Played this one awhile ago.
While I wouldn't exactly agree with you about it being the second-best RPG maker game, I'd certainly say it was one of the better ones.
I like how it didn't only feel surreal and atmospheric, but it felt like the game's world had its own set of rules logic in certain regards. The soundtrack was pretty neat as well.
Anyway, here's a download link for those interested:http://www.mediafire.com/?78p4txg7b0e0dxs
What would you say is the second-best RPG Maker game?
Hmm… my #1 RPG maker game would probably be either Yume Nikki or Corpse Party -Rebuilt- (a fan-remake of the original, PC-98 Corpse Party), so unless I decided to consider them tied for first place, I guess my second best could be considered one of those.
Corpse Party Rebuilt can be found here, for anyone interested:http://www.memoriesoffear.com/games_corpsepartypc98/index.html
Another one that was pretty good is Dhux's Scar. That one's a more of a traditional RPG in its gameplay, though its cast and gameplay are notably different in a few ways, such as its main character, who's a weak merchant who needs to use items to fight reliably, and also comes off as a greedy jerk at times. The plot was also fairly interesting, if a little odd at points.
Here's a link for Dhux's Scar, if you're curious:http://rpgmaker.net/games/1492/
I wouldn't consider Off worse than any of those games I mentioned though; they're all kinda different in some notable ways, so I'd think a lot of it comes down to preference.
Oh fuck I loved this game. Really great soundtrack and atmosphere, yeah.
There are 3 endings to unlock, but I was lazy and only got two of them.
Why is the text so blocky when I try to run this game?
I'm having the same problem. Running it in AppLocale didn't work.
It's some issue with the game file itself. If you zoom in on the screenshots both I and the TC posted, you'll notice we had the same issue.
No easy way to fix it far as I'm aware, so you're probably better off ignoring the issue.
I don't see any blocky text in your screenshot.
Well, what I saw while playing was both the text looking somewhat blocky and the spacing being odd (such as with the "I'd" and "me" in my screenshot).
If what you have is different though, how about you provide a screenshot so I could see what it is?
Try finding the font in the game files and replacing it with a more readable one? When I played it the font was incredibly difficult to read but I was lazy and just bore through it.
Well, I don't know how to screenshot, but something is definitely wrong with the text. The letter s looks like the number 9, for instance.
Nevermind, it turns out I just needed to install the text files.
Ah, glad you found the issue!
Wow, I finally got around to playing this game and wow, just wow! ;v;
I'd like to post that in December the translation team updated again to version 2.0 correcting some mistakes and errors and including an Easter egg.
The new version 2.0 can be downloaded here:http://www.2shared.com/file/q5LfIihi/Off_translation_V_20.html
and I should also mention the team posted a bunch of good goodies like tracks that didn't make it to the OST and Mortis Ghost's translated sketches. You can find the links towards the bottom of this thread's page:http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Fan/Games/OFF-by-Mortis-Ghost/page/3/
and here's the link for the OST as well:http://www.rpg-maker.fr/index.php?page=ost&id=18
(click the link with .rar in it)
the true ending though
the true ending
Oh yeah wanna add- (words words to avoid spoilers on the front page words words)The Judge represents the level of conviction The Batter feels toward accomplishing his murder-suicide. The final decision you make is a matter of whether you decide to follow through with the suicide part, and end all existence for yourself (turn your life OFF) or continue on your pitiful existence without your wife and child. Seeing as The Judge changes his feelings about The Batter's mission at the last second, The Batter himself regrets what he's done. Maybe The Batter doesn't even exactly represent the man who carried out the murder-suicide but is an aspect of his psyche just the same as The Judge
Anyway this game is great and I'd love to hear more thoughts on it
Well, I've always thought about other stuff/ theories (Theory time, here we go!)
1- The guardians, Queen, Hugo and co. are all dead, actually, except for the Batter, which is trying to forget about them, since there is not anything to live for now. Maybe he's even on a coma, considering the game over theme (Stay in your coma). It not only explains the ghosts (sceptres) appearing everywhere, but also explains why the Queen and Hugo disappear when defeated/killed. The Elsens are how The Batter viewed his workplace, and are people he barely knew before the incident that possibly took their lives. This also explains their weird ways of living, the burnt/fired forms (work-related stress) and why they all look the same. Zacharie/Zachary could be how he views himself, or how his mind sees it as a game, or something that techinically does not exist. The guardians could have been people/bosses he knew, that could've been dead. Somehow, this makes everything about them a little more disturbing than they are. The reason why The Batter is well, The Batter, is because the man loves baseball, which also explains why the world map is somewhat shaped like a baseball field. The Judge/ Pablo could be a part of him that does not want to "let go" or that is so used to their presence that he does not believe they aren't actually real. It also explains why The Batter is the Purifier…
I could be wrong, though.
2- What guarantees you, that when choosing the Judge's ending
that he is right? What guarantees you that The Batter wasn't right and that he was evil
? Was The Batter's murder of Hugo a way of freeing him, since he was left alone on a cold room, dying of what seems to be an illness (Well that is how I see it.)
? You know what? I love this game like I love Yume Nikki. It has atmosphere, memorable characters, and leaves you to ask a plethora of questions afterwards and make a bunch of theories.
Didn't it imply very strongly that the guardians were nice at first but became corrupt? I don't know, the game seems pretty straight forward.
The Batter believed the world to be impure, so he decided to destroy it.
I wish the spectres were explained, though. I think there was, in one of the books in the library, a line about how the Queen sent the ghosts to destroy her own land? So that's another reason why the batter would kill her.
Are you thinking of this when you say that?
If you overlay all the unreadable texts they make a readable document about the guardians and the queen. Because based on this it only mentions Japhet being good natured then "souring" as seen in the game. I believe all three guardians have some form of goodness in them (even Dedan in some way)
I always took the game to relate that Hugo was one one in the coma and that at the "Batter end" Batter (as his father) after going through/defeating his wife (he may or may not have literally killed her) shut off his son's life support.
Though how all of that relates to the guardians I haven't quite worked that out yet.
I think the game takes place in Hugo's imaginary world and the people all represent Hugo's personality. When we get to the room, for a while The Batter steps into the shoes of Hugo and that's why they're nice then, because that's the way Hugo sees them. Like >>2224
said I think Japhet was the only one that changed, or at least Hugo and/or The Batter's perception of him changed
Sounded a bit different than what I expected to hear.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-
Here's what I hear when playing OFF
The style of the game resembles Earthbound in some ways. Some of the music, the way the characters were designed. It all falls into perspective.
10/10 I am satisfied by this game.
That's the in-game loop version, yes. What I showed in >>2228
is the full version.
I've been blasting it every time I had the chance to with HLDJ.
kids these days don't know the first thing about good music
I finished this game way too fast and I still hunger for more.
I sure hope that doesn't become underaged-girls-chan.
OH NO NOT HERE TOO
You might notice this thread was started long before OFF got tumblr crazy, so if you're complaining about that you're kind of a retard.
That's alright, you can't please everyone.
I'd probably go with Not Safe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etEOUhHim64
I really love the creepy ambiance of that one.>>2261
I don't see why a few annoying fans should change your opinion on the game. The game's still of the same quality regardless of the size and general likability of the game's fanbase.
but most of you fags are probably from there seeing how the majority of this site are fujoshit landwhales
OFF fandom ruined forever
you know how this stuff goes
If no one knew about anything ever, this wouldn't be happening.
there's a point at which too many people know about something. it's not the concept itself that bothers me, it's just that the quality of discussions surrounding the game dwindles. as with anything
I really don't think it's a the amount of people who know about it that effects the quality of a discussion so much as the particular people participating in the discussion.
In this thread, all the posts seems pretty decent, aside from a couple of the recent posts making a big fuss over the game's popularity on Tumblr.
Wouldn't it make more sense to ignore the apparently stupid interactions happening at completely different places and use this thread for actually discussing OFF? I think >>2257
had the right idea.
hipster as fuuuck
But seriously, if other people have that much of an effect on your enjoyment of something, then you really
need to take a step back. If it means so much to you, then why don't you try improving the quality of discussion?
Oh, right, it's better to just start up with "wahhh all you other people who like it now have ruined it for everyone" because that
certainly makes for some high-quality discussions.
Face it, when something is put on the Internet where anyone with a computer can see it
, then it may become popular. Not everyone is going to have the most intelligent or thought-provoking contributions, but to be fair, it's not like your complaints are improving things in the slightest. If other people have that much of an effect on what you like, then try being productive instead of derailing conversations with your whining.
It'd probably be The Meaning of His Tears (Fourth boss theme) in my opinion. I really liked Grey Pencil too because of the ambiance it gave.
The Meaning of His Tears:
Not that guy, but it is a little frustrating because when you do put effort into something you like because it's really good, it's irritating to see your effort or other good efforts drowned out by the vast stupidity, and then watching it become well known because of said stupidity and that's all most people who havent played/seen/read the thing associate it with.
Obviously it's expected liking something on the internet oh no how dare we complain, but, again, frustrating.
So what if Hugo WAS The Batter? Like The Batter is an older version of Hugo from the monkey future? He came back to turn the world off because it was a better fate than the future he came from. Thoughts?
What effort are you talking about? Did you yourself personally contribute something that went into making Off? [Basically, I don't see how being a fan of something requires any effort or some sort of reward for liking it before other people.]
And despite what you seem to believe, people don't usually shy away from something because of stupid fans. The reason why Off is so popular is because people play it, like it, and then tell others to play it. That might draw in some idiots, true. But I've seen the game mentioned in various places online. It's always been "wow this game is great/cool/crazy/&c., you should check it out"; not once have I seen "the people who like this game are dumb, never play it". If something really is worth checking out, then it will be judged on its own merits and not by the people who talk about it.
>>2273>The reason why Off is so popular is because people play it, like it, and then tell others to play it.
That's not true, face it, the reason why off is popular is because it's the fashion now, anons ITT are kinda obsessed with tumblr so to speak… It's like the new homestuck for example
Sorry, I am not so good with words. I guess I meant promotion / fandom related aspects. Also I'm sorry you thought I was implying that I need a reward, I don't really see where you got that.
> people don't usually shy away from something because of stupid fans
No, they do. MLP, Hetalia, and Homestuck are a few good examples I can think of where this applies.
I think you are simply wrong and that kind of thinking only causes drama when we could be just liking the game together. Sure, there are probably people who have decided to play this game because they saw a picture on tumblr or something, but if they went to play it and enjoyed it and decided to make fanart of it and post it on their own tumblr or just talk about it or whatever else does not make them inferior fans to you. No one just draws fanart because it's trendy. They do it because they are fans of the game
>>2277>No one just draws fanart because it's trendy.
that delusion. this is the basis of tumblr. faggot hipsters sucking each other off in a sea of trends. also, feminism.
it's just really, really bad. tumblr in itself is a great resource for finding art, though.
How do you know they're "obsessed with tumblr"? Do you have any evidence for this statement or are you just making sweeping generalizations based on nothing?>>2275
For all 3 of those, you could easily argue that even without the crazy fans they'd still be looked upon negatively because they're just not that great.
Just read mr. cool anon, they assume the stupid off shitstorm with tumblr, and it's not, it's everywhere. I must recognize it's the big one yes, and I just noticed a post having off and yume nikki at the same level of cult games.
I like the game but Off fandom can suck my sheng long dick.
Look, I think we can all agree that the OFF fanbase could never, ever possibly get that bad. It's just not possible, especially given that the game is over six years old. It'll die down, you're all just fussing about nothing.
oh, are you sure?
Such a coincidence here's another one just now, so you can see, look at those reblogs anonhttp://hyperinuyasha.tumblr.com/post/49971198814/a-post-about-games-with-cult-followings
The fanbase is pretty damn obnoxious already, honestly. A lot of the most obnoxious ones I know came in through the homestuck fandom - they seem equally split between OFF and Dangan Ronpa.
THIS TUMBLR, THIS GUY, WOW.
Ohmygod, 97 notes
?! OH NOOOOO
(I looked and not even half of those were reblogs; plus, it looks like all the people who reblogged it also liked it so that pushed the note count up. If all of like 50 people is supposed to be proof of how the tumblrlove for Off is spiraling out of control then you're really
grasping at straws here.)
(Also I didn't read the post.)
>>2287>omg only xx reblogs stop crying
That's not the fucking point.
Sorry for not being a hipster tumblr science anon like you, and by the so technical detail of the reblogs/posts/likes/cuntsucks/whatever you have lost the point of my post:
THE CONTENT, and this is just ONE post.
At the very least OFF is a game.
see >>2284 the post implies Off is better than Yume Nikki
and? Who cares?
*crycry* people have different opinions then I do, I'm going to complain about it. It wasn't even that much of a difference.
OFF is a super fun game
it's just gotten super popular at the moment because people in the Homestuck fandom have nothing better to be doing this summer since Hussie stopped updating. If this means I can get more art of OFF then cool, I don't care who's into this game, I really really don't.
This is whole argument is really retarded but then Uboachan's become kind of a cesspool for stupid arguments these days in before summer shit
This discussion is just as bad as the shitposters on tumblr. Those sorts of people move onto other stuff eventually. It's pointless to complain. Yeah, a lot of people(including myself) think all the yaoi shit is stupid and degrading to a stylish and interesting game, but bitching about dumbasses over actually discussing the game just puts you on the same level of stupid.
On another note, I think OFF and Yume Nikki are great for different reasons.
I think the whole point of this topic was>off fanbase is very stupid
You said the S word
A big fanbase is awful because big fanbases are always awful, but MLP and Homestuck? They're special.
Oh no a .5 difference TIME TO GET MAD
>>2296>Implying that's true
Fuck off offtard
It's completely true. MLP and Homestuck are extremely awful, surely you know this?
I'm talking about the 0.5 difference
that's extremaly offensive…
more like Yume Shitty
People, people, let's calm down here. No point in start a fight over something stupid.
I agree with literally everything you've said.
I enjoy browsing the OFF tag on tumblr for new art, occasional game theories, and funnies so I really haven't seen much of the "bad side" except for the shipping, but that's almost inescapable because it's the internet and you can't stop people from doing anything. Still it's not that hard to ignore these things if it bothers you that much.>>2293
All fanbases have stupid fans in them somewhere why would OFF be any different?
Regardless this thread wasn't made to bicker about Tumblr in, it was made to discuss OFF the game made by Mortis Ghost and it's sad seeing the thread degenerate into what it is.
Seems the only time there's activity on Uboachan is when there is bickering
>>2306>haven't seen much of the "bad side" except for the shipping
How about the people who don't like the game and have to see this shit everywhere
Yeah now we've just gotten into the dumbest trolling imaginable.
Doesn't this place have moderators?
See how nice and civil the thread was back in 2012
Just came this week, actually.
calm down u german bitch go make sanwiches for shinji
Just when I thought the autism couldn't grow stronger.
Both spammers have been given a warning ban.
Keep Ubuu~~~ clean
holy crap what
I found this post, which shows a thing on phrases (mostly a mistranslation).
Now this changes so much things, answers some things, confuses the hell out of me and opens a heapload more of questions that I am not even kidding.Such as holy hell, if The Batter and The Queen ain't human, then what they are? Also headcanon: The Batter may be one of the Elsen. Or the Elsen are based on him. The Bad Batter may be nothing more or less than his burnt form. Just compare them burnts (Pastel and Calvary) to the Bad Batter.
But goddamn, I am pouring way too many thoughts on a single game maybe?
Wow, that is very interesting. Definitely changes my interpretation of the game somewhat. Gotta say, I'm pretty curious to see what new theories people will come up with now that that particular mistranslation has been brought up.
All I gotta say is that I can't wait till version 2.1 comes out. I've replayed this game twice but I am all up for a 3rd or 4th time if need be.
Shit man, everything we believed was a lie
I was watching an Off stream earlier; someone posted this .gif in chat and I thought it was pretty keen so I'll share it with you guys.>>2409
Complaining about Tumblr did more damage to this thread than Tumblr itself, can you please
get the fuck over Tumblr already.>>2408
Version 2.1? What's that gonna have? (fingers crossed for some big fixes…)
Haha I love gifs people make of Elsen becoming burnt here have another
As for 2.1 Mordis dug up some photoshop files for some game things and because of that it's easier to translate things like some books in the library (that had relevance to the story) due to the clearer picture. There's other reasons as well.
You can read the whole thing here: http://ridiculously-dilettantish.tumblr.com/post/48947719407/a-big-announcement-to-the-off-fandom
Fuckery is everywhere. You cannot escape them.
They can't be reasoned with.
They can't be bargained with.
They don't feel pity over your poor game, remorse over pairing two characters that just interacted or fear over your Ilovedthisgaemb4u attempt.
And they won't stop, EVER, until the fanbase is DEAD by EXCESS of FUCKERY.
I did this also. Doesn't contain fuckery, just my speculations over backstory.http://pastebin.com/w3nbHM3f
I'll be back.
>thread beings, discussion about Off>people start complaining about Tumblr (instead of continuing the discussion)>complaints derail thread, discussion stops>some people decide to look past it, discussion slowly begins>one link to a Tumblr post from the main translator of the English version>people complaining about Tumblr (instead of continuing the discussion)
HMM I WONDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS TIME
For anyone too busy being butthurt over Tumblr to read that post from the main translator of the English version:
–English reconstructions of the various images in the game that couldn't be translated into French because they (like some of the zone 2 library books
) were visually incomplete; they have access to the original photoshop files, the source texts, and the fonts and can faithfully recreate them in English
–An .exe to install the game and the font files
–"Properly looping sound files!"
–Not mentioned in the post, but hopefully some more bugfixes and translation error corrections
Getting those images translated is something I'm definitely
looking forward to!
>even worse than homestuck's
they are the homestuck fanbase you stupid fuck, that's the whole reason the game got so popular
it's one samefag saging the thread and whining about tumblr, notice the allcaps in his sage post
I am waiting for the new translation. I wonder how many things will change accordingly.
Can't we have peace? What happened ubuu?
That's actually true
I lol'd my organs
Idiocy and self-entitlement happened, that's why. That's the truth. It's funny to see people rage with Iluvdisthingb4usoimsuperiorfyi even if that is a retarded argument. Yes, this applies ever since that YN project showed its face.
And back to the fucking topic,
I find it funny that everyone goes like "HOLY SHIT" at the whale enemy in Zone 2, but forget about the Green dopefish in Zone 1 that is acessible by stepping on a circular pad at the Pentel Farms (the part where they explain about metal and you have to purify the barns)
I don't know what's going on in here so I'm just going to ignore it and say I like this game, but especially love the world. I love rules and how shit works and can't work, so I especially appreciate the elements and stuff like that.
i often wonder if mortis ghost was making reference to Dali's idea of baseball as a metaphor for life? Dali was going to do a segment for Fantasia using the baseball as metaphor concept, but it didnt quite get completed or make the cut for fantasia's initial release.
Oh, really? That is an interesting comparison to make.
Also another thing: I just realized yesterday at night that The Bad Batter may be not only a monster, but a fusion of the three zone bosses by their characteristics.
Considering that the three Add-ons Seemingly disappear at the battle and it is implied that it may have fused ot something upon the fight, and that the three are linked to the guardians,
it makes the Bad Batter's
form make more sense: Huge hands/arms and large amounts of teeth with blank eyes for Dedan, avian-like shape (remember the end of Sugar's fight, where she compares the Batter to a ducky?) and even the pose, that somewhat resembles an open-winged bird. And size-changing (debatable)/agility stat for Enoch.
According to Mortis the Bad Batter is really just how the Judge sees him after what he's done. It's a cool aspect, I think; your opinion of a person and really change the way you view them. A person you hate would seem uglier than if you loved them.
I considered that too. But look at his design, then at the post I made at >>2526
. It certainly raises some very, very interesting implications.A Not So Different (from the very same peeps he defeated) scenario in the Judge's eyes, perhaps? After all, he maybe knew of everyday's suffering, but never could have done a thing… Or maybe he could have done something, but never did for unknown reasons.
Also, there is another thing: What if our dear Batter wasn't even related to Hugo
in the way we think?
And, if the Batter
comes from Hugo's imagination
, and considering that he's forgotten about, what if the whole Batter's mission is a bizarre metaphor for suicide
So uh someone has started to make a fan sequel/spin-off for this game called Home. It takes place (at least based on what I've collected) in the reset world that takes place after the events of OFF
and follows The Judge. Everything in the game is completely NOT canon when it comes to OFF.
Right now it's still in progress and at version .045 with a demo being out for bug testing. You can play up to finishing Zone 2 I think.
Info for it can be found here: http://felix0.tumblr.com/tagged/home-%28off-spinoff%29
and the current demo here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/15a0mmmkdtnnxg5/Home0.4.5.zip
I wasn't exactly sure where to put this so I'm posting it here. So far I'm really liking it. It feels a lot like how Space Funeral Earth Birth is to the original Space Funeral. Something familiar with something new to give us more of what we love.
I've also heard about Reset (another fangame). It's located here:http://reset-the-system.tumblr.com/
Too bad it's still in the development stage. I'm always apprehensive about fan-projects without demos as development hell is always frequent.
And if anybody is curious about Home the creator's page changed. It's now: http://felix-the-judge.tumblr.com/tagged/home-%28off-spinoff%29
and is now up to version 0.7.3 which will take you as far as finishing Zone 3 and a short sneak peak into Zone 4
I have no problems with RPGmaker and unless you have screencaps of the problem it's really hard to help you. Have you done anything different with them?
In other news there's like a dozen more like 5
OFF fangames popping out of the woodwork. At the moment only one of them is complete "Unknown" (I can't remember if Clueless is also finished it might be) and HOME's development is still in progress at the creator's new url: http://thejudge.tumblr.com/tagged/home-%28off-spinoff%29