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 No.6134

>A Hikikomori on the other hand (abbreviated hikki) is someone who seals themselves inside their home and does not leave at all for any reason, generally for 6 months or more in the clinical definition. Some NEETs are hikikomoris, but not all hikikomoris are NEETs – for example, a hikikomori could work or take classes from home. Sometimes "Hikikomori" is used less formally to describe a person who very rarely leaves their home due to social anxieties, and this can go hand in hand with the isolation often brought about by the NEET lifestyle.

This is incorrect i think we need to clear up this misconception all hikikomori are NEETs having a job or receiving an education means you are still apart of society. The Japanese government describes hikikomori 引きこもり as those who do not work do not go to school and isolate themselves in their parents house in their rooms for 6 months due to mainly social and cultural triggers related to Japanese society and while NEETs are global hikikomori is mostly only a Japanese problem and there are only a few true cases overseas in the west due to the cultural differences between the east and the west. Also the verb 引く has only one k, and 引く is the Japanese word for pull and hikikomori means to pull inward or (Acute Social Withdrawal)

Video by a gaijin living in Japan who has researched hikikomori.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdTZBw5WkeU

If you have a difference of opinion that is okay this thread is meant to be a civil debate thread so admin please do not lock this thread.

 No.6135

>admin please do not lock this thread
damn, look at this guy knowing the admins intended culture

 No.6136

Institutions already alienate us, why should we care for their rigid definitions? I think there is a difference between NEET and Hiki but the Hikis themselves should define this. Considering the complexity and variation of humans at large I'd imagine there are gradients of hikikomori. I don't know where that line is between hiki and NEET but a ridged adherence to strict definitions only creates walled gardens, at least with things like this. Discussing what a hiki is isn't the same as something more concrete like physics.

 No.6137

>>6136
>I think there is a difference between NEET and Hiki

The only difference is one can be social while not contributing to society the other is isolated completely or nearly completely here is some more interesting info i found on some Japanese websites regarding hikikomori.

From Japanese Wikipedia.

引きこもり(引き籠もり[1]、ひきこもり、英語表記 hikikomori[2])とは、仕事や学校に行けず家に籠り、家族以外とほとんど交流がない人の状況を指す。現時点では、日本の厚生労働省はこうした状態が6か月以上続いた場合を定義としている

Acute Social Withdrawal (Withdrawal [1], Withdrawal English notation Hikikomori [2]) refers to the situation where people cannot go to work or school, stay at home, and have little interaction with their family. At present, the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare defines these conditions as having lasted for more than six months.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/引きこもり


引きこもりの定義と全国の引きこもりに関するデータ

厚生労働省では『仕事や学校に行かず、かつ家族以外の人との交流をほとんどせずに、6か月以上続けて自宅にひきこもっている状態』の人を引きこもりと定義しています

より詳しい定義は以下の4つです。

1. ふだんは家にいるが、近所のコンビニなどには出かける
2. 自室からは出るが、家からは出ない
3. 自室からほとんど出ない
4.ふだんは家にいるが、自分の趣味に関する用事の時だけ外出する (準引きこもり)


Definition of withdrawal and national withdrawal data

The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare defines withdrawal a person who has been withdrawing from home for at least 6 months without going to work or school and having little interaction with people other than their family.

The four more detailed definitions are:

1. I usually stay at home, but I go to convenience stores in my neighborhood
  2. It goes out of my room but not at home
  3. Almost never leave my room
  4. I usually stay at home, but go out only when I have an affair regarding my hobby (quasi withdrawal)

https://www.obatakazuki.com/hikikomori-genin



・15歳から39歳が対象
・下記状況のいずれかが半年以上継続している
・普段は自宅にいるが、近所のコンビニなどには出かける
・自室からは出るが、自宅からは出ない
・自室からほとんど出ない(準引きこもり)
普段は家に居るが、自分の趣味に関する用事の時だけ外出する(上記にあてはまる場合でも、「現在の状態のきっかけ」に統合失調症または身体的な病気と答えた人、自宅で仕事をしていると答えた人、「ふだん自宅にいるときによくしていること」で家事・育児をすると答えた人は除かれます。)

・ For 15 to 39 years old
・ One of the following situations has continued for more than half a year
・ I usually stay at home, but I go to convenience stores in the neighborhood
・ Exit from own room but not from home
・ Almost never leave my room (Semi- withdrawal)
I usually stay at home, but I go out only when I have an affair related to my hobby (even if the above applies, people who respond to the “trigger for the current condition” as schizophrenia or physical illness, work at home and those who answered that they are doing household chores and raising children because of "what they usually do when they are at home" are excluded and not regarded as withdrawal.)


https://hapila.jp/cause-social-withdrawal

 No.6140

NEET The acronym for (Not In Education Employment Or Training) The acronym NEET refers to those who have given up and refuse to attend school work or vocational training

Freeter フリーター

Japan's word to describe those who work part-time jobs with low pay and have a hard time earning a living.

Hikikomori 引きこもり

Hikikomori is a Japanese term when translated into English it means pulling inward being confined (Acute social withdrawal) it is Japan's word to describe those who have isolated themselves in their parents house refuse to attend school or work and stay in their bedrooms for very long periods at a time due to social and cultural reasons related to Japanese society (Generally 6 months)

Unemployed Person

A unemployed person is someone who is temporarily unemployed but still seeking out employment looking for a job and is willing to work

Self-Employed Person

A self-employed person is someone who is in the state of working for oneself rather than an employer. However even though they work for themselves they are technically still contributing to society



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