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 No.4623[Last 50 Posts]

I've been struggling to get back into art lately. Finding the motivation to stay committed to it has been difficult in the past. I even put off making this thread. By having other people be aware of whether I am actually putting in effort or not, I hope that I can stay motivated. Any and all feedback is very welcome.

 No.4627

File: 1520722023900.jpg (1.15 MB, 2592x1936, IMG_0060.JPG)

Figure drawing. Not to toot my own horn, but even i'm impressed with how it turned out. I thought about doing a bulky head set today, but I was intimidated by how, "ungeometric", it seemed.

 No.4631

File: 1520799850552.jpg (1.14 MB, 2592x1936, IMG_0061.JPG)

Day three: Spinning Top
This made me feel quite out of my depth. Balancing how subtle and how overt details should be was difficult. Metal is a pain in the ass for me.

 No.4635

File: 1520892116289.jpg (1.15 MB, 2588x1916, candle.jpg)

Day Four: A candle
Just a white candle. I didn't spend too much time on it because of how tired I am today.

 No.4636

I really like your art.

 No.4637

>>4636
Thanks.

 No.4638

You have a good grasping of shading but you could do more focus on shapes. You've probably noticed it yourself though.

 No.4639

>>4638
I'm not quite that self-aware. How could my shapes be improved?

 No.4641

>>4639
Oh sorry, it was late and I should've expanded on that. The thing I see more easily is some odd proportions, I can't help but notice there's something odd that doesn't quite fit (it may be just me though). Are you drawing purely by eye or do you use some sketch?

 No.4642

>>4641
That depends on how you define sketch. First I sketch the outline of any object and the, "shading areas", by eye, and then I fill the in rest by eye. It's a two step process. Maybe that's not the most effective method? The third picture got the proportions between base and top wrong. The top should be much smaller proportional to the base.

 No.4643

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>>4635
I'm not really an expert on light and shadow construction or anything, so I could be 100% wrong here, but I feel as if the shadow's shape on the paper should pass below the top of the candle. They way you've drawn it, it looks as if the shadow was drawn from a top-down point of view while looking at the candle itself from a straight-ahead kind of horizontal one. Pic related attempts to give a (shitty) visual explanation. Stuff like this happens from moving your head even slightly, giving you different perspectives of an object that's near enough.

Unless whatever light source you were using was in an unconventional spot, leaving longer shadows or something, though I can't really picture it without the perspective being all messed up. Or perhaps you levitated and rotated the candle to the position.

It should also be kept in mind that photographing pictures like this skews and deforms them a little, which might be the reason why to some they look so weird without being actually able to place why.

 No.4645

File: 1520986599001.jpg (1.21 MB, 2592x1936, IMG_0069.JPG)

Day five: Binoculars
The perspective is a bit off in the mid-section because of unconscious page rotating.

 No.4646

As you can see, none of the things I have drawn have a complex texture, they're all smooth. I've got no clue how to draw texture. That's probably what i'm going to try to improve on tomorrow.

 No.4647

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>>4643
Yeah, I wont outline the shadow after finishing the object next time.

 No.4648

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Day six: pencil
I have a fever.

 No.4650

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Day seven:some weird elephant shit laying around
I don't know, i'm still bed-ridden.

 No.4651

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Day 8:Book

 No.4652

You draw as if you're painting. You are putting texture and shadow before the object itsself. For the next one, first sharpen your pencil, then just draw the vital lines for the objects 3d shape, making sure that the lines you can't see line up correctly too. Do this using as few strokes as possible. This will make it so you have to think about line quality (non-scratchy, flowing lines) and '3d-ness', because you won't be able to obscure the drawing behind a heavy mess of shading. Taking this to the extreme, you could try doing this as a wireframe. These exersises should help get rid of the problems you're having with keeping things paralell and producing forms that make sense. As an exercise in line quality and controll, get a pen and draw a long-ish curve on the paper. Then draw an identical curve as close as you can to the other one without intersecting it, and keep doing more.

 No.4653

>>4652

Doesn't look like you're spending enough time on these. You won't learn how to make drawings that require hours to make if you never practice that way. Draw and erase until you get it right. Pro artists can and very very often spend longer than one single day on a drawing.

 No.4654

>>4653
I replied to the wrong post. Too bad I guess.

 No.4655

>>4654
But yeah it looks like you made these in one or two minutes because you're too depressed to do anything else.

 No.4656

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Day 9:Pot from blue pen(closest thing at hand)
>>4652
I never thought about the actual number of lines use to make an outline, but i'll using less next time. I also don't know whether I would call the shading a heavy mess. Every drawing has been from life and I try to make the darker areas like they are in reality. Days 2, 3 and 5 were also done in at least three hours. The other ones were just pumped out for the sake of this thread because I didn't have any energy. I'll try out that exercise.
>>4655
If I can't even draw at least one thing a day, I've got no hope. Something is better than nothing at least in terms of keeping up some momentum for me.

 No.4657

>>4656
I would suggest you go to therapy. You're writing things that suggest to me that therapy would be helpful for you.

I mean, so is almost everyone on this board, but still.

 No.4659

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>>4657
Look, at the beginning of the this thread I said that I was open to and welcoming of all criticism of my art. I'm really glad that anybody has anything to say about it. However, I am not looking for vanity soaked insults masked as concern from some faggot. Please leave this board already.

 No.4660

>>4656
>I also don't know whether I would call the shading a heavy mess. Every drawing has been from life and I try to make the darker areas like they are in reality
I worded that badly. I didn't mean to imply that the shading was bad, it's probably the strongest part of your drawings, I just meant that it obscures the form to a degree that can fool you into thinking it's realistic when it isn't.

>Every drawing has been from life and I try to make the darker areas like they are in reality

The goal of drawing for practice purposes should not always be to emulate reality, but to do things that will improve your skill as an artist. Your shading is very good, so instead of wasting time on that, focus solely on things you struggle with.

I'm not sure if you are doing this already, but if you're not, I would really reccomend that you start drawings with simple geometric shapes. For example, if you had just started the binocular one with two cylinders next to each other and built on that it would have been radically improved.

>>4653
>Draw and erase until you get it right
I disagree. When practicing drawing it is usually far more beneficial to draw the same thing quickly a few times then to keep refining one for a long time. When you've done one, look at things you like and dislike and do it again while exhaggerating good points, changing bad points, and adding in random mutations every now and then. That way you leave the session with more knowledge then before and you can see your progress on the page.

>>4655
>>4657
Honestly, this is the most pathetic attempt at trolling I have seen in a long time. Did you find this site through facebook?

 No.4661

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>>4660
Yeah, I have to say that's a massive weak point. Ever since I was a kid, the most natural way to draw something to me seemed like apeishly putting every little detail I could see onto a piece of paper, and every time I would get disappointed when it didn't look the same as in real life. Tomorrow i'm going to attempt this wooden crane. I already made an outline(I know the legs are too short), but this time the object was too complicated for me to not use basic shapes. I'm not sure how exactly i'll build off of that, probably through layers of increasing complexity.
Thanks for your comments.

 No.4662

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>>4656
You draw like i did back in high school (and to be honest i'm still shit)
I couldn't draw good looking lines most of the time so i drew light lines, so that way i could stack multiple lines on top of them and shape it on what i wanted to do instead of erasing repeatedly.
Add the chicken scratch style to some really abusive shading i did and you had some shit that looked straight out of a PARENTAL ADVISORY album.
I mean that rugged style might be what you're going for but it is better to practice the "base" form of what you're trying to do and then deviate away from that if you are struggling.

 No.4663

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>>4661
I did the first couple of stages for drawing this to illustrate a few points. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not actually very good, but I think you could learn from my process.
First, I did the gesture of the bird, which is a few lines to illustrate the motion and curvature. Your outline looks very rigid, there are a lot of right angles where they shouldn't be. It doesn't flow. This is what drawing the gesture first will help to remedy.
I then constructed the bird geometrically. My proportions are completely off, but you can still tell what it's meant to be. this is because I used simple forms that characterse the bird. Your one still relies on contours and treats it as a single object. It makes sense that you would treat it this way since it IS a single object, but it makes it seem 2 dimensional and will make it harder for you later on when you need to define boundries.
Then I tried detailing, but failed 'cuz I'm shit. I made this bit much harder for myself when I didn't correct te proportions early on, but mostly it's because I haven't practiced it much. I only uploaded it to show you how to go from basic shapes to detail.

There are some tutorials which I think could help you a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHFRfdirLJKk822fwOxR6Zn6
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHGuMuprDarMz_Y9Fbw_d2ws
(I know you're not doing figure drawing, but the techniques here apply everywhere)

 No.4664

Day 10:
I've nearly finished the crane. The only thing left is the shading.

 No.4668

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Day eleven:Broom Crane
This took a lot longer than I expected it to. The legs got kind of fucked up.

 No.4669

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I also quickly remade the elephant.

 No.4671

>>4668
Congratulations on keeping at it for more than a week already. It’s quite inspiring.

The crane looks really good, better than the other works. Seems like you’ve put a lot more effort and attention on it.

I’m not very good at giving feedback but I’ll say two things that helped me a lot before, ignore them if they don't apply to you: worry about having a good pencil to draw with, and try to draw bigger than what you’re comfortable with. Good luck, I’ll keep checking this thread every day.

 No.4672

>>4671
Thanks. I've always struggled with making things not too small. I almost made day three much smaller than it would be possible to put nearly as much detail. I don't really know what constitutes a good pencil. I just use a standard, sharpened number 2. I think gesture and outlining with basic shapes helped out a lot. I never would have thought to do that on my own.

 No.4676

>>4668
Woah, thats a massive improvement. Looks great, though it did take you three times as long as the others. Approximately how long did you spend on it each day?

 No.4677

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Day twelve:Knight piece
The snout was the hardest part by far.
>>4676
I wouldn't say the wood crane took thrice as long. The outline in
>>4661
only took 5-10 minutes, and I ended up completely erasing it. On the first day I spent around 3-4 hours, and on the second is was like 5-7. The binoculars took 4-5 hours for comparison.

 No.4680

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Day thirteen:Jade Pixiu
The mouth was a pain.

 No.4682

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Day 14:Dog figurine
I didn't spend too much time on this.

 No.4684

>>4680
I want to buy a figurine like that now

 No.4685

>>4684
I got it in China's jade factory store around Beijing. There's a superstitious element to it. The large stomach and mouth represents making a lot of money. The massive ass naturally coincides with eating a lot. The thing is though, this type of creature can keep eating without ever need to shit. If you put a figurine of one in your house, it's supposed to make you earn a lot of money without losing any.

 No.4686

Day 15:I'm working on something pretty complicated.

 No.4687

>>4686
That's ok, take your time.

 No.4688

>>4686
Good luck.

 No.4690

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Day 16:Dubious turquoise netsuke
I don't know whether this netsuke I got at a pawn shop is actually made of turquoise and or real or not, but it does make for a good subject. The eyes and head were hell to figure out and the whole basic form took me three tries. I think I should move on to flesh and blood animals.

 No.4691

>>4690
Oh wow, looks super cool

 No.4693

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Day 17:Goat Netsuke 2
The head and eyes were again tricky. So was the fur carving. This time I drew from a photograph, a first in this thread.

 No.4695

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Day 18:Wolf deer netsuke
Trying to get this to look like an actual wolf seems impossible. I tried my best. I almost made the snout much too short, so I managed to avoid that.

 No.4697

>>4695
By, "actual wolf", I meant a wolf instead of another animal.

 No.4699

Day 19:I'm at the midpoint of something.

 No.4701

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Day 20:Monkey with peach
The face on this was absolute hell. I tried my best.

 No.4705

Day 21:Half-way done.

 No.4710

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Day 22:Dove netsuke
Maybe the wing is too small. I think it came out better than the monkey.

 No.4711

>>4710
This looks super cool!

 No.4713

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edit:

 No.4715

>>4701
I actually like the monkey’s face in your drawing more than the figurine’s.

 No.4716

>>4715
Really? That's nice to hear.

 No.4718

>>4713
What was changed?

 No.4719

>>4718
Made the neck shorter.

 No.4721

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Day 23:Cat on Namazu netsuke
The cat's eyes were really tricky. I must have re-drawn them ten times. I took a bit of artistic liberty by moving the catfish's eye in a more natural spot.

 No.4722

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Bonus:
I found my sister's drawing notebook from back when she was still in high school. She never really got into art and almost entirely stuck to very safe, step-by-step tutorial drawings and straight up tracing. I don't like her much. She was always a capital c, the embodiment of the stereotypical millennial.
I think it would be interesting to compare our, "styles". Try to guess what I edited.

 No.4723

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 No.4724

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 No.4725

>>4721
Your cat seems younger, but still looks cute. You’re really getting the hang of this. They now look so much better than at the beginning.

 No.4726

>>4725
Thanks for your encouragement. There's still miles of improvement that can be made, but i'll try to keep chugging along.

 No.4728

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Day 24: Rabbit Netsuke
Happy Easter.

 No.4729

>>4728
I probably should have spent more time on the fur.

 No.4731

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Day 25:Fox priest netsuke
This is my first true humanoid in this thread. I tired my absolute hardest on the face, but the actual tilt is wrong due to rushed planning. Mine doesn't look quite as sinister, but it's more realistic in some ways. Also not sure if mine looks Asian.

 No.4732

That's quite good. Keep going at it.

 No.4736

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Day 26:Snail Netsuke

 No.4737

>>4736
I love him

 No.4738

>>4737
>>4732
Thanks. Since I started this thread, time seems to be going a lot slower for some reason.

 No.4740

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Day 27:Mushroom netsuke

 No.4742

>>4736
the best so far

 No.4743

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Day 28: I'm nearly finished with something. Here's a flower that I drew years ago and recently added a lot to.

 No.4744

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Day 29:Koi fish on leaf netsuke
I grossly underestimated the amount of work this would take. By the end, I just wanted to get it over with.

 No.4745

>>4744
The proportions were also very difficult to figure out, so there's probably a lot of inaccuracies.

 No.4748

Day 30
Half-way

 No.4750

Day 31
I had a lot to do today and this is taking longer than I thought it would. All that's left is the shading.

 No.4751

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Day 32: Shintoist priest netsuke
Took awhile. It's shorter than it should be.

 No.4752

Day 33
I started a drawing, but I want to catch up on some sleep.

 No.4753

>>4752
Sweet dreams, sleep well.

 No.4754

Day 34
It's coming along, but there are some difficulties.

 No.4756

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Day 35:Mouse carrying Daruma

 No.4757

Day 36
I started something. Tomorrow's Saturday, so I will get it done.

 No.4759

Day 37
I underestimated it. Maybe i'll do two things tomorrow.

 No.4761

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Day 38: Snake netsuke
Here it is. I at least started the next one.

 No.4762

Day 39
The form is pretty complicated, but I think I nailed it. The hardest part is over.

 No.4763

Day 40
I worked a bit on it, but I had a busy day. I'm getting some real drawing pencils for the shading.

 No.4764

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Day 41:Mice netsuke
I struggled with controlling the pencil.

 No.4765

Day 42
I started something pretty unusual, but I had a hectic day.

 No.4766

Day 43
The form is much more complex than I thought it would be, but I made good progress today.

 No.4767

Day 44
This drawing is actually hellish. Every single part is a struggle, but I've gotten through the hardest part. I'll definitely have to do more stuff like this.

 No.4770

Day 45
I'm on the final stretch ofthe shading. It's too late to finish it.

 No.4772

>>4770
I can do it man!
This one >>4751 looks pretty cool. I now want the snail figurine in >>4736

 No.4774

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>>4772
*You can do it man!

Sorry about that.

 No.4778

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Day 46:Princess Maker 2 Mercenary ending
It's finished. I don't know what the fuck happened. I thought this would be easier than what I usually do, but no. Every single part except the shading was a massive struggle. I had to trace over my first shape form with lamplight because the amount of erasing made the page too dark. The face and head was probably the hardest part, but the legs definitely weren't easy either. I tried my best since I like this game a lot.

 No.4779

>>4778
pretty good

 No.4780

Day 47
I've started another ending. Hopefully it wont take as long.

 No.4784

Day 48
I have a lot on my plate right now, but I got something done.

 No.4786

Day 49
It's coming along.

 No.4787

Day 50
It's gonna take one more day. I've been swamped lately.

 No.4788

Day 52
I'm sick again and feel lost like shit. Hopefully i'll get back on track during May.

 No.4789

52
sick looking forward to summer
damn

 No.4790

53
It's the end of the year which means crunch time. Need sleep.

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 No.4804

>>4791
>>4792
>>4794
>>4795
>>4796
>>4799
>>4800
>>4801
>>4802
>>4803
Seriously just wait until you've actually made something like just look at all these posts made of absolutely nothing

 No.4805

>>4804
Just trying to keep up the momentum. If I keep posting the day number every day, it'll be a bit easier to get back into it when I get more time. Besides, I always sage.

 No.4806

>>4804
This whole thread is really a psychological experiment in motivation and time management.

 No.4810

hey your drawings are really nice and it is really cool to see a record of your improvement! looking forward to seeing more in the future.
I know it might be hard to pick up a pencil sometimes, but here is a thing I heard somewhere - think of drawing not as making a finished product, but as a record of a series of thoughtful decisions, like an exercise, it’s a pursued skill. always carry a sketchbook with you and draw everything.
Also the end of the semester can be a hectic time. You got this. but no matter what keep drawing!

 No.4835

How's your drawing going? You haven't made an update in a while.

 No.4848

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I'm back. The end of the year was tough and I was burnt out for a while. I'm going to start counting by the number of drawings because days clearly didn't work. Started this one two days ago and abandoned what I was working on a few months before. I only used a 4h and 4b, i'm done with number 2s.

 No.4854

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good job anon
you're doing great and i'm not going to say i am better
but maybe focus more on how you draw
start building shades out of shapes instead of lines
it will make your drawings more lively

 No.4855

>>4854
I tried looking that up online, but I couldn't find anything. Could you be more specific?

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I still don't know what drawing shades with shapes means, but nevertheless, i'm happy with how something this elaborate turned out.



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