No.2170
>Music had musicians and not mercenaries
>Kids played the BEST videogames unlike the shit nowdays
>OSs were developed with responsability
>our politicians werent so FUCKED UP
>New generations are complete retards
Every generation thinks like this (replace games/os with whatever was still relatively new at the time)…
No.2171
>>2170You can't deny 2000 kids are fucking retarded for real…
No.2172
>OLD MAX PAYNE WAS WAY BETTER THAN THE NEW MAX PAYNE AND THE NEW MAX PAYNE MOVIE SHIT
No.2174
One thing I do miss about the 90's or even early 2000 was that people were more required to understand how their computers worked, or how to deal with problems to a degree, what with using DOS, and as much nostalgia as I have for old OS's they weren't perfect and you had to figure annoying shit out. Nowadays it feels like no one knows how a computer actually works and get one to check their Facebook. Everything revolves around fucking social media shit and it drives me crazy.
>New generations are complete retards
Doesn't every generation think the new one is retarded, though? However I would be lying if I said I didn't think the new generation isn't retarded. I guess we'll just continue to grow more retarded with each new gen.
It must be a retarded future, my friends!
No.2176
>>2174>Doesn't every generation think the new one is retarded, though?People think this way because they have conveniently forgotten being retarded when they were young. When you've learned a lot more life lessons than another person, they're going to seem stupid to you, especially if they don't take your advice. Chances are very high that you have been the stupid kid who wouldn't take someone else's common sense advice at some point in your life… that's just what happens as one generation ages and another rises up after them
kids these days are shitty little assholes just like they were when I was a kid. Western society is more fucked up in some ways and less in others. I can't really say things are better or worse overall, I can think of too many examples of each.
I tend to lean towards "worse" but I guess it depends
though if we're talking strictly about media, then yeah, probably worse overall.
No.2178
>>2176What if you were not so retarded as the kids nowdays? I mean, not even im my worse moments.
No.2179
Only 151 pokemon
No.2180
>>2178then you were above average. There will always be idiots all over the place
No.2181
I love you all
No.2183
my counter strike 1.0 LAN clan
No.2184
Star Wars Rebellion
Hue
No.2185
Planescape:Torment
Both Baldur's Gates (well maybe. Minsc was annoying as shit but otherwise they were good.)
The Icewind Dale series.
The first two Fallouts (AKA the good ones)
Ultima VII
Darklands
Darksun
THE ELDER SCROLLS II: DAGGERFALL
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
The semi-good Final Fantasy games (4-9)
No.2187
>>2186http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwdlqquJDK4Death note was loved all around too though and samurai champloo has a style very similar to cowboy bebop (same director according to wikipedia).
No.2188
Best thread in ubuu, ever
No.2191
>>2168>Anime was better than the modern moeshitA lot of 90's anime is pretty terrible. Moe has always been around, it just didn't get fansubbed back then.
>Music had musicians and not mercenariesLOL
>Kids played the BEST videogames unlike the shit nowdaysYeah no. Everyone remembers classics like Super Metroid and Doom, but for every Doom there was two dozen lame fighting games and racing games.
>OSs were developed with responsabilityTwo words: Windows 95.
>our politicians werent so FUCKED UPWell that depends on what your definition of "weren't" is!
No.2192
>>21915/10 too obvious, I got you at the Doom part
No.2193
>>2191>A lot of 90's anime is pretty terribleYour teen is showing
No.2194
>>2173Myst is for casuals. Nigga, I play ZORK.
No.2195
>Two words: Windows 95.
Many words: Windows Vista, Windows 8, Ubuntu(10+), OSX
is not my fault that your brand of selection suck Winfag, my experience with OSs was wonderful because I'm not a fucking normalfag
>for every Doom there was two dozen lame fighting games and racing games
And now for every dancing WII game there for fags are 1000 ultra realistic atmosphereless generic fps, please.
>that depends on what your definition of "weren't" is!
Yeah, politicians are horrible, but all of them were kids with the 2000 combo Bush/Obama legal terrorism (but now with steroids)
>A lot of 90's anime is pretty terrible….
Yeah, but now it's all fanservice or moeshit don't deny it, also back then there were God Tier Animes like the first releases of Saint Seiya and Evangelion, give me something nowdays with THAT LEVEL
Finally
>Doom
You're really a normalfag if you take doom as cannon, I mean, there where more EPIC games than you think, for example the best Command&Conquer games
No.2196
>>2195I think
>>2191 was trying to say that the 90s weren't as great as OP thought, not that the current decade is better.
So you getting all butthurt and defensive over nothing just makes you look foolish. Good going!
No.2198
>>2194Oh man, Zork was (and still is) great.
No.2199
>>2195Ghost Hound. And for manga, Narutaru. I still prefer the Eva, but GH had a really nice sound treatment with a cool story, and Narutaru is just plain beautiful.
No.2200
>2332Your retarded is showing. If you ever watched 90's anime when it was still current, you probably suffered through a lot of trite stinkbombs like Kimera and Burn-Up, on the slim hope that they might be as good as Serial Experiments Lain or Battle Angel Alita. Just because you torrented some Yu Yu Hakusho blurays doesn't mean you have any fucking clue what it was like to be an anime fan in the 90's.
>>2195>Windows Vista, Windows 8, UbuntuWindows XP is the best OS ever, prove me wrong.
>for every dancing WII game there for fags are 1000 ultra realistic atmosphereless generic fpsFPS has always been, and still remains, the genre where the most technological innovation happens. Doom's design philosophy has had far-reaching influences in the entire MEDIUM of video games, not just its own genre, and games like Half-Life and Bioshock continue the trend. Oh, and nice homophobia. You're a textbook case for Asperger's.
>all of them were kids with the 2000 combo Bush/Obama legal terrorism (but now with steroids)Can you say that again, in English?
>implying modern anime is moeshitJojo's Bizarre Adventure, Berserk movie, Higurashi, Psycho-Pass, fucking KAIJI. You're a git, mate. And of course I realize the 90's had good shows too, but you people have to realize (are you listening,
>>2193?), those shows were uncommonly good. Just like Kaiji is uncommonly good for 201X, Evangelion was uncommonly good for the 90's. The sheer VOLUME of anime produced in any given decade is so great, you can't possibly expect all (or even half) of it to be good. Remembering only the stuff you liked about a decade and forgetting all the bad stuff is the definition of nostalgia.
Oh and by the way,
>using the word "normalfag">misspelling the word "canon" and also using it completely wrong>EPIC>that fucking alphabet soup of incoherent political mumbling, hahaThe way you communicate is insufferable.
No.2201
>>2200Fuck you, Bioshock didn't innovate a single thing. Ever heard of System Shock? 90s wannabe SCUM.
No.2202
>this thread
It's like I'm really on /v/
No.2203
>>2200Teenager please, let's see, first, about anime I've told you
>give me something nowdays with THAT LEVELYou failed like a monkey, I appreciate the huge text anyway.
>Windows XP is the best OS ever>Windows the best OS>Any generationI'm telling you this again, you're a fillthy casual, go back to facebook. I'm not your teacher, google GNU and learn.
>FPS has always been, and still remainsNo no, there's nothing wrong with FPSs, but you have to recognize that your era cares more for the graphics and sound than an actual story
>Can you say that again, in English?yeah, drones killing civil population, spy robots, invasion to muslim countries over oil and money, you choose
Again, you answer nothing, the way you communicate is like a teen
>>2202You've never been in /v/ then, they never discuss old things, they're all 12
No.2204
>>2200Go watch naruto, you're not even in our powerlevel
No.2205
"I am a great person because I was alive when Cowboy Bebop aired" Yeah right… This thread was supposed to be about the decades, not the people living then and now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLIiF15wjQ No.2206
>>2205Wow I don't remember all of those nipples and the overwhelming sense of dread in spice girls music videos
No.2207
>>2203>You failed like a monkeyIf you don't think Kaiji is amazing, the only one who fails is you.
>google GNU and learnI use GIMP for all my image editing needs, and Libre Office for schoolwork. I'm familiar with the GNU movement; you should be aware that Windows has GNU software too. If "google GNU" is your entire argument, then it's a pretty weak one.
>your era cares more for the graphics and sound than an actual storyThis has always been the case. Even in the 80's, games were advertised as "high resolution" and "state of the art graphics."
>/v/ never discuss old thingsDis nigga serious?
>drones killing civil population, spy robots, invasion to muslim countries over oil and moneyOh, yeah, because we sure didn't have war in the Middle East in the 90's.
No.2208
>>2204Naruto started in the 90's. What was that about being the master race, again?
No.2209
>>2208First. Answer. Please.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? BE HONEST!
Second, who watched Naruto in the 90's? it was you fillthy generation who loved it. Thank you, now get out 2000 pleb.
No.2210
>>2207>windows has GNU softwareWhat an unholy piece of dog shit! GNU is an OS… DAMN! Seriously google it and you will understand….
>This has always been the case. Even in the 80's, games were advertised as "high resolution" and "state of the art graphics."Yeah, that's right but those had stories too
>Dis nigga serious?Sorry /v/
>Oh, yeah, because we sure didn't have war in the Middle East in the 90's.Correct, but not for the lulz like nowdays, at least those conflicts had a reason (invented or not)
Now it's just:
>Random muslim country>lol let's bomb our own embassy> WAAAAAAAAAAAR DRONES KILL EVERYTHING LOL OILDo you love 2000 that much… I mean, as I see, you think I have some nostalgia autism thing but I don't, I know all the generations have good things, I just say, the best of the 90's is better than the best of the 2000
Have a keion for your your delight
No.2211
>>2209>who watched Naruto in the 90's?Japanese people. What, do you think they actually care what Americans think of their shows?
InuYasha, another series I'm sure you hate and associate with the 00's, also started in the 90's. I know this because I was into anime in the pre-Toonami days, and would watch/read anything I could get ahold of even if it wasn't that good, because it's not like there was a wide selection. We didn't have BitTorrent back then, you know?
No.2213
>>2210>GNU is an OSOh yeah, "GNU's Not Unix." I thought you meant the GNU license, my bad.
Anyway, GNU operating system? Oh boy, I sure love having to code my own drivers because the entire GNU/Linux/BSD/etc. movement is made up of clumsy nerds who take pride in their inability to coordinate their efforts!
>those games had stories tooOh yeah, I still remember being moved to tears by the RIVETING stories of Castlevania and Megaman.
>Do you love 2000 that muchI'm not saying the 00's were better than the 90's, I'm just saying they're not worse. If this thread had started with "fuck the 10's, 00's were better" do you think we wouldn't be having this same exact discussion?
>best of the 90's is better than best of the 00'sStill say they're about equal. If I had to make a top ten list of all-time favorite anime, I think the 80's, 90's, and 00's would all be equally represented.
No.2214
>>2211I don't give two fucks on how was the 90's for another culture…
I am just VERY worried on how do you know this information about Narutard
Also I'm saying that the 2000 was the generation who loved it, and I am right
Have a 2000's
No.2215
>>2213Say Kaiji is better than Saint Seiya and I'll suck your dick
No.2218
>>2214>I don't give two fucks on how was the 90's for another cultureSo in other words, when you say you love 90's anime, what you really mean is, you love those shows you remember watching as a kid in the 90's. Nope, that sure doesn't sound like nostalgia at all!
No.2220
>>2218I'm not the same anon, I DO have nostalgia
And still it was the 2000 who loved it
No.2221
>>2374
VHS MOTHERFUCKER!
No.2223
I'm not really intent on arguing since the question of which generation is better entirely comes down to opinions, (plus I think all generations are a mixed bag anyway) though I do want to point out that Yume Nikki was developed in the timeframe of 2004-2007.
Use that information as you'd like.
No.2226
>>2222My daily terror is the day my VHS player will finally die on me…
No.2227
>>2224>>2225Hahaha oh wow. Buttravaged GNU aspies mad that their shitty OS can't run Yume Nikki.
No.2228
>>2227Yume Nikki's a great game, but let's be honest; pretty much everything that
90S MASTER RACE guy listed is objectively better.
No.2229
oh yes…98se, downloading fansubs from usenet (el oh el), fanDUBS (so bad. so very, very bad)…
Urusei Yatsura, Sailormoon, CCS, let us not forget Tokyo Babylon and X/1999. My first manga was Battle Angel Alita…so many good things were happening to me in the 90's and I didn't even know it.
I will say this, though: fucking 00's and 10's kids are a bunch of whiny, spoiled fucking brats who don't understand how good they have it.
(I chose this format instead of the reverse, which would have been the above comment followed by BACK IN MY DAY)
No.2230
>Anime was better than the modern moeshit
Not necessarily. I think a lot of modern anime is easier to watch and there's more diversity now. There's simply more out there, so the shit is more noticeable.
>Music had musicians and not mercenaries
There's still plenty of great music out there, it's just that the mainstream focus is on all the wrong things.
>Kids played the BEST videogames unlike the shit nowdays
I would debate that. A lot of oldschool games aren't as good as you remember, and the early 90s still figured into the NES era which was full of shovelware and artificially difficult games. A lot of 2D games are bland and repetitive, and even modern 2D games like the ones for the DS, or indie titles like Cave Story and Bastion seem to have more depth to them. There are still some great games being made, and games overall have advanced not just in terms of graphics but in terms of gameplay.
The real issue is that games didn't develop much past the release of Half Life 2 or so, not the 90s. The PS2 had some truly great titles and was probably largely responsible, with games like Ico, Shadow of the Colossus etc. for video games being taken more seriously as an art form. Not to mention the Dreamcast, which for those outside Japan was more of a 2000s thing than a 90s thing. Shenmue II, Sonic Adventure 2, etc. quite a few iconic titles there.
PC gaming brought us the likes of Morrowind which set all kinds of new standards.
Even then I enjoyed quite a lot of 360 titles.
I would say the golden era of games was from 1993(release of Doom) to 2004(release of Half Life 2). I would even extend it to early 360 to an extent.
>Economy was stable
Largely due to being built on bubbles that have now popped.
>I WAS YOUNG
That's more of a personal thing. Being young for some people can be depressing.
>OSs were developed with responsability
Honestly, there are a lot of creature comforts in modern versions of Windows you wouldn't want to give up. I don't find Windows 7 to be all that buggy either.
>our politicians werent so FUCKED UP
Things are a bit more crazy now but a lot of the same attitudes still exists. Not to mention in terms of politics, you didn't have as much in the way of LGBT rights and if I was on HRT in the 90s I'd probably be given pregnant mare urine. Ew.
>New generations are complete retards
Smarter in some ways, dumber than others. IQs have been increasing somewhat. But there's a lot of toxic attitudes largely due to the influence of the internet in it's relative infancy and other factors. It does need to be looked at, but every generation says this about the generation that comes after(or before) them. It's hard to knnow right now.
In all honesty, I'd rather be living my life in the 90s than now since there was a more positive feel, but I'd still look forward to various things in the 2000s as well, now that I'd know what to look for.
No.2231
>>2227>Hahaha oh wow. Buttravaged GNU aspies mad that their shitty OS can't run Yume Nikki.But they can you dumb fuck.
>>2230POTC pls let me dream
No.2232
>Fuck you 2000>Max Payne Released in 20012005ish is when the videogames drought really kicked in.
There are still good things but you cannot deny that creative control of *most* media is now in the hands of publishers, aiming for a broad audience with mediocrity, lest they challenge anyone with their own self expression. Thank fuck for the internet that allows talented people to launch things on their own.
one last thing
>The Next Generation>Deep Space Nine>Voyager>Stargate>Red Motherfucking Dwarf (okay started 88)>Babylon 5Versus:
>Battlestar Galactica>New Doctor Who>billions of shitty budget scifi shows like warehouse 13I know what I'd choose, but I'd miss Galactica. Also case in point, Blood and Chrome straight to DVD because it costs too much to air or some shit. They aired Galactia a couple of years ago, whats the problem you dumb corporate shits?
>>2217I'm glad it's dead, data that degrades over time, no thanks.
>>2229I get free Usenet from my ISP, I'm using it right now. Also got some Lum Manga.
So yeah, conclusion is, there's a lot more corporate control over what you see and hear.
>hear about dubstep on the chans>month later its advertising me some samsung pos on tvDubstep, there's music that really evokes emotion, party music for party people.
No.2234
>>2232>max payne 1this wikipedia noobitus
No.2235
>>2233If you'd bothered to read the rest of the post you'd see I'm agreeing with you and not the same person you are so rectally pained at. Looks like you're as fallible as everyone else.
No.2236
>>2235How do you expect me to read something else after that bullshit? anyway, you made a point
No.2237
>>2232You forgot to mention Firefly.
No.2238
>>2231>be Linux user>have to use VM's and reverse-engineered Windows APIs to do anything funLinux master race you guys ;_;
No.2239
>>2236>How do you expect me to read something else after that bullshit?By exercising a fraction of the diligence in posting
read what you're replying to that you are criticising me for lacking
trusting wikipedia. I am not responsible for your mistakes.
No.2240
>>2238lrn2wine and portage
>Be windows user>Can't hack the FBIoh boy, oh ho ho ho
