/og/ - Other Games

It came out. It's on discount until the 27th.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/368340/CrossCode/

Am I the only one here whose played it? Come on, it's fuckin fantastic. Torrent it or something if you have to. I want to know what you guys think. Anybody with any interest in action rpgs should play it.

It’s fucking awesome, legit one of the best game I’ve played in a while, the story can get a little bit cheesy sometimes, but overall it’s really cool game. 9/10

>>5274
It's good to see someone else like it. Surprising since /v/ isn't into it. I really want to know where this game lies on the scale of, "retro graphics". Also, I've seen people say the game has a tumblr artstyle and i'm interested in knowing where they're coming from. If this game is bad, I wonder how one guy or a small team would go about making a good one.

>>5275
It actually garnered a bit of traction on /v/ a while ago, although it fell off the radar quickly. It's a pretty sweet game, but visually/stylistically it's a bit overdone, but it's at least well crafted if anything.

>>5275
>I really want to know where this game lies on the scale of, "retro graphics"
This is a meme, it doesn't matter. All that matters is "does it look good?".

>tumblr artstyle
That's probably in reference to the character portraits. I don't want to list all the features, but if you compare them to a generic tumblr drawing you can see the similarities.

>If this game is bad, I wonder how one guy or a small team would go about making a good one.
Do you think it's bad? If not then it doesn't matter. Try not to gauge quality on the opinions of one specific community, especially one where everyone copies each others opinions like /v/. Anyway, you like Yume Nikki right?

>>5277
>meme
I wouldn't say so. Something like fez or undetale being praised for its graphics is a problem. As for the character portraits, everybody keeps posting the older, shitier versions for some reason. I don't know. I want a real explanation or a diagram or something so I can know what should be avoided.
I think the way other people sees things is important. I don't want to be the guy that likes Adam Sandler movies. If i'm going to spend time on something, i'd like to know its true value.
>you like YN, right?
What does that have to do with it?

>>5275
It does look "retro" to some degree, the shading and colors are distributed in a similar way to what old hardware would allow, it's good to note not all pixel art is instantly retro, the term became a buzzword to the point it doesn't mean anything anymmore.

I can confirm the portrait art looks EXTREMELY tumblrish, just browse the art tag in tumblr and you'll see, personally I don't like it, but the person behind it can actually draw, unlike Undertale's author.

Undertale graphics aren't retro, they are just outdated, simplistic and minimalistic to the bone, I mean, if you go to the Atari era, you'll see a couple messy pixels with one color could represent a person, Atari games are great and fun to play that doesn't mean it looks good or the graphics age well.

Both games are considered retro, yet if you compare UT's sprites with these, you'll easily notice this is a superior technique, character design is superior too, UT's MC design reduces to "average person with shirt, pants and shoes", it looks directly inspired from a random dude on facebook.

/v/ used to love Yume Nikki, but after it got a Steam release they hate it, yes it's a hipster circlejerk.

>>5278
>Something like fez or undertale being praised for its graphics is a problem
Why is that a problem? Who's it harming? If people like Fez's graphics then they're allowed to give them praise. It's a pretty game, it doesn't matter that it's not copying an older style or that it "didn't take enough skill". The same principle applies to Undertale, though for all the moaning people do about it getting praised for it's graphics, I've never actually seen anyone do it. Maybe it's just the places I hang out, but it seems to me like that idea was made up by the people who moan about it.

>I think the way other people sees things is important. I don't want to be the guy that likes Adam Sandler movies.
So in this metaphor the reason you dislike Adam Sandler is not because you think his films are bad, but because it's uncool to like them? If the popular perception matters more than the artistic vision, then why even bother trying to make something new? If all that matters to you is /v/ thinking you're cool then your game will be nothing but an amalgamation of other games they like, which is pointless since those games already exist. Obviously I'm taking what you said to the extreme, I'm just demonstrating why the principle you're following is ridiculous.

>If I'm going to spend time on something, I'd like to know its true value.
There's no such thing as a "true value" to art. Art exists to be enjoyed by humans, so it's value is subjective. It's your time, so you should use it to make a game that is valuable to you, not other people.

>>you like YN, right?
>What does that have to do with it?
You said "If this game is bad, I wonder how one guy or a small team would go about making a good one". Sorry if you meant an actual method to follow, I'm not good with subtext but the way you started the sentence with "if this game is bad" made it sound like you were stuck for examples of good games made by few people (and were therefore basing your decision about whether small teams can make good games only on this).

>>5280
It's less about other people's perception of me and more about myself. I think the quality of a person has too much of a parallel with the things they like to just be a coincidence. People are always eager to reject that line of thought and I get why, but I just can't. I'm just so much more likely to enjoy the company of somebody that prefers Frankenstein over Twilight. I'm probably not going to like people into pop-rap either. It's hard to explain in words, but I just feel it everyday.

Not only that, but I've been thinking about making something of my own. I don't want to be an Adam Sandler or a Phil Fish. Coming to appreciate and understand, "higher", things is like a form of self-improvement to me. I wont stop enjoying things just for other people, but i'd like to be aware of their faults.
>>5279
I've never actually used Tumblr except for a few specific people's pages. I'm seeing a lot of thick outlines, accentuated, bulbous noses and lips, pastel colors and eyes that are too close together. Would you say that's accurate?