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 No.7735[View All]

Hey, has anyone heard about this?

>"LcdDem ver.0.030

>This is a “Yume Nikki” fangame.
>This isn’t “Yume Nikki”.

>To those know about/like LcdDem:

Please avoid talking about LcdDem as much as possible. Don’t say anything about it. "

Source: http://psiwolf.tumblr.com/post/48471399826/a-psa-from-koronba-lcddem-producer-psiwolfs

What do you guys think?
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 No.14787

>>14784
Post was nuked.

I had the Google Translated version open, but that's it.

If anyone was curious what the gist of the message was, here it is.

https://0bin.net/paste/y85eLIgEa6ybmK+3#FVdjcfKolmbeGgVO5c3GLMqwNABx8fF+PVozAlgjP-w

 No.14788

>>14787
That man, be it Skye or whoever else, is very determined on keeping their truth. They nuked even my Wayback Machine snapshot somehow. But that quick turnaround makes me feel like whoever they are, they are snitching on us.

 No.14789

>>14787
Oh, sorry, my bad. That post isn't nuked and is still available.

 No.14790

>>14789
Huh. It was definitely offline for a while. Glad it’s back now.

 No.14802

>>14787
If nothing, yup, now it's nuked.

 No.14803

Did anyone else notice a ton of songs getting privated or deleted? Wondering if it was one specific channel who just removed a lot of their work or just some coincidence of people removing some stuff they might not have particularly enjoyed anymore.

 No.14804

i really miss koronba

 No.14805


 No.14806

Fucking hell, I forgot to download the songs that were recovered from his old Myspace account. Does anyone have a copy of them?

>>14805
>>14803
Apparently, this is what happened to that channel
https://ameblo.jp/koronba0/entry-12618071401.html

 No.14807

>>14806
https://youtu.be/oZpb-1jcxgo
It has been uploaded to another channel.

 No.14808


 No.14809

>>14806
Appreciate you linking the blog post, cleared up a lot of confusion from me!

 No.14810

>>14806
So you need 15 videos (or 3 separate claims) to delete a channel. Good to know.

 No.14812

>>14806
So who is the "Koronba Defense Force"? I don't think he's koronba. He is not the one who can claim copyright on koronba's songs.

 No.14813

>>14811
A group of people dedicated to wiping Koronba's existence off the internet per his request. The bitter rivals of the archive channels.

 No.14818

The guy who made the remix of the song that the kotemusob account uploaded and removed has an ask.fm now. Could someone ask him if he could upload the original somewhere?
https://ask.fm/thenewlimee

 No.14819

So what's with non-japanese people asking archive channels and uploaders to rename or delete Koronba's music? Go to anything Koronba related, sort comments by newest and you're likely to find at least one comment requesting a title change or takedown. The Japanese don't seem to make a big deal out of it. Is it just people who recently found out about Koronba through that one "Don't look for Koronba" video someone did a while back?.

 No.14824

First of all, it is true that koronba tweeted that he wanted his name hidden, which can be found in the web archives.
And it's also true that the tweet and the deletion of several sites and soundclouds were contemporaneous.
And fans at the time were loyal to that wish.
There weren't as many of them as there are now, and they already had the files that were distributed.
But many of the fans today are 13-18 year olds and think the above statement is a fake.
The new loyal fans are also children as well and are repulsed by each other.
The old fans are no longer active and no longer talk about him.
At any rate, this is the situation in Japan today.

 No.14825

>>14824
I kinda agree on current K-fans being in the younger generation but I think most of them aren't actually that dumb and know their facts, I believe most of them simply don't care.

 No.14826

>>14825
It's all conjecture. Consider that most of these younger fans discover these songs via YouTube recommendations and simply only understand the situation from what they have seen in the YouTube comments section, which is usually wrong or has some misinformation. Not all young people are apathetic, but the YouTube comments sections are usually in disarray.

I do not think things are much different for the Japanese fans.

 No.14827

>>14825
Indeed, there are many people who know all about it and don't hide his name.
They argue that it doesn't matter because he's already retired.
Some of them are rebelling against those who seek to hide his name.

 No.14828

Does anybody know any composers who make music like koronba's? Most people seem to copy his UTAU/vocaloid style but not the IDM-ish style from rain and the other two albums.

 No.14830


 No.14831

>>14828 >>14830
Sorry
I forgot to add this
https://youtu.be/oLyVhxjFvEA

 No.14835

Fuck KDF

 No.14844

>>14835
Fucc you :)

 No.14848

>>14827
>Some of them are rebelling against those who seek to hide his name.
Yeah, because it's fucking retarded. You're on the internet, you made something people like. Expecting people not to do everything they can to archive what you did is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
Like, does the "Barbara Streisand Effect" not exist in Japan, or what?

 No.14849

>>14848
I think it's a lot more retarded to be the one who thinks he's a special person who knows unusual music and takes pleasure in it.
There's so much better music out there than xx, so why are you obsessed with it?
Is stalking common and smart behavior in your country?

 No.14850

>>14849
Regardless of the moral implications, it could be argued that the KDF's actions in taking down reuploads is doing more harm than good. All they are doing is spurring more people into reuploading and sharing songs. If your opinion is that koronba's music should be forgotten, it would be more productive to allow it to fade into obscurity in it's time rather than encourage people like KDF to create ill will within a small but currently alive group of fans. Expecting these videos not to be continually reuploaded is unfortunately misguided.

 No.14851

>>14849

>>14850
This. I don't know the full story or any of this KDF stuff, but koronba saying to not talk about LcdDem and trying to get rid of his work is probably a big reason people still talk about it or him.
By prohibiting it, he cements it in peoples' minds, creates more mystery and false value around it.
It's psychology and economics shit. Scarcity creates value.
Companies use this principle all the time and create artificial scarcity to increase the perceived value and demand for their product.
The only outcome is to put attention on it and make it more valuable.

In a more personal sense, if some art touches me, and the artist tries to prohibit it and wipe away its existence, then I will just want to hold on to it tighter. When it affected me, it became a part of me, a precious experience that possibly even changed the course of my life.
You just can't expect someone to let go of that because you tell them to. If there's a risk of that affecting work to disappear, then there will just be more effort put into maintaining its existence.

Also just as a side note, while I played LcdDem a long time ago (and I don't think I was aware of all this stuff until after I had played it), I never looked into koronba's music, but now seeing this stuff got me to look it up and damn… funny enough, I immediately love it.

Anyway… The situation is quite unfortunate.

 No.14852

>>14850
>>14851
You misunderstood me. I'm not supporting KDF.
I can't agree that people who aren't rights holders should remove it.
All I want is for them to get bored. You guys are right, I think KDF is a bad idea.
On the other hand, I'm also not positive about uploading it.
Well, I can't say for sure, because maybe that's what xx is trying to do, to get people talking about it like that.
I'm just going to follow xx's wishes.

 No.14853

I think the opinions people have of his work and what to do with it are the same today as they are seven years ago.

>>7741

>>7760

The influx of new people hasn't changed anything.

 No.14856


 No.14857

The fact that this thread from fucking 2013 still gets comments as recently as 3 days ago is truly amazing. Koronba was a fool for believing people would just stop talking about him.

 No.14858

>>14857
He was either a fool or a genius. I like to believe the latter.

 No.14859

this is ridiculous, i think you guys are getting ahead of your self's

 No.14860

>>14859
Anon, please elaborate, what do you mean? Who were you talking to?

 No.14861

>>14858
I believe the former

 No.14864

唐突で申し訳ないのですが、ころんばさんが活動を辞めた後に活動していた可能性があるアカウントを見つけました
https://twitter.com/ll73874743

 No.14865

>>14864
その人は違う
もうちょっと調べてから書き込んでください

 No.14868

>>14864
Fans today are all idiots with this level of intelligence.
There are posts on this board condemning xx's behavior, but if anything, don't think the fans are far more brain-damaged than they are.

 No.14869

The long time noise music creation and the use of lsd made him unfortunately suffer from neurasthenia and delusions of persecution

 No.14870

Does anyone know if koronba is still active on social media or something?

 No.14871

>>14870
Hello newfag, next time try reading the thread or doing a quick five-minute google search before posting

 No.14872

just found out that nankanohito participated in this, posting this here for archival purpose, even though it's not really xxxx-related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa08C7IemWk

 No.14883

Anyone here saved Fuzuki's font ? Can't find it anywhere anymore

 No.14886

File: 1604347635559.png (915.12 KB, 1920x1079, missing.png)

Koronba koronba koronba

 No.14887

>>14886
This your fanart?

 No.14891

Not sure if anyone has found this out yet, but on this website it says that 夏毛 is Sakamotonorok. It is a wiki though, so take it with a grain of salt.

https://w.atwiki.jp/utauuuta/sp/pages/4095.html

 No.14898

>>14857
Recently, a fan of koronba's (@x0o0x_) got popular. Their video of a nameless song is recommended to a lot of people on youtube. When they see x0o0x's covers of koronba's songs, they ask, "where's the original? wtf?" and then someone else gives them the whole speech about koronba. I think that's the cause of new people's interest.
Recently, x0o0x got 6 million views. (https://twitter.com/x0o0x_/status/1328308563718987782?s=20)
I think a large part of why people are still talking about koronba is because, as much as they hate it, their music was influential and even when his fans try to make themselves obscure (x0o0x doesn't title their songs) the koronba "style" is just too good to remain undiscovered.



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