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I've been reconsidering my life. They always tell you that as you grow up things get easier since you mature and bloom into a normal human being… but I've been pondering whether people only pretend to have their lives in control only to not lose their shit about it. I mean, yeah, I don't think everybody hates their lives, but I'm sure everybody gets chocked by the pressure once in a while. The question is, what happens when your life is constant chocking? Or rather, can you go on with your live as you're chocked every second? Some years ago I remember looking at people and feeling completely distant, and knowing that one day I'd merge with the multitude. Now that it's happening, I almost can feel my old self there looking at me from outside the crowd. It's been pretty surreal. My life isn't bad in on itself, but I feel I can't fit, and no matter what I do it's never enough. I don't know, I've had this idea that I'm broken somehow, and it's been my justification for so long. If I can't be fixed, why bother?
So yeah. It's late ubuu, I'm tired and I caught a cold. Good night, hang in there, guys. I hope that even if things aren't going that well you can at least get some peace from Ritz's voice.
On the average, most western plots and premises are more unique and creative in comparison to the average anime plot (either moe SoL romcom ecchi light novel/mangoes adaptation with self insert MC and a harem or the shounen boss of the week with power escalation). Western animation is also more trendy while most anime stick to a clear formula. Execution, on the other hand, is another matter. Most Japanese studios (and the people that make them up) have been longstay and have more experience with the medium, while western is as come and go as it can get. Most recent CalArts stuff is rather trash and focuses more on fulfilling social justice quota or appealing to children and viral media. On animation and style, anime still consistently ripoffs Disney while western animation is still dogshit and choppy.
I don't believe both mediums will reach an acceptable consensus (in the eyes of mainstream) due to demographics. Like how almost all anime characters are either lolis, teenagers or young adults because they're pandering to otaku, teenagers and people who can't let high school go. People eat both of these up, so unless the producers and the middle men meddle with something, it's unlikely for both to sell for the better.
>In terms of storytelling, I'd say even something on the shakier side like Chobits is better than Steven Universe.
I didn't like Chobits when it came out, and that was some 17 years ago. It felt like it simply gone nowhere except for the occasional "haha its okay molesting a robot" joke. I don't even know how it got to air on TV in the first place, ratings were much more strict back then. It had a sort of cool concept that could be explored more throughly, but it felt very much wasted by mindless pandering. I'd say the average /co/ shlock would be far more entertaining.
But at least anime with a promising concept have a lesser rate of being Kubo'd and hack written than western animation. Corporate meddling is insane here.
Even when it's written by a hack, at least its more visually stimulating. Inital D turned into DBZ with cars past Project D and it was still dumb, albeit formulaic, fun. JoJo is still retarded, and that's good. If any cartoon gets trolled on the other hand it turns into dogfood because there's nothing there to hold it back up, not even animation. The latest "turn your brain off" seasonal shlock have decent animation, so at least it's visually stimulating and makes time go by fast, depending on how willing one is to eat it up.
It would be great to see a more mellowed out animation with a real backdrop (no sci-fi chuuni shit, although I love it) simply dealing with office drama and what not. With none of the "it's anime, so it has to have this token aspect" bullpoop.>>19777
It's fun to witness a trainwreck.
>>19777>Avatar: The Last Airbender
That definitely was lightning in a bottle. Animation wasn't always the best, but the fight scenes were serviceable and the aesthetic worked. Even Korra pales in comparison because two of the creators lost sight of what made the original good and the third didn't even come back. I do have to give credit where credit it due, Gumball has done some impressive things. It's not fully 2-d though and i'm pretty sure it's produced in Canada, or somewhere else outside of the states. The humor doesn't appeal too much to me and I've only seen clips, but it does impress me with its variety. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFJ5tiIJ94https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-4L_-fdxWs>If I really can't stand something anymore I'll just drop it.
Normally i'd agree with you, but this has been sevenish years of investment and at one point I really did see potential in it. A tiny bit of the fight scene animation in earlier seasons showed some effort. Beginning of this clip shows what I mean. Different angles, shots, panning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FOUfsELtMk
For the most part, this is shot reverse shot. It's even lamer than these two characters first fight if you've seen that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UkdLY6lgGQ
Mob Psycho 100, beginning of the season, totally insignificant fight for comparison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZth3IJr8fw>>19778>On the average, most western plots and premises are more unique and creative
Nah. I get what you're saying, but when you look at total volume, that's just not true. There's a sea of generic slice or life/harem stuff sure, but the bulk of anime with interesting premises it larger than the total bulk of western animation, especially in the more recent past. Typical anime, especially long running stuff, does tend to stick to formulas, but those formulas are more interesting than western ones like generic, monster of the week action show and every lull zo randumbz + rellatable comedy like pickle and peanut, we we bears or whatever, and diet teen titans lite to me. Shounen, ecchi and slice of life, are the worst offenders of being boring and indistinguishable, but watching them isn't painful like Steven Universe and Uncle Grandpa. Fuckin High School DxD isn't painful to watch. Being bored is better than being in pain to me. Digimon Tamers is better than anything on right now.
>On animation and style, anime still consistently ripoffs Disney
I wouldn't say they rip it off. They initially ripped off a specific type of Disney comic and went off from there to make their own thing that has a lot of variety. The way they actually animate things differs. As another guy has said.>American animation is characterized by very simple art and the animation itself lacks momentum: objects appear to move as if they lacked any mass and there is not a good distinction between solid and liquid objects as well, to me Disney characters look like they are made of gas when they move. >What I find impressive in some Japanese animation is the physical realism of movement, specially in films like Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away. After watching a ton of anime I my eyes now hurt when I watch Western animation. Yes, they have a lot of frames but these frames fail to actually generate believable movement. Anime does not have much movement but when they move they actually look like objects in movement. In western animation they look like liquid flowing from one part of screen to the other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_V38bye0Jshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e05lkiHVaZQ
Gaps only grown when you look at recent stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jEAP3fq2Ew>it's unlikely for both to sell for the better.
Don't care to be honest.>It had a sort of cool concept that could be explored more throughly, but it felt very much wasted by mindless pandering.
Maybe give it another chance. It did explore themes about romance and technologies impact on it, for better or worse. It systematically explored sub-topics and developed an overall narrative that left me thinking. The biggest problem to me was the rushed ending. Before I was either annoyed by or indifferent to pandering type stuff, but not only am I now desensitized, but seeing it is cathartic because I know that kind of stuff wouldn't fly over here. Maybe that's juvenile, but that's my mindset. >simply dealing with office drama and what not
Isn't that just Servant x Service?
There was this one guy who did seem to have decent chops, but he got sacked for trying to unionize nick animators. I don't know how badly that would fuck things up or if it would have improved things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fR6gLQ2C8
The dialogue sucks though.
I wanna condense my point as much as possible.
Look at what's airing now. Now look at the seasonal anime chart. Do that for every season, of every year, for 30+ years. There you go.
I randomly picked Hanamaru Youchien.
For the American one, hmmmmm, how about…. apple and onion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO49cDOIxxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsnxNdRFYLk
What about their ops?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnecMaTytT0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A9YzON11nw
I also looked at some truly bottom of the barrel stuff like Acchi Kocchi, that seemed comparable, but it's not average.
How good does it get? What's the highest quality anybody has reached? I don't really know where to start.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZz2njtQP2Y
I don't know, this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHlqmwI-Bd0
I didn't even look, this is just the first thing that came to mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9q8gUA20kg
For movie animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3Gm6q0qP8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJhpxYc_Uds
Tarzan does look very good though.
As for the star wars clip…>The character designs are ugly and simplified to the point of being human only by courtesy. The background art is flat and unconvincing. This is supposed to be a serious, dangerous fight. Instead we see a couple of semi human forms flit around like demented moths. The animation may be smooth but since it doesn't tell the intended story it is useless.
Happy 15th YN anniversary
Does anyone remember a guy called School Shooter posting music here? I can't find the thread and I think the videos are down (although that might just be cos "School Shooter" is completely unsearchable)
He goes by the name "Negative XP" now.
Wow, look at that. 5 of those threads already died.
guess i just want to be loved for reasons past "you're family", but the world doesn't seem to find me very appealing. whether online or off or even in my dreams most of the time.
Traditional vodkas are potato-based.
I want to own my own house! I should stop pussyfooting around and just get it, because I am already in a position to do so. I'm holding off because I think I can get a better deal if I wait. Well, that's true but it's a bit of an after-the-fact rationalisation. I feel trepidation about moving forwards with all of this because it's unknown territory for me.
Lady Geese Howard
She's an All-Starhttps://youtu.be/ikUjpm2-Lrk
I still remember when Kyoko ruined the cirno get