Hmm, well you score points for liking School Ningyo. Jokes aside I like some pieces more than others, >>2892
are my faves - the relative lack of polish gives them a raw quality that emphasises the layout and content. In general tho I'd put a bit of practice in the line work, it's a bit too jagged for its own good at times.
Also, would totally read a story featuring >>2892
Thank you for the feedback! I really appreciate it.
As for the jagged lines, that's mainly because I don't have a tablet. But I'm aware of the negative effect it has on my art, and am trying my steadiness. The jagged lines tend to make my drawings look stiff, which is not something I want.
* trying to improve my steadiness.
Your composition and ideas are really nice. You really have to work on anatomy, though.>>2895
This picture in particular is incredibly wonky looking.
That's one of my older drawings, but I understand your point. While my style is mainly cartoony, so the anatomy being a bit off is intentional, I do admit that it can look too wonky at times. I think it's mainly the arms and hands that I need to work on. Thank you for the constructive criticism.
I like this one.
I posted it mainly because I like how condescending her expression turned out.
That idea is really neat.
Fanart of the RPG Happy Birthday http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/5028-happy-birthday/
This one is actually quite old. I think I made it last November.
This comic speaks to me. I knew a girl like this. What is her reason for him to sneeze on her?
Well, most people who read it thought she had some kind of sneeze fetish.In fact, it was added to a sneeze fetish gallery/ The Beatles gallery on deviantart. lol
The truth is that she just wanted to get sick, though. So she could avoid the amount of work she had.
SPOILER ALERT: The tuna sandwich is made out of cat food.
Okay, so, you may have noticed the style in this comic is a bit different. I wanted to try something new. I call it the "I was too lazy for my usual style" style.
Anyways, it's a reference to this reality TV show called "Extreme Cheapskates". They'll seriously make a reality TV show out of anything these days. I remember I once saw one about British nannies. That one was called "Nanny 911", and dear lawd, it was hilarious. They had a "head nanny" and everything. I must admit though, their uniform was pretty cool.
Anyways, in the cheapskate show, there was this woman who used cat food instead of tuna because it was about…30 cents less…? She made this old man (I think he was her father) a tuna sandwich, then turned to the camera and whispered, "I just saved 30 cents."
That inspired me.
Lineart wallpaper: http://i.cubeupload.com/H7Nqra.png
Version without imaginary box guitar: http://i.cubeupload.com/b4OII5.png
Man, this was fun. I should draw teenage boys wearing offensively suggestive yet funny shirts and playing imaginary misshapen guitars more often.
Oh. whoops. This is Mr. Dust, by the way.
Oo, this is kind of a cute concept. Also kind of AUGH BEES.
I like it. :3
Your art is pretty cute.
She's gorgeous. I like your art! Do you have a website or anything?
Some Yume Nikki doodles I did in an animation class (the one I talked about in >>3696
I really miss being there.
It’s funny how comfortable I’ve become with drawing with a pen. You’d think using a tool that unforgiving of mistakes would be nerve wracking, but it honestly feels more natural to me than a pencil at this point. Guessing I have my family’s mantra of “any writing utensil is fine” to thank for that.
But, yeah. The only doodles I used a pencil to shade were Madotsuki, the brunette girl with the weird shirt, the girl with the braids, Mary (from Ib), and a little bit on the tree. Looking back on it I probably should’ve shaded the headband girl’s skirt with a pencil as well… But I don’t want to go through scanning it again so I guess the weird skirt stays. Lucky her.
From your works on this thread it is noticeable your improving. I like your sense of colour and tone you are demonstrating on your coloured works.
Thank you. I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought I was improving. Not sure what I'm improving for, to be honest. Still not really sure what art is to me and why I find myself doing it.
Thank you again for the compliment, though. I appreciate it.
i think its pretty cool you should make it into a anime :*
I "should make it into an anime".
I'll call it: Neon Genesis Evangelion
*should make it into an anime
I was trying to be cool kid and do italics.
But obviously I'm not one. Goddammit uboachan why u fail me this way.
Just a heads up, that name sounds familiar and I think I've seen it before. I would caution you against using it because there's a chance something already exists with that name. (I'm not sure if it's an anime or a manga or a video game though)
i love your arts stuffs. please keep us updated here with more. is there a place you post stuff to?
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Hey, Thanks. I appreciate that. And lol >>3763
don't worry about it. I'm just glad you want to see more of my art.
Though I post way too rarely on deviantart, so you may want to visit my tumblr (under the same name) instead if you don't mind all the mangacaps and stuff, as I post somewhat less rarely on there. (though still not all too frequently cause *cough* y'know I got a, uh, a busy schedule and stuff. Yep. Just absolute madness over here. What with the- the birds and sky and yeah stuff you know how it is.)
Your works have jagged and inconsistent lines. You also don't utilize proper perspective and sometimes even skewed anatomy, which is another inconsistency in your part. However I noticed you focus more on the execution of the image rather than the subjects themselves and its a positive for me. >>2892>>2895>>2899>>2944>>2951>>3040>>3094>>3231>>3707>>3722
Also it seemed like you drew anime-ish stuff before but is now veering to a more realistic approach. At least that's what it looks like for me since I tried that approach before.
My bottom line for you is that some of your works looks really bland and unsatisfying while others are good on my part. You could do with adding more elements(they don't have to be people at all) in your works that would imply a more general theme or something, I mean thats how I would do it.
Tis be my favorite work in your thread.>>3231
That's some pretty solid advice. Thanks, anon.
I like to think my anatomy has improved since the posts you mentioned, but seeing as how you didn't mention my more recent work, it looks like it hasn't. Or at least not enough.
I am leaning away from anime as much as I can, and it's nice to see that being recognized.
I've also been doing more traditional work lately. Not entirely intentional. (I used to draw with my mouse but it broke down so I now have a new mouse that's going to take awhile to get used to. Was thinking of getting a tablet, since drawing with a specific mouse is a skill easily lost and not so reliable.) Would you say the lines in my traditional work are just as jagged? Or does that mainly just apply to my digital work?
Also, you said some of my works were bland. Could you point out which ones? It'd help to see so I could get a better idea what doesn't work so well.
I'd say these are pretty bland/flat. I called them that because they just fall flat.>>3710>>3089>>3076>>3024>>2890
Also the jagged lines only seem to be on your digital works. A tablet is really good if you're into digital art and stuff, be it for professional reasons or hobby. I've had my bamboo fun for years now and it still serves me well today. Hope I was able to help even if its just a bit.
She does resemble her, doesn't she…
Huh. Didn't even realize that while I was making it, but that's kinda neat.
Woooah, hold on there, youngster.
Your comment seems to hold an ironic tone that, binded by the rules, is not allowed outside of /ot/.
May you be careful with your speaking next time, the staff will be thankful.
im still here. i just check in every now and again to see whats up. what projects are you currently working on? do you have plans for this stuff? i recently got a cheap intuos and i been drawing. i kinda been wanting to do something, but im not sure where to start.
Thanks for sticking around.
I've mainly been doing a shit ton of gesture drawings to work on my sense of anatomy, perspective, and movement. Also working on sprites for a game. Other than that, not many projects. My mouse broke so I had to get a new one, and it's kinda… shaped weirdly, if that makes any sense, so my digital drawings haven't really been good enough to upload. Working on getting a tablet.
Man, I wish I had a plan. I honestly don't know what I'm going for. I just want to improve as much as I can I guess. Trying to find an art school that isn't pretentious.
Anyways, I can give you some general advice that applies to all artists. (regardless of what style you're aiming for) But if you want specific advice, and don't mind harsh criticism, try the beginner thread on 4chan's /ic/ board. They can offer some really good advice. Or if you want you could email me some of your drawings and I could give you a few pointers. I mean, I'm not sure if I'm the best person to be giving advice, but yeah. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org if you ever want some critique from someone who has eyes but doesn't fully understand what they're talking about. I mean, if you wanna know how I learned (if not just feel free to skip to General Advice
) I started drawing (or at least started drawing the hopes of it looking gud) when I was around ten. Coincidentally the same time I got into manga. I draw Tohru from Fruit’s Basket in the hopes of sending it to the author for her to display in that section where she used to put all the fanart and letters she was sent. Then just sorta kept on building upon that style with all my drawings having sameface cause I didn’t know how to draw anything else for a few months before gradually moving on and learning from other manga, building upon the style I has acquired. Joined an art site that only like 20 people frequented and drew some digital shit there using my mouse for a while. At this point I was probably around 12 or 11 years old. Then moved on to another site that only around 40 people frequented but only like 12 of them actually participated and did some digital shit there. This was from >>2889
to>>3231 The people there were really nice, but they didn’t really offer any constructive criticism so while I improve in the hopes of impressing them, I also kinda stagnated into focusing more on style and less on the fundamentals. So my anatomy was really bad. Eventually left that site and stopped drawing for a pretty long time since I thought I was going to be a game designer. Still drew some digital stuff but didn’t really share any of it. This was from >>3681
. Was stagnating pretty hard then, but learned some cool techniques. What really inspired me to start drawing again was the workshop I mentioned in >>3696
. That’s when I really became serious about drawing and soon after browsed imageboards for advice and started doing as many studies as I could. Really started drawing my ass off after that. But, yeah. That was… way longer than I planned for it to be. But my point is that you can either take that as a guide on how not to learn or just one of the many ways you can learn. Depends on if you like what you see I guess.General advice
: Don't start from symbol drawing. (like that step by step shit) It's not a good way to learn. Or at least it isn’t for most people. You can start drawing from imagination first (that's what I did anyways, still draw mainly from imagination) but a lot of people recommend drawing from life first. Looking up models online and drawing them as best as you can to try to get an idea of how the human body works is a good way to learn.
A site with some good beginner practices is: http://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
But my main advice? Draw as much as you can.
Drawing gesture studies, hand studies, perspective studies. Just keep putting as many hours as you can into it every day.
(And sorry for the long ass post. I tend to ramble.)
Hoh boy. Sorry for all the errors in my writing as well. I really need to proofread this stuff before I post…
yeah man, ill send some stuff your way, havent really finished anything on the tablet, just been kind of sketchy stuff, but ill show you what i got nonetheless… the tablet i bought was like the smallest and lowest priced i think, around 70 bucks i think.
i am >>3762
by the way. i been watching this thread for about 8 months i think.
i think if i were gonna do school for it, i wouldnt really focus on art so much as the application, like programming, for games, or animation, and 3d modeling kind of stuff, you know?
Alright, cool. I just sent you my thoughts a few minutes ago.
Yeah, I know. Honestly, I'd love if I could do the art for games. Or maybe work on a comic or something. But I'm not at the level where I can actually start making money from my art yet.
This may sound ridiculous, but becoming a middle or high school art teacher has actually been in the back of my head for awhile. And working on an online comic/game on the side or something. But I have no idea how the fuck I'd even get to becoming one, or if I'd even have the personality for it, so… y'know. Working on it.
It’s interesting to read about your development. It seems to share some common points with mine. I wish you good luck on future progress, and don’t worry about feeling lost and without a plan. I think that comes with time and experience.
>becoming a middle or high school art teacher has actually been in the back of my head for awhile
It isn’t ridiculous. A friend of mine wonders about becoming an art teacher too. She decided to take architecture, and with the knowledge and experience she would obtain from the classes try to apply for an art teacher job. If that doesn’t work, she’ll always have architecture.
Hopefully. I mean, I prefer not to leave things to time. But art is just sorta one of those things that takes awhile to figure out.
And hey, thanks. Do you post your artwork anywhere? I'm curious to see what the art of someone who went through the same sort of development looks like.
Indeed it is. Part of why it takes time, at least to me, is because it is something close to self-discovery, and just with study and experimentation do you discover what you want with what you do.
No, I don’t post my work. I’m too shy and self-conscious about what I do to have the courage to. But I did once post anonymously a few things here in uboachan just to prove to myself I could do it. They are a bit old but here they are >>3719 >>3720
I understand. I'm that way with my work as well, actually. I mean, I post occasionally. But like 90% of what I make I just keep to myself. Especially lately, I just feel like most of my drawings aren't creative enough to post. Like they're just not interesting or that great to look at.
I remember watching a video about it once by this guy called Sycra. The more you know about art and the higher your expectations are, the more likely you are to not feel confident about your own art.
I like the drawings you've showed me. Especially the first one; it has a lot of personality. Not just in the expression of the girl, but in the way she's standing and the way the drawing is arranged. This is going to sound pretentious, but some drawings almost look like a song is flowing through them. Like they have a certain rhythm to them. (if that makes any sense) I always try to make my drawings look that way, and I admire your ability to. It's too bad you don't post more, but I understand where you're coming from.
Some drawings inspired by phrases found at http://randomphrase.com/
I think that is actually quite common. A lot of people don’t share most of what they do, they just select what they think is worth sharing. Also, doubting your drawings can be a good sign, as it can mean you’re becoming more conscious, that you believe you can do better. Just don’t let it make you start doubting yourself. I believe that if an author has interest in their own ideas, that is enough to give them worth.
It is quite noticeable you’re improving and your efforts for doing so. Right when I saw your drawing in >>3813
I suspected you had been training gesture drawing, and later in >>3818
you confirmed you were. They felt more dynamic, more confident, than older drawings.
I recognize the name but didn’t knew about that phrase. It makes sense.
Thank you kindly for such comments about my silly drawings. You didn’t need to. I don’t even know what to say. I don’t think I deserve them already as I still have much to work on. Thank you again, it means a lot, especially as what you described is actually something that I’m fighting to make intrinsic in my works. It gives me hope that someday I’ll actually accomplish it, and be worthy of your comment.
Man, you're making me want to hug my computer screen right now. Was not expecting to see something like this today, and I'll admit that I'm a little exhausted at the moment so I have no idea what to say back. Just know your words made me smile. It's great that you are so humble, and I'm glad you strive to improve, but I meant what I said about your art. I'm looking forward to seeing it become even better.
They look messy but cool. What were the phrases that inspired them?
Thanks! Tend to bring a bit of a mess to everything, but I'm a fan of some messiness in art, so it works out this time. haha
Phrases were "poison crusader", "hospital coupons", and "forever hungover." The site I used actually works as pretty nice inspiration. Forces you to get creative when what you're reading doesn't make any sense. It'd be cool to see other artists around here use it; I'm curious to see what they'd come up with.
its some good shit and very expressive do i get to see more ?
Beautifully drawn, as usual in your thread. Keep up the awesome work!
Thank you! This character was actually pretty fun to draw, so hopefully you'll get to see more of her. She's a part of that apocalypse story I was talking about before (though she doesn't show up until the second half).
I'm glad you guys like her.
Her design is awesome, can't wait to see more!
This thread hasn't been updated for a while. Any news?
Cool. But why post it here in Mr. Dust's thread?
General art thread is here → >>2215