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 No.4264

I was thinking about Youtubers, Twitch streamers and people who get paid for basically being on the internet and doing something that a monkey could.
These people could easily qualify as NEET, right? They spend up to 8 hours or more a day playing videogames or vlogging or something and most of their income comes from their fans.
Yet nobody really bats an eye at them other than the occasional angry dude that gets way too bent out of shape over people getting money from fans rather than employers. But with NEETs there's a higher level of stigma, telling them they're parasites and that they need to work on themselves and conform. Is the difference really as subtle as simply getting money? Or providing a service, even if it has little to no effect on society and the person's community?
What makes the difference in the way a NEET and someone who turns their hobby and cult of personality into a "job"?
Also have any NEETs here attempted this? Would you?
Is it viable? etc etc

 No.4265

The difference is source of income. Those people are ideally self-sufficient. Nobody is forced to give them money out of some sense of obligation or becuase the government told them to. People chose to give it becuase they enjoy the service they provide. People see neets as parasities becuase they are given resources by people who don't really have as much of a choice in the matter.

 No.4266

>>4264
They are "entertainers" in some pervert way. They got famous in somehow, through their friends or a meme, and poof. It's either connection or luck. It's not always been like this, it just turnt into this mess when money got involved.

Ten years ago, if you said you have 10 000 subscripers on youtube (which was a lot back then) people would ask "That's a waste of time, making content for internet strangers" Now they'd ask how much money you can get from it.

 No.4267

people like us could never do the same because we lack charisma and personality. All those popular people on youtube are sociable and likable and if you are a zombie nobody would want to listen to the shit you have to say. Then also most popular youtubers have their own style and personality. SOmething that makes them unique and likable.

I noticed there are increasingly retarded people who would rather watch other people playing videogames than playing them themselves. I am also disgusted by those let's play videos. Whenever I get stuck in a game and watch for a walkthrough I get those trashy let's plays suggested instead. The ultimate perversion is people trying to monetize their spiritual diarrhea.

 No.4268

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>>4267
>charisma
Slightly off topic, but how does one gain charisma? Conversations? Small talk? Books?
Being born with it can't be the only way.

 No.4269

>>4268
How to win friends and influence people is a pretty popular book on the subject. Charism is mostly a lack of inhibition when talking to others, which some people are born with and others have to practice.

 No.4270

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>>4267
>I noticed there are increasingly retarded people who would rather watch other people playing videogames than playing them themselves.

It just feels less lonely that way, anon

 No.4294

>>4268
It's kinda the art of not giving a fuck. When people stress you out, you don't say what you want to say, you don't present yourself naturally (which is very off-putting), and the unpleasantness of your situation gets communicated so you can come off negatively.
Don't just be yourself, be yourself and say fuck it

 No.5649

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>>4264
>have any NEETs here attempted this? Would you?
I would but I'm too socially retarded and unlikable for fame

 No.5652

>>4267
>I noticed there are increasingly >retarded people who would rather watch >other people playing videogames than >playing them themselves.

It might have something to do with developers getting increasingly lazy/incompetent, and instead of spending time on optimizing their shit like they used to for 30+ years, they just rely on ever-increasing raw hadrware performance.

This, and the fact that we live in an age where most people slave away just to barely make enough to survive. There's no way these people could afford a PC that cost more than a decent car, only to become obsolete within a year anyway.

Don't be an elitist. There are some playthrough videos that are quite well done. Caption-based or no commentary, straightforward playing style, going through all small details, no self-promotion, no drama.

 No.5653

>>5652
And yes, I'm a retard as well for not knowing how to format quoted messages.

 No.5741

>>4264
We live in weird times.

 No.5847

>>5649
There are only two steps to becoming socially likeable.
1. Provide others with enjoyable and amusing reactions, making them feel as if their presence is enjoyed.
2. Never talk about yourself, ask lots of amusing questions, if asked provide very little and then spin the question their way.

 No.5851

>>5847
>Never talk about yourself, ask lots of amusing questions, if asked provide very little and then spin the question their way.
I fucking wish it actually worked that way.

 No.5857

because a NEET is too afraid to show their face or voice on the internet



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