the neet/hikikomoris who say they use drugs are too anti-social to even go to a drug dealer and get some stuff
I do when I can afford it/am not looking for work/dealers actually have stuff
just bud, shrooms, and (once in a very long while) acid… though one day I want to try mescaline and maybe dmt
my dealers are generous with weed but they never have psychedelics, and I hate hanging around talking with some dick in a trailer after buying
Then you're not a hikkikomori
Most people wouldn't even know Satou used them unless they'd read the manga, which most people haven't.
Anyway, yes, I have used drugs and gladly do so with each opportunity. There was a time I abused my trust fund to buy acid, shrooms, weed and whatever else came along. Opiates are pretty nice. High-grade salvia is particularly insane.
>inb4 someone comes along foaming at the mouth with their horrendous social stigma surrounding recreational drug use
Doesn't he take drugs in the first episode of the anime?
He starts hallucinating, so it's implied, but besides smoking and alcohol consumption he isn't shown to abuse other substances.
>phlebian tier uboachanners not getting mail order drugs off the deepnet
Why would you guys need to find a drug dealer or go outside?
You can order seeds off the internet and grow weed in an empty PC case if you really wanted to. Mushrooms spores are legal and you can purchase those off the internet and grow them in a plastic container, that's even easier than weed. Mescaline can be made from san pedro cacti which are legal, can purchase them right off amazon. If you want opiates then you can grow poppies and make poppy tea.
Not to mention you can just order any other drug that you would want off silkroad. There's really no need to even go outside anymore if you want drugs.
/n/ turned from a bunch of kiddos eating ramen and talking about social anxiety to druggies. what the fuck.
I whole-heartedly support this change.
buying local is cheaper when you can
That would involve getting drugs mailed to you and using up lots of electricity for the lightbulbs which the authorities are bound to pick up on
>using up lots of electricity for the lightbulbs
That only really applies to weed. Don't need lights for mushrooms and you can just put the cactus on your porch or next to a large window since it's legal to grow those.
Too lazy to GOogle, but growing mushrooms seem spretty hard considering they grow from microscopic pores and who would go through the trouble to collecting spores anyway
You just order the spores from the internet, the spores are legal and they come inside of syringes.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJQrsZFQdE
It's real simple stuff. Just need a couple jars, a plastic container, some brown rice flour, and some vermiculite. Can pick up all of that stuff at walmart in the gardening section and the syringe is like 10 dollars off the internet.
2ci, vodka, salvia, gin, ecstasy… fuck it. Whatever's handy, you know?
Right, because it's totally practical to go to 711 and pick up some salvia and ecstasy.
Confirmed for not hikikomori.
>>2139>does drugs>not hikikomori>"Neet\hikikomori use drugs?"
I don't know where you learned to read, but wherever it was you'd better fuck off back there pronto.
He's not hikki, just a waste of space
why did you post that
fuck, why did you even save it
But those words mean the same things.
They don't. I was trying to use my words but caved in and used wikipedia definitions
Hikikomori (ひきこもり or 引き籠もり Hikikomori?, literally "pulling inward, being confined", i.e., "acute social withdrawal") is a Japanese term to refer to the phenomenon of reclusive adolescents or young adults who withdraw from social life, often seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement. The term hikikomori refers to both the sociological phenomenon in general as well as to people belonging to this societal group.
NEET is a government acronym for people currently "not in education, employment, or training". It was first used in the United Kingdom but its use has spread to other countries, including Japan, China, and South Korea
Keep wearing your "hikikomori" status as a badge of honour, kid~
drugs are awesome, the end
You seem to be confusing me for Kaede. Sorry but I'm neither a hikki nor a NEET. Also pic related>>2148
Then you have the worst sense of humour in existence
>>2149>implying recreational drug users are a "waste of space">implying you're not afraid of the big bad drugs
"Neet\hikikomori use drugs?">Not hikki>Implying NEET>Implying "not in education, employment, or training">Implying you're not a waste of space>Implying you complain about another's reading skills while being unable to read
>"big bad drugs"
>>2151>trolls /n/>thinks he's such a badass
You're such a badass XD
>implying you're /n/>implying I'm a troll/threw the first stone>implying you weren't the one who flaunted his use of "big bad drugs"
No man you're way more badass. Ecstasy so hardcore
>>2153>implying you're not in a drug thread
You're too sick for me brah, I can't compete!
And yet no one else felt the need to talk about it like it makes them cool. I wonder what led you to do that
>>2157>feels so insecure he thinks everyone else is always trying to look cool
No one else is trying to look cool. Contrary to what you might think you're not everyone
Do you still think I tried to "look cool" by naming a few drugs in response to Kaede preferring alcohol instead (which was mere sarcasm, I assure you)? I honestly don't know why you were so offended by that, man. Did you have a problem with the "cool kids" picking on you for being a geek or something?
Not that I'm picking on you. It was a joke. Lighten up, okay?
And anyway, I inb4'd people like you in >>2122
, 'cause I knew some kid would eventually start raging over this thread.
But you can keep replying if you want. I'm having fun :3
It's actually the other way around. You thought I was picking on you for using recreational drugs, which I wasn't, and you still don't seem to have realized that
At the same time you played your "big bad drugs" card, as if any of those were even remotely like hardcore drugs
So really, take a look in the mirror before throwing those accusations. You seem to be a much better fit than I
>implying you weren't
Care to tell me what's so big and bad about them then? Because I don't think you threw it out there just to look stupid
y can't we be friends
wasn't gonna butt in but that takes the cake. you really shouldn't talk about looking stupid after posting these http://uboachan.net/purarara/res/92.html
@other anons please stop answering the slobbering cunt. I know you mean well but /n/ has enough shitposting without this argument.
B-but onii-sama, aren't I prettyful~?
I'd do drugs, then hit it Soutai
Can't say I know what was there, but it looks like it was pathetic enough for him to delete it after that post
Your point is well-taken though. I'm out of this thread. And I apologize for the shitposts, even though honestly it just feels like pissing in an ocean of piss
I didn't want you ogling me, that's just creepy :/
Everyone I like already has the pictures though, so it's okay~
Takers of illicit drugs are fucking stupid and its a fruitless ordeal to argue with them. I am glad theres hardly any drug culture here in Australia as compared to the US. Our drinking culture is fucking bad enough.
are you kidding? there are shitloads of australian stoners. wikipedia's article on cannabis in australia: "Cannabis is the most widely used illicit drug in Australia, with a reported one-third of all Australians aged 14 or older (33.5%, about 5.8 million) having tried cannabis and 1.6 million using it in the past year. It is estimated that 750,000 Australians use cannabis every week, and approximately 300,000 smoke it on a daily basis. Australia has one of the highest cannabis prevalence rates in the world […]"
also every nation drinks, unless they're muslim. personally I don't drink more than a couple times per year but most of the people I know do drink. only a few smoke weed
I'll be the first to admit that I drink far too much, but nothing hard. I just really like cider and a few different craft beers. Also, I don't ever drink to get drunk, just buzzed.
I like the feeling.
you are obsequious
also I intake so-called illicit substances whenever I please
Nothing wrong with that, really. Supposedly a little alcohol is even good for you. That's only really valid if you burn the empty calories off, though.
yep thats a great idea taking illicit substances, why dont you take more?
you speak as though you don't think for yourself
many illicit substances are perfectly safe to use in moderation
I intake marijuana regularly. It's 100% safe. It's not like I'm going to die from smoking too much weed. The only reason I am able to procure said ganja is through a friend I've known since I was a wee toddler.
<obligatory comment about a guy who almost died from taking three marijuanas>
LSD, Artemisia, alcohol and Marlboros.
I'm Neet, not so much Hiki, but I smoke ganja. (: I grew up with my parents dealing it, so its never really been a big deal.
I've also done Shrooms with my dad and his new girlfriend. (And our room mate. Bad trip, probably never again!) And k2, which is basically just a synthetic ganja.
I plan to try LSD and EX in the next few months, but thats about where my train stops. There's a lot of drugs that I'll never do for my own health and safety.
There's a difference between drug USE and drug ABUSE. (:
>>2320>There's a difference between drug USE and drug ABUSE
Yeah — all you gotta do is go from A to B!
I used to smoke weed, but I have to control my NEETness in order to not have anxiety attacks with it.
I eat pills that I need to because of my brain diseases, but if the normal quantity of them is exceeded, I become happy and start doing things. It helps me much. Their primary target is to widen veins in my brain 'cause they're too thin and no oxygen flows through my head.
I don't have a source for acid or shrooms anymore and that makes me sad. I should grow shrooms… can't make my own acid though. on the other hand, I don't want to drop with anyone I know locally :/>>2943
don't give yourself a stroke brah
I smoke cigarettes and am considering starting drinking.
Much like Kaede here, I drink way too fucking much. Beers, whiskey, the occasional sake. Don't do drugs though, never found myself using them.
Because drinking yourself stupid is really going to help you change anything
Peasant please, some of us can have a drink without losing control of our faculties.
Besides, I'm wishing things were different because I don't see any ways to do anymore to change things than I already am. Having a drink in this context is just a coping mechanism - much like wasting one's time posting on Uboachan at the age of 27 is.
The way you describe it almost makes it sound like you're going to become an alcoholic. Yeah, maybe drinking makes you feel better, but the body can build up a tolerance to alcohol fairly easily. And once that happens, you'll find yourself drinking more and more just to get to that same level.
I'm not saying you are an alcoholic, nor am I saying that you WILL become one. But the "drink to improve mood" mentality is a dangerous one, and it's not too far removed from outright alcoholism. I've only known maybe 3 people who were alcoholics, but trust me: it is definitely a road that you DO NOT want to go down.
Ah, yeah, reading it again I can see it must've sounded that way.
I don't know if I'm on the road to alcoholism or not. I don't drink compulsively, and not on a daily basis. Probably weekly. And I never feel like my mood needs improving through alcohol, it's more like "fuck, if I'm going to feel miserable I might as well have a drink", knowing full well it's not going to up my mood at all. Is that addiction or volition? Kind of hard to assess from a first-person perspective.
With me, its because booze tastes really good with fatigue. I don't sleep much.
I've done plenty of prescriptions drugs recreationally before. So far, the opiates give the best high, but are also the most addictive. After a two week Percocet binge, I'm pretty antsy about getting more, even though I can't. I also have a reasonable source of income, so I can drink whenever I want, i.e. weekly.
Mail order drugs. Shrooms and other psychedelics, RCs and other assorted stuff.
The psychedelics I don't regret at all, great experiences and hard to abuse.
Silk Road has ratings, reviews, quality control and a pirate lord arbitrator. It's the Amazon of drugs, really. It has advantages over street dealers, even for those with the luxury of choosing between the two.
The only real difficulty with growing shrooms, AFAIK, is sterility, but you can get pre-sterilised grow bags that have a medium and just need spore syringes.
Re: weed growing detection: a few plants shouldn't show up. Law enforcement only have the money to take down big operations, and even then, they hardly care about weed compared to other drugs. You hear of college kids growing a single plant in their closet with a lamp leaning against the wall.>>2134
Yeah, IIRC, Australia (and New Zealand) head the leaderboards for weed consumption.>>2410
I'm convinced the only people who think it's two steps to full-on addiction are people with no experience of alcoholism or illegal drug use. There's the different between physical/psychological addiction, the individual's behaviour, the chemical, etc. It's a steep slope, but it's not an instant jump from experimentation to addiction.
How the hell did you end up living with another hiki if you're both hiki?
Cigarettes and alcohol.
I've tried weed before, didn't appeal to me enough to make me actively want it.
Pshh I don't have the money for that, and it'd make it even harder to get a job as every place now does drug tests. I wanna know who's paying for that; makes fuckall sense for companies to be wasting their moners trying to make sure their employees are on the straight & narrow when not at work…
My friends and I all started smoking pot at the same time. I smoked the most. They all began to bitch at and shun me, so I went through the grinder trying to cut back from "constant" use to not buying it at all, and we stopped being friends. I went without friends or pot for ~1 year, and then my friends came back looking for me, as it were, and first thing they did was offer me pot and (my choice notwithstanding) "got me smoking again."
It has kind of ruined my enjoyment of both weed and my friends, and I know for a fact that if they contact me to hang out, they will have weed, because if they didn't have any, they wouldn't contact me, as they can't seem to stomache doing things together without being baked.
With no money of my own, the only way I can get stoned is by hanging with them, which skews my feelings for them as people, and makes me incredibly mad that they could just do that to me, back and forth, smoke weed, dont smoke weed, heres a joint, dont talk about weed, LETS GET BAKED, you smoke too much.
I made the year 2012 my year to wean myself off of it gradually, both in need and desire, and 2013 seems like it's going to see me both drug-free and friend-free.
NOTE: Drug is used in this post to refer to any chemical compound ingested to induce alterations to a human's state of mind.
Weed isn't crack, but it can crack shit up just the same.
I still like it, but none of this is the same as it used to be.
I had a problem a bit like that before life landed me where I am now. The difference was that I was more often than not drunk or high on something when I was around people. Of course, at those times things seemed great, but there were two downsides. I became known as the "junkie", even though I never did hard drugs, and that puts off girls. Then, when sober, I realised how generally unpleasant people are, and that most of the people I spent time with weren't my friends, just people who were "there".
and people wonder why its made illegal
Not to sound like your local stoner libertarian, but illicit drugs are illegal because they have no recognised medicinal value (read: pharmaceutical companies can't make money off them). More people die from prescription meds annually than all illegal drugs combined.
I once climbed into an open grave, dragged the wooden boards covering the opening back into place, and smoked salvia 6ft under the earth, in the darkness.
I've never experienced a silence so impenetrable like when inside that grave.
I'm claustrophobic. that would be the worst experience of my entire life
how was it for you?
I started to sing everything I was doing "♪～♪～I'm cliiimbing out of a graaaaaaave, tooo-daaayyyy
I started to sing to random objects around me, but salvia being salvia, the effects wore off in 10 minutes or so, and there I found myself, muddy and spaced, to make my way home.
A woman was buried there within the next couple of days.
You should try to put salvia under your tongue and lie down in a dark room. It's like having a really trippy lucid dream. If you stay active in a well lit room you wouldn't notice that much aside from the body high and the occasional auditory hallucination (which is kind of scary).
Lol at post ending in 420, derp herp herp, etc.
That sounds both novel and terrifying. I've only smoked salvia roughly half a dozen times, and that was years ago. Because salvia is the kind of hallucinogen with the potential to be a really out-of-body experience, I'd never risk doing it a) at night, b) alone and c) in a fucking graveyard. That said, I did like that last line about the silence, though - reminds me of being on ketamine, alone and late at night/early in the morning.>>3495
Of course I don't even know… that's why I asked. To be a hiki and live with a hiki you met when he/she was already a hiki, one of you must have left his/her home. Not that it's terribly important, but it was just illogical, because I can't help myself.
I don't do drugs but today I tried out a new higher dose of my ADHD meds. RItaline, Methylphenidate. from 16 MG to 25. Or maybe it was 7 to 18? I can't remember. It was some kind of a 9 MG difference!
I took it at noon and felt fine, more attentive and less hyper than I am un-medicated, but for some reason slightly less attentive and more hyper than I am on my usual dose. Ever since 6Pm (~3 hours ago) I've started feeling weird, the volume of everything is going up and down, my eyes look funny and my vision is weird, and I feel like I'm floating. going back and forth from giddy to slightly nauseated. Little shaky. Ahaha…is this "high"? I hear people try to get this ritalin stuff to get high, you get high from it if you don't have ADHD and you take enough. This dose must be too high, I took to much, I'm moving a little faster than time right now, ya know? I can't decide if this is fun or not. I'm just sitting but I keep feeling like I'm dropping or falling. A little like I'm flying. then I feel like I'm gonna puke for a second but then back to flight. feels like someone keeps coming into the room but nobody's there.
Don't take ritalin guys oh man this is not fun make it stop
Yeah, my friend used to take ritalin. It was fucked up. I hated seeing him like that.
He's not taking them anymore though, thankfully.
I don't know a lot of people, but I do have this one friend from highschool. He got me into weed back than. I can go to his house and buy from him.
I can actually socialize to some extent if I'm high. It also cures my joint pains from the shitty bed I sleep on. However, I mainly use it to put my mind in a different state so I can explore different parts of it, and learn more about why I am the way I am.
Adult life is just kind of like that. Most people do something or other to cope. It turns out there isn't much reason to be proud to be a teetotaler unless you're a recovered addict.
Admittedly, I too use drugs as some kind of escape. I can agree with this post.
Well, it's either that or staying depressed and suicidal 24/7.
I'm a different person from who you're talking to.
Pretty much this, although at first I thought it was pointless to say anything. >>3727
This anon just wants to fight on the internet.
>YOU USE DRUGS SO YOUR BAD AND I'M BETTER.
Do me a favor and blow your brains out with the nearest firearm available. If said firearm is not available please feel free to ingest ungodly amounts of bleach.
but im too poor to afford bleach
yes I'm better than you
Improvise. I heard that rat poison works too.
This person is just looking for attention and/or is a complete social wreck.
You forgot your tripcode
Don't have one here. I don't see the point in anyone imitating me. I guess I'll get one.
Congratulations asshole you've created a tripfag, I hope you die in pee
I only tripfag on small boards, it's more viable to be distinct here (and similarly "museum"-like boards) if you want to make a point sometimes.
I use Lexapro… doctor's orders. Not sure how that counts.
>>2114>NEET>Drugs I raf
I never used drugs im not against people who do weed, since 80% of the youth does it anyway same for drinking I only used to drink a bit but thats 5 years ago now all the other drugs crap no thnx
drug users who say >use drugs>to expand your mind>see visual things
Or just read a fucking book and think for your self and watch anime titties visual enough
Good for you but don't be all knowing about things you know nothing about.
I am drunk and very emotional atm. Hate it because I drank to forget about my problems for a moment. It is getting better though. The last few hours sucked.
Lying around for 2 hours while loosing myself in negativity and bad dreams.
And yet, we all rise again. You'll be okay. Promise.
Thanks for the kind words.
It is the cycle of alcohol consumption. Drink->euphoria->everything is okay->problems seem to come back->drink more->euphoria->more problems again->drink even more->…
Like the tides, the mood always oscillates, a cycle of highs and lows.
Your drinking merely increases the frequency and amplitude.
i don't except caffeine, non-daily.
There is not a huge difference between LSD and Psilocybin. DMT is a whole different story. LSD just lasts a lot longer and isn't as dream like.
I had the feeling that something guides me through a trip on mushrooms. It has a very spiritual character to it.
Then again taking psychedelics is like putting a mixer in your brain. You never know what you get and you can alter your perception permanently or at least for a few weeks/months.
Thats generally a psychedelic experience in a nutshell. Im glad it took you in that direction, or vice versa. Some people just take them to get "fucked up" and that to me is a waste of a spiritual journey.
I have some experience with psychedelics. Ive done Mushrooms, DMT, and LSD. Every time I did Mushrooms or DMT I would come out of it feeling like I just had the craziest adventure, and that sort of thing leaves you really motivated. The last time i did mushrooms, I started dressing up real nice, working hard at organizing my life, and being happy. I have no reason in the world not to take mushrooms but somehow it scares me. Part of me wants to die and yet that part of me that wants to die, and needs to die so I can help myself, somehow wont go without a fight.
DMT, weed, and shrooms are the only drugs you should be doing.
Hell DMT is so natural you release a shit ton of it during sleep. Learn to breath and clean out your system, you'll produce more DMT and connect with your innerself.
I have done a lot of fucking drugs. Mostly dissociatives and psychedellics.
I haven't tried LSD yet, but I once had an mind-shattering experience with dissociatives (namely MXP). It was the realization of the atomic structure everything is bound to. I got completely aware, that I don't differ from a stone, a dog or a chair on the lowest level of matter.
As the trip went on I became a universe, spinning eternally in the left direction (hitting my knee badly against the kitchen table). When I had a conscious moment I was like "omg, what do I do now? I will never see my parents, the world or myself in the same light again!". Also I had the impression, that I somehow could influence this world by will, so I tried to establish the world I knew, but that was pretty hard, as I couldn't remember properly how it was before.
This was like I saw the matrix with my very own eyes.
At some point I became conscious again and was on my bed in my room. I didn't know how I got there, but at that point the journey ended and I could sleep after a couple of hours comedown.
How much I took? Two times a pinch of crystals. The second after 3h or so.
A week later I got heavy flashbacks thanks to drinking beer(!) at a friends place.
People use drugs here just because its fashion and cool saying they do
Except that's not the reason at all? How the fuck do you even get that. Most normies hate drugs
>>12625>Most normies hate em
That's the reason anon, its edgy and darky and all the cool teens use it even if they are just shit.
I'm not pathetic enough thanks I'll pass
Please leave, and never come back.
It has nothing to do with being cool unless you are 16 and want to impress your schoolmates.
It has something to do with this.http://uboachan.net/n/res/10108.html#11456
Sorry did you feel touched by my words anon?>I dont like your opinion leave
I guess /n/ is like some kind of high school but you have a point, each person's willpower is different.
>>12656>like some kind of highschool
Except its not? What are you even talking about dood
I dunno, im high, becas its cool
And that's ok.
It is very healthy not to take drugs and you can live a long fulfilled life without any illegal substances. I am happy about every person who never touches this first joint.
But those posts might sound highly arrogant in some ears and won't lead to anything productive. You don't need to tell drug users, with or without an addiction, that what they do is bad, >pathetic >>12632
or trivialize by turning it into a laughing matter when you say it is just to be cool.
Trust me we heard those words enough. From the media, worried friends and parents and still decided to take drugs. The only thing happening is making some people posting in this thread angry. It doesn't help the ones who need help. It doesn't really solve anything. In the end it will end up being provocation even if it wasn't intended that way.
Doesn't this suck?
People won't take your posts seriously and everyone feels a bit shittier than before. Besides, most people on this board feel down enough already.
Damn this is pathetic. You can't reason out with drug users, leave them alone. Personally I don't like people who smoke joints and feel mighty proud about it. I hope they get cancer.
Every person living in the western world with a certain live standard supports the suffering of the 3rd world.
If you eat meat you let animals suffer.
If you use cellphones containing Coltan you let people suffer.
Almost every asymmetric being destroys to fulfill its needs.
Even though this justifies nothing. Don't go all moral on this topic we all have blood for something on our hands.
Maybe all the drugs I take are fair trade.
>>12662>Humanity is not perfect so I'm allowed to be proud of buying drugs supporting el narco>Don't go all moral
While just saying drugs support death
I'm not proud to be a drug user.
The thing is you can play the moral/ethic card for so many things but I still like to eat meat, take drugs and talk on my phone.
What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over.
I won't pretend to care enough to stop.
I am not even sure who suffers here in central europe when I take ecstasy. Someone, somewhere. I don't care.
At least you are sincere saying you just dont care, you're right, and I'm not even pointing at you as individual, but the people who make drug culture look cool or edgy, it's almost the same as the atheist pop trend.
There are people who consume drugs and dont go over there spreading pro-acid propaganda, as there are atheists who respect people's beliefs.
It is about who is a retard, and who is not.
You forgot 4-using a tripcode for circlejerk threads
I thought the very same thing five minutes after posting that image.
Here's edited version.
I actually agree with you. You can't live as a first-worlder without putting your comfort before that of someone else, sure, but the least you should do as a conscious person should be to try and moderate that. Personally I don't really feel too much empathy for cows and chickens anyway but people I do. I've never owned a cellphone or smartphone so I can't say I feel too implicated by the facts of how and where coltan is mined. I do feel guilty living as I do, as basically a leech that consumes a lot of goods that are produced exploitatively, but while it's not very possible to totally cut that without living in the woods (and even then in this day and age you're going o get taxed so even that isn't a foolproof solution), that doesn't justify doing cartel drugs just because why not.
Ironically however, the best way to minimize the effects of that is to decriminalize drugs, so yeah, you're best off not making it a moral issue beyond the support it gives for death merchants. Pretty sure I've heard quite a bit of news about the cartels hurting a lot just as a result of a few states doing it. Good stuff.