/hikki/ - NEET / Advice

hikki with general social phobia and severe anxiety

Daily Reminder:

>Hikikomori: A reclusive individual who doesn't leave home/who barely leaves the house (and on very rare occasions such as living alone and needing supplies, if they can't get someone to deliver that for them). It's debatable whether a hiki can get a work or not, but it's possible to work from home without leaving it.

>NEET: Not in Employment, Education or Training. It doesn't matter what problems you may or may not have and how social you are, if you don't work, that's it.

>Freeter: A person who works on shitty and low-paid works just to evade becoming a wage slave, most of the times for being an asocial, or anxious person.

Well.. really, none of those really describe me at all. I can't really say that any of those really apply to me.

Probably the one I would choose to apply to myself, if I absolutely had to choose one of those, would be hikikomori, but this is still just so inaccurate..

>>1133
Former NEET who still lives with their parents, currently studying stuff in college.

>>1146
How would you describe you?

>>1133
Im a frito (the chip)

I'm pretty much a NEET. I do go to adult education once in a while, but it's pretty rare. I have way too much depression to go regularly.

Hiki trying to get back into Education and society in general.

Hikikomori. I just feel like there is no reason to do anything ever. So I just stay on my pc all day doing whatever I feel like. Is this depression? Like why would I get a job and work hard? I mean we all die so there is no reason to do anything other then what I want to do. Any advice for me?

>>1166
Yo, personally I agree. Most of the reason for working comes from either getting money to continue your life or the feeling of filling your time with something productive. It's easy to fall into a depressive spiral if you don't occupy your time with productiviy of some kind related to achieving your goals. I personally recommend that you spend your time on yourself. It's hard to be depressed when you know you are achieving your goals.

I personally go to work because not doing so would most likely cause a big commotion with my dad, who pay for my schooling and existence. I would actually rather not go to the college in going to at all, but I do so my dad keeps paying for me to survive.

>>1166
>>1167

Im the same, I only have the part time only because like my only IRL friend made me promise to do something to get out of the house occasionally. Its exhausting.

I haven't bothered to jump my car, so I've slipped back into the hikikomori lifestyle. I was already a neet, but now I don't leave the house(unless to get a package fron the doorstep).

>>1168
If I had someone to make promises I'd probably be able to escape the NEET existence. All life I had only been able to accomplish things because others were around. When they all disappeared so did my reason for doing anything. In fact I had a dream just last night about one of those people from back then. I'm aware that I am the exception and friends gone have long moved on. Condition deteriorated from isolation, now surely impossible to find new people.

Ahem, planning to be homeless in undetermined period of time, for now just NEET. But I'm not going to be homeless, I'll just starve to death.

Perhaps make a promise to something you don't want to disappoint. Maybe if it is even fictional?

I identify as hikki-NEET. Although I do leave the house more than most hikkis, it's usually to spend time with my grandma or see my small group of friends every few weeks or so.

>>1335
Hikkis DONT EVER GO OUTSIDE, thats what it MEANS. Stop trying to sound more sympathetic by using one groups terms incorrectly in order to describe yourself. Just call yourself a shut-in, it makes us all look retarded when people like you call themselves hikkis.

>>1336
But, I'm a so hikki! I just go outside for school xD

>>1337
nice 1337 post

>>1336
It's even funnier because I wrote what a hikikomori is just up there, but apparently people need more words. Here's the official definition by the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare:

>When a person finds themselves in the situation where they've been staying for more than 6 months in their house without leaving for neither work nor school, and practically without interacting with people outside their family circle.
>Cases where they sometimes go out for purchasing food/goods are also considered "Hikikomori".
http://www8.cao.go.jp/youth/suisin/pdf/hikikomori/s1-2.pdf

>>1337
Leet.
I remember when faggots here claimed they were neets because they were on vacations from school.

>>1337
Woah calm down hacker.

>>1336
>>1335
>I identify as hikki-NEET

hi im uboanon, and my gender identity is hikki-NEET. hi/nee/eet pronouns please.

>>1336
Maybe I should explain a bit better.
I don't leave my room regularly, much less my house. It's been like that for about a year. I only ever leave on the rare occasion my grandma absolutely needs me to do something, or if what few friends I have left are pestering me to come outside.

>>1337
YOU WASTED THE GET, MOTHERFUCKER

IT WAS A GIFT THAT WAS BESTOWED UPON YOU AND YOU THREW IT AWAY

Hikki, I want to get out of this lifestyle though.

I'd describe myself as a butterfly that's currently in its cocoon, having lived like a caterpillar beforehand. Also a NEET.

I don't leave the house.
Not that I mind it either way, I just have no reason. No place for me out there.

Student, but mostly in online classes and independent studies

I couldn't even tell you the last time I went outside. it's been months by now and before that even longer. Sometimes I got for a walk around my suburban neighborhood but that's barely anything. I stopped though. I don't want to be a NEET or a Hikki but I'm in a shitty position with no one to help me.

NEET is the only iffy kinda statement. I draw for money occasionally but its like $20 once or twice so I don't think it can count as a job.

>>1133
Formerly a hikikomori, I'm more or less a Freeter with anxiety issues now.

Currently a NEET with a bit of social anxiety around those I don't know

I have, for the longest time, wanted to be a voice actor of some sort. Cartoons, Games, Radio.. Heck, I could be the next Don LaFontaine.

>>1343
>Went outside, claims being a Hikki
Obvious bait is obvious. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt you are a Neet Top's.

>>2795
You have a nice voice? Or how do you train for that anon? Also curious on how to do that.

I used to be a hardcore recluse while at university - not leaving my dorm for months at a time, only going out occasionally to do shopping at a 24h store in the middle of the night. I never went to lectures and I was completely isolated from my flatmates. In a weird way, I got a kick out of knowing that if I killed myself I don't think they (or anybody else, I didn't stay in touch with my parents) would notice I was missing (unless I did it in my room and they could smell my rotting body).

I dropped out of uni in the second year (managed to pass first year despite never attending a single lecture), my mental health improved and I'm just a NEET now. I don't enjoy being NEET anymore and I'm hoping to find a job soon.

>>2903
I am basically the same as this. I am at university, but I don't actually go to any lectures or do any work. I only haven't quit because I get a loan to go, so for now I am basically being payed to shitpost all day every day.
I don't know what I'll do when I get kicked out.

I guess I'm a semi hikki. I only really leave the house for therapist appointment shit and the rare dinner at my grandparents when it's a birthday. No matter what the label it's complete shit, and I wish I wasn't so afraid of putting myself out the house. Only about 2 years into this life so maybe there's hope? I'm not even sure anymore

A Hikikomori.
I lost all motivation to become a member of society who's actually productive.
Everything outside my room makes me miserable.
Can only find happiness within isolation.

Since I posted this >>2747 I watched Welcome to the NHK for the first time and realized how I'm actually a Hikkikomori. It all sunk in. I've lived this way for nearly 3 years at this point. It's kinda hit me hard and my depression is getting even worse. I even crumpled up a application I was going to take up to a local shop. It was close by and everything. I feel like the realization just made it so much worse. I don't know how the hell I'm ever going to get out of here.

>>2916
Did you watch the whole show, because if you did you would realize the message it was trying to to get across was that if you really try you can change the direction your life is going in. The show was about how life will keep going on and while you're alive you should just try to be happy even if it means living on a farm for the rest of your days or being a traffic worker or working at a noodle shop. If you stay in your house and don't communicate with anyone though, you're not really living. It's a cowardly way of committing suicide and escaping reality. Why did you crumple the form? You're life can change, you just need to take the first step. If you're self-confidence isn't high, then a purpose, a job, is what you need to feel better.

>>1133

Not sure really. I do have a job, but it's from remote so I literally never leave my house. I order groceries online and walk in the park at midnight.

>>2917
I have like 3 more episodes to watch

>>2919
>>2917
I just finished the series and even still I feel nothing but suffering. I guess I'll get a job eventually if I try long enough but I haven't applied for a few days even though it feels like every day my dad is bothering me about new places to apply too. It's like I feel less confident and want to give up when he does. I have an interview next week but I'm not sure if I'll get it. I wish I could lay in bed and sleep for however many days it takes my dad to drag me out of my bed by force. I know I couldn't do that but god I wish I could. There's one thing motivating me right now(having someone I love) but at the same time I'm trying my best to ignore him so that I can run away. Not even sure where to go with this but figured I'd at least update on it.

Wish me luck guys.

>>2917
We watched totally different shows. Cause not only did I watch Welcome to the NHK but I also read the light novel. There is no happy ending in NHK and all it shows at the end is that life is no different for Satou after he got a part time job. He is still completely terrified of being outdoors for periods of times. His neighbor(sorry forgot his name) ended up being forced to be a farmer despite his real ambitions in life and the girl still self harms and barely did much in life after getting her GED(or whatever it is for japanese people). Not only does Satou and the girl lose close contact after she finish her GED but he barely ever gets to see his old next door neighbor outside the postcards he sends during holidays. Satou ends up being more alone than he was ever before. All that was different is now he doesn't have to worry about starving to death.

The series draws so much from the creator's personal life who is still a hikki holed up in his house and he is afraid to write anything new. He lives off the royalties of Welcome to the NHK and wishes he could change but he can't find the means to do so. He is paralyzed by his own anxiety and depression. Just like Satou.

>>2938
I remember how everything went to shit the moment he decided to jump off the cliff… actually, a bit before that.
Goddamnit, and people told me the thing ends well…

>>2938
Didn't read the LN but the anime leaves off on a pretty optimistic note. Kind of sucks that the LN ends so depressingly.

>>2938
Most of that stuff only happened in the novel. The show ends on a hopeful note.

I'm a NEET. Spring 2016 I had been working as a server at an Italian Restaurant. I was a horrible server and hated doing it. You have to remember too much on the fly and that is not my forte. I once told some Hindu's that what they wanted to order didn't contain beef… only to find out after they had eaten half of it that it did. Another time a lady looked over the whole menu and told me she wanted cheese lasagna. I go back to the kitchen and find out we don't serve cheese lasagna (now I thought it was weird when she ordered that because I had never seen it or had anyone order it before, but why would you look over the whole menu and then ask for something not on it?). It also stressed me out way to much, and I decided that I couldn't work somewhere that I constantly dread going to. I quit in February.

I lived the neat life for about 6-7 months and in October I finally got a job (after much stress and dragging my feet) at a Dollar store. Shitty, hated it. Then March of this year me and a friend get the great idea to drop everything and go to New Orleans to busk. I just stop going into work with no explanation.

Busking is making us no money, we are competing with full brass bands on the street corner and all he has is an acoustic guitar. I try to offer tarot readings and some simple energy work, but I have stiff competition as well. We give up on that and it turns into an extended vacation where we both blow through all of our savings. Now I'm back in my hometown with my parents with no want to get a job. I haven't even been back a week, and I don't know if it's just paranoia, but I can already feel the tension in my household since I'm jobless. I want to work with energy and the occult for a living. I understand it, I'm good at it, but i need to practice and study more. I don't think people really are taking me too seriously with this, or they don't believe it will work out for me. This is what I want though, I don't know how I will make it work but I just need time and I wish people understood that.

>>2916
Ive done that with job applications before. Or hidden them. Fall 2015 i enrolled in community college. I did so bad I didn't even look at the grades after the first semester, I just assumed I failed all the classes. I had also assumed that since I failed all of the classes I wouldn't be eligible for the classes I scheduled for the next semester. However I was wrong. I never went to any of the classes; I had already decided I wanted to quit. Then bills kept coming in the mail telling me I owed so much money for all the classes. Then notices saying my professors never saw me in class and I was going to get an auto-failure for never showing up. I hid them all so i didn't have to deal with them. I don't know why, I had the money in savings to pay them off, but it was all just too stressful for me and I pretended like they didn't exist.

>>2943
To me you seem like the kind of guy who likes to work on their own time and can't handle stress or responsibility very well. Let me be totally honest with you, knowledge of the occult is not a marketable skill. Literally nobody actually needs it. It's lower than knowing how to do magician tricks. You should be a writer. If you don't think you can write, learn how to because trust me, the occult can not give you a real job. If you were a writer though, you could indulge in whatever flights of fancy you want. If I could, I would be time-traveling secret agent, but that's not a real thing just like how wizards or demon summoners or whatever the fuck aren't real. Deal with reality, don't reject it.

>>2943
>I once told some Hindu's that what they wanted to order didn't contain beef… only to find out after they had eaten half of it that it did. Another time a lady looked over the whole menu and told me she wanted cheese lasagna. I go back to the kitchen and find out we don't serve cheese lasagna
Everyone makes mistakes like that, some are just more reluctant to admit it than others.

>>1133
>Curious: Would you describe yourself as more of a NEET, Hikikomori, or a very reclusive Freeter?



Hikikomori been one for 10 years almost 11.

Neet I'd say. I go out every so often and try to better myself, but it's hard due to low self esteem. I don't work so I'm Def not a freeter. I'd love a job…

Freeter. I've never been a 'true hikikomori' (6 months) but I was NEET once. Making money to appease my parents and get some money for vidya and snacks, and just scraping by, luckily not fired yet for my incompetence

Right now I'm a freeter but I found this board when I was a NEET who had panic attacks just leaving the house. I was that way for over two years and barely left my room at all. It's the most depressed and awful I've ever felt in my life, no purpose or meaning to anything, sleeping all day staying up all night, days and then weeks blending together. Just a nightmare but I could not deal with people or the outside world at all because my anxiety was extreme and I had no medication or therapy at the time. I still feel awkward and uncomfortable out in public to this day and relate heavily to people here. I still spend most of my time in my room but I have a job and go to college now. I still deal with depression and anxiety daily but it doesn't consume me like when I was a NEET trapped in my head 24/7.

>>1148
Same. I have all my classes(at the moment) online though, so I'm still a hikikomori.

Freeter.

My days consist of sleeping in until the afternoon, getting up and heading to my part-time job for a few hours then coming home and locking myself in my room and sitting on my computer until like 3-4am. On the weekends it's essentially the same, minus the going to work part. I only work to appease my parents, though they want me to get more hours or even go full-time but I dread the thought of such a thing. At most I'd consider a few more hours just to pad the day out some and buy myself some time. It's decent money for what I do and the job doesn't bother me that much. I'd be content like this but society will never be content with a mid-twenties guy still working part-time.

Yikes, some of the replies in this thread.
I'm straight up Hikiko mode, I only leave my house to attend classes.

I leave the house around once a year for the last few years, before a few times per year. Usually it's just for dentist appointments or mandatory government paperwork shit that needs to get done if I want them to stop billing me for stupid shit.

So all in all I've left the house maybe 30 times in the last 6 years. It's entertaining coming to boards like this and seeing all the fresh out of highschool/college teenagers think they are lost cause losers because they spent a year moping around home the year after they left school.

>>4585
What would you consider the point of no return in that kind of situation then?

A Hikikomori i've never had a job in the outside world and every time i try to reintegrate back into society i fail i'm just not compatible with society nor do i agree with many of society's rules and expectations i haven't been to the doctor in 5 years and if i were to go back i would probably be diagnosed with avoidant personality disorder. i've been isolated since 2007 and i don't live in the real world i avoid life through escapism because of the shitty hand i was dealt growing up and like i said up top every time i try to reintegrate back into society i fail there is nothing for me in this world except escapism and living in my room until i die.

>>4675
Godspeed, I'm rooting for you.
Hopefully you'll be able to escape that vicious cycle.

>>4687
>Hopefully you'll be able to escape that vicious cycle.


Maybe someday but i don't see that happening any time soon.

>>4585
Hurr, you actually take care of your teeth and think that you're a real hikikomori/NEET?