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Guns're for pussies who cannot fire with bows or load a crossbow.


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Can your bowie do this?



And much more


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Yeah yeah, nice GUN.
Where can I buy 5 of these? I need them to protect me from the looters…


If you can fire your bow in an instant after carrying it in your pocket, bow might be a good weapon. Otherwise shooting arrows is only good for a hobby or sport. Besides, there is nothing manly in crossbows - even an untrained idiot can fire one. It's a commoners' weapon compared to longbow which takes years of training to use efficiently. Then again, crossbow was a fat nobleman's main hunting weapon (fat old men can't fire longbows too well, I guess) so maybe calling it utterly lower class is wrong.



I never said there's something manly in shooting crossbow; a simple warrior with no experience can shoot it and kill a knight
with chainmaille at 120 meters (hypothetically and if he had luck). And you need more time to reload it - shit.

But archery, oh yeah, is definitely the best weapon. You can make one by yourself, with its arrows; is a accurate weapon, with training; and silent, if precise. Also, can be posiened to be more efficent.

The only proble you have is to carry it; but nothing mora than it.


Fire refers to firing a gun or a cannon, not a bow. You shoot a bow, or loose an arrow if you're feeling fancy/poetic/pretentious. You don't fire a bow or an arrow. There is no fire, gunpowder, or heat involved.


Have you happened to watch this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GHzSg5P-Jw

I love this guy.


One guy with a DShK or an M2HB can get more metal downrange and do more damage over a longer distance than a whole regiment could do with crossbows in a similar timeframe.



Well, here you are right: English is not my native language, so there's where I fucked it.


Crossbows are for medieval pussies. Plus, you shoot a only ONE arrow<-(not sure is called like that in english) per minute.

Also, tell me how much costed you that nice DShK, or you M2HB, which are some beautiful guns…… <-Don't take this seriously



This shit; re-checked. Not arrow; bolt. I coudln't remember it until I played Mount & Blade again.


Yes the crossbow doesn't need much training to use. But thats the beauty of it. To pull a 120 pound war bow takes years of training to built up the strength in your muscles and bones. Training these guys takes a ton of time and resources. The crossbow is like the sten.



Trying archery takes time - but once you're used to bows, is one of the best weapons you will ever find.
Crossbow is more like to aim and shoot - but reload it, fuck, you had to be a strongman and lucky in battle.

Everyone could shoot a crossbow, because is not really a challenge; but wasn't really a good weapon in battle.

Plus, as an anon said up, it was a weapon for weaks who coudln't shoot a bow.
Lionheart died after he was shot by a crossbowman - under hands of a little guy that barely has ate in that day and possibly couldn't shoot a bow because he hadn't the strenght to.

>In the early evening of 25 March 1199, Richard was walking around the castle perimeter without his chainmail <-(this was stupid), investigating the progress of sappers on the castle walls. Missiles were occasionally shot from the castle walls, but these were given little attention. One defender in particular amused the king greatly — a man standing on the walls, crossbow in one hand, the other clutching a frying pan which he had been using all day as a shield to beat off missiles. He deliberately aimed at the king, which the king applauded; however, another crossbowman then struck the king in the left shoulder near the neck.


Its not just 'takes time', it takes YEARS. For English longbows you'd have to start as a little boy and as you grew up you'd move on to bigger and high poundage bows. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow#Use_and_performance

On the shipwreck of the Mary Rose it was easy to tell which skeletons belonged to the archers: they were the ones where the spines were bent and their arms and shoulders had bone spurs to deal with the force of the bow.



Man I know that all (but thanks for posting the info).
Yeah, a ENGLISH LONGBOW take years (one or to tow/five, more or less and if my memory didn't fuck up). Another kind of bow only takes months.

Now tell me, how you build your own gun with wood? How much takes it to be finished?

And if you say 'Nah, I buy one', well, same shit with bows.

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