capable of doing normal interviews and answering open-ended questions.


I really liked the first chapter, but the second one dissapointed me to no end.


more like redditfox amiright?


We always knew it was a guy. If you are part of the group that didnt, you have no idea how men and women are and assume they think the same.


I don't get it, you mean like a woman couldn't have made/come up with the stuff in yn lol?
Also people say a lot of things about kikiyama and just say "obviously everyone knows" but doesn't actually point to what they get it from so I'm confused. Japanese also doesn't have 3rd person gendered pronouns so I don't they could tell that from the original interview.

Cool to know that kikiyama played LSD, knowing their inspirations makes yume nikki seem like less of a radical jump.


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True, I mean, if LSD Dream Emulator was based on the dreams of a japanese lady then it's not impossible for Kikiyama to be a woman.


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yeah like you sound like someone who has a lot of deep emotional relationships with men and women who you treat equally so you know exactly how they think


Who hurt you?? All I said was that women could make surreal art, like no shit even just in Japan in the early 00's you had women like Chiho Aoshima or Tujiko Noriko making weird shit. I don't care if you hate women but I don't see how it's obvious that kikiyama is a dude unless Eloy or whoever's cyberstalking has produced a candid photo of their dick.


this is such an insane opinion to begin with. men and women are so different that a woman couldnt have made a rpg maker game about a girl tripping through absurd genitalia imagery nightmares but a man obviously could have.


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Freud strikes again


Japanese women have made tons of contributions to experimental music, onkyo and noise and all that, so I really don't see a reason why a Japanese woman wouldn't make an experimental game non-commercially


You guys are thinking too deep about an interview that may have never even happened for all we know.


Of course it happened, I doubt Toby Fox would risk his reputation by making up a fake interview. Just like I doubt Kadokawa would risk a lawsuit for apropiating Kikiyama's IP without their consent.


Oh yeah the 2 billion dollar corporation needs to watch for that lawsuit, it'd be an uphill battle.


Somehow I really don't think Toby would outright bullshit like that, but also I can't believe the interview is real


Japanese copyright laws would 100% make Kikiyama win. But you want to believe Kikiyama is some ethereal being unable to interact in any way with the human realm besides their game.


I find everything on the internet, doctors, scientists, and japanese law experts.


I know jackshit about japanese laws I just comment whatever comes to my mind. Have a nice day.


why not? kikiyama likely isnt going to come out and decry it, so tobys essentially massively boosting his street cred with zero effort and zero risk


It's a win-win then, in a way? Either he gets the cred, or Kikiyama comes out AND he still gets the cred for causing that to happen. Pretty baller move if you ask me


i was thinking in the realm of "theres no way kikiyama is gonna come out any time soon so theres essentially no risk of being outed" but that is a good point, even if kikiyama comes out and denounces it as fake he will still likely get street cred just for causing kikiyama to come out


it's completely absurd to think toby fox would lie about this interview, but whatever fuels your hate-boner I guess


t. toby fox


i'm 100% sure tobyfox is inspired by yn


>This is how you fuckers looks like
Every time someone is defensive over "hate comments" and says they are posted by ugly fat manchildren it is usually projection.


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It's pretty apparent that YN and Cave Story inspired a lot of the elements we see in Undertale.
It was interesting to note that Kikiyama didn't make any traditional rpgs before starting work on Yume Nikki. I honestly wonder what Kikiyama's art, be it manga or games, were before and after YN. Maybe he goes by a different handle and Yume Nikki is explicitly only for the Kikiyama handle. Either way, I thank him for bringing this wonderful game into the world


What would you guys have asked? I think I would have asked why they stopped developing the game or what a version 1.0 might have looked like. Or just anything they would have included if they had the chance


Honestly, I'd have asked if Kikiyama still had access to really early versions of Yume Nikki and if there was a chance of said versions ever getting reuploaded.

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